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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2004overweight cat over eating
I have two cats -- a 6 year old domestic shorthair male, and a 4.5 year old smoke persian female. We've had both since they were 8 weeks old. The persian has always only eated canned Iams kitten food or adult chicken flavor. She will eat nothing else, even if we feed her nothing else for a day or two. The DSH will eat anything and everything, including her food. He is overweight and on the advice of a vet we have begun feeding him only 1/4 cup of Iams dry weight control food 2x a day. He has been on this diet for 6 weeks. We feed the persian twice a day while we put him out on our screened-in patio so that he won't eat her food. The first two weeks that he was on this diet, he was fine and would snack on the food throughout the day. After the first couple of weeks, he began eating almost all the first 1/4 cup as soon as we would feed him in the morning. Thereafter, every time either my husband or I would go into the kitchen he would eat more until the food was gone (by noon). He then proceeds to howl and follow us closely at our heels until we feed him again at 5pm. Again, he'd eat it all fairly quickly. Then he would howl all night begging to be fed again. We moved his feeding time to 8pm to avoid the "night music". This only makes him follow us closely all evening, begging when we eat dinner. I don't think he's physically hungry, since this diet was working so well for awhile. My husband and I both have odd work schedules. We each either work from home or travel all week. One of us is always home though. I don't know if this has anything to do with his behavior. Prior to the diet, he'd have free access to Iams weight control dry food, with us not measuring it out and refilling his dish when it was empty. He is 13 pounds though and has been gaining 1/2-1 pound a year for the last 4 years. This year the vet expressed concern, hence the diet. Any advice as to why he may be acting the way he is, and how to curb his attention from food? CG > Any advice as to why he may be acting the way he is, and how to curbhis attention from food? All I can tell you is that I had my Big Girl Buddha, age 8, on diet Iams dry for two years and she gained weight. Now that I feed her wet food (like I said in another post, half a small can, the size of the Iams cans, in the morning and half at night) she is losing. I also give her about 1/4 cup of dry a day, in between her wet food. She is actually more excited about food, because she loves the canned food so much. However--she is losing weight slowly, like my vet said is good for them. She has probably lost half a pound in about six months. Also, she plays more and her fur is shinier and she just seems healthier. circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:52:58 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, > > Any advice as to why he may be acting the way he is, and how to curbhis > attention from food? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > pound in about six months. Also, she plays more and her fur is shinier and > she just seems healthier. I was thinking that switching to wet food (the OP, that is) would be a good idea, as well. Might be worth a shot. Laura  SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde >> Any advice as to why he may be acting the way he is, and how to curbhis > attention from food? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > pound in about six months. Also, she plays more and her fur is shinier and > she just seems healthier. Awww Jackie looks pooped! But comfortable :) I hope she continues to improve. > >> Any advice as to why he may be acting the way he is, and how to curbhis > > attention from food? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Awww Jackie looks pooped! But comfortable :) I hope she continues to > improve. ??? circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:27:57 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, > > Awww Jackie looks pooped! But comfortable :) I hope she continues to > > improve. > > ??? I think this was meant to go into the Meow Mix Olympics thread. ;-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde >circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:27:57 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, >Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Laura Wrong thread indeed but yes, Jackie was pooped. She had just eaten most of a can of Innova. They other kids wouldn't touch it but she seemed to think it was ok. > > Any advice as to why he may be acting the way he is, and how to curbhis > attention from food? > > All I can tell you is that I had my Big Girl Buddha, age 8, on diet Iams dry > for two years and she gained weight. <butting into another thread> Oh no!!!! That is what I am using!!!! Now that I feed her wet food (like I > said in another post, half a small can, the size of the Iams cans, in the > morning and half at night) she is losing. I also give her about 1/4 cup of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pound in about six months. Also, she plays more and her fur is shinier and > she just seems healthier. Right!!! I read this with deep attention. Seems there are two of us here in the same boat.. Though I haven't seen any tinned Iams about at all. I shop on-line. Perhaps I should buy cat food in bulk, online as well. Never thought about this before. Anybody here from the UK? Any suggestions? Vee > Right!!! I read this with deep attention. Seems there are two of us here in the same boat.. Though I haven't seen any tinned Iams about at all. Vee--I don't feed my girls Iams, I was just using the canned Iams to give you an idea of the size of the can. (I assumed that you might have seen one since you feed Iams dry.) Everyone busts on me about this, but I actually feed them Fancy Feast--only the flavor called "chopped grill." I know I need to feed them better quality food, but they LOVE this stuff. Every other variety of FF they can take or leave, and often don't finish it. But this "chopped grill" makes them beatific!! I pop the top on the can and I am a goddess in their beautiful green eyes! They stand there and watch my every move and talk to me the whole time. They eat every bit. This they have never done with another cat food. So, just find a canned food that they like--satisfaction with the taste seems key. (I do plan to find another brand that is better quality, just haven't gotten to it. If I were you I would start out with a decent one, the best you can afford. Here FF is forty cents a can; I think the premium cat foods from the pet places are about a dollar a can. > > Right!!! I read this with deep attention. Seems there are two of us here > in the same boat.. Though I haven't seen any tinned Iams about at all. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > since you feed Iams dry.) Everyone busts on me about this, but I actually > feed them Fancy Feast You have great names for your cat food. Here FF is forty > cents a can; I think the premium cat foods from the pet places are about a > dollar a can. Anybody know the exchange rate? 8( You are right though, cats can be so picky. I buy a pack of four tins of Hi-life for DaftCat, which are all fish mixes. Three of them he eats. The fourth, salmon mousse (Oh, my word...) with added fish cutlets, or something just as daft, he treats with contempt. Resul?. A slow build up of tins of pinky fluff with bits in. One of these days I will make a fisherman's pie and feed it to the man. I know one thing. If a cat shows a decided preference for one flavour.. watch it! It is just waiting until you lug in a case of 24 tins before deciding you are trying to poison him. vee "Vee" <marrowjam@[totally wild}blueyonder.co.uk> wrote; >> Fancy Feast > > You have great names for your cat food. Great name but garbage food, so they say. > Here FF is forty > > cents a can; I think the premium cat foods from the pet places are about a > > dollar a can. > > > Anybody know the exchange rate? 8( I don't know that, but I found a neat site about the nutrition in UK cat food brands "tinned" as you say! The web site is for kitties with renal problems but the breakdown is helpful for all. Might help you choose. http://www.felinecrf.org/tinned_food.htm Here is a site where folks in the UK can get free samples of cat food: http://www.freenclearstuff.com/pet.htm#UK Lastly, here is a Yahoo UK site with prices for cat foods available there. I wanted to mention to you that although I have never used the wet/tinned food, I fet my cat who lived to be 20 Science Diet dry for 15 years or so, and she never had a health problem. (Of course, she was probably just genetically blessed, too.) Anyway, tinned SD is on this site: http://uk.shopping.yahoo.com/search.html?cat=6274&mrc=0&m=b >A slow build up of tins of > pinky fluff with bits in. One of these days I will make a fisherman's pie > and feed it to the man. Hee! Let us know if it make his eyes brighter and his coat shinier! circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:01:05 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, > Here FF is forty > > cents a can; I think the premium cat foods from the pet places are about a > > dollar a can. > > > Anybody know the exchange rate? 8( Today? 1 USD = 0.5516 GBP. SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde >Any advice as to why he may be acting the way he is, and how to curb >his attention from food? They have those automatic feeders in which you can put a few smaller portions a day. They open on a timing device. Perhaps you can feed a tiny bit of wet in the morning then let him eat from the feeder the rest of the day? Make sure you don't feed him the second you wake up or he will wake you up every morning. Wait until after you have coffee and the paper so he associates coffee and paper with food instead of dragging you out of bed. Maybe he could use a little exercise as well, playing with a toy on a string, laser mouse for 15 minutes a day. > >Any advice as to why he may be acting the way he is, and how to curb > >his attention from food? > > <snippy> "........ Maybe he could use a little > exercise as well, playing with a toy on a string, laser mouse for 15 minutes a day." What if the cat runs in terror from any kind of dangling or dragged mousy on a string? I suppose the running, is okay, but straight under the table? The only time The Phantom moves faster than a stroll is when he thinks food is about to be offered. Though to be fair, he is starting to learn how to play. It has taken over a year, mind. His favourite form of excersise is falling on the floor. Considering husband shuffles about on either a walking frame or two crutches, this habit of turning into a speed bump is a pesky nuciance. Vee >> >Any advice as to why he may be acting the way he is, and how to curb >> >his attention from food? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Vee Try a laser pointer, my otherwise cushion like cat goes bonkers for the red dot and will chase it till she's panting! > >His favourite form of excersise is falling on the floor. Considering husband > >shuffles about on either a walking frame or two crutches, this habit of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Try a laser pointer, my otherwise cushion like cat goes bonkers for > the red dot and will chase it till she's panting! I have seen these and worried about them. Can they hurt the eyes? vee > I have seen these and worried about them. Can they hurt the eyes? Yes, but you just don't shine them there. They make my cats climb the walls, they LOVE them! Buddha actually zips around and moves so fast it is unbelievable, and really funny, too, because she is so rotund. This petite tuxedo with four white feet, a white nose, and a white bib and bikini. What you have to do is let them "catch" it once in a while to keep it interesting--e.g. turn it off when they pounce on it. It's a riot, and great exercise--for the cats. The other great thing is that you don't have to move anything but your hand. > > I have seen these and worried about them. Can they hurt the eyes? > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > exercise--for the cats. The other great thing is that you don't have to move > anything but your hand. Lawks. I will keep it in mind. As for only moving your hand... I have a longish.. about three foot bit of fairly flexible plastic ctrip.. I think it was for hanging a poster, you know the sort of thing, sort of 'U' shaped. Anyway. I habe bordged a hole in the top and attached a huge length of chain crocheted cotton yarn and put a paper mousy on the end. Wrap the yarn you don't need round the hande and use it like a fly fishing rod. jammy. Sit in an arm chair and 'flick!' mousy lands halfway over the room. With practice I can now land the mousy in fairly narrow places like on the windowsill, top of the small chair-table etc, and all without leaving the comfort of my own armchair. Snag. The Phantom will only pounce if he thinks he is hidden - you know, like great big fat cat hiding behind inch wide table leg? And then he just puts out a paw. Now what I wanted to find was a 'cat dancer' like what they had in the Catz program. Does anyone play that anymore? It used to drive DaftCat to distraction, the continual meows coming from the corner. I am cruel, I am. Big ginger cat swaggers up the road. Hide behind curtain and 'MEOW!' like a deranged Siamese. Ginger C freezes, mid stride. Look all round... 'MEE-OW-OW-OW!!' Attracted by my vocal yowls my two cats know what is going on and dash up to the windowsill. 'ME-OW!' Ginger cat now spots two scowling fury faces. Chin goes out. Whiskers bristle. 'Wot do you think you two are up to? Wanna fight? Come down here then!' It is at this point I creep away. So far my two have not gone down to continue the discussion at closer quarters, the craven cowards. Vee circa Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:06:44 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, > Lawks. I will keep it in mind. As for only moving your hand... I have a > longish.. about three foot bit of fairly flexible plastic ctrip.. I think it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > windowsill, top of the small chair-table etc, and all without leaving the > comfort of my own armchair. Sounds like you made your own version of a cat dancer. :-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:01:05 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, > > Try a laser pointer, my otherwise cushion like cat goes bonkers for > > the red dot and will chase it till she's panting! > > I have seen these and worried about them. Can they hurt the eyes? We actually had a debate with our resident wingnut about this some years back. In a nutshell: Do not use the green ones; they are much higher-powered and more dangerous. In order for the red ones to damage the eye, you would have to shine the light directly into the eye for a significant length of time (like a minute). They're fine. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:01:05 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > We actually had a debate with our resident wingnut about this some > years back. In a nutshell: 'Wingnut?' baffled and enchanted. > Do not use the green ones; they are much higher-powered and more > dangerous. > > In order for the red ones to damage the eye, you would have to shine > the light directly into the eye for a significant length of time > (like a minute). Right! There were a couple of cases over here of teachers being zapped by well-behaved and 'my marvin, would never do a thing like that' pupils in the classroom. It made me cautious. V circa Fri, 25 Jun 2004 08:59:51 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, > > circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:01:05 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > > Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > 'Wingnut?' baffled and enchanted. Would you like the literal definition of a wingnut, or the figurative definition? :-) > > Do not use the green ones; they are much higher-powered and more > > dangerous. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > well-behaved and 'my marvin, would never do a thing like that' pupils in the > classroom. It made me cautious. Safe as houses, if used responsibly. :-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in message > > > > > Try a laser pointer, my otherwise cushion like cat goes bonkers for > > > > > the red dot and will chase it till she's panting! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Would you like the literal definition of a wingnut, or the figurative > definition? :-) Yes. <slopes of to check her dictionary> Who was it said, some time in the 19th Cent, that in a hundred years English and Americans wouldn't be able to understand each other's language? V circa Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:53:33 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, > > > 'Wingnut?' baffled and enchanted. > > > > Would you like the literal definition of a wingnut, or the figurative > > definition? :-) > > Yes. <slopes of to check her dictionary> Let me know if you didn't find two definitions. :-) > Who was it said, some time in the 19th Cent, that in a hundred years English > and Americans wouldn't be able to understand each other's language? Most of my Brit friends refer to what we speak over here as "American", not "English". Snooty imperialist bastids. ;-) What's the expression- two countries separated by a common language? Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in message > > > > 'Wingnut?' baffled and enchanted. > > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Let me know if you didn't find two definitions. :-) I found them Tell me!!!! I presume, in this context,it means 'egg-head', boffin, expert,' etc. but why 'wingnut?' Unless his ears stick out more than normal. > Most of my Brit friends refer to what we speak over here as > "American", not "English". Snooty imperialist bastids. ;-) That's being a bit picky. Do people say 'Australian English?' mind, one of the funniest things I ever saw/heard was one day a couple of Mormon missionaries turned up here in the pouring rain. One of the boys, young, tall, tanned... looked very doleful. Seems it was his third day in the UK. First day had been spent in a local city/town area called Bilston. Area, run-down, tough, and very 'Black Country' (name for the area where I live.) When I asked him how he got on he said: 'not very well. I thought I was coming to a country where they spoke English.' Whaaa-haaa! Even I have problems understanding what some of the people say over there. Like 'Yourn moggy is a bostin wamel. It likes we.' Poor lad. > What's the expression- two countries separated by a common language? Supposed to be from Churchill, isn't it? Hm. I have big soft spot for your H Allen Smith, and naturally, Mark Twain. I seem to have a thing about reporters. Vee > That's being a bit picky. Do people say 'Australian >English?' I think the language differences are fascinating, and I love that you post in your usual language. I like the differences in the regional dialects here in the US, too. Along with regional foods, attitudes, and weather, they keep places colorful! I used to worry that the so-called "globalizing" nature of technology would erase all the differences--until I learned that others predicted that with the advent of television, and that certainly has not happened. > Like 'Yourn moggy is a bostin wamel. It likes we.' > Poor lad. This is "Australian" for ...? circa Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:07:15 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, > I think the language differences are fascinating, and I love that you post > in your usual language. I like the differences in the regional dialects here [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > predicted that with the advent of television, and that certainly has not > happened. I love cultural differences. I find them fascinating, and will unabashedly ask any silly question that pops into my head when faced with somebody who comes from a different culture than I. You'd be amazed at how much I've learned about Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, keeping kosher, arranged marriages, Ramadan and caste systems just 'cause I'll ask anybody anything. I probably come across as socially retarded, but at least I learn about new stuff. Screw social graces; curiosity gets you to the end result faster. :-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > circa Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:07:15 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > keeping kosher, arranged marriages, Ramadan and caste systems just > 'cause I'll ask anybody anything. How else can we learn???? > I probably come across as socially retarded, but at least I learn > about new stuff. Screw social graces; curiosity gets you to the end > result faster. :-) You have no idea how many times I have been baffled by something in an American book and really needed to ask a stupid question. Do tell me.. Are you the kind of person who can stand in a que and end up having fascinatint conversations with the people on either side? I have met some amazing people at bus stops, and on trains. V circa Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:10:18 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Veronica (marrowjam@wildblueyonder.co.uk) said, > > I love cultural differences. I find them fascinating, and will > > unabashedly ask any silly question that pops into my head when faced [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > How else can we learn???? Exactly. > > I probably come across as socially retarded, but at least I learn > > about new stuff. Screw social graces; curiosity gets you to the end [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > some amazing people at bus stops, and on trains. > V To say "yes" would be an understatement. Even here in NY. :-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote > > Do tell me.. Are you the kind of person who can stand in a que and end up > > having fascinatint conversations with the people on either side? I have met > > some amazing people at bus stops, and on trains. > > V > To say "yes" would be an understatement. Even here in NY. :-) > > Laura Laura and Veronica--Me too! My husband thinks it is abnormal. I tell him normalcy is highly overrated! This is a short trip at its longest, and I'm getting everything I can out of it! > "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote > > Do tell > me.. Are you the kind of person who can stand in a que and end up [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > normalcy is highly overrated! This is a short trip at its longest, and I'm > getting everything I can out of it! I must point you towards a bit on my web - when I do it - some of the folk I have met on trains and coaches have been doozies. I wonder what they thought of me??? 8( You tell people it is completely normal - normal for friendly outgoing people, that is... One thing I have yet to write up.. At town bus station in Dudley coming home from daily hospital run when Ronald was 'inside'. Little old man next to me looking glum. Got nattering. At one point he said he was 'bored'. hum. me, knowing it all, said 'You should get a computer. That will keep you interested.' He gave a twinkle, opened a shopping bag - a lap top. Ugh. Well shut mah mouth! Why did he have a lap-top in his little bag? Little old man had been to techinical college for some reason but he knew computers because he had worked with Alan Turing at Bletchley Park (code breakers) in WWII. I had a red face.. He was nice. They 'were' busy rebuilding the original computer config at Bletchley and he was a consultant. Heard last year, I think, that said rebuild was up and running and everyone pleased, and I sure hope he was there. They had stopped him from driving because of heart problems, and in a way I am glad (nasty) because he was excellent talker and fascinating. He told me which person he was, when young and bouncy, on the best-known photo of the Bletchley computer gang. very secret. I have forgotten which face his was though. Shame that. Saw him again, once or twice at a shopping centre but we live in vastly different areas. me in little house area, him in rather leafy, bigger houses, 'money in them there hills, area. Nice bloke. Cured me of offering elderly men hints on how to expand their minds. Next time I will suggest they get a cat. V circa Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:06:26 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Veronica (marrowjam@wildblueyonder.co.uk) said, > I must point you towards a bit on my web - when I do it - some of the folk I > have met on trains and coaches have been doozies. > I wonder what they thought of me??? 8( > > You tell people it is completely normal - normal for friendly outgoing > people, that is... Heck, I don't care if it's normal or not; it's *interesting*. :-) > One thing I have yet to write up.. At town bus station in Dudley coming home > from daily hospital run when Ronald was 'inside'. Little old man next to me [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Heard last year, I think, that said rebuild was up and running and everyone > pleased, and I sure hope he was there. That is just TOO cool! > They had stopped him from driving because of heart problems, and in a way I > am glad (nasty) because he was excellent talker and fascinating. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Cured me of offering elderly men hints on how to expand their minds. > Next time I will suggest they get a cat. The last time I struck up a random conversation with an older gentleman was on a flight from Madrid to Philadelphia. He turned out to be the [U.S.] President's personal butler. Mind you, staff such as those do not change when administrations change, so he had been the personal butler to Reagan, Papa Bush, Clinton *and* Baby Bush. He was two years away from retirement and utterly charming, with a lovely soft Spanish accent (he was from Madrid originally). I gained a whole new perspective on the men who have been in the White House for the past two decades over the course of that flight. And I didn't like Shrub any more after that flight than I did before the flight. <G> Aside from the fact that he showed me his State Department ID and various snapshots and business cards, the solicitous tutorial on how to work the seats in the first-class cabin that he gave me would have been enough to convince me. :-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in message > > The last time I struck up a random conversation with an older > gentleman was on a flight from Madrid to Philadelphia. He turned out [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > past two decades over the course of that flight. And I didn't like > Shrub any more after that flight than I did before the flight. <G> Oh, Eyeballs out on stalks time. What fun. Dread to think what a butler in Number Ten would be like; the man whimpering in the corner and biting his nails? > Aside from the fact that he showed me his State Department ID and > various snapshots and business cards, the solicitous tutorial on how > to work the seats in the first-class cabin that he gave me would have > been enough to convince me. :-) That is interesting. Do you get people saying 'they were having you on..' 'Why do you believe EVERYTHING anyone tells you?' I don;t, but if it makes a good story... Okay, I see your butler and raise you one gay Scotsman in full war-paint who was an expert on repairing bagpipes. Vee. circa Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:03:56 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Veronica (marrowjam@wildblueyonder.co.uk) said, > That is interesting. Do you get people saying 'they were having you on..' > 'Why do you believe EVERYTHING anyone tells you?' Not more than once. ;-) > I don;t, but if it makes a good story... > > Okay, I see your butler and raise you one gay Scotsman in full war-paint who > was an expert on repairing bagpipes. Okay, let's see...Tony Danza tried to steal my luggage at LaGuardia about six months ago. Well, technically his driver or whatever did it, but TD was standing there whining into his cell phone the whole time. Or there's the guy with pink hair and a skirt carrying a mannequin head in a milk crate onto the commuter train in Chicago some years back. Oh, wait- if we stick with the Scotsman theme- I was serenaded by Nazareth one evening. And then there was the guy in a kilt playing bagpipes in the middle of 58th street during the World Series last year... Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in message > > Okay, I see your butler and raise you one gay Scotsman in full war-paint who > > was an expert on repairing bagpipes. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it, but TD was standing there whining into his cell phone the whole > time. Who? > Or there's the guy with pink hair and a skirt carrying a mannequin > head in a milk crate onto the commuter train in Chicago some years > back. That one sounds promising. 8) > Oh, wait- if we stick with the Scotsman theme- I was serenaded by > Nazareth one evening. The place? Who are all these people? > And then there was the guy in a kilt playing bagpipes in the middle > of 58th street during the World Series last year... That doesn't count. Shory answer. Feeling stroppy. Battling with server. White wax and sharp pins brought out Vee circa Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:07:51 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Veronica (marrowjam@wildblueyonder.co.uk) said, > > Okay, let's see...Tony Danza tried to steal my luggage at LaGuardia > > about six months ago. Well, technically his driver or whatever did > > it, but TD was standing there whining into his cell phone the whole > > time. > > Who? Cheesy American C-list actor. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001103/ > > Or there's the guy with pink hair and a skirt carrying a mannequin > > head in a milk crate onto the commuter train in Chicago some years [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The place? Who are all these people? The band. http://www.nazarethdirect.co.uk/ Now, just to placate the control freaks, my kitties grow ever more relaxed with each other. There, I talked about cats. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa Sat, 26 Jun 2004 07:44:42 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, > "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > boffin, expert,' etc. but why 'wingnut?' Unless his ears stick out more than > normal. Well, in reference to our resident wingnut, it means that it's pretty easy to spin his little head right around on its bolt and that there's a big hole in the middle of it. You'll recognize him when he starts talking about his cats' astral projection habits and how they talk to him. No, literally. > > Most of my Brit friends refer to what we speak over here as > > "American", not "English". Snooty imperialist bastids. ;-) > > That's being a bit picky. Do people say 'Australian English?' Oh, no, these Brits don't even grace us with the "English" part of it. We just speak "American", while they speak "English". And I'm guessing y'all don't have the Foster's commercials over there with the tagline, "Foster's. Australian for 'beer'." Seems down there in Oz they're quite comfy with admitting to their own language. > mind, one of > the funniest things I ever saw/heard was one day a couple of Mormon [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > When I asked him how he got on he said: 'not very well. I thought I was > coming to a country where they spoke English.' Yeah, but Mormons don't count anyway. The inbreeding messes with their linguistic skills. > Whaaa-haaa! Even I have problems understanding what some of the people say > over there. Like 'Yourn moggy is a bostin wamel. It likes we.' I got everything but the "bostin wamel" part. :-P > Poor lad. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I have big soft spot for your H Allen Smith, and naturally, Mark Twain. I > seem to have a thing about reporters. At least yours is an admirable criterion. I have a thing for Indian men; it's hard not to come across as shallow when dusky skin and an Indian accent get me all randy. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > Well, in reference to our resident wingnut, it means that it's pretty > easy to spin his little head right around on its bolt and that > there's a big hole in the middle of it. Beautiful!!! You'll recognize him when he > starts talking about his cats' astral projection habits and how they > talk to him. No, literally. Oh, that sounds reasonable enough, I don't see the problem there. Let's face it we already know cats can teleport from on top of a sunlit quilt in a bedroom to between your feet in the kitchen. Have you ever come across a little book by Terry Pratchett (of Discworld fame), called 'The Unadulterated Cat'? In it he lists quite a few little-known cat abilities. It in an excellent book and I cannot praise it too highly as a hand book for 'Real cat' owners. <giggle> > > > Most of my Brit friends refer to what we speak over here as > > > "American", not "English". Snooty imperialist bastids. ;-) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Oh, no, these Brits don't even grace us with the "English" part of > it. We just speak "American", while they speak "English". It's strange, isn;t it? Here we are (by we, I mean 'real' English people), boasting about the richness of our language and how we have ten words for every one in say French, or German (easy choices, not seriously) and how it changed contunually since that fell and awful William came over her, yet ... I have lost my place in theis sentence... 8( Words added in the time of Dr Johnson, are Good. Words added at the time of the Venerable Bede are brilliant! Words added through watching American TV are Bad. There is a person, in my local branch library who reads the same detective, crime fiction I like. This ... person (grrrr) reads the books with a pencil in their hands and crosses out every instance of say 'color' instead of colour, etc, irrespective of whether the book was writ by US or Brit author. I have seen 'sidewalk' and 'broadwalk' crossed out and 'pavement' inserted - a completely different thing! It enrages me. Spoils the reading, and means I have to rub all the pencil out with a bit of putty-rubber. We have tracked him down.. He is a doddery self-righteous old gent of Strong Views. He is also fighting a losing battle. Spoken language changes all the time and authors will reflect this. Long may it continue to change, I say. Bo-boopy-doo and Hot Dog! > And I'm guessing y'all don't have the Foster's commercials over there > with the tagline, "Foster's. Australian for 'beer'." Seems down there > in Oz they're quite comfy with admitting to their own language. Oh yes we do! 8))))) Oh the Australians are brilliant at inventing good words. Mind, they are all crazy - I wish I lived down there - who else would hold an annual boating regatta on a dry river bed? > Yeah, but Mormons don't count anyway. The inbreeding messes with > their linguistic skills. Giggle.. I don;t mind any of them, despite holding Strong Views of my own. They tell me I will go straight to hell, anyway. ..... Like 'Yourn moggy is a bostin wamel. It likes we.' > I got everything but the "bostin wamel" part. :-P A nice/great animal. > At least yours is an admirable criterion. I have a thing for Indian > men; it's hard not to come across as shallow when dusky skin and an > Indian accent get me all randy. I used to have a thing about tall blonde hairy Vikings until I went out with a tall blonde hairy man when I was younger. Muscles of iron; head of wood. Thus was damned all tall blonde hairy men in my mind. But there are nice ones about. V "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote > > 'Wingnut?' baffled and enchanted. > Would you like the literal definition of a wingnut, or the figurative definition? :-) Give her both but don't introduce her to CP or the enchantment will be over. circa Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:57:27 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, > > Would you like the literal definition of a wingnut, or the figurative > definition? :-) > > Give her both but don't introduce her to CP or the enchantment will be over. <guffaw> She's probably figured him out by now... Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > circa Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:57:27 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > <guffaw> She's probably figured him out by now... No I haven't! V circa Sat, 26 Jun 2004 07:44:43 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, > > > > Would you like the literal definition of a wingnut, or the figurative > > > definition? :-) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > No I haven't! You will, fear not. You will... Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:11:08 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, > His favourite form of excersise is falling on the floor. Considering husband > shuffles about on either a walking frame or two crutches, this habit of > turning into a speed bump is a pesky nuciance. I see that your cat has learned all the best cat tricks. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:11:08 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Laura Grrr. I think you lot are right. It is high time that grey barrage balloon moved to a mixed diet. he will eat wet food fast enough when the biscuits disappear. I just feel so bad about it. And you know what a soft touch my husband is for a pair of hopeful green eyes. Just a cotton-pickin' moment!!!! Does this mean I will have to take crates of cat food to bed with me???? Vee circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:01:06 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Vee (marrowjam@[totally) said, > I just feel so bad about it. And you know what a soft touch my husband is > for a pair of hopeful green eyes. > > Just a cotton-pickin' moment!!!! Does this mean I will have to take crates > of cat food to bed with me???? Stick 'em under the mattress. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde Can you feed you cat smaller amounts (more often) during the day? This way, he's getting the same amount of food..just in different amounts - more often! >I have two cats -- a 6 year old domestic shorthair male, and a 4.5 >year old smoke persian female. I have to agree with the other posters. You should consider introducing wet food to your overweight cat's diet. A mix of wet and dry has been very successful for me and my cat and she has been steadily loosing weight for the past 9 months or so. You also need to remember that any weight loss will be slow and you should reduce amounts of food fed gradually. Good Luck!!
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