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HBG - 16 Jun 2004 20:22 GMT
Hi all,

I have a 17-year old cat who has recently become hyperthyroid.  For
the last 2 years or so, she exclusively urinates outside the litter
box.  She uses her box for feces no problem.  I've tried a new box,
moving the box away from  other boxes, changing litters,etc...all to
no avail.  If I treat the area she urinates in to get rid of the
smell, (and it never really goes away), then she just moves and
urinates in an untreated area. Any thoughts?  I've had to rip up
carpet in multiple rooms and my whole house stinks like cat pee.  I'm
at my wit's end on this.

thanks for any suggestions,
HBG
Laura R. - 16 Jun 2004 20:48 GMT
circa 16 Jun 2004 12:22:58 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, HBG
(hbgrygier@ctt-texas.net) said,

> Hi all,
>
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> carpet in multiple rooms and my whole house stinks like cat pee.  I'm
> at my wit's end on this.

I'm assuming that the veterinarian has ruled out any medical cause
for this? Did the inappropriate urination start before or after the
hyper-t?

Laura
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Goat Roper - 16 Jun 2004 21:25 GMT
This is a tough one.  I've had to make the decision to put down cats three
times in the past.  One at age 18, one at 17, and one at 15.  Get a
recommendation from  your vet, and take his recommendation.  My decisions
were black and white because the animals were in considerable pain.  It
still hurt like hell, and to this day even though I believe that it was time
to end the pain, my eyes water up when I think about it.(like now for
example.)

Our pets rely on us for everything, and that includes when to make the
toughest decision of all.
Laura R. - 16 Jun 2004 22:40 GMT
circa Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:25:05 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Goat Roper (xxxxx@sssss.fffff) said,
> This is a tough one.  I've had to make the decision to put down cats three
> times in the past.  One at age 18, one at 17, and one at 15.  Get a
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> Our pets rely on us for everything, and that includes when to make the
> toughest decision of all.

Whoa, hold up a second! Where did the OP indicate that the cat is
suffering in any way?

Laura
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Goat Roper - 16 Jun 2004 23:31 GMT
OH crap!, I posted this to the wrong posting.  I think I am the one that is
beginning to suffer.

PLEASE ignore my trip into deminsia, and it's spelling as well.
Laura R. - 16 Jun 2004 23:56 GMT
circa Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:31:51 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Goat Roper (xxxxx@sssss.fffff) said,
> OH crap!, I posted this to the wrong posting.  I think I am the one that is
> beginning to suffer.
>
> PLEASE ignore my trip into deminsia, and it's spelling as well.

Well, at least I don't think you're one heckuva callous character
now. ;-)

Laura
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~*Connie*~ - 17 Jun 2004 14:59 GMT
If you have ruled out medical reasons why she's going outside the box, do
what I did, designate an area that is "ok" for her to do it, and buy puppy
training pads, put those down to absorb the urine, and deal.    My elder cat
is diabetic, and despite numerous attempts and trips to the vet, she prefers
to pee next to the box.  so we accommodate her.

> Hi all,
>
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> thanks for any suggestions,
> HBG
Sherry - 17 Jun 2004 16:11 GMT
>If you have ruled out medical reasons why she's going outside the box, do
>what I did, designate an area that is "ok" for her to do it, and buy puppy
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>> thanks for any suggestions,
>> HBG

Been there, and doing that for at least 10 years. IMO there's nothing wrong
with accommodating a cat like you're suggesting--everybody's happy, and I'm
grateful he doesn't just whiz on the carpet. But you know, I never considered,
never even thought of puppy pads. We have a drawer in the bathroom full of old
worn-out "Yoda's pee towels". I just put a new one down & wash the old one
every day.

Sherry
Cheryl - 18 Jun 2004 01:28 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav",
Jun 2004:

>  We have a drawer in the bathroom full of old
> worn-out "Yoda's pee towels". I just put a new one down & wash
> the old one every day.

:)  That's still accommodating him, and loads cheaper. lol

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Sherry - 18 Jun 2004 04:27 GMT
>>  We have a drawer in the bathroom full of old
>> worn-out "Yoda's pee towels". I just put a new one down & wash
>> the old one every day.
>
>:)  That's still accommodating him, and loads cheaper. lol

Doggone that cat. He started this at about 9 months old. It was before I had
him neutered. We took him to the vet, no problems. Had him neutered, he didn't
stop. He'd whiz on any towel left in the floor. The sensible solution would be
to NOT ever leave towels lying around. But then he'd just whiz on the bathroom
rug. He doesn't have a thing wrong with him. He just *likes* to pee on towels.
He's been doing it for more than a decade now. Like I said, he's never peed on
the carpet in his life, and at least that's a good thing.

Sherry
Cheryl - 19 Jun 2004 00:24 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav",
Jun 2004:

> Doggone that cat. He started this at about 9 months old. It was
> before I had him neutered. We took him to the vet, no problems.
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> Like I said, he's never peed on the carpet in his life, and at
> least that's a good thing.

I think that you're doing what you can, and (using the word again)
accomodating him and keeping things from getting out of hand. If
you were to take away the towels that he basically has created a
habit out of using, you'd be miserable trying to re-train him. If
the towels are the only thing he pees on, rather than squatting
everywhere around the house, I'd do what you're doing. Seems gross
and people without cats wouldn't understand but you're not trying
to impress anyone. Only giving a wonderful companion a good life
for the time he is with you. I know you love him. If you had a
child who couldn't become "potty trained" and you had to clean up
after them all the time, keep spare sheets ready every night, and
getting angry doesn't help the situation *at all*, you'd do it.  
I'd do it. :)

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Sherry - 19 Jun 2004 02:17 GMT
>I think that you're doing what you can, and (using the word again)
>accomodating him and keeping things from getting out of hand. If
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>getting angry doesn't help the situation *at all*, you'd do it.  
>I'd do it. :)

Of course, and after 11 years or so, it's routine. The silver lining is, nobody
leaves their towels, robes, clothes, anything in the bathroom floor. Nobody.
Ever.

Sherry
Laura R. - 19 Jun 2004 02:39 GMT
circa 19 Jun 2004 01:17:33 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry
(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said,
> Of course, and after 11 years or so, it's routine. The silver lining is, nobody
> leaves their towels, robes, clothes, anything in the bathroom floor. Nobody.
> Ever.

Well, not twice, anyway. ;-)

Laura
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Karen Chuplis - 19 Jun 2004 05:26 GMT
>> I think that you're doing what you can, and (using the word again)
>> accomodating him and keeping things from getting out of hand. If
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>
> Sherry

And just you *try* accomplishing that in any other household! Sometimes I
just can't believe how dense the ....er.... male populace of a household can
be about that.
 
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