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rolf - 09 Jun 2004 00:18 GMT
Hi. Last December we adopted Callie, a three year old female DSH from the
local animal services people. She had been in their care for about three
months. The vet said she was healthy and she certainly seems to be to us.

Until now, we have never noticed any skin flakes (looks like dandruff) while
petting or brushing her. We like to brush her every few days with  a soft
hair brush whether she needs it or not and she likes it too. Lately we have
begun to see what looks like dead skin flakes in her fur as we pet or brush
her. The temperature is warmer now and she is definitely shedding more. Is
this flaking normal or should we be doing something to help alleviate this?
She is not in any discomfort that we can see.

Food is dry only, she just sniffs at wet, at least the last time we tried it
with her. She gets a 50/50 mix of Science Diet (currently Adult Light) and
Nutro Natural Choice Complete Care Adult.

TIA for any thoughts on this one.

Rolf.

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WumpyGirl - 09 Jun 2004 04:10 GMT
> Hi. Last December we adopted Callie, a three year old female DSH from the
> local animal services people. She had been in their care for about three
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>
> Rolf.

Why not pick up the phone, call your vet and pop the question?
rolf - 09 Jun 2004 20:57 GMT
> > Hi. Last December we adopted Callie, a three year old female DSH from the
> > local animal services people. She had been in their care for about three
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>
> Why not pick up the phone, call your vet and pop the question?

Good point WumpyGirl! A little more background will clear it up I think. I
should have included this information in my OP, but didn't want to make it
too long.

Callie is our third cat. Suzzie was our first and was with us for 15 years.
She exhibited the same slightly flaky skin that Callie is showing now. Over
the years I had asked two different vets about it and they both showed
minimal concern. Suzzie was healthy and happy and the vets thought it was a
non-issue.

At this point I am mainly interested in any advice I can get from all you
experienced cat people about this. There is a wealth of information here as
I found out when I started to read this group when Suzzie got sick late last
year.

Rolf.

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WumpyGirl - 10 Jun 2004 00:34 GMT
> > > Hi. Last December we adopted Callie, a three year old female DSH from
> the
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>
> Rolf.

The problem could be diet related. Perhaps she's not getting enough fatty
acids. You could try adding a small amount of sunflower or flax seed oil to
her diet. 1/4 of a teaspoon per day.
Laura R. - 10 Jun 2004 01:35 GMT
circa Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:34:27 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
WumpyGirl (WumpyGirl@y--a--h--o--o.c--o--m) said,

> The problem could be diet related. Perhaps she's not getting enough fatty
> acids. You could try adding a small amount of sunflower or flax seed oil to
> her diet. 1/4 of a teaspoon per day.

For cats with kidney problems, however, flax seed oil is
contraindicated, IIRC. I know I read something about it somewhere,
but I'll be darned if I can remember what it was that was bad about
giving it to cats with CRF.

Anyway, I know this doesn't apply here since the cat in question is a
kitten, but I thought I'd mention it. :-)

Laura
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WumpyGirl - 10 Jun 2004 02:52 GMT
> circa Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:34:27 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> WumpyGirl (WumpyGirl@y--a--h--o--o.c--o--m) said,
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>
> Laura

Definitely worthy of mention as well as the omega-3 fish oil suggestion you
posted as well.

The OP might also want to look into the ingredients of the food that's being
offered. After reading the ingredients in Science Diet Adult, I'd consider
ditching that one and try something else. Something that contains more meat
than vegetation, seeing as cats are carnivores and all. Perhaps something
like Wellness Super5Mix Adult?
Cheryl - 10 Jun 2004 04:13 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "WumpyGirl"
Jun 2004:

> Perhaps something
> like Wellness Super5Mix Adult?

There is flax in that too. I feed my former feral a 50-50 mix of SD
Sensitive Skin and Wellness Super5Mix Adult Lite. (both dry, she
won't eat canned).  It did nothing to help during the winter but now
that it isn't as dry (humidity) she is flake-free but still keeping
on the pounds she gained from just the SD SS alone. Rather than any
skin-type treatment foods I'd rather give her a supplement but I
can't pill her.  She's incredibly healthy on this diet but it's hard
to keep her on it because she tends to graze. If her food is left
out, Shadow will find it even if I vary with where I leave it and I
can't feed her in the kitchen.  I've been giving in too much with
Shadow and dry food but he is so f'n picky and I'd rather he eat
something and I don't want to make his time left a battle of foods.
He loves the SD dry foods but it really f'ks with his tummy.

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GAUBSTER2 - 10 Jun 2004 15:16 GMT
>From: "WumpyGirl" WumpyGirl@y--a--h--o--o.c--o--m

>The OP might also want to look into the ingredients of the food that's being
>offered. After reading the ingredients in Science Diet Adult, I'd consider
>ditching that one and try something else. Something that contains more meat
>than vegetation, seeing as cats are carnivores and all. Perhaps something
>like Wellness Super5Mix Adult?

You're going to be let astray if the only thing you are concerned about is the
label on a bag.  You should be more concerned with nutrient levels.  Nutro and
Wellness are both extremely high in calcium and phosphorus when compared with
Science Diet.  As for the fatty acid suggestion put forth earlier, Science Diet
has very, very high levels of Omega Fatty Acids, not to mention the highest
levels of antioxidants of any pet food on the market.  Again, playing "the
ingredient game" is not the same as looking at actual nutrition.  Nutrition is
something a lot of pet owners profess to be concerned with, but are then fooled
by pet food companies who are selling "the ingredient game" on their labels.
Coyote200 - 16 Jun 2004 07:31 GMT
can cats get hot spots?My friend has a cat with what looks like a skin
abrasion.She has'nt taken him to a vet yet,but the spot is small & i may dog
had something similar looking a year ago
Ellie Pea - 09 Jun 2004 08:21 GMT
>Hi. Last December we adopted Callie, a three year old female DSH from the
>local animal services people. She had been in their care for about three
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>
>Rolf.

If you are concerned speak to your vet.
My kitty sometimes has this and yes, it looks exactly like dandruff.
I've asked the vet about it in the past but he seems unconcerned as
she is healthy and her skin is fine.  He was of the opinion that this
often occurs when cats are mainly indoors due to central heating and I
do think I see it more in her fur in the winter.

What sort of fur does you cat have? I wondered if it's more noticable
on my cat as she has very thick medium length fur which seems to shed
all year round!

Lindsey
rolf - 09 Jun 2004 21:24 GMT
> >Hi. Last December we adopted Callie, a three year old female DSH from the
> >local animal services people. She had been in their care for about three
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>
> If you are concerned speak to your vet.

Good point! I have already answered the same statement from WumpyGirl. In
doing that I included some more information that I should have put into my
first post. Here is what I typed:

<Callie is our third cat. Suzzie was our first and was with us for 15 years.
She exhibited the same slightly flaky skin that Callie is showing now. Over
the years I had asked two different vets about it and they both showed
minimal concern. Suzzie was healthy and happy and the vets thought it was a
non-issue.

At this point I am mainly interested in any advice I can get from all you
experienced cat people about this. There is a wealth of information here as
I found out when I started to read this group when Suzzie got sick last
year.>

> My kitty sometimes has this and yes, it looks exactly like dandruff.
> I've asked the vet about it in the past but he seems unconcerned as
> she is healthy and her skin is fine.  He was of the opinion that this
> often occurs when cats are mainly indoors due to central heating and I
> do think I see it more in her fur in the winter.

Just like my past experience with the vet. Your experience is a bit
different from mine though in that you seem to see it more in the winter and
we are just starting to see it now in the summer when the humidity is
higher. Of course Callie has only been with us since December.

You know, I really don't care about anything but Callie's happiness. If this
is something that does not bother her I will be perfectly OK with it. Just
thought I would get some opinions here before ignoring it like the vets
thought was appropriate with Suzzie.

> What sort of fur does you cat have? I wondered if it's more noticable
> on my cat as she has very thick medium length fur which seems to shed
> all year round!

Well, Suzzie's fur was longer than Callie's is, like the length I think of
when you describe your cat. I consider Suzzie's to be medium and Callie's to
be short. Suzzie had flakes all the time after about her fifth year and
Callie is just starting now.

Rolf.

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Laura R. - 10 Jun 2004 01:18 GMT
circa Wed, 9 Jun 2004 16:24:53 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
rolf (rolf3i@sympatico.garbage.ca) said,
> > My kitty sometimes has this and yes, it looks exactly like dandruff.
> > I've asked the vet about it in the past but he seems unconcerned as
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> thought I would get some opinions here before ignoring it like the vets
> thought was appropriate with Suzzie.

Okay, here's my two cents on the matter...

I've seen this in my cats in the past. However, since I switched them
to a mostly canned diet instead of a mostly dry diet, I've not seen
it in any of them. Does your cat eat wet food, or dry? Have you tried
adding a little omega-3 fish oil to her food?

Laura
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rolf - 10 Jun 2004 23:01 GMT
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> Okay, here's my two cents on the matter...
>
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>
> Laura

Thanks Laura and everyone else who responded to my post.

Callie has been on a dry only diet consisting of a 50/50 mix of Science Diet
(currently Adult Light) and Nutro Natural Choice Complete Care Adult. When
we first adopted her she would not eat wet food and we have not tried to
switch her since. I do not worry about it too much as she does drink quite a
bit a water every day. I mix foods because I think it can only help the
overall nutrition picture. I mean, every cat food made claims to be a
complete food, yet they are all different. My theory is that mixing two
different 'complete' foods can only be better than feeding one.

I have just searched for and read quite a few pages on omega-3 fish oil
supplements and am pretty sure that is what I will try with Callie. She is 3
1/2 years old, no renal problems or any other health issues. I will probably
start with only part of the recommended dose, give it time and see how it
goes.

Rolf.

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Laura R. - 10 Jun 2004 23:46 GMT
circa Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:01:55 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
rolf (rolf3i@sympatico.garbage.ca) said,

> I have just searched for and read quite a few pages on omega-3 fish oil
> supplements and am pretty sure that is what I will try with Callie. She is 3
> 1/2 years old, no renal problems or any other health issues. I will probably
> start with only part of the recommended dose, give it time and see how it
> goes.

Please let us know if it helps.

Laura
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