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Old cat question. Chronic renal failure and epilepsy

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Maj. Richard H. Blount (OHMR Ret.) - 17 Jun 2004 14:49 GMT
Good Morning,

I couldn¹t find an answer easily on the internet, and found this group. I
hope someone here may have experienced this.

My Cat 'Eloise' is/was a beautiful tortoiseshell tabby and is just now 18
years old. She has been suffering from chronic renal failure for about the
past year and has lost a good amount of weight. Her appetite is good and she
hasn't had any 'accidents' about the house.

This morning she called me down to breakfast as usual. As I was preparing
her food, she went into a grand mal seizure or so it appeared to me. Rigid
and twitching, lost bladder control and excessive salivation. This is the
first time I have observed this. She emerged from the seizure confused and
still a bit twitchy, but went for her food right away, which I feel is
encouraging. She has since been very needing of attention and cries when she
can't see me or one of the pride. (Mommy or Boy). I imagine it's because of
the trauma she just endured.

Is there a linkage between the two conditions? I believe so long as her
appetite is good and she stays as hydrated as she can there is no need to
put her down, but now with the seizure thing in the mix, I don¹t know.

Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks,
Rich
~*Connie*~ - 17 Jun 2004 15:07 GMT
there may, or may not be a connection.  A trip to the vet would make a
definite diagnosis
Good luck
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Goat Roper - 17 Jun 2004 16:00 GMT
Rich, I thought I was the only one that had a cat that was susceptable to
seisures.  One of my girls (now about 8 years old) will go into a violent
seisure if you put her in one of those portable pet cages.  The vet said she
might be clostraphobic, but she had no further diagnosis.  It hasn't hapened
for years, but then we haven't put her in a cage for years either.

When this happens she does not lose control of her bodily functions, but
slobbers a good deal while and after it happens.  She is also confused
afterwords and doesn't even seem to recognize her liter mate sister for a
half hour or so.

I thought I was pretty much alone with this problem.

Be aware of the curcumstances at the time this happens if it ever happens
again.  There may be something that triggers this that you will have control
over.

That's my two cents.

Allen
PawsForThought - 17 Jun 2004 18:20 GMT
>From: "Maj. Richard H. Blount (OHMR Ret.)" majorrich@adelphia.net

>Is there a linkage between the two conditions? I believe so long as her
>appetite is good and she stays as hydrated as she can there is no need to
>put her down, but now with the seizure thing in the mix, I don¹t know.

I would recommend a vet visit.  Also, a very good website is www.felinecrf.org

I lost my 17 year old cat to CRF but she never had seizures from it.

Best of luck to you and hugs to your kitty,

Lauren
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Gail - 17 Jun 2004 19:01 GMT
Definitely have her see a vet and ask him or her this question.
GAil
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Laura R. - 18 Jun 2004 06:50 GMT
circa Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:49:27 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Maj. Richard H. Blount (OHMR Ret.) (majorrich@adelphia.net) said,

> Is there a linkage between the two conditions? I believe so long as her
> appetite is good and she stays as hydrated as she can there is no need to
> put her down, but now with the seizure thing in the mix, I don?t know.

As far as I know, it is not common for a CRF cat to experience
seizures. I do think that a vet visit is in order, and I don't think
I'd be looking to euthanize because of one incident. See what your
veterinarian has to say.

Laura
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MacCandace - 21 Jun 2004 04:12 GMT
According to Helen's website, mentioned in another post, www.felinecrf.org:

Seizures
Potassium levels in CRF cats are often too low, but if they become elevated,
which may happen as the CRF progresses, heart problems can arise, and short
seizures may also occur, especially in end stage renal failure.  Seizures can
also be a sign of high blood pressure or of calcium imbalances.

I would call the vet.  Maybe Eloise needs blood work.

Candace
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 21 Jun 2004 06:54 GMT
Candace wrote:
>I would call the vet. Maybe Eloise needs
>blood work.

I second what Candace says and hope the OP reads the info she posted.
Seizures in a cat with CRF can mean several things and are probably
being caused by something related to the CRF, so it is imperative to get
the cat in for bloodwork ASAP. I also must stress that the cats blood
pressure MUST be checked as well.
Megan

                                   
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