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rattlesnake bite
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Groundgirlz - 22 Jun 2004 19:36 GMT I live in San Diego and my cat just recently survived a rattlesnake bite, just letting everyone know to make sure their cats have bells on to alert rattlers of their presence to protect them. Also I went with steroidal & antibiotic treatment as opposed to antivenom, reason? I think he survived by being home with family instead of being in a kennel with needles being stuck in him, also the antivenom can cause anaphalytic shock and kill them rather than save em. Keep your cats safe!
Karen - 22 Jun 2004 21:56 GMT > I live in San Diego and my cat just recently survived a rattlesnake bite, just > letting everyone know to make sure their cats have bells on to alert rattlers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the antivenom can cause anaphalytic shock and kill them rather than save em. > Keep your cats safe! I knew a great dane that survived a bite. He was prone to seizures the rest of his life, but he was pretty happy despite it and lived to be 14 or 15. Hope your kitty is well.
Karen
Groundgirlz - 23 Jun 2004 00:21 GMT Thank you for your concern, so far so good!.
Magic Mood Jeep? - 22 Jun 2004 23:11 GMT Snakes have no sense of hearing, so bells on cats (or any other animal, for that matter) will help. What alerts a snake to your presence is the vibrations they feel on the ground and/or your smell. When going hiking in the woods, some people I know carry a walking stick & thump it on the ground every few steps. They have yet to meet ANY snake, let alone a rattler.
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> I live in San Diego and my cat just recently survived a rattlesnake bite, just > letting everyone know to make sure their cats have bells on to alert rattlers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the antivenom can cause anaphalytic shock and kill them rather than save em. > Keep your cats safe! Groundgirlz - 23 Jun 2004 00:24 GMT >Subject: Re: rattlesnake bite >From: "Magic Mood Jeep©" nobody@nowhere.net [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >em. >> Keep your cats safe! Interesting, here I'm thinking my cat will be a bit safer only to find out nope? Well let's just hope he walks a bit heavier.
MacCandace - 23 Jun 2004 04:32 GMT << Interesting, here I'm thinking my cat will be a bit safer only to find out nope? Well let's just hope he walks a bit heavier. >>
I'd convert him to an indoor cat if I were you. He'd be safer. Get him lots of toys, cat trees, windows, he'll adapt. If you have rattlesnakes, you probably have coyotes, too, so it's not safe out there.
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Groundgirlz - 27 Jun 2004 03:01 GMT >Subject: Re: rattlesnake bite >From: maccandace@aol.comlitter (MacCandace)
>I'd convert him to an indoor cat if I were you. He'd be safer. Get him lots >of toys, cat trees, windows, he'll adapt. If you have rattlesnakes, you [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other >than human." (Loren Eisely) He was originally an outdoor cat but the little pooh got out and lemme tell you once a siamese gets a yen for the big outdoors you either go deaf, cut his vocals or let him go. I opted to let him go outside, and usually we are closer to the beach area this place inland is just temporary so I'm just counting the days.
nobody@junk.min.net - 22 Jun 2004 23:46 GMT >I live in San Diego and my cat just recently survived a rattlesnake bite, >just letting everyone know to make sure their cats have bells on to alert >rattlers of their presence to protect them. Also I went with steroidal & Snakes have no ears - they can't hear.
Alan
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-L. : - 23 Jun 2004 07:08 GMT > I live in San Diego and my cat just recently survived a rattlesnake bite, just > letting everyone know to make sure their cats have bells on to alert rattlers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the antivenom can cause anaphalytic shock and kill them rather than save em. > Keep your cats safe! You can cut down on the likelihood of snakes in your yard by clearing debris and any stacked wood that might be around. Keep all your brush and grass trimmed. As others mentioned, a snake won't hear a bell.
As for anaphalaxis, yes, it *can* occur, but in instances where the snake is large or there appears to be a large invenomation, antivenin is usually required to save the animal. Cats are just too small as compared to a good-sized rattler. But again - it should be a decision made between you and your vet. Do you know what species it was that hit your cat?
-L.
Sherry - 23 Jun 2004 15:31 GMT >You can cut down on the likelihood of snakes in your yard by clearing >debris and any stacked wood that might be around. Keep all your brush >and grass trimmed. As others mentioned, a snake won't hear a bell. There is also a granular product designed to use as a perimeter that snakes (allegedly) will not cross. It's called "Snake-Away". I bought some but haven't used it yet. I've also been advised that snakes don't like short, fresh-cut grass. BTW, Lyn, have you seen the pic of "my" snake that's living in the cellar? http://members.aol.com/greywolf17/snake1.jpg Sherry
Laura R. - 23 Jun 2004 19:16 GMT circa 23 Jun 2004 14:31:23 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry (sriddles@aol.comkitty) said,
> BTW, Lyn, have you seen the pic of "my" snake that's living in the cellar? > http://members.aol.com/greywolf17/snake1.jpg > Sherry I'm suddenly very glad that I don't have a cellar.
Laura
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Sherry - 23 Jun 2004 19:46 GMT >(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said, >> BTW, Lyn, have you seen the pic of "my" snake that's living in the cellar? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Laura It's probably not what you guys call a cellar. It's a storm shelter, not attached to the house at all. I am *not* a natural-born snake lover. But I am learning to co-habit with the bullsnakes anyway. At first I was all hot to get rid of it, then I got used to the idea and it doesn't bother me much anymore.
Sherry
Mary - 23 Jun 2004 20:45 GMT > I am *not* a natural-born snake lover. Me either but I think he's beautiful. He would take care of my vole problem in the garden, and I wouldn't have to worry too much about him getting hit by a car.
Laura R. - 23 Jun 2004 20:55 GMT circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:45:37 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary (rosefan@email.com) said,
> > I am *not* a natural-born snake lover. > > Me either but I think he's beautiful. He would take care of my vole problem > in the garden, and I wouldn't have to worry too much about him getting hit > by a car. I like snakes. I just don't like 'em loose in my cellar. :-)
Laura
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Annie Wxill - 23 Jun 2004 23:15 GMT > >(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said, > It's probably not what you guys call a cellar. It's a storm shelter, not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sherry Well, if it will make you feel any better, we had a snake under our hot tub for about a year and a toad under our front porch for about 10 years. I didn't know toads lived that long. Annie
-L. : - 24 Jun 2004 01:04 GMT > >(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said, > >> BTW, Lyn, have you seen the pic of "my" snake that's living in the cellar? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Sherry They're incredibly beneficial. Just keep the kitties away...it looks huge!
-L.
Mary - 23 Jun 2004 20:26 GMT "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote > I'm suddenly very glad that I don't have a cellar.
Well, yah, but you do have those giant alligators in the sewer system.
Laura R. - 23 Jun 2004 20:52 GMT circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:26:14 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary (rosefan@email.com) said,
> "Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote > I'm > suddenly very glad that I don't have a cellar. > > Well, yah, but you do have those giant alligators in the sewer system. Yeah, but the dog-sized rats keep 'em under control.
Laura
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Mary - 23 Jun 2004 22:17 GMT > circa Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:26:14 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Laura The Balance of Nature. Gotta love it.
-L. : - 23 Jun 2004 23:04 GMT > >You can cut down on the likelihood of snakes in your yard by clearing > >debris and any stacked wood that might be around. Keep all your brush [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > http://members.aol.com/greywolf17/snake1.jpg > Sherry Beautiful! You must have had some mice around - he looks nice and fat!
-L.
Kindred Spirit - 23 Jun 2004 21:47 GMT A high dose injection of sodium ascorbate will counteract the venom of a snake bit.
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