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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2004Cat urinating, nothing works
Have an extreme situation here. I've already covered all the bases that I can think of. I have a Norwegan snow cat. A beautiful breed and just as nice as she can be. She's been neutered, and I've had her checked out at the vet's office. Clean bill of health. Thing is, we adopted her from another familiy because we realized later that she never urinates like other cats do, instead, she goes by standing on all fours, missing the box completely. So, to correct this problem, we bought a storage tote and used that for a litter box. Well, that solved that problem, for a while anyway. Now, it seems the smell has built up inside and she won't go in there anymore. Instead she's doing it on a wall right next to the box, and in the bathroom on the toilet. I've tried using soap and water, Oxi Clean, and other things like the Woolite and Resolve spray cleaners and nothing works. The tote box is a typical rubbermaid kind of box, and I'm using Fresh Step cat litter. Mind that she's not just marking territory inside the house. She's full out urinating here, and it's been going on for a while now. I'm fresh out of ideas here, and I'd really hate to give her up. Anyone else have some ideas? Maybe some surefire way to neutralize the oder in the pan? I'm changing the litter every week here. Also, she's an indoor cat, and she's the only cat in the house. I can't imagine she's be stressed. Thanks in advance. Get an enzyme cleaner made especially for cat urine. I have an elderly cat who is diabetic w/ a heart condition, and she pees outside the box too, despite giving her everything we can think of. We have found that if we put puppy training pads down on the floor where she likes to go, she usually urinates on those, making clean up much easier, and the smell doesn't get all in the house. You could also try increasing the size of her litter box. Lots of people use the kiddie pools that they sell at like walmart for kids to play in water during the summer. They make perfect litter boxes because the sides aren't too high. > Have an extreme situation here. I've already covered all the bases > that I can think of. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Thanks in advance. > Get an enzyme cleaner made especially for cat urine. I have. I've used Feliway, Nature's Miracle, Oxi Clean, Woolite, Resolve, nothing works. The smell still seems to linger in the box. > I have an elderly cat who is diabetic w/ a heart condition, and she pees > outside the box too, despite giving her everything we can think of. We have > found that if we put puppy training pads down on the floor where she likes > to go, she usually urinates on those, making clean up much easier, and the > smell doesn't get all in the house. Well, that's something to consider, but I don't think it'll work because she urinates standing up all the time. > You could also try increasing the size of her litter box. Lots of people > use the kiddie pools that they sell at like walmart for kids to play in > water during the summer. They make perfect litter boxes because the sides > aren't too high. Well, I'm kind of tight for space, and the tote box I have is already much larger than the cat is. She's used it before when I bought a new one until that one started holding the oder as well. I'd hate to have to keep buying new ones every two months or whatever. >> Get an enzyme cleaner made especially for cat urine. > >I have. I've used Feliway, Nature's Miracle, Oxi Clean, Woolite, >Resolve, nothing works. The smell still seems to linger in the box. If you're still talking about the litterbox itself: Wash the box and soak for a few minutes with bleach. Then sun-dry it. If it still smells like urine, you're either doing something wrong, or the box is so old and used the odor has permeated the plastic. In which case, it's time to throw it away. Buy the ten-dollar litterbox and throw it away after 2 months if you have to. Sherry > Well, I'm kind of tight for space, and the tote box I have is already > much larger than the cat is. She's used it before when I bought a new > one until that one started holding the oder as well. I'd hate to have > to keep buying new ones every two months or whatever. Suggestion: 1. Buy a new tote box 2. Put a disposable liner in the box (such as a largish plastic trash bag). If the cat likes scratching the liner, install multiple bags. 3. Change the liner every week (cheaper than buying a new box every week). circa 3 Jun 2004 00:43:15 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Thomas (tw958@yahoo.com) said, > Mind that she's not just marking territory inside the house. She's > full out urinating here, and it's been going on for a while now. I'm [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Also, she's an indoor cat, and she's the only cat in the house. I > can't imagine she's be stressed. I empty and scrub (with a scrub brush) mine (also Rubbermaid storage bins, like yours) with Pine-Sol and then rinse 'em thoroughly. Haven't had smell build-up, but if I did, I think I'd just go buy some new containers. :-) Laura  SignatureThe tendency of an event to occur varies inversely with one's preparation for it. -David Searles >circa 3 Jun 2004 00:43:15 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, >Thomas (tw958@yahoo.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Laura I do the same and never had a problem with oder - most people don't know there are cats here unless I tell them or one may poke its head out to see who is here - then they think I have 1. Karryl > Mind that she's not just marking territory inside the house. She's > full out urinating here, and it's been going on for a while now. I'm > fresh out of ideas here, and I'd really hate to give her up. Anyone > else have some ideas? Maybe some surefire way to neutralize the oder > in the pan? I'm changing the litter every week here. Why don't you just use disposable boxes? It sounds like she's just really sensitive to odor. I'm not sure where you live, but they're like $3 here and they come with litter in them. You can get them at the pet shop (petsmart, petco, and the like) and even in the large grocery chain stores (safeway, jewel, etc). Buy one a week. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Reading while sunbathing makes you well red. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace It's not a box. It's a storage tote. That's like, almost 3 feet high. She has to jump into it, and I HAVE TO do this because of the way she urinates. It's kinda hard to lug around a bunch of those things in my car and then throw them away. I will try the bleach thing though. That sounds like a good idea. circa 3 Jun 2004 19:02:31 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Thomas (tw958@yahoo.com) said, > I will try the bleach thing though. That sounds like a good idea. It isn't. Bleach + ammonia (from the cat's pee)= toxic gas (chloramine). Never use bleach to clean up anything containing ammonia and vice versa. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. circa 3 Jun 2004 19:02:31 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Thomas (tw958@yahoo.com) said, > I will try the bleach thing though. That sounds like a good idea. Re: my other response- I now see that you were referring to Sherry's advice to first wash the box, then bleach it. That's okay. Just don't pour bleach in there until after you've washed the box first. :-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > It's not a box. It's a storage tote. That's like, almost 3 feet high. > She has to jump into it, and I HAVE TO do this because of the way she > urinates. It's kinda hard to lug around a bunch of those things in my > car and then throw them away. > > I will try the bleach thing though. That sounds like a good idea. Perhaps she wouldn't pee like that if you used disposable boxes. Just a thought. I dunno. My cats are totally un-picky. heh Signature-- ~kaeli~ Local Area Network in Australia:... the LAN down under. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > It's not a box. It's a storage tote. That's like, almost 3 feet high. > She has to jump into it, and I HAVE TO do this because of the way she > urinates. It's kinda hard to lug around a bunch of those things in my > car and then throw them away. > > I will try the bleach thing though. That sounds like a good idea. I don't know if it will work for you, but here's something that worked for me. Rosie also tends to pee higher than the standard litter box height. So, I got a larger and higher box, but the top edge was just the height she'd pee. So I put it under the sink in our bathroom. (We leave the cupboard door open.) The drain trap from the sink is just the right place and height over the box to keep her (ahem) aim a little lower. Annie Maybe he doesn't like the litter? Karryl > Maybe he doesn't like the litter? Thought of changing it. Thought that Fresh Step would help keep the box clean, but it's got so much dust or something in it that always floats in the air. Anyone have any suggestions as to what else I should try? Maybe just a generic no-frills brand? > I don't know if it will work for you, but here's something that worked for > me. Rosie also tends to pee higher than the standard litter box height. > So, I got a larger and higher box, but the top edge was just the height > she'd pee. So I put it under the sink in our bathroom. (We leave the > cupboard door open.) The drain trap from the sink is just the right place > and height over the box to keep her (ahem) aim a little lower. Something to consider, but I'm not sure if I can swing that. Maybe if I rigged up something similar, hmm. I do have several things to consider now though. Bleach cleaning the box, and trying a new litter sounds best now, and for now I'll just get a new tote box and make sure I clean it out real good every week (ugh). The things we do for cats, eh? Thanks for the ideas all. Was out of new ones, myself. >> Maybe he doesn't like the litter? > >Thought of changing it. Thought that Fresh Step would help keep the >box clean, but it's got so much dust or something in it that always >floats in the air. Anyone have any suggestions as to what else I >should try? Maybe just a generic no-frills brand? I use the fresh step scoop - I really love it as far as oder control. And the pawpoint freebies. But that doesn't mean your cat will. I would get a few little pans and give the cat sever options from clay - pine shavings - etc and see what it goes for. I Know they can be very picky and this may solve the problem Karryl |
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