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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2010Should I spank my cat?
Should I spank my cat if he urinates inside, or is there a better method to make him urinate outside? He's an adult cat that use to go outside to urinate. He has a cat flap so that he can go outside. Regards Brian Your cat is urinating inside because he has a problem - bladder infection, etc. Take him to the doctor. This is his way of telling you he is sick. Spanking does nothing but make the cat fearful of you. I totally agree with Buddy's Mom. Your cat has a urinary infection. You should get the cat a kitty litter pan for inside. He might use it if he is peeing on the carpet now. My cat does not like to do his business in the house. He carries on like a maniac before he goes in the pan and then when he is done he scratches the litter around for ages. He'd rather do it outside but its too cold for him to go out right now. Take you cat to the doctor. > Your cat is urinating inside because he has a problem - bladder > infection, etc. Take him to the doctor. This is his way of telling > you he is sick. Spanking does nothing but make the cat fearful of > you. > Should I spank my cat if he urinates inside, or is there a better > method to make him urinate outside? He's an adult cat that use to go > outside to urinate. He has a cat flap so that he can go outside. > > Regards Brian One word: NO. It's counterproductive in both cats and dogs, but especially in cats. You'll accomplish nothing. First, take him to the vet to rule out anything physical. If he's always gone outside before, then it's most likely he's got an infection. Second, consider adding a litter pan inside, if you don't have one already. If he's an older cat, it may be difficult for him to go outside all the time (if it's raining, for example). Regardless of why he's doing it, spanking him is pointless. > Should I spank my cat if he urinates inside, or is there a better > method to make him urinate outside? He's an adult cat that use to go > outside to urinate. He has a cat flap so that he can go outside. No. Spank yourself, then try to figure out what's wrong with your cat. > Should I spank my cat if he urinates inside, or is there a better > method to make him urinate outside? He's an adult cat that use to go > outside to urinate. He has a cat flap so that he can go outside. > > Regards Brian Please don't ever spank your cat. He wont understand "after the fact." Have the vet check him to see if he has some health issues. Also, if it's bitter cold and the earth is frozen, some cats would rather use their litter pans.  Signature"They can not ask for kindness, or for mercy plead. Yet cruel is our blindness, which does not see their need. World-over, town or city, God trusts us with this task; To give our love and pity to those who can not ask." -- Unknown -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Should I spank my cat if he urinates inside, or is there a better >> method to make him urinate outside? He's an adult cat that use to go [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >the vet check him to see if he has some health issues. Also, if it's bitter >cold and the earth is frozen, some cats would rather use their litter pans. Yes, that's after the fact. I swatted Espy on his behind the other night when he was playing the blinds like a xylophone. And I keep them fairly high up so he has to stretch to reach them. I love that cat dearly but sometimes he's a bit too smart. He wanted me to get up and give him treats. But if I swatted his behind a minute later he would have no idea why I did it. It really has to be in the act. I would never hit him hard enough to hurt him no matter what he did. >>> Should I spank my cat if he urinates inside, or is there a better >>> method to make him urinate outside? He's an adult cat that use to go [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >did it. It really has to be in the act. I would never hit him hard >enough to hurt him no matter what he did. If he starts biteing me he gets a tap on the nose. Regards Brian > If he starts biteing me he gets a tap on the nose. You can blow in his face. That will usually stop the play-nipping. Or yelp like a hurt puppy. It stops my girls instantly. Signature"No other disease or condition of companion animals takes as many lives as euthanasia. In fact, no other disease comes close." -- Janet M. Scarlett, DVM, Ph.D, Cornell University -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ =^..^= ~~~ > But if I swatted his behind a minute later he would have no idea why I > did it. It really has to be in the act. I would never hit him hard > enough to hurt him no matter what he did. We found the spray bottle works wonders with our two kitties. They no longer go on the expensive sofa or the dining room table. We don't have blinds in the house. We do have blinds in our RV, but so far so good. They've not bothered them. Signature"They can not ask for kindness, or for mercy plead. Yet cruel is our blindness, which does not see their need. World-over, town or city, God trusts us with this task; To give our love and pity to those who can not ask." -- Unknown -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> But if I swatted his behind a minute later he would have no idea why I >> did it. It really has to be in the act. I would never hit him hard [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >blinds in the house. We do have blinds in our RV, but so far so good. >They've not bothered them. He has been playing the blinds once in a while for the last few weeks. A new trick. I did bring in a big water gun from the garage and kept it loaded and pumped up by the side of the bed but decided that I didn't want to risk a groggy night shot that might hit the stereo nearby. Maybe if I practice with it a bit I'll get better. But it lets out a pretty big stream of water. I think I need one of the old little manual types of watergun. >>> But if I swatted his behind a minute later he would have no idea why I >>> did it. It really has to be in the act. I would never hit him hard [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > out a pretty big stream of water. I think I need one of the old little > manual types of watergun. IMHO a spray would be better than a stream. You can find them in cleaning items at the grocery store. MLB >>>> But if I swatted his behind a minute later he would have no idea why I >>>> did it. It really has to be in the act. I would never hit him hard [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >IMHO a spray would be better than a stream. You can find them in >cleaning items at the grocery store. MLB But then I have to get up and out of bed. I was kind of hoping to just get a shot off while he's making night music, to convince him that it's a bad idea. This could hopefully be done without becoming fully awake or having to get out from under the covers. Plus, he won't need to know that it came from me! >>>>> But if I swatted his behind a minute later he would have no idea why I >>>>> did it. It really has to be in the act. I would never hit him hard [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >awake or having to get out from under the covers. Plus, he won't need >to know that it came from me! My cat use to scatch at the carpet in the bedroom in the middle of the night, one night when he was doing it I threw something soft at him. I think it was a newspaper that was screwed up in a ball, the sound of the newspaper landing near him frightened the cat and he never did that again. Regards Brian > But then I have to get up and out of bed. I was kind of hoping to just > get a shot off while he's making night music, to convince him that > it's a bad idea. This could hopefully be done without becoming fully > awake or having to get out from under the covers. Plus, he won't need > to know that it came from me! I had a water pistol that shot 20 feet (I am not kidding) and used it on my first cat when she jumped up where I did not want her to. I didn't want to have to keep getting up. She didn't like it at all. I could tell by the way I found she had peed in my bed that night. The only time after that I tried water as an aversive was last week when I was washing dishes and the kitten once more, for the 400th time that day, climbed up on the kitchen table. I turned around and flicked water on her from my wet hands. She hunkered down in the middle of the table and looked at me like, "what else you got?" She finds the dripping faucet several times a day and comes out with a soaking wet head. She loves water. >> But then I have to get up and out of bed. I was kind of hoping to just >> get a shot off while he's making night music, to convince him that [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > at me like, "what else you got?" She finds the dripping faucet several > times a day and comes out with a soaking wet head. She loves water. Not surprising. Here in Oregon, most cats love water too. they won't jump in it, but they love to sit out in the pouring rain, and come back in the house sopping wet. In California, where I lived for 40 years, no self respecting cat would allow him/her self to get wet. No matter how hard it was raining, they would stay dry. But one of the first things I learned when I retired and moved up here to Oregon was that the cats liked the rain. When I moved in to my house up here, it came with a cat, and she would sit out in the rain on a sawed off tree stump that was in my back yard, and just get soaked......I think they use the rain to de-flea themselves. > He has been playing the blinds once in a while for the last few weeks. > A new trick. I did bring in a big water gun from the garage and kept [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > out a pretty big stream of water. I think I need one of the old little > manual types of watergun. I have those cheap plastic spray bottles from Wal*Mart. They spray a nice stream but not enough to harm my furniture. Signature"No other disease or condition of companion animals takes as many lives as euthanasia. In fact, no other disease comes close." -- Janet M. Scarlett, DVM, Ph.D, Cornell University -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ =^..^= ~~~ Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote: > Should I spank my cat if he urinates inside, or is there a > better method to make him urinate outside? He's an adult cat > that use to go outside to urinate. He has a cat flap so that he > can go outside. Direct confrontation with a cat should be avoided if possible. Hitting a cat can cause behavioral problems. Unsupervised, cats can be cruel to other animals, but they are surprisingly emotional creatures. Cats enjoy a comfortable and tidy place to urinate/defecate. About the only way you can stop a cat from doing what it wants to do is by blocking it. >> Should I spank my cat if he urinates inside, or is there a >> better method to make him urinate outside? He's an adult cat [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > urinate/defecate. About the only way you can stop a cat from doing > what it wants to do is by blocking it. I keep a small pillow handy, and when one of my cats does something I don't like, I yell at it and throw the pillow at it....This frightens the cat, and he/she learns not to do whatever it was that I don't like......This is the only discipline method I have done that has ever worked...But it only works if you do it immediately, at the time the cat is doing whatever is wrong. When two of my cats are hissing at each other, I do this to stop them from fighting, and it has sped up the process of getting them to get along with each other....It also has worked when they scratch on furniture or objects that I don't want them to deface.....Like the side of my instrument amplifier, for example. Cats don't like noise, and they don't like things thrown at them. When I first got B-K from the Burger King parking lot, he would run when I put on my coat in the morning. I could tell that patrons of the Burger King would shake their coats at him and yell to make him go away. It took a while to get him to realize that I wasn't trying to scare him away when I got dressed in the morning. >>> Should I spank my cat if he urinates inside, or is there a >>> better method to make him urinate outside? He's an adult cat [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >It took a while to get him to realize that I wasn't trying to scare him away >when I got dressed in the morning. I get the feeling that cats are smarter than they look and they only act dumb to get their own way with their owners. Somethings it's the cat training it's owner rather than the owner training the cat. I did managed to train my cat to go outside when I wanted him to do outside by firmly saying the word "Out" and pointing my finger to the back door. Regards Brian > I keep a small pillow handy, and when one of my cats does something > I don't like, I yell at it and throw the pillow at it..This > frightens the cat, and he/she learns not to do whatever it was > that I don't like..This is the only discipline method I have done > that has ever worked...But it only works if you do it immediately, > at the time the cat is doing whatever is wrong. If it isn't done immediately, the cat simply won't understand what he/she is punished for. To stop my cat from doing what's not allowed to, we used a pulverizer. When he was doing a forbidden thing such as biting foam rubber, scratching the couch, etc, he was pulverized immediately (with fresh&clean water, of course). In most cases it did work. > I get the feeling that cats are smarter than they look and they > only act dumb to get their own way with their owners. Somethings > it's the cat training it's owner rather than the owner training > the cat. As if! A lot of cat owners have spotted this. Try reading this story from a cat's point of view (especially the second part of it). In fact I wrote something like that too a while back, and I do think it's a big question who trains whom. Cheers! -------------------------------------------------------------- "A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere." - Groucho Marx Ruslana: http://mysmelly.com/user/hvn/profile.htm -------------------------------------------------------------- >> I keep a small pillow handy, and when one of my cats does something >> I don't like, I yell at it and throw the pillow at it..This [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > -------------------------------------------------------------- Pulverize means to grind up into dust -- did you really mean that? If so, shame on you. MLB >>> I keep a small pillow handy, and when one of my cats does something >>> I don't like, I yell at it and throw the pillow at it..This [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Pulverize means to grind up into dust -- did you really > mean that? If so, shame on you. MLB This is a smiley-friendly newsgroup, a.shole. >>>> I keep a small pillow handy, and when one of my cats does something >>>> I don't like, I yell at it and throw the pillow at it..This [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > This is a smiley-friendly newsgroup, a.shole. My brother! > Pulverize means to grind up into dust did you really mean that? If > so, shame on you. MLB Pulverize also means to spray, and this is what I actually meant. I think you do know that. ;) -------------------------------------------------------------- "A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere." - Groucho Marx Ruslana: http://mysmelly.com/user/hvn/profile.htm -------------------------------------------------------------- >> Pulverize means to grind up into dust did you really mean that? If >> so, shame on you. MLB > Pulverize also means to spray, and this is what I actually meant. I > think you do know that. ;) Actually, Ruslana, he doesn't. It is only us from Eastern Europe who use "pulverizer" to mean "aerosol sprayer". In English, it only applies to solids. In any event, he should have indicated by a smiley, that he didn't really believe you were pulverizing your kitties. :) >>> Pulverize means to grind up into dust did you really mean that? If >>> so, shame on you. MLB [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to solids. In any event, he should have indicated by a smiley, that he > didn't really believe you were pulverizing your kitties. :) You are so right! FYI I am not a "he" I am an old great grandmother and I do not have any smilies on my computer and I don't know how to get them. Best wishes. MLB >>>> Pulverize means to grind up into dust did you really mean that? If >>>> so, shame on you. MLB [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > do not have any smilies on my computer and I don't know how to get them. > Best wishes. MLB colon followed by close parenthesis :) or, colon followed by open parenthesis if you are unhappy about something :( I do not have any smilies on my computer and I don't know how to get > them. Best wishes. MLB First, you hit the colon key once : Then, you hit the little up arrow that's above the 6 ^ Then, you hit the right hand parenthesis key ) When you put them all together, you get....:^) > I do not have any smilies on my computer and I don't know how to get >> them. Best wishes. MLB [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > When you put them all together, you get....:^) That is cute! :^) MLB > I do not have any smilies on my computer and I don't know how to get >> them. Best wishes. MLB [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > When you put them all together, you get....:^) That's true. However, since MLB uses Thunderbird, she'll be able to see the other smileys as real smileys (that is, graphics). The one you give is OK, but it is not recognizable by Thunderbird as smiley, and all she'll see is the original sequence of : and ^ and ). Whereas, the sequence : and ), or : and - and ) will be replaced and she will see the yellow smileys :) and :-) . >>>> Pulverize means to grind up into dust did you really mean that? If >>>> so, shame on you. MLB [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > do not have any smilies on my computer and I don't know how to get them. > Best wishes. MLB I love Usenet. >>>>> Pulverize means to grind up into dust did you really mean that? If >>>>> so, shame on you. MLB [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I love Usenet. It gives us lots of information we need to know and a lot we really don't need. LOL. Best wishes. MLB >>>>>> Pulverize means to grind up into dust did you really mean that? If >>>>>> so, shame on you. MLB [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > It gives us lots of information we need to know and a lot we really don't > need. LOL. Best wishes. MLB I thought Ruslana was a blatant troll, advocating cat crushing. I am not kidding. :) > Actually, Ruslana, he doesn't. It is only us from Eastern Europe > who use "pulverizer" to mean "aerosol sprayer". In English, it > only applies to solids. Oh, then I must confess I didn't know that. English is not my native language so I can easily make mistakes like that. Sorry for confusion, hehe. ;) -------------------------------------------------------------- "A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere." - Groucho Marx Ruslana: http://mysmelly.com/user/hvn/profile.htm -------------------------------------------------------------- >> Actually, Ruslana, he doesn't. It is only us from Eastern Europe >> who use "pulverizer" to mean "aerosol sprayer". In English, it [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ruslana: http://mysmelly.com/user/hvn/profile.htm I think I speak for all of us when I say that I am very pleased that you do not crush your cat as a form of discipline. >> Pulverize means to grind up into dust did you really mean that? If >> so, shame on you. MLB [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -------------------------------------------------------------- IMHO the word is atomized= spray. I am sure this is what you meant. Best wishes. MLB > I keep a small pillow handy, and when one of my cats does something > I don't like, I yell at it and throw the pillow at it..This > frightens the cat, and he/she learns not to do whatever it was > that I don't like..This is the only discipline method I have done > that has ever worked...But it only works if you do it immediately, > at the time the cat is doing whatever is wrong. If it isn't done immediately, the cat simply won't understand what he/she is punished for. To stop my cat from doing what's not allowed to, we used a pulverizer. When he was doing a forbidden thing such as biting foam rubber, scratching the couch, etc, he was pulverized immediately (with fresh&clean water, of course). In most cases it did work. > I get the feeling that cats are smarter than they look and they > only act dumb to get their own way with their owners. Somethings > it's the cat training it's owner rather than the owner training > the cat. As if! A lot of cat owners have spotted this. Try reading this story from a cat's point of view (especially the second part of it). In fact I wrote something like that too a while back, and I do think it's a big question who trains whom. Cheers! -------------------------------------------------------------- "A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere." - Groucho Marx Ruslana: http://mysmelly.com/user/hvn/profile.htm -------------------------------------------------------------- |
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