Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2004
Go away, Enemy Cat!
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Kate Orman - 11 Jun 2004 08:20 GMT I have two desexed adult male indoor-only cats. At night, a neighbourhood cat visits our house and lurks in the front yard, often sitting on the doorstep. This completely freaks out my pair, with lots of banging and crashing as they jump up on things to try to get a view of the other fellow, meowing, growling, ridiculous barking noises, and generally waking us up. We rent, or I'd just build a fence or something to keep the Enemy Cat out. Is there some harmless way I can scare the intruder off?
Thanks for any advice! - Kate
kaeli - 11 Jun 2004 14:17 GMT > I have two desexed adult male indoor-only cats. At night, a > neighbourhood cat visits our house and lurks in the front yard, often [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > something to keep the Enemy Cat out. Is there some harmless way I can > scare the intruder off? Motion detector activated sprinklers, if you can afford it. They're not overly expensive, really. Under $100 generally. They work pretty well for racoons and possums, too.
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dgk - 11 Jun 2004 15:34 GMT >I have two desexed adult male indoor-only cats. At night, a >neighbourhood cat visits our house and lurks in the front yard, often [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Thanks for any advice! >- Kate Cats don't like citrus smells. You can try spraying some citrus stuff around for a while until it gets the hint.
Laurie - 11 Jun 2004 17:04 GMT > Cats don't like citrus smells. You can try spraying some citrus stuff > around for a while until it gets the hint. I've always heard this too, so a few weeks ago I totally cracked up when I saw citrus cented cat litter for sale at PETsMART! What are they thinking? :) -- Laurie --
Kate Orman - 15 Jun 2004 13:17 GMT > Cats don't like citrus smells. You can try spraying some citrus stuff > around for a while until it gets the hint. Everyone - thanks heaps for your advice! I've been spraying Orange Power around the doorstep, and I think it's having some effect - at least Enemy Cat isn't coming quite as close as before. Appreciate the help!
Cheers, - Kate
gertrude - 13 Jun 2004 04:46 GMT > I have two desexed adult male indoor-only cats. At night, a > neighbourhood cat visits our house and lurks in the front yard, often [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > something to keep the Enemy Cat out. Is there some harmless way I can > scare the intruder off? Either let your cats outside to drive him away, or leave food for the intruder to quiet him down.
J. Marz - 13 Jun 2004 19:39 GMT > > I have two desexed adult male indoor-only cats. At night, a > > neighbourhood cat visits our house and lurks in the front yard, often [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Either let your cats outside to drive him away, or leave food for the > intruder to quiet him down. You forgot the part about picking it up by the scruff of the neck and bashing its brains out against a rock wall.
Magic Mood Jeep? - 13 Jun 2004 20:35 GMT Gertrude, some people do not live on a remote KY farm, as you've stated you do in another thread, they live in highly populated areas where cats are at risk of getting run over, tortured by miscreants, and mauled by stray dogs and/or cats - maybe that's why he why he keeps his cats indoor. That's the reason I keep mine indoors.
Kate, I hope you DO NOT follow 'gertrudes' advice. I myself know of no good solution to get the visiting cat to leave (aside from trapping it and taking it to the local shelter), but I know 'gertrudes' suggestions are NOT the answer.
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> > I have two desexed adult male indoor-only cats. At night, a > > neighbourhood cat visits our house and lurks in the front yard, often [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Either let your cats outside to drive him away, or leave food for the > intruder to quiet him down. Tracy - 14 Jun 2004 04:59 GMT I always find that if I simply go outside for a moment than a visiting cat will usually run away, unless we've gotten to know each other. Why not go outside and just shoo the cat away? It will eventually find other places to go without shooing humans. It probably just sees your cats through the window and is curious about them.
Mary - 14 Jun 2004 05:11 GMT > I always find that if I simply go outside for a moment than a visiting > cat will usually run away, unless we've gotten to know each other. Why > not go outside and just shoo the cat away? This is great. What happens when you aren't home, your cats are outside, and some diseased and/or aggressive cat pursues your cats? The answer is, they are on their own. Jackass.
treblig@NOSPAMix.netcom.com - 14 Jun 2004 18:57 GMT >> I always find that if I simply go outside for a moment than a >> visiting cat will usually run away, unless we've gotten to know each [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > outside, and some diseased and/or aggressive cat pursues your cats? > The answer is, they are on their own. Jackass. Unless I'm missing something, "Tracy" wasn't suggesting letting the cats outside.
Laura R. - 14 Jun 2004 19:16 GMT circa Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:57:44 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, treblig@NOSPAMix.netcom.com (treblig@NOSPAMix.netcom.com) said,
> Unless I'm missing something, "Tracy" wasn't suggesting letting the cats > outside. You missed something. Different thread.
Laura
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Gilbert Chew - 14 Jun 2004 19:24 GMT > circa Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:57:44 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > treblig@NOSPAMix.netcom.com (treblig@NOSPAMix.netcom.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Laura Oh. OK. Never mind.
Mary - 14 Jun 2004 19:38 GMT > > circa Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:57:44 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > > treblig@NOSPAMix.netcom.com (treblig@NOSPAMix.netcom.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Oh. OK. Never mind. Tracy lives in a busy urban area in the US and leaves her cats outside on their own all day (no cat flap of course) and believes that she is not endangering their lives. So I wondered what her cats are doing outside alone when a threatening cat approaches and Tracy is not there to "shoo" him.
Tracy - 14 Jun 2004 23:58 GMT > Tracy lives in a busy urban area in the US and leaves her cats outside on > their own all day (no cat flap of course) and believes that she is not > endangering their lives. So I wondered what her cats are doing outside alone > when a threatening cat approaches and Tracy is not there to "shoo" him. Nope. Tracy lives one a very quiet street with bungalows and very little traffic with an elaborately constructed window entrance with a stairwell (that we built) that the cats use to enter and exit the house when neither of us is home. Tracy's cats are also extremenly well-socialized and have established friendly relations within a day or two with ALL of the eight cats (the other indoor-outdoor cats on the block) who have EVER approached their yard in the year that they've been indoor-outdoor cats.
Since they're not outside after dark, they don't have any contact with any other cats, who if they are present, would hunt in the nighttime.
If this theoretical situation ever occurred in the middle of the day and no one was home, they would go inside the house, which they are free to do whenever they want.
If you're going to criticize, try to get the facts right.
Mary - 14 Jun 2004 19:25 GMT > >> I always find that if I simply go outside for a moment than a > >> visiting cat will usually run away, unless we've gotten to know each [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Unless I'm missing something, "Tracy" wasn't suggesting letting the cats > outside. You're missing something.
Tracy - 14 Jun 2004 20:56 GMT > This is great. What happens when you aren't home, your cats are outside, and > some diseased and/or aggressive cat pursues your cats? The answer is, they > are on their own. Jackass. What does this have to do with the OP?
For the OP, it works fine. Her cats are inside, this cat is outside. Go outside and shoo it away.
Don't you think it's a tad more sane to fight with me on the thread where that conversation is occurring rather than all over the place willy-nilly?
For my cats, they would go inside the house or hide under the porch. They have lots of places to go where they can't be pursued.
Do you have a lot of diseased or aggressive cats where you live?
We have lots of visitors and know them all. There hasn't been a scary cat yet. The latest addition to the neighborhood is a big fluffy orange friendly cat who lives behind us two houses to the north. He's adorable :
Kate Orman - 15 Jun 2004 13:25 GMT > > I always find that if I simply go outside for a moment than a visiting > > cat will usually run away, unless we've gotten to know each other. Why > > not go outside and just shoo the cat away?
> This is great. What happens when you aren't home, your cats are > outside, and some diseased and/or aggressive cat pursues your > cats? The answer is, they are on their own. Jackass. As I said, they're indoor cats. I guess if I'm not home they could call the police or something. :-)
Cheers, - Kate
Mary - 15 Jun 2004 17:27 GMT > As I said, they're indoor cats. I guess if I'm not home they could > call the police or something. :-) Kate, dahling, I was talking to Tracy the Every-Cat-For-Itself idiot who, in answering your post, admits that there are actually aggressive cats roaming the area where her poor kitties are put out every morning and not let in until evening. I was wondering who might be there in her neighborhood to "shoo" away the aggressive cat while she is at work all day.
Kate Orman - 15 Jun 2004 13:21 GMT > Why not go outside and just shoo the cat away? Because I sleep naked. :-)
Cheers, - Kate Orman
icarus - 15 Jun 2004 14:20 GMT > > Why not go outside and just shoo the cat away? > > Because I sleep naked. :-) > > Cheers, > - Kate Orman where do you live ??? can I come and watch ???
Mary - 15 Jun 2004 17:28 GMT > > twrl2001@yahoo.com (Tracy) wrote in message > news:<77b975cf.0406131959.6bdbf7ea@posting.google.com>... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > where do you live ??? can I come and watch ??? What, you need lessons?
Tracy - 15 Jun 2004 20:42 GMT > > twrl2001@yahoo.com (Tracy) wrote in message > news:<77b975cf.0406131959.6bdbf7ea@posting.google.com>... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheers, > > - Kate Orman I don't think there's much you can do, but haul yourself up, throw on that bathrobe and shoo the cat away for a while. Surely it's worth it for happy, naked nights in the future :>
The good news is that it probably won't take too many shoos. Mine are indoors at night, and for a few days last month, they were getting midnight visits at the window from an orange, fluffy cat who had just moved in a few doors away and befriended them during the day. Of course, his meows at the window induced much activity from the kitties who thought it was a wonderful idea to go out and play RIGHT NOW. So I did have to do some shooing, which I hated to do because he's such a sweetie. (He kinda missed the point and insisted on rolling over a for a belly rub when I came out, but eventually figured out that I wanted him to leave). After three nights, he figured it out and now only comes to visit during the day.
It's a short-term sacrifice ....
Kate Orman - 16 Jun 2004 08:34 GMT > I don't think there's much you can do, but haul yourself up, throw on > that bathrobe and shoo the cat away for a while. Surely it's worth it > for happy, naked nights in the future :> *grin* Alas, many weeks of shoo-ings haven't really got the message across. (Great story about your fluffy orange visitor btw.)
I have scared off the visitor with the squirt bottle a couple of times, but the difficulty becomes opening the door enough to take aim without letting my boys out! Frank got out once, pursued his foe under the house next door, and would not come out for love nor kibble. I'm so glad our neighbours neither heard nor saw the half-naked crazy people crouched down the side of their house in the middle of the night, rattling Nutrience in a bowl and stage whispering to their cat.
:-) Cheers, - Kate Orman
Laura R. - 15 Jun 2004 21:05 GMT circa Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:20:34 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, icarus (icarus@cold.com) said,
> > > Why not go outside and just shoo the cat away? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > where do you live ??? can I come and watch ??? The police tend to frown on that.
Laura
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icarus - 16 Jun 2004 02:09 GMT > circa Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:20:34 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > icarus (icarus@cold.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Laura wow, a sense of humour :))))) this thread looks like a range war and Sadam isn't in sight !
Mary - 16 Jun 2004 02:32 GMT > > circa Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:20:34 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > > icarus (icarus@cold.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > wow, a sense of humour :))))) this thread looks like a range war and Sadam > isn't in sight ! Oh, please, Iccy. :)
Laura R. - 16 Jun 2004 05:53 GMT circa Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:09:08 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, icarus (icarus@cold.com) said,
> > > > > Why not go outside and just shoo the cat away? > > > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > wow, a sense of humour :))))) this thread looks like a range war and Sadam > isn't in sight ! We're messy in here, but we're usually relatively easygoing.
Well, sometimes.
A little.
Okay, never mind...
Laura
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Mary - 15 Jun 2004 17:25 GMT > > Why not go outside and just shoo the cat away? > > Because I sleep naked. :-) So, you're thinking that might not scare him even more? ;)
J. Marz - 16 Jun 2004 15:50 GMT > > twrl2001@yahoo.com (Tracy) wrote in message > news:<77b975cf.0406131959.6bdbf7ea@posting.google.com>... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > So, you're thinking that might not scare him even more? > ;) I'm sure the sight of *your* black a.s naked would scare the devil herself.
J. Marz - 16 Jun 2004 15:51 GMT > > twrl2001@yahoo.com (Tracy) wrote in message > news:<77b975cf.0406131959.6bdbf7ea@posting.google.com>... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > So, you're thinking that might not scare him even more? > ;) I'm sure the sight of *your* black a.s naked would scare the devil herself.
Laura R. - 15 Jun 2004 21:04 GMT circa 15 Jun 2004 05:21:18 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Kate Orman (korman@spamcop.net) said,
> > Why not go outside and just shoo the cat away? > > Because I sleep naked. :-) Well, that might scare the cat away in and of itself... ;-)
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Laura
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Kate Orman - 15 Jun 2004 13:23 GMT > > I have two desexed adult male indoor-only cats. At night, a > > neighbourhood cat visits our house and lurks in the front yard, often [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > something to keep the Enemy Cat out. Is there some harmless way > > I can scare the intruder off?
> Either let your cats outside to drive him away, I'm hoping to sleep through the night (and wake up without injured kitties! :-)
> or leave food for the intruder to quiet him down. S/he is totally silent. It's my boys who make all the racket - surely leaving food for the tourist would only encourage visits?
Cheers, - Kate Orman
Adam Helberg - 14 Jun 2004 21:21 GMT > I have two desexed adult male indoor-only cats. At night, a > neighbourhood cat visits our house and lurks in the front yard, often [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks for any advice! > - Kate Does not sound like an "enemy" cat, just a cat curious about the indoor prisoners.
Adam
Kate Orman - 16 Jun 2004 08:29 GMT > > I have two desexed adult male indoor-only cats. At night, a > > neighbourhood cat visits our house and lurks in the front yard, often [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > something to keep the Enemy Cat out. Is there some harmless > > way I can scare the intruder off?
> Does not sound like an "enemy" cat, *grin* We nicknamed the visitor "Enemy Cat" because of the boys' outraged reactions to this interloper. :-)
> just a cat curious about the indoor prisoners. The boys are both very happy indoor-only kitties. Although Frank does enjoy a walk around the garden on his doggie harness; I wonder if taking him out more often might leave his scent around and dissuade our uninvited guest?
Cheers, - Kate Orman
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