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Can't keep cats from scratching at bedroom door

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Preston Crawford - 16 Jun 2004 14:48 GMT
I can't hear it. Or, at least it isn't waking me up. But it's waking my
wife up every night 4 or 5 times. They scratch and scratch and scratch.
We've been trying the vacuum cleaner thing and that doesn't work. They
still come back and scratch. If we're desparate for sleep we give them
some food, but now they're coming back in spite of either of those things.
We're at a loss for what to do. All it is is that they want to be in the
room with us. Or, at least, a couple of them do. And we can't have that,
because then they'd dance on our heads. What can we do? We got the vacuum
cleaner thing off of here. That didn't work. What now? I was thinking
maybe putting carpeting or something on the door so they couldn't scratch.

Thoughts?

Preston
Sunflower - 16 Jun 2004 15:13 GMT
> I can't hear it. Or, at least it isn't waking me up. But it's waking my
> wife up every night 4 or 5 times. They scratch and scratch and scratch.
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>
> Preston

Let them in to sleep with you.  That's all they want. (Assuming you leave a
little dry food down so they can free feed when they want a snack.)  And, if
they want to play or do other than sleep, keep a water pistol at each night
table.  They'll soon either settle down and snuggle or go away and play
elsewhere.   It's taken a while, but all of mine have learned "Do Not
Disturb" when we're under the covers.  I still have one who doesn't want to
play, doesn't want to snuggle, doesn't want to wake us up.  He just wants to
stand there on the edge of the bed and watch us sleep, and knead and drool.
Who knows?  If it wasn't for the wet spot some mornings from the drool,
you'd never know he'd been there.
Preston Crawford - 16 Jun 2004 15:24 GMT
>> I can't hear it. Or, at least it isn't waking me up. But it's waking my
>> wife up every night 4 or 5 times. They scratch and scratch and scratch.
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> Who knows?  If it wasn't for the wet spot some mornings from the drool,
> you'd never know he'd been there.

I wouldn't mind, but I guarantee they'd be in our face every couple hours
looking for food. And, once again, it doesn't wake me up. But I'm sure it
disturbs my sleep in subtle ways since it wakes my wife up.

Preston
Gail - 16 Jun 2004 16:52 GMT
Do you keep food out so that they can eat during the night (like the other
poster mentioned)??
Gail

> >> I can't hear it. Or, at least it isn't waking me up. But it's waking my
> >> wife up every night 4 or 5 times. They scratch and scratch and scratch.
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>
> Preston
Preston Crawford - 16 Jun 2004 17:07 GMT
> Do you keep food out so that they can eat during the night (like the other
> poster mentioned)??

The problem is that the girl cat that does all the scratching doesn't care
about food. She just wants to be with us or doesn't like closed doors or
something. The other cats that scratch now and then like the food and will
leave us alone if we feed them, but at a certain point we're then
overfeeding them.

Preston
Laura R. - 16 Jun 2004 19:07 GMT
circa Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:07:19 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Preston Crawford (me@prestoncrawford.com) said,
> > Do you keep food out so that they can eat during the night (like the other
> > poster mentioned)??
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> leave us alone if we feed them, but at a certain point we're then
> overfeeding them.

Let them sleep with you and leave a little kibble out. It's the only
solution that makes sense, IMO.

Laura
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Mary - 16 Jun 2004 20:02 GMT
"Preston Crawford" <me@prestoncrawford.com> wrote >
> The problem is that the girl cat that does all the scratching doesn't care
> about food. She just wants to be with us or doesn't like closed doors or
> something.

Why can't she be with you?
DevilsPGD - 16 Jun 2004 22:08 GMT
>> The problem is that the girl cat that does all the scratching doesn't care
>> about food. She just wants to be with us or doesn't like closed doors or
>> something.
>
>Why can't she be with you?

I've run into this myself... In our case, my girlfriend is slightly
allergic.  If we let the cats come in, they'll curl up and eventually
end up laying on her neck or face, and she'll be swollen and thoroughly
unpleasent the next morning.

She's had cats before and it was never a problem, and she's okay to
cuddle them and play with them as long as they don't touch her neck or
face, and as long as she doesn't get scratched.

Luckily we've got three cats and two kids, and I often work nights (I
work from home and can pet a cat while I'm working) so whoever wants to
be with a human at the time can usually find one.  It's only a problem
when the kids are away for the weekend and I decide to go to bed.

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Cheryl - 17 Jun 2004 03:28 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", Preston
Crawford <me@prestoncrawford.com> artfully composed this message
within <news:slrncd0s1h.aff.me@serpentor.cobrala> on 16 Jun 2004:

> The problem is that the girl cat that does all the scratching
> doesn't care about food. She just wants to be with us or doesn't
> like closed doors or something. The other cats that scratch now
> and then like the food and will leave us alone if we feed them,
> but at a certain point we're then overfeeding them.

I wish I could tell you how my cats are trained, because the door is
open all night and I'll get either two cats sleeping with me but not
waking me, or the third will sleep with me and the others don't. None
of them try to wake me unless it is past the normal waking up time
(kitty alarm clocks).  I didn't *train* them. Wish I could offer some
help.  lol

None of them have food left out all night.

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Ellie Pea - 16 Jun 2004 18:31 GMT
>>> I can't hear it. Or, at least it isn't waking me up. But it's waking my
>>> wife up every night 4 or 5 times. They scratch and scratch and scratch.
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>
>Preston

Don't feed them when they bother you for food in the night. If you do,
you will never get ouf of this vicious circle.  They are not daft you
know :o)

Try feeding them a proper meal before you go to bed. They will soon
get the hang of it.  I've been in your situation and found this works
for me and my cat.
RobZip - 16 Jun 2004 19:41 GMT
> Don't feed them when they bother you for food in the night. If you do,
> you will never get ouf of this vicious circle.  They are not daft you
> know :o)

Yup, once they establish a routine it becomes something they will do just to
assure themselves that all parts of their world are in the proper place at
the proper time. That includes making as much disturbance as needed to
determine that you are in your bed sleeping when you're supposed to be.
Mary - 16 Jun 2004 16:38 GMT
> I can't hear it. Or, at least it isn't waking me up.

Open the bedroom door.
Preston Crawford - 16 Jun 2004 17:07 GMT
>> I can't hear it. Or, at least it isn't waking me up.
>
> Open the bedroom door.

And then they dance on our head at 3am. Doesn't solve anything.

Preston
hpickering@austin.rr.com - 16 Jun 2004 17:31 GMT
>>> I can't hear it. Or, at least it isn't waking me up.
>>
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>
>Preston
This will only last a couple of days.
They will soon settle down and find comfortable spots to sleep.
Nothing better than furry hot water bottles in the winter.
They will get used to bedtime, etc.
My $0.02
Mary - 16 Jun 2004 20:04 GMT
"Preston Crawford" <me@prestoncrawford.com> wrote >
> And then they dance on our head at 3am. Doesn't solve anything.

Oh. Sorry. I've always let my cats sleep with me and they never have
disturbed me. One last suggestion: get a BIG HEPA filter and place it
between you and the closed door. And confine the cats to the
farthest-away-possible room overnight with their food and toys and things.
Good luck.
Goat Roper - 16 Jun 2004 19:16 GMT
My cats just plain do not like to be kept away from my wife or I, especially
my wife.  They won't scratch at anything, but you close the bedroom door and
they will sit outside the door and howl.  Open the door and they may or may
not get into bed.  They do have some dry food left out for them to graze on,
and they pick on it pretty much all night long or at least until it is all
gone but a couple of pieces.  They have trained us pretty well.
Barb - 17 Jun 2004 02:33 GMT
Let them in.  That's all they want.  They won't dance on your heads all
night.  They just want to find a little spot for themselves and they will
curl up and go to sleep.  They will adjust their hours to yours.

--
Barb
Of course I don't look busy,
I did it right the first time.
Tracy - 17 Jun 2004 18:48 GMT
I'm an advocate of leaving some kibble out at night. It doesn't have
to be a vast quantity of it, just enough for a nibble. Given the
opportunity, my cats will apprach the kible bowl and soberly chomp
about 6 bits of kibble and retreat. They just want a snack sometimes.
Don't we all :>

If the behavior you want to discourage is dancing on your head, then
yes a squirt bottle is effective. I also use a time out - remove cat
and place in confined area for five minutes or so every time they do
this and eventually they will realize that waking you up in the middle
of night makes you mad and leads to bad things.

If you really want them to sleep in another room, then make sure that
room has beds, blankets or cubbies for them that are comfortable, and
their toys and comfort items, and pick them up when they scratch and
gently place them in their sleeping area each time. If they continue
to scratch, then try a time out. It may take some time, but if you do
this consistently, they will come to understand not to disturb you. I
would recommend leaving them some kibble, though. Also make sure the
sleeping room has a good scratch post for them.
 
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