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Aimee S - 03 Jun 2004 05:24 GMT
The kittens I brought in yesterday, ( their mother was hit by a car) are
not eating very much at all, I'm useing the same formula I used in Jan.
for 3 other three week old kittens. ( these kittens are also 3 weeks
old) I am feeding more often than normal to try to get more food in
them, but am concerned. The 2 females seem fine, but he little male
seems listless and stays by himself, plus he keeps purring. He just goes
in the corner of the box and purrs.. From doing this before I know this
is unusual. from my experince, they just yell to be fed or sleep. I gave
him some sub-q fluids today and some Nutrical. But no change. At 3 weeks
from what I"ve read they are only suppose to get 4 feedings a day, but
these guys are eating so little at a feeding, I fed them about 7 times
today.
They're box is very warm I keep hot water bottles in there..
Anyway, any thoughts and prayers would be helpful
Thanks so much,
Aimee
m. L. Briggs - 03 Jun 2004 06:38 GMT
>The kittens I brought in yesterday, ( their mother was hit by a car) are
>not eating very much at all, I'm useing the same formula I used in Jan.
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>Thanks so much,
>Aimee
We are sending soothing purrs to the kittens for their wellbeing .  I
am sure they are  missing their poor little mother.  Best of luck.
MLB
~*Connie*~ - 03 Jun 2004 13:29 GMT
best of luck to you.. it can be difficult.

Most of the stuff Ive read say it is better to feed more often, then risk
over feeding in one sitting.

Also, you mention the box is warm, does he have the ability to get off the
heat?  it is possible he's over heated..  Do you have any dewormer? That is
never a bad thing either.

sending positive thoughts his - and your -  way!

> The kittens I brought in yesterday, ( their mother was hit by a car) are
> not eating very much at all, I'm useing the same formula I used in Jan.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Thanks so much,
> Aimee
Laura R. - 03 Jun 2004 15:19 GMT
circa Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:29:14 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
~*Connie*~ (no@spam.com) said,
>  Do you have any dewormer? That is
> never a bad thing either.

For three-week-old kittens, it may very well be a bad thing.

Laura
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Wendy - 03 Jun 2004 21:25 GMT
> circa Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:29:14 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> ~*Connie*~ (no@spam.com) said,
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>
> Laura

My vet just told me that 3 wks was too young to worm them.

W
Laura R. - 04 Jun 2004 02:07 GMT
circa Thu, 3 Jun 2004 16:25:15 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Wendy (wendypart@nospam.com) said,
> > >  Do you have any dewormer? That is
> > > never a bad thing either.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> My vet just told me that 3 wks was too young to worm them.

I agree with your vet.

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Aimee S - 04 Jun 2004 14:55 GMT
Hi,

Thanks so much for all your help and advice. I did call the vet too.
The kittens are eating more now, which makes me very happy, even the
little male is eating well. I'm concerned about the one calico, she is
having some trouble walking, I mean she can move her back legs, but
doesn't have as much control as the others, I'm hoping she's just a bit
slower, I had a calico years ago, that just took longer to get walking
right.

Now if I can just get them to poop. lol, I've mixed some  pumpkin in
with they're formula, that has worked well for me in the past, so just
waiting.

Anyway, thanks again for ALL your help, it is very much appriecated.

Aimee
Laura R. - 04 Jun 2004 18:13 GMT
circa Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:55:24 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Aimee S (sedlock@webtv.net) said,
> Hi,
>
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>
> Anyway, thanks again for ALL your help, it is very much appriecated.

Aimee, at that age, I wouldn't expect much in the way of poop out of
them. :-)

Laura
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Sharon Talbert - 04 Jun 2004 20:17 GMT
Your little calico may have cerebellar hypoplasia.  Consult with the vet
on that.  I have a CH cat at home who is just about 9 years old, who can't
take a single normal step.  She's a great cat.

Let us know how the calico turns out.  If she is CH, I can refer you to a
mailing list that will be of great help to you.

Sharon Talbert
Friends of Campus Cats
sharon@campuscats.org

> Hi,
>
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>
> Aimee
Aimee S - 06 Jun 2004 05:18 GMT
Hi everyone,

I can't thank you all enough for all your thoughts advice and most of
all the prayers.
I did get the kittens to poop, last night and all looks normal. But the
one little calico does seem to have cerebellar hypoplasia (thanks Sharon
for telling me about that), I looked it up and she sure seems to have
it, poor baby. Of course, she's the cutiest of all of them.  Just gonna
be harder to find a good home for her. I already have 9 cats and a dog
so I have to find a home where they will understand her problem.. I am
going to take them to the vet as soon as they are old enough for a Felv
check and see what the vet says about her.
I do have a friend that "thinks" she wants to try the little calico with
the problem.

Again, can't thank you all enough for you support and prayers,

Love,   Aimee
Sherry - 06 Jun 2004 05:35 GMT
>Hi everyone,
>
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>
>Love,   Aimee

Good luck, Aimee. Poor little beggars. They wouldn't have had a chance without
you. Purrs to you that they grow up to be *healthy* and all get forever homes.
There's nothing cuter than a 4-week-old kitten. I think the most endearing
thing about them is the way they hold their little tails up straight, like
little sticks.

Sherry
Wendy - 05 Jun 2004 02:30 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Aimee

As I recall you said they were 3 wks. old. At that age they can be somewhat
wobbly. You're calico should be steadier on her pins in a week or so.

W
~*Connie*~ - 06 Jun 2004 02:13 GMT
> circa Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:29:14 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> ~*Connie*~ (no@spam.com) said,
> >  Do you have any dewormer? That is
> > never a bad thing either.
> >
> For three-week-old kittens, it may very well be a bad thing.

Its not, if they are not eating because they are having issues with
parasites, its in the kittens best interest to remove the parasites.  You
just need to make sure that you are using a dewormer that is safe for that
age, and there are some.
Laura R. - 06 Jun 2004 04:23 GMT
circa Sat, 5 Jun 2004 21:13:27 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
~*Connie*~ (no@spam.com) said,
> > >  Do you have any dewormer? That is
> > > never a bad thing either.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> just need to make sure that you are using a dewormer that is safe for that
> age, and there are some.

Maybe you should explain that to Wendy's veterinarian, who also says
that three weeks is too young for deworming.

Laura
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Sherry - 06 Jun 2004 04:53 GMT
>> >  Do you have any dewormer? That is
>> > never a bad thing either.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>just need to make sure that you are using a dewormer that is safe for that
>age, and there are some.

I'm not a vet, I don't work for a vet, and don't even play one on TV. But I
have had experience with orphans and this bothers me. The OP, as far as I can
tell, hasn't indicated any other symptoms that would indicate worms, no
diarrhea, bloody discharge, etc. Although I do agree the kittens probably *are*
wormy, since most of them are, I think giving an already-debilitated 3-week-old
kitten a dewormer simply on the basis that he is lethargic and not eating, is
dangerous advice. There are a myriad of maladies that can cause an infant
kitten to fade, and administering a dewormer without *stool examination* to
determine that is, in fact, causing the problem, is dangerous for a tiny one.
Sherry
Laura R. - 06 Jun 2004 05:03 GMT
circa 06 Jun 2004 03:53:28 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry
(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said,
> >> >  Do you have any dewormer? That is
> >> > never a bad thing either.
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> determine that is, in fact, causing the problem, is dangerous for a tiny one.
> Sherry

Bingo. Couldn't have said it better.

Laura
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soft - 04 Jun 2004 21:15 GMT
You have taken on quite a task - hows the output? Have you been doing
the cotton ball rubbing to make them go? Any nice vets nearby willing
to take a peek for next to nothing or free? Best of luck - I will send
out  prayers for you and the babies.

Karryl
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>>
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>> Thanks so much,
>> Aimee
Laura R. - 03 Jun 2004 15:20 GMT
circa Thu, 3 Jun 2004 00:24:36 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Aimee S (sedlock@webtv.net) said,

> The kittens I brought in yesterday, ( their mother was hit by a car) are
> not eating very much at all, I'm useing the same formula I used in Jan.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Thanks so much,
> Aimee

Aimee, have you called a veterinarian for advice? Does the little guy
respond to touch? How much is he eating? I know you said that they're
all not eating much, but I'm wondering how much he's eating, and how
resistant he is, if at all, to eating.

Laura
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Sharon Talbert - 03 Jun 2004 21:49 GMT
I also would be concerned, Aimee.  Time to make a visit to that vet.
Take the box along, if you can, so the vet can perhaps evaluate the foster
quarters.  What you may be hearing from the weakest kitten is wheezing
lungs, not purring.  Let us know how it comes out.

Sharon Talbert
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