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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2004Synulos, cat in distress.
I have just given my cat synulox drops as perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml straight from the bottle, it has caused him to salivate quite badly and has caused him some distress, does this mean he has had an allergic reaction? >I have just given my cat synulox drops as perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml >straight from the bottle, it has caused him to salivate quite badly and has >caused him some distress, does this mean he has had an allergic reaction? > >Call the Vet : >I have just given my cat synulox drops as perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml : >straight from the bottle, it has caused him to salivate quite badly and has : >caused him some distress, does this mean he has had an allergic reaction? : > : >Call the Vet I did, waste of time, he is not going to own up to incompetence now is he? Or better still give me a refund to go elsewhere. Vets are bloody expensive as are antibotics, I cannot afford their screw ups :( >: >I have just given my cat synulox drops as perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml >: >straight from the bottle, it has caused him to salivate quite badly and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Vets are bloody expensive as are antibotics, I cannot afford their screw ups >:( Sorry about that. I hope by now your cat is feeling better. MLB "m. L. Briggs" <mlbriggs@nospam.net> wrote in message : Sorry about that. I hope by now your cat is feeling better. MLB I am happy to report he is now feeling much better, back on the prawns :) I cant see myself putting him through an ordeal like that twice a day for the next 3 weeks, the cure is worse than the infection, (nail root infection) thats what the vet said. Is it expecting too much for vets to stock pet friendly products, anyway its back to the drawing board for me, time to find out what the alternatives are to "Synulox Palatable Drops" which are anything but palatable according to my cat. In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Dermuid" <gavin@ntlworld.com> artfully composed this message within <news:YaoEc.84$wH5.20@newsfe3-win.server.ntli.net> on 29 Jun 2004: > Is it expecting too much for vets to stock pet friendly > products, anyway its back to the drawing board for me, time to > find out what the alternatives are to "Synulox Palatable Drops" > which are anything but palatable according to my cat. Ask your vet if this is something that can be compounded into something tastier to kitty. Compounding pharmacies can concoct tuna, liver, chicken, etc flavored medications. Or maybe a pill? I finding pilling a cat easier than giving liquid meds. My cat once had a med that was compounded into a chicken-flavored liquid (actigal) which I found funny since it was to be given through a feeding tube and he wasn't tasting it anyway. It stunk to me, but cats like stinky stuff.  SignatureCheryl >Ask your vet if this is something that can be compounded into >something tastier to kitty. Compounding pharmacies can concoct tuna, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >found funny since it was to be given through a feeding tube and he >wasn't tasting it anyway. It stunk to me, but cats like stinky stuff. I tried that with cat5 and an antibiotic - he still thought it was horrible and getting it in him was no easier. I don't think he was fooled 1 bit. I tried adding it to his soft food and no way he was going to eat that either. Karryl http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/soft63389/index.htm circa Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:56:58 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, soft (soft63389@netscape.net) said, > >Ask your vet if this is something that can be compounded into > >something tastier to kitty. Compounding pharmacies can concoct tuna, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > fooled 1 bit. I tried adding it to his soft food and no way he was > going to eat that either. I have to admit, when Alex was alive and going through all of his trials and tribulations, I learned quickly that liquid meds just wouldn't work for him. He was very easy to pill, but liquid caused immediate foaming and tearing around the house like Cujo- regardless of whether it was nasty-tasting or not. He just hated having liquid put into his mouth. He'd even foam if he was fed *food* via syringe. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > >Ask your vet if this is something that can be compounded into > >something tastier to kitty. Compounding pharmacies can concoct tuna, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Karryl > http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/soft63389/index.htm Arrrr, let that be a lesson to ye all, tis no use mixing concoctions, drops be a devilish potion, tablets be best. circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:54:00 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > Is it expecting too much for vets to stock pet friendly products, It's the drug companies at which you should be expending your ire. Drugs for animals are afterthoughts. The only reason that half of the veterinary medications that exist *do* exist is because they were tested via animal research and turned out to offer something beneficial to animals. However, there isn't money in veterinary drug development- at least not like there is in people meds. > anyway its > back to the drawing board for me, time to find out what the alternatives are > to "Synulox Palatable Drops" which are anything but palatable according to > my cat. Do you have a compounding pharmacist/chemist in your area? They may be able to add flavoring to the medication. Alternately, perhaps you could try mixing it with a little tuna juice, and when you give it, give it at the back of the mouth so as to avoid the tongue as much as possible. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde : circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:54:00 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, : Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : beneficial to animals. However, there isn't money in veterinary drug : development- at least not like there is in people meds. It might surprise you to know that some of the antibotics we give to animals are also taken by humans. : > anyway its : > back to the drawing board for me, time to find out what the alternatives are [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : give it at the back of the mouth so as to avoid the tongue as much as : possible. This sounds like a good idea, although I have not heard of a compounding pharmacist before I will certainly look it up, the tuna juice good as well, now why cant I get advice like this from a vet. circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:17:16 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > : circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:54:00 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > : Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > It might surprise you to know that some of the antibotics we give to animals > are also taken by humans. That's exactly my point. The reason that we *have* them for animals is *because* they exist for humans. They were not *developed* for use in animals. Animals are virtually never the audience for which drugs are developed. It is also because of this that many medications do not come in "pet-sized" doses- we are given people versions chopped up to animal-sized doses. So, no, it doesn't surprise me in the least that *many* human drugs are used for animals. In fact, I've probably shoved one or another of a lot of 'em into one or another of my cats over the years. ;-) > : > anyway its > : > back to the drawing board for me, time to find out what the alternatives [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > pharmacist before I will certainly look it up, the tuna juice good as well, > now why cant I get advice like this from a vet. 'Cause vets are usually way better at getting meds into cats than we are. E.g., "you! vet tech! Give this kitty her medication, please." Five minutes later, tech has given cat medication, bandaged scratches and cleaned up drool that the cat lathered over all surfaces in the vicinity. Tech brings cat to vet and vet thinks, "see? Medicating cats is *easy*!" ;-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde : circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:17:16 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, : > It might surprise you to know that some of the antibotics we give to animals : > are also taken by humans. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : shoved one or another of a lot of 'em into one or another of my cats : over the years. ;-) Admittedly there cannot be that much difference in a cat with infection and human, bacteria is the same so i suppose when you think about it the treatment must be the same. I was always told never give an animal human products but I suppose you can if you know what to give it ;) : 'Cause vets are usually way better at getting meds into cats than we : are. E.g., "you! vet tech! Give this kitty her medication, please." : Five minutes later, tech has given cat medication, bandaged scratches : and cleaned up drool that the cat lathered over all surfaces in the : vicinity. Tech brings cat to vet and vet thinks, "see? Medicating : cats is *easy*!" Some of them are, I have see the various vets programs on TV and believe me I do not know how Truda Mostrum, excuse spelling, managed to qualify as a vet, hey, once you get your own TV series you can do anything. -- I can believe anything, provided that it is quite incredible. Oscar Wilde In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Dermuid" <gavin@ntlworld.com> artfully composed this message within <news:cspEc.107$wH5.71@newsfe3-win.server.ntli.net> on 29 Jun 2004: > Some of them are, I have see the various vets programs on TV and > believe me I do not know how Truda Mostrum, excuse spelling, > managed to qualify as a vet, hey, once you get your own TV > series you can do anything. Who is this? Is it an AP show? SignatureCheryl : In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Dermuid" : <gavin@ntlworld.com> artfully composed this message within [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : : Who is this? Is it an AP show? I am not sure Cheryl, this is who she is, shot to fame for being hopeless as a student vet. http://www.lady.co.uk/articles/0308artA.cfm?framed=y circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:50:18 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > : > Some of them are, I have see the various vets programs on TV and > : > believe me I do not know how Truda Mostrum, excuse spelling, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.lady.co.uk/articles/0308artA.cfm?framed=y Interesting. So she's still lousy? Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde : circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:50:18 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, : Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : > : Interesting. So she's still lousy? Yes, very poor indeed, I watched all the TV series form the start and I dont know how she managed to qualify, here's a tip for wanna be vets, when you make a total hash of treating an animal smile at the camera and giggle, it works, you will have your own TV series by the time you graduate. As a TV presenter she does not get hands on which is good news for animals, she comments on what real vets are doing, that picture of her with the Polar Bear is a joke, she does not know the first thing about kittens let alone bears. circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:20:13 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > : Interesting. So she's still lousy? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Bear is a joke, she does not know the first thing about kittens let alone > bears. Gee, sounds like American TV. ;-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde : circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:20:13 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, : Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : > : Gee, sounds like American TV. ;-) Jerry Springer material :{) << the cure is worse than the infection, (nail root infection) thats what the vet said. >> I'm not sure what this is exactly but one of my late cats, Emily, used to bite at the claws on her front paws mercilessly...like someone chewing their nails. Periodically, her claw would get infected. What we did, at our vet's suggestion, was to make a solution of betadine (povidone iodine) in warm water and soak her paw in it for 5 minutes 2 times a day. It worked but it was miserable getting her to keep her paw in the water that long. Betadine is messy, too, her little white paws were yellow for awhile. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) > "m. L. Briggs" <mlbriggs@nospam.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to "Synulox Palatable Drops" which are anything but palatable according to > my cat. Just ask your vet to prescribe Synulox tablets they are much more palatable (to cats) than the drops IME and easier to hide in a treat such as a small piece of cheese if your cat is difficult to pill. -- Shirley see my cats at http://communities.msn.co.uk/Friendsfamilyandfelines2 http://uk.msnusers.com/friendsfamilyandfelines3 "Shirley" <s.holland2@CATntlworld.com> wrote in message : Just ask your vet to prescribe Synulox tablets they are much more : palatable (to cats) than the drops IME and easier to hide in a treat [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : http://communities.msn.co.uk/Friendsfamilyandfelines2 : http://uk.msnusers.com/friendsfamilyandfelines3 Nice cats, how many have you got? yep I have finally arrived at that conclusion, erm smoked salmon maybe, cheese no :) > "Shirley" <s.holland2@CATntlworld.com> wrote in message > : [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Nice cats, how many have you got? yep I have finally arrived at that > conclusion, erm smoked salmon maybe, cheese no :) Only 7 now (5 feral foster cats and 2 pets) :-( Maybe he (your cat) will let you share the smoked salmon. I think the foaming at the mouth is a common occurrence with synulox drops. I hope he feels better soon. -- Shirley see my cats at http://communities.msn.co.uk/Friendsfamilyandfelines2 http://uk.msnusers.com/friendsfamilyandfelines3 circa Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:25:49 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > : >I have just given my cat synulox drops as perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml > : >straight from the bottle, it has caused him to salivate quite badly and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I did, waste of time, he is not going to own up to incompetence now is he? > Or better still give me a refund to go elsewhere. What, exactly, did the veterinarian *say* when you called him? Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde : circa Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:25:49 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, : Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] : > : What, exactly, did the veterinarian *say* when you called him? I spoke to the receptionist who said, "try putting it in his food", I have since done a test and put a couple of minute drops on a prawn, prawns are his favourite treat, he would not eat the one with the synulox so imagine what a syringe full in his food is going to do. >I have just given my cat synulox drops as >perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml straight >from the bottle, it has caused him to >salivate quite badly and has caused him >some distress, does this mean he has had >an allergic reaction? Could you describe what you mean by distress? Generally, the excess salivation is caused when something does not taste good to the cat, and some medications will even cause major foaming at the mouth if the cats gets a taste of it. If distress means he's just acting like he tasted something yucky that's probably exactly what's going on. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > >I have just given my cat synulox drops as > >perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml straight [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Megan That is what I am thinking. Bitter medications can make a cat foam something terrible. ONce I was pilling my cat Odie and he chomped down on the pill but luckily my vet had warned me. Still I was not prepared for the AMOUNT of foam that he put out. It was unpleasant. The farther back in the mouth you can get the medication the better. Karen : >I have just given my cat synulox drops as : >perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml straight [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : : Could you describe what you mean by distress? Running hither and dither, confused, panic if you like, at least thats what it looked like to me but he is ok now, he is sitting at a safe distance from the house just in case :) circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:11:03 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > : >I have just given my cat synulox drops as > : >perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml straight [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > it looked like to me but he is ok now, he is sitting at a safe distance from > the house just in case :) Yep, that's "normal". ;-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:33:32 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > I have just given my cat synulox drops as perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml > straight from the bottle, it has caused him to salivate quite badly and has > caused him some distress, does this mean he has had an allergic reaction? Does he looked pi$$ed off? If so, it's that the medicine tastes yucky and he's salivating to try to wash it out of his mouth. As long as he doesn't seem *ill*, merely annoyed, then it's likely nothing but distaste on his part. If you're really concerned, call the veterinarian. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde : circa Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:33:32 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, : Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : > : Does he looked pi$$ed off? Very. circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:05:42 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > : > I have just given my cat synulox drops as perscribed by the vet, 1.25 ml > : > straight from the bottle, it has caused him to salivate quite badly and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Very. Then it's not an allergic reaction. <G> Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde : circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:05:42 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, : Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : > : Then it's not an allergic reaction. <G> This is him in one of his usual couldnt care less poses. http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ms120er/Smudge2.jpg circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:32:54 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > : > : Does he looked pi$$ed off? > : > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ms120er/Smudge2.jpg Okay, so throw a little foam on the chin and push the ears back, and you've got a cat who doesn't like his medicine. Did he look like that? ;-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in message : Okay, so throw a little foam on the chin and push the ears back, and : you've got a cat who doesn't like his medicine. Did he look like : that? ;-) Laura, try stuffing some foam in your mouth and post the photo on here, cat suit is optional, and I will let you know if its more or less ;) circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:52:32 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, > : Okay, so throw a little foam on the chin and push the ears back, and > : you've got a cat who doesn't like his medicine. Did he look like > : that? ;-) > > Laura, try stuffing some foam in your mouth and post the photo on here, cat > suit is optional, and I will let you know if its more or less ;) I think not... SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > : circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:05:42 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > : Dermuid (gavin@ntlworld.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ms120er/Smudge2.jpg OOoo. What a pretty cat! |
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