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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / August 2003Hills Science Diet Dental
Hi all Sorry to butt in, hope you might be able to help. My vet said that my ca, Jessie,t is now showing signs of slight gingivitis(she's 13 years) and is now going to have her teeth cleaned annually. She has been on a wet diet for all these years, and latterly a senior wet diet - well mixed senior and adult as she won't eat senior everyday!!! The vet said she must have dry crunchy food and we should get a mix of dental and senior. When we went along to the pet shop we were told 'forget the senior diet it is a waste of time'. The pet shop owner claimed to have been a feline nutritionist for years and that vets go to him for advice. Anyone able to give advice, have you used the dental, have you been advised against? What do you think? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Jules There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats. > When we went along to the pet shop we were told 'forget the senior > diet it is a waste of time'. The pet shop owner claimed to have been a feline > nutritionist for years and that vets go to him for advice. Out of curiosity, did you ask why you were told this? Or what you should really want in a food, or... how much profit he makes on SD vs the super-premium brands? :) Jon >> When we went along to the pet shop we were told 'forget the senior >> diet it is a waste of time'. The pet shop owner claimed to have been a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >really want in a food, or... how much profit he makes on SD vs the >super-premium brands? :) No we didn't, when he commented that vets only say this to make a profit and he doesn't even sell the stuff, we suggested he might be doing exactly the same thing! I just want to give cat food which is nutritious (not too high in salt as she has a slight asymptomatic heart murmur) and which doesn't do anything too drastic to her teeth!!! Is this too much to ask? Maybe I will ask about his profits next time I go in there... >Jon Jules There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats. >I just want to give cat food which is nutritious (not too high in salt as she > >has a slight asymptomatic heart murmur) and which doesn't do anything too >drastic to her teeth!!! Is this too much to ask? Go w/ what your vet recommends. Who do you trust more? The person who has the education behind them, the person you took your beloved pet to in the first place? OR some stranger (and I'm being kind here) in a pet store that claims to know more than vets (who deal w/ real life problems on a daily basis). Since your cat needs something that isn't high in salt you could go w/ a diet like Hill's t/d. It has a senior nutrient profile and will attack the periodontal problems as well. (there are differences in senior diets, regardless of what the pet store employee told you--he certainly isn't a feline nutritionist if he doesn't know that basic fact) > >I just want to give cat food which is nutritious (not too high in salt as she > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > regardless of what the pet store employee told you--he certainly isn't a feline > nutritionist if he doesn't know that basic fact) What reason would a vet have to know more about feline nutrition? >What reason would a vet have to know more about feline nutrition? WTF? Why don't you ask yourself that question? Once I noticed a canned diet for cats had carrots in it. Just out of curiosity, I decided to write to the manufacturer to ask why they added carrots. The vet from the company (specialized in small animal nutrition) wrote back and said that carrots were a source of vitamin A. The problem is that nobody told that vet that cats are unable to convert beta-carotene into vitamin A (carrots have beta-carotene, not vitamin A). Now if you get that kind of thing from someone who *should* know about feline nutrition, imagine what you'd get from the regular vet. <My vet said that my ca, Jessie,t is now showing signs of slight gingivitis(she's 13 years) and is now going to have her teeth cleaned annually. Do you have any idea how many homeless people you can feed for the price your spending on that furry, broken-down abomination? Put the worthless f.cker to sleep....DO IT NOW! > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Jules > There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats. > <My vet said that my ca, Jessie,t is now showing signs of slight > gingivitis(she's 13 years) and is now going to have her teeth cleaned [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > price your spending on that furry, broken-down abomination? Put the > worthless f.cker to sleep....DO IT NOW! Dude. How many homeless people CAN eat on $1/day? Jon ><My vet said that my ca, Jessie,t is now showing signs of slight >gingivitis(she's 13 years) and is now going to have her teeth cleaned >annually. > >Do you have any idea how many homeless people you can feed for the >price your spending on that furry, broken-down abomination? Yeah, homeless people that are drug addicts and alcoholics. <snipped profanity> from the troll >From: "Lou Gehrig fan" nocreditxx-no-spam@foo.com >Anyone able to give advice, have you >used the dental, have you been advised >against? What do you think? A dental diet will do nothing to help your cat's gingivitis, and a wet diet is much healthier. I have a cat with severe gingivitis and I took her to a specialist at the University of Minnesota Veterinary hospital. He never once mentioned using a dental diet. My cat Zuzu had the option of my cleaning her teeth every day with a special product called Maxi-Guard OraZN, and if that didn't work she would have to have a full mouth extraction. I've been applying the solution every day and that has improved her condition enough that she does not need the full mouth extraction at this time. Caring for the teeth with regular brushing, etc., is the right way to deal with gingivitis. Expecting a food to do the job is ridiculous and it irks me that companies promote these products and lead consumers to believe that that is enough and that taking an active role in ensuring the cat's dental health is unnecessary. It takes just a minute to brush a cat's teeth once a day and is much more effective. Megan  Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray >A dental diet will do nothing to help your cat's gingivitis, and a wet >diet is much healthier. With all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. For example, Hill's t/d is effacious for treating gingivitis and periodonal disease. It's been clinically proven. >Expecting a food to do the job is ridiculous and >it irks me that companies promote these products and lead consumers to >believe that that is enough and that taking an active role in ensuring >the cat's dental health is unnecessary. That is actually one of the ways a client can take an active role in their cat's teeth--feeding a diet like t/d. It's certainly not "ridiculous". I would call it responsible. > My vet said that my ca, Jessie,t is now showing signs of slight > gingivitis(she's 13 years) and is now going to have her teeth cleaned [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Anyone able to give advice, have you used the dental, have you been advised > against? What do you think? Dear Julie, Science Diet Oral Care Diet for Cats is not a substitute for professional care, but can be very helpful in prolonging the time between visits, especially if you are unable to brush Jessie's teeth daily (and provided she doesn't swallow the kibble whole). Feel free to contact me at petdentist<at>yahoo.com should you have any additional questions. Sincerely, Milinda Lommer, DVM Diplomate, American Veterinary Dental College Aggie Animal Dental Service San Francisco, CA We usually mix in some Friskies Dental Diet food with the normal stuff we feed. It has bigger pieces so they have to chew it up more and crunch it which causes it to run against their teeth and give them a pseudu cleaning as they eat. Seemed to have an affect at least.... >Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Jules >There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats. |
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