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Citgo Sign - 28 Jun 2004 16:33 GMT
My girlfriend and I are going insane trying to house train (crate) our
new puppy and to convince our amazing but shy cat not to be scared of
him.  The house training we feel OK with, it is the dog-cat
relationship that is troubling.

We are on day two.  The puppy, a boxer, is social with everybody -
animals, adults, children, everything.  The cat on the other hand is
OK with adults but gets weird around kids and very uncomfortable
around animals.  Our fault - we neglected to socialize her after
adopting her.

The puppy is at ten weeks and the cat about 1.5 years.  The cat will
carefully view the puppy from afar and even come within a yard when he
is in his crate.  But basically she has been spending all day hidden
and depressed in areas the puppy can't get to.  Meanwhile her usual
behavior of hide-and-seek, running around the apartment full-tilt,
suprise attacks, putting on a show, etc. has disappeared.

We sat on the couch last night with the puppy sleeping on my
girlfriend and with me protectively holding the cat.  When she noticed
the puppy (who had been under a blanket) she gave a very frightening
warning hiss, which we had never seen before.

We are rearranging the apartment to have a few cat-only zones
(including the bedroom) but ultimately want one, big happy family with
our formerly hilarious cat as the resident queen.

Has anyone had success with such a situation?
Laura R. - 28 Jun 2004 16:51 GMT
circa 28 Jun 2004 08:33:11 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Citgo Sign (arnold_h1970@yahoo.com) said,
> The puppy is at ten weeks and the cat about 1.5 years.  The cat will
> carefully view the puppy from afar and even come within a yard when he
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>
> Has anyone had success with such a situation?

Lots of people have. However, it takes a lot more than a day or two.
Give it time.

Laura
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Annie Wxill - 28 Jun 2004 19:28 GMT
> My girlfriend and I are going insane trying to house train (crate) our
> new puppy and to convince our amazing but shy cat not to be scared of
> him.  The house training we feel OK with, it is the dog-cat
> relationship that is troubling.

Citgo,
It should like you have some good ideas.
An energetic boxer puppy is overwhelming for a cat. You did not say the age
of the puppy.  If he is too young for basic obedience, I suggest asking
around for a puppy kindergarten class and enroll him. As soon as he is old
enough for obedience training, enroll him.  Some say the minimum age for
obedience is six months, but I've had great success starting a puppy at four
months.
Annie
Citgo Sign - 29 Jun 2004 14:39 GMT
> > My girlfriend and I are going insane trying to house train (crate) our
> > new puppy and to convince our amazing but shy cat not to be scared of
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> months.
> Annie

Thank you Annie.  We will start looking at classes (puppy is 10 weeks
right now)

We actually tried to bring in a kitten several months ago, but our cat
reacted the same, maybe even worse.   Scared of any other animal or
her turf, cat or dog, regardless of size.

Do you think she is just too poorly socially adjusted and that we
should get rid of the puppy while he is still in demand?  Or do nearly
all cats adapt with time?

Thanks so much.
Laura R. - 30 Jun 2004 00:18 GMT
circa 29 Jun 2004 06:39:15 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Citgo Sign (arnold_h1970@yahoo.com) said,

> Do you think she is just too poorly socially adjusted and that we
> should get rid of the puppy while he is still in demand?  Or do nearly
> all cats adapt with time?

I tend to lean towards the last one, myself. I think most adapt.

Laura
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Annie Wxill - 30 Jun 2004 00:56 GMT
> Thank you Annie.  We will start looking at classes (puppy is 10 weeks
> right now)
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> Thanks so much.

Citgo,
Cats in general do not like changes.  Your cat probably is more normal than
you think.
My concern with a Boxer puppy is that he will grow rapidly and will not know
his own strength. He soon could easily hurt of kill the cat by grabbing her
and shaking her in play.
I don't know your cat, but I believe that most cats adapt with time.  First,
it is important that the cat have safe places that are not accessible to the
dog.
Second, the cat needs to keep to her normal routine as much as possible.
Your attention and reassurance is of utmost importance.  If you have
established eating, playing and/or cuddle times with the cat, keep them as
well as you can.  Be sure the cat can get to food, water, and the litter box
without having to deal with the puppy.
As for the puppy, give him plenty of opportunity to work off some of that
energy. Play time and obedience classes will help.  He has to know there are
limits. Do not let him chase the cat. Do not leave him alone with the cat
until long after you are positive that they are safe.  This probably will be
after the dog is a year or more old.
Crate training him, as you are doing, is a good idea.  But, remember, he is
a baby now and needs to exercise his body and his brain. He has a lot to
learn.
Your cat and dog can learn to co-exist, and may even become good company
for each other. It will take a lot of time and effort on your part for the
next several months. Do not push the dog on the cat.  Teach the dog to give
the cat space. Slow introductions are best. Let things develop a little at a
time.
I need to tack on one more caution.  Our next-door neighbors have one-eyed
lab/pitbull cross that got too close to their cat before the cat was used to
the puppy. Hence, the one-eyed dog.
Good luck with your project.
I hope you found a good home for the kitten.
Annie
m. L. Briggs - 28 Jun 2004 22:32 GMT
>My girlfriend and I are going insane trying to house train (crate) our
>new puppy and to convince our amazing but shy cat not to be scared of
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>
>Has anyone had success with such a situation?

Have you given any thought to the size difference?  A boxer puppy
coluld look very large to a small cat.  People, too, must seem
gigantic.  If she is a naturally "scardy cat" it could be
overwhelming.

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