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Rick Vigorous - 04 Jun 2004 14:47 GMT
I've adopted a three-month-old DSH/Siamese mix kitten from the local
shelter.  Everything is going well, and she's getting along swimmingly
with my two other cats.

She weighed in at four pounds at the vet, but to look at her she seems
smaller.  She's in no danger of being overweight, which I suppose is
typical for most shelter cats.

She's basically eating everything that's not nailed down.  I feed her
three and a half 5.5 oz. cans of Nutro chicken and rice a day, which is
about a full can ahead of their recommended serving.  She eats in in six
or seven servings over the course of a day.  If I'm not timely with
feeding her, she filches from the boys' dry food; otherwise, she shows a
stunning indifference to dry, and has basically refused three different
dry kitten foods I've tried.

She had a bout of mild diarrhea when she first came home, but a worm
test and smear at the vet confirmed she doesn't have any parasites or
other intestinal afflictions.

Should I just let her eat what she wants?  Aside from wanting only
canned food, she's not finicky at all: if Nutro made a wallboard and
spackle flavor, I'd bet she'd eat it.  No barfing or other gastric
distress, just a very healthy appetite.  When she eats, she usually
cleans her plate, but doesn't rush or gulp, so I really doubt she's
eating out of fear it will be taken away.  She does leave some food from
time to time, just not much nor often.  At some point, do I need to
start cutting her off?

I got one of my other cats as a kitten at about the same age, but he
liked dry food, and stayed pretty close to the recommended serving, so
my experience is limited.
Gail - 04 Jun 2004 15:09 GMT
This is not unusualy for a stray cat adopted from the shelter. I would feed
many small feedings daily. I would not worry about over feeding her. My one
year old cat (stray) did the same thing. He is beautiful now with silky coat
and not over weight at all.
Gail
> I've adopted a three-month-old DSH/Siamese mix kitten from the local
> shelter.  Everything is going well, and she's getting along swimmingly
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> liked dry food, and stayed pretty close to the recommended serving, so
> my experience is limited.
Tracy - 04 Jun 2004 20:52 GMT
Don't worry about it. She's a baby, she's growing, and she probably
never before was in a position to eat as much wet food as she wanted
too :>

My recent adoptee was a not-quite two year old long-haired tuxedo who
had been abandoned and was living with a feral colony when a
kindhearted TNR'r noticed that she wasn't actually a feral cat and
persuaded a "no-ferals" no kill shelter to take her. She too, was
voracious for quite a while, and obsessed with wet food, which was
presented to her 2x a day, an occasion which caused her to circle my
feet, and cry out excitedly as the plate was lowered to the ground.

It's been eight months and she is now about 1/2 wet food and 1/2 dry
food and despite her scarfing in the early months, she's a healthy
10.1 lbs. She still loves receiving her wet food though.

I'm not sure they ever fully get over the shelter experience. Even if
she doesn't eat it, I think she's eternally grateful to recive it. She
acts like having a plate of her own wet food everyday is the most
amazing thing she's ever seen :
Mary - 04 Jun 2004 16:21 GMT
> I've adopted a three-month-old DSH/Siamese mix kitten from the local
> shelter.  ...

Bless you for adopting her. We want pictures! :')

I agree with Gail, I'd let her eat what she wants, just watch her portions
so that she doesn't gorge and get sick. She is adjusting to you and to her
new home, you could send worse messages than "there is enough to eat and you
don't have to fight over it." My skinny shelter girl also ate a lot, but
settled down. She is full grown and has never weighed more than 8 pounds.
Keep us posted!
Rick Vigorous - 04 Jun 2004 22:04 GMT
> Bless you for adopting her. We want pictures! :')

Navigate to http://www.z28racer.net/ava for a modest collection.
Mary - 04 Jun 2004 23:29 GMT
> > Bless you for adopting her. We want pictures! :')
>
> Navigate to http://www.z28racer.net/ava for a modest collection.

OMG!! What a sweet little face! I love black and white cats. She is a
beauty, and she looks so relieved to be there and so happy! Good job, and
thanks for sharing.
Rick Vigorous - 05 Jun 2004 02:06 GMT
"Mary" <rosefan@email.com> wrote in news:OI6wc.14630$2o2.775191
@twister.southeast.rr.com:

> OMG!! What a sweet little face! I love black and white cats. She is a
> beauty, and she looks so relieved to be there and so happy! Good job, and
> thanks for sharing.

I don't mean to brag, but would you believe she's only been home for six
days?  If you look at http://www.z28racer.net/multicat, you can see that my
"boys" Jack and Rizzo are taken with her already.
Mary - 05 Jun 2004 02:35 GMT
> "Mary" <rosefan@email.com> wrote in news:OI6wc.14630$2o2.775191
.

> I don't mean to brag

This is the place to brag! She's wonderful.

> but would you believe she's only been home for six
> days?

Wow, that is something. You have really made her feel safe.

If you look at http://www.z28racer.net/multicat, you can see that my
> "boys" Jack and Rizzo are taken with her already.

I wish every introduction went this easy. How did you introduce them?
Rick Vigorous - 05 Jun 2004 16:49 GMT
"Mary" <rosefan@email.com> wrote in news:yr9wc.14003$tH1.395865
@twister.southeast.rr.com:

> I wish every introduction went this easy. How did you introduce them?

I brought her in the house in her carrier, and said "hey boys, look what
I've got!"  Jack and Rizzo ran over, excited at seeing a new kitty.  I let
her out, and the boys sniffed at her for a while.  She, overwhelmed by two
giant kitties, growled and hissed for a while.  I think she mistook Rizzo's
puffy tail for aggressiveness, so she gave him more of a hard time.  Jack
is pretty much unflappable.  Within a few hours, there was detente.  By the
next day, there was playing.  After two days, there was mutual grooming and
affection.  For the first five days, I kept her in her own room at night,
both because I didn't want her to get into trouble in an unfamiliar house
in the dark, and I wanted her to be very close to a litterbox, as she still
had diarrhea.  She's over both now, so she's chosen to sleep on my pillow.

Jack and Rizzo are very friendly and outgoing, and very secure.  They
didn't feel threatened by the new kitty, so I have to give most of the
credit to them.
Mary - 05 Jun 2004 18:33 GMT
> "Mary" <rosefan@email.com> wrote in news:yr9wc.14003$tH1.395865
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
>
> > I wish every introduction went this easy. How did you introduce them?
>
> I brought her in the house in her carrier, and said "hey >boys, look what
I've got!"  [...] Within a few hours, >there was detente.  By the  next day,
there was playing.  >After two days, there was mutual grooming and
>affection.  [...] Jack and Rizzo are very friendly and >outgoing, and very
secure.  They didn't feel threatened >by the new kitty,  so I have to give
most of the  credit to >them.

Well, clearly you have great boy cats, and have made them feel very safe and
happy and loved. Kudos to you! I think in a way cats can mirror our own
personalities. Mine tend to be neurotic (;>p). I wonder, too, if part of the
smooth introduction has to do with her being a kitten and them being adults;
and them being boys and her being a little girl. They might just catch that
female scent and think "hmmm, future babe, wonder if she'd let us bathe
her." :')

In any case I am really happy for you and your cats. What a great family!
m. L. Briggs - 05 Jun 2004 00:53 GMT
>> Bless you for adopting her. We want pictures! :')
>
>Navigate to http://www.z28racer.net/ava for a modest collection.
I ;pved the pix where she is standing on her hind feet looking out at
the world.
Jess Knoch - 05 Jun 2004 14:35 GMT
>> Bless you for adopting her. We want pictures! :')
>
> Navigate to http://www.z28racer.net/ava for a modest collection.

She is ADORABLE. She looks great, too. As far as how much food goes, keep on
feeding as much as she is eating. "Watch the cat, not the dish." If she
starts to get pudgy then you can gradually back it down. But a little extra
wouldn't hurt her, and it might not even be extra at this point. And it's
really fantastic that you are able to break it down into 6 or 7 feedings a
day -- very good work.

I also *love* the other pictures with the other cat. The bigger black one is
so cute!!

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Rick Vigorous - 05 Jun 2004 16:54 GMT
> I also *love* the other pictures with the other cat. The bigger black
> one is so cute!!

I have two other cats.  The one in most of the pictures is Rizzo, who is a
very furry Maine Coon mix.  The one that looks just like Ava is Jack, who's
Siamese in everything but coloring.
Laura R. - 07 Jun 2004 04:32 GMT
circa Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:04:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Rick Vigorous (rick@normanbombardini.hairloaf) said,
> Navigate to http://www.z28racer.net/ava for a modest collection.

That is one cute little kitten. :-)

Laura
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kaeli - 04 Jun 2004 16:38 GMT
> Should I just let her eat what she wants?  Aside from wanting only
> canned food, she's not finicky at all:

I'd let her eat however much she wants unless she starts getting pudgie.

Canned food is generally better for cats than dry (more moisture, better
urinary health), so go ahead and go with it.

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Barb - 04 Jun 2004 16:57 GMT
I'd just give her whatever she wants.

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Yngver - 04 Jun 2004 17:01 GMT
>At some point, do I need to
>start cutting her off?

My own opinion is to give kittens as much as they want to eat. They need lots
of calories and their tummies don't hold all that much at each meal anyway, so
they need to eat frequently. The time to start cutting down is once she is
close to adult (at least nine months old and with the Siamese in her, I'd say
more like a year) and starts getting pudgy. But again, with the Siamese genes
she may be one of those cats that can eat all they want and never gets fat,
even as an adult. We have one like that.
PawsForThought - 04 Jun 2004 18:16 GMT
>From: Rick Vigorous rick@normanbombardini.hairloaf

>I've adopted a three-month-old DSH/Siamese mix kitten from the local
>shelter.  Everything is going well, and she's getting along swimmingly
>with my two other cats.

Congrats! :)

>Should I just let her eat what she wants?  Aside from wanting only
>canned food, she's not finicky at all: if Nutro made a wallboard and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>liked dry food, and stayed pretty close to the recommended serving, so
>my experience is limited.

I think it's great that she likes canned food so much.  Canned food is actually
healthier and more species appropriate than dry cereal/kibble.  She is still
very young and growing so she needs more food than an adult.  I would let her
eat as she wants, but I would also not free feed her, but rather feed her at
set times.  Kittens should preferably be fed 3 times a day but if you can't, 2
times a day is fine.  Free feeding can cause finickyness and also does not
allow the stomach to fully empty properly between meals.  One thing I would
recommend is feeding her a variety of foods, not just one brand and flavor.
That way if a company ever stops making a flavor, or the company goes out of
business, you won't be stuck with tying to find something your cat will eat.
Wellness Kitten, Petguard and Precise are other brands of food you might want
to try.

Lauren

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Ann - 05 Jun 2004 02:08 GMT
Just for the hell of it I'd have the stool rechecked for worms.  Your post
reminded me of a cat I adopted many years ago, who was taken to the vet
right away, she was living in an abandoned bldg in NYC and the fire
inspector/insurance guy took her and gave her to me cause he knew I liked
cats.  She turned out to be older than her size would have made you think
she was, but the vet saw her adult teeth and informed us.  The vet had to
give her a hysterectomy because her uterus was infected, and some other
operation, maybe a hernia or something, I don't remember, it was a LONG time
ago. Anyway she had worms and ATE a LOT too.
I didn't know about the worms,  I didn't know what that white thing hanging
out of her a.s was, then it moved, and AAACH , it was alive!!  This cat
latched on to me like a leech, man, I love my cats, and I am affectionate
and everything, but this cat obviously knew we saved its life/health and
wouldn't forget it.  I kind of wished she would just go on with her life,
but she was emotionally scarred or something.  Too sad.  That was a sad cat,
desperate little thing.
Now I'm sad thinking about it.
Ann

> I've adopted a three-month-old DSH/Siamese mix kitten from the local
> shelter.  Everything is going well, and she's getting along swimmingly
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> liked dry food, and stayed pretty close to the recommended serving, so
> my experience is limited.
Mary - 05 Jun 2004 02:39 GMT
>This cat latched on to me like a leech, man, I love my >cats, and I am
affectionate and everything, but this cat >obviously knew we saved its
life/health and wouldn't >forget it.  I kind of wished she would just go on
with her >life, but she was emotionally scarred or something.  Too >sad.
That was a sad cat,  desperate little thing.
> Now I'm sad thinking about it.
> Ann

Ann, she was certainly lucky that you rescued her but I don't understand
what is so sad about her being very affectionate with you. How exactly would
she "go on with her life?" Their lives are pretty much us, anyway,
especially if they are indoor. Your story made me feel happy. This is just
the sort of cat that makes rescue rewarding, I think. How long did she live?

> > I've adopted a three-month-old DSH/Siamese mix kitten from the local
> > shelter.  Everything is going well, and she's getting along swimmingly
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> > liked dry food, and stayed pretty close to the recommended serving, so
> > my experience is limited.
Ann - 06 Jun 2004 02:42 GMT
She was beyond affectionate, she actually clung to me.  When I say I wish
she could have just gone on with her life, I mean I wish she could have been
more secure and happy, instead she was insecure and seeking reassurance, as
in any relationship that can be draining after a while.
There was a constant sibling rivalry with my other kitten, if one was on my
stomach, the other would go to my chest, if one was on my chest, the other
would climb right up under my chin.  They would  slowly hopscotch up my body
to be the closest to my head.  My cat was stolen by a jilted boyfriend and I
dreamed about finding her for at least a year or maybe two.  I would wake up
thinking there she is, I can't believe she is right there in the garden, and
look closer and closer and then she was gone.  This is kind of bad memories
for me, I don't know why I'm dreging this up, I have two happy and healthy
cats right now, and my son LOVES them so very much and of course I do too.

I am going on with my life.
Ann
Mary - 06 Jun 2004 03:13 GMT
"Ann" <nospam @ noware.com> wrote:  My cat was stolen by a jilted boyfriend
and I
> dreamed about finding her for at least a year or maybe two.  I would wake up
> thinking there she is, I can't believe she is right there in the garden, and
> look closer and closer and then she was gone.

OMG, that really is horrible. Now I understand. These events and memories
are connected in your mind.

This is kind of bad memories
> for me, I don't know why I'm dreging this up

Lots of times it just helps to express it. Part of the purging process/

> I have two happy and healthy
> cats right now, and my son LOVES them so very much and of course I do too.

Wonderful.
 
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