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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2004Kitten with skinned lower jaw
Finally back online after a rather bad computer crash. Don't you just love machines? Last night at work we had a person drop off a stray kitten found on the side of the road. He's about 12 weeks old and appears very healthy and friendly at first glance. A closer look reveals that the poor thing's lower face is actually skinned...the skin of his lower jaw dangles down to his chest. His actual jaw appears fine expect being, well, skinned. I've never seen anything like it and wanted to see if anyone else had. I can't even imagine what would cause such a thing. The wound is clearly old and doesn't appear to cause him problems. In fact he eats just fine and have proven to be a big screamer when he's not getting attention. Today the various vets will be taking a look and voting if they think the damage can be fixed or if the dangling skin can be snipped off and the jaw left as is. We also have another kitten waiting for a home here. I'd take him in a heartbeat if only I was allowed because he reminds me of my Nic so much. So if anyone is looking for a 8-10 week old kitten friend in South Jersey give me a contact. He's black and white and currently suffering from a pretty bad URI that will hopefully clear up fine. Sethran (and his family...who really could support another cat and just don't want to...grrr) > Finally back online after a rather bad computer crash. Don't you just > love machines? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > thing. The wound is clearly old and doesn't appear to cause him > problems. snip Sounds like the kind of wound that can result from an animal being thrown from a moving car. (My apologies to my fellow animal lovers here. Humans can be astonishingly and thoughtlessly cruel to animals. I once lived near where unwanted cats and dogs were dumped along the road, and saw some heart-breaking scenes.) The kitty sounds like a real survivor that deserves a great home and lot of TLC! Best wishes! Sethran-glad to see you back. Poor kitty! Don't you wish they could talk, sometimes? Glad you've got him now. Please update us on the little beggar. Sherry > Sethran-glad to see you back. Poor kitty! Don't you wish they could talk, > sometimes? Glad you've got him now. Please update us on the little beggar. We have five computers in the house, three of which have internet access. We lost all three one after another. The irony of it is that the problems weren't even related. Well, our little degloved baby has a name now. The other kitten we took in with the URI I named Ray Charles because he came in almost blind (I have a very sick sense of humor). This little guy is now named Jay Leno. He had an operation today to repair the damage and so far things look good. There's some doubt if the sutures will hold (because of the tension, which I gather is why Squirt had a button sewn in). I've been told that even if they don't hold he should live a fairly normal life after it scars in, though he might always look a tad odd. His jawbone was exposed on both sides, so the damage was pretty severe and we're a little worried about his teeth staying stable (as he did not actually have gum covering them) but so far everything looks okay. The real problem now is that he's testing FIV positive. This is going to make it MUCH harder to place him. He needs to be retested anyway but until then he can't stay with other cats. And he can't stay at the clinic (as they are rapidly losing patience with having two stray kittens taking up cages). And I can't take him even to foster. Ray will be going to a local no kill shelter as soon as his URI clears up and they have space for him. I had just assumed I'd be surprising them with Jay too. Now I'm kind of stuck...especially since Ray hasn't been tested yet and I'm starting to get a bad feeling because his URI isn't clearing up as fast as it should. If I end up with two FIV positive kittens I'm going to be really screwed. The good news is that one of the doctors might take him. We're slowly pressuring him and he's starting to cave. He's the only one of us who doesn't alreadly have cats. And if Ray can't go to the shelter (because of the URI issue)and is FIV/FELV negative I know I can convince a different doctor to take him. So both of them might already have homes. I just don't want to try the clinic's patience on this matter because I don't want to lose the right to help strays that come in. Wow. Kind of rambled on there. Finding out Jay threw a positive to the test kind of shocked me today. You'd think the universe would give him a break after having his skin ripped off and everything. Sethran (who really, really wants Ray. To the point where I'm dreaming about it) Here's purring that Doc takes them in!! Every vet needs some cats around. Karen > > Sethran-glad to see you back. Poor kitty! Don't you wish they could talk, > > sometimes? Glad you've got him now. Please update us on the little beggar. [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Sethran (who really, really wants Ray. To the point where I'm > dreaming about it) >The good news is that one of the doctors might take him. We're slowly >pressuring him and he's starting to cave. He's the only one of us who [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Sethran (who really, really wants Ray. To the point where I'm >dreaming about it) Oh, gosh. I'm so sorry he's positive. Poor thing. That's my personal nightmare everytime I take in a stray, that it'll test positive. Crossing my fingers that it all turns out well for him. He deserves it. So do you. Sherry > Sethran-glad to see you back. Poor kitty! Don't you wish they could talk, > sometimes? Glad you've got him now. Please update us on the little beggar. We have five computers in the house, three of which have internet access. We lost all three one after another. The irony of it is that the problems weren't even related. Well, our little degloved baby has a name now. The other kitten we took in with the URI I named Ray Charles because he came in almost blind (I have a very sick sense of humor). This little guy is now named Jay Leno. He had an operation today to repair the damage and so far things look good. There's some doubt if the sutures will hold (because of the tension, which I gather is why Squirt had a button sewn in). I've been told that even if they don't hold he should live a fairly normal life after it scars in, though he might always look a tad odd. His jawbone was exposed on both sides, so the damage was pretty severe and we're a little worried about his teeth staying stable (as he did not actually have gum covering them) but so far everything looks okay. The real problem now is that he's testing FIV positive. This is going to make it MUCH harder to place him. He needs to be retested anyway but until then he can't stay with other cats. And he can't stay at the clinic (as they are rapidly losing patience with having two stray kittens taking up cages). And I can't take him even to foster. Ray will be going to a local no kill shelter as soon as his URI clears up and they have space for him. I had just assumed I'd be surprising them with Jay too. Now I'm kind of stuck...especially since Ray hasn't been tested yet and I'm starting to get a bad feeling because his URI isn't clearing up as fast as it should. If I end up with two FIV positive kittens I'm going to be really screwed. The good news is that one of the doctors might take him. We're slowly pressuring him and he's starting to cave. He's the only one of us who doesn't alreadly have cats. And if Ray can't go to the shelter (because of the URI issue)and is FIV/FELV negative I know I can convince a different doctor to take him. So both of them might already have homes. I just don't want to try the clinic's patience on this matter because I don't want to lose the right to help strays that come in. Wow. Kind of rambled on there. Finding out Jay threw a positive to the test kind of shocked me today. You'd think the universe would give him a break after having his skin ripped off and everything. Sethran (who really, really wants Ray. To the point where I'm dreaming about it) > Finally back online after a rather bad computer crash. Don't you just > love machines? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > be taking a look and voting if they think the damage can be fixed or > if the dangling skin can be snipped off and the jaw left as is. It's called a degloving injury and it is usually caused by being thrown from a car or from having a collar get caught on something, and pulling away. often they repair the injury by pulling as much skin as they can to the area and sweing a button on the chin. That's is what happened to my sister's kitten Squirt - I will post her story if I can find it on Flippy's page... Ah, here it is... http://www.flippyscatpage.com/squirt.html Squirt is doing fine, and gets along beautifully on three legs. -L. circa 29 Jun 2004 14:38:58 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, -L. : (usenetlyn@yahoo.com) said, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Squirt is doing fine, and gets along beautifully on three legs. People are sick. Laura  SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > It's called a degloving injury and it is usually caused by being > thrown from a car or from having a collar get caught on something, and > pulling away. often they repair the injury by pulling as much skin as > they can to the area and sweing a button on the chin. I've seen degloving wounds before. We very commonly see them to the tail after someone slammed a tail in a door. I'd just never seen one to the face before and it seemed like such an odd injury. Like I couldn't imagine how the kitten had gotten into a situation to do that. I sure hope he wasn't thrown from a car...but I wouldn't be too shocked if it were the case either. > That's is what happened to my sister's kitten Squirt - I will post her > story if I can find it on Flippy's page... Thanks for posting the link! I'm glad to hear that Squirt did well...and happy she found such a loving home! Sethran (who once saw a full body degloving injury of a cat caught in a fanbelt...and will never be able to forget it) > Sethran (who once saw a full body degloving injury of a cat caught in > a fanbelt...and will never be able to forget it) Man, that's horrible - did it survive? -L. > > Sethran (who once saw a full body degloving injury of a cat caught in > > a fanbelt...and will never be able to forget it) > > Man, that's horrible - did it survive? The cat was a feral that was being cared for by some prision guards. The man who found her and rushed her in would have paid for anything to help her...it was really, really sad. She was the favorite of most of the guards. Unfortunately three of her legs had been broken and with the degloving and various other wounds we had to put her to sleep. We couldn't even wait for the guy's friend (who was the main caretaker of the cat) to come and say goodbye...she was in so much pain we felt it kinder to just get it over with. It was the most awful collection of wounds I've ever seen on one animal. Sethran (who hates his job more often than he loves it) circa 1 Jul 2004 09:12:39 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sethran (domrunner@comcast.net) said, > > > Sethran (who once saw a full body degloving injury of a cat caught in > > > a fanbelt...and will never be able to forget it) [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Sethran (who hates his job more often than he loves it) I could never do it. I would be constantly crying and I'd end up too depressed to function. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > I could never do it. I would be constantly crying and I'd end up too depressed to function. I couldn't either. I nearly had an accident today just thinking about the asshats who killed those six puppies with firecrackers. Just thinking about it. But I am glad someone can do the work Sethran and others do. > > > Sethran (who once saw a full body degloving injury of a cat caught in > > > a fanbelt...and will never be able to forget it) [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Sethran (who hates his job more often than he loves it) Man, that's tough. :( -L. > It's called a degloving injury and it is usually caused by being > thrown from a car or from having a collar get caught on something, and > pulling away. often they repair the injury by pulling as much skin as > they can to the area and sweing a button on the chin. I've seen degloving wounds before. We very commonly see them to the tail after someone slammed a tail in a door. I'd just never seen one to the face before and it seemed like such an odd injury. Like I couldn't imagine how the kitten had gotten into a situation to do that. I sure hope he wasn't thrown from a car...but I wouldn't be too shocked if it were the case either. > That's is what happened to my sister's kitten Squirt - I will post her > story if I can find it on Flippy's page... Thanks for posting the link! I'm glad to hear that Squirt did well...and happy she found such a loving home! Sethran (who once saw a full body degloving injury of a cat caught in a fanbelt...and will never be able to forget it) circa 29 Jun 2004 05:47:03 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sethran (domrunner@comcast.net) said, > Last night at work we had a person drop off a stray kitten found on > the side of the road. He's about 12 weeks old and appears very [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > be taking a look and voting if they think the damage can be fixed or > if the dangling skin can be snipped off and the jaw left as is. Dear dawg, how *awful*! Perhaps a side effect of being hit by something (as in a vehicle)? Please let us know what the vets say. Poor little thing. :-( Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde << Sethran (and his family...who really could support another cat and just don't want to...grrr) >> Hi, Seth. Long time no see. I'm sorry about the little guy and hope he'll be okay. You need to be more convincing about getting another kitty! My 18 yr. old, Cory, died in March and we are getting a new guy tomorrow who resembles him, also b/w. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) I had a cat once that ended up with a similar wound. The vet told me she had been hit by a car, probably one of the tires. Her lower jaw was also broken. He sewed her up and although she couldn't open her mouth very wide she managed just fine after she healed. George >Finally back online after a rather bad computer crash. Don't you just >love machines? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Sethran (and his family...who really could support another cat and >just don't want to...grrr)
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