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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2004Home euthanasia
I don't even want to think about this but know I must prepare for the inevitable with my beloved cat, Pop. I think I can find a vet to do home euthanasia but wanted to know what happens with the body? Does the vet take it? I know it is probably the most difficult and sad decision one has to make no matter whether it is done in a vet's office or at home. But, I wonder if it is worse to do it at home because the last memory and vision of the cat is his lifeless body in the place where we had such a wonderful life together. When my dog was euthanized I took him to the vet's office. It was so difficult and I didn't want to stay in the room during the procedure because I didn't want to see him dead. I didn't want that to be the way I remembered him. When I read what I just wrote it sounds selfish. Believe me I am far from being selfish. I have only had Pop for one short and wonderful year. He came into my life with a huge "tumor" in his abdomen. The previous owners didn't want to spend money on "just a cat". Long story short, it wasn't a tumor but a kidney that had stopped functioning and had filled with fluid. That kidney weighed close to three pounds! Pop bounced back from surgery quickly, amazingly so, and has been healthy and happy for the past year. He just recently was diagnosed with a bladder tumor that is most likely transitional cell carcinoma. He also is in the beginning stage of CRF. He is on meds and sub-q fluids and is doing okay right now. I can't tell you how much I love this cat. Pop and I have a deep bond. On a side note, the first time I took him to the vet, when it was our turn they called his name and my last name. "Pop Marino". Well, that just stunned me for a moment because that was my (deceased) grandfather's name. Everyone, his kids, grandkids, friends, called him Pop Marino. Could it be? I think it could be him. No matter, he is truly loved. I have been blessed with a beautiful, loving cat and he is a joy in my life that I can't imagine living without. > I don't even want to think about this but know I must prepare for the > inevitable with my beloved cat, Pop. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I have been blessed with a beautiful, loving cat and he is a joy in my > life that I can't imagine living without. There are a lot of advantages to having euthanasia done in your own home. However -- whether done at home or at the vet's -- please reconsider the decision you made when your dog was euthanized. That is, please *stay with Pop* during the procedure. I have done this with each of my cats. It was a very difficult and painful experience, but I consider that to have been my last gift of love to my beloved companions. That is your only assurance that that Pop will be soothed and petted during his last moments and that he will not be frightened and left alone with strangers. Believe me, that is *not* what you will remember about Pop. As time goes by, you will be able to think more and more about all the good times you had with him -- and you will be grateful that you did not abandon him in his last moments of need. I understand what you are going through. A decision to have your wonderful pet euthanized is one of the most painful and searing experiences we face. In return, our pets give us trust and love and companionship. MaryL That is your only assurance > that that Pop will be soothed and petted during his last moments and that he > will not be frightened and left alone with strangers. Well said, MaryL. I am so sorry, Nightstar. It is a very difficult thing to face. We had to have our kitty put down, she was 17 1/2, a few years back. We had to stay in the room with her, could not let her face that alone (I still cry when I talk about her, our beloved Echo) After she was gone (which was incredibly peaceful for her) the vet gave us the info for burying her. Of course they could keep her, but we opted to have her buried in the pet cemetary. It was not expensive ($100) and we gladly had our precious girl laid to rest there. Purrs and scritches to you and Pop. Hailey > I don't even want to think about this but know I must prepare for the > inevitable with my beloved cat, Pop. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I have been blessed with a beautiful, loving cat and he is a joy in my > life that I can't imagine living without. I know that if my Isis or Jade's time comes I'll opt for home euthanasia and then have her body cremated.  SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > I am so sorry, Nightstar. It is a very difficult thing to face. We had to > have our kitty put down, she was 17 1/2, a few years back. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > I have been blessed with a beautiful, loving cat and he is a joy in my > > life that I can't imagine living without. "Nightstar" -------------> > I don't even want to think about this but know I must prepare for the > inevitable with my beloved cat, Pop. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I have been blessed with a beautiful, loving cat and he is a joy in my > life that I can't imagine living without. What Mary L. said goes for me too, even more than doubly so. I've been through euthanising process 5 times now in my nearly half century age. My first was about 28 years ago. I can tell you I remember each and every minute of the procedure of every one. I can also say it gets harder every time. I don't know if I can do it again. I can tell you in all honesty I'd rather die than my beautiful kitties. But yes, if I have to I will. When it comes right down to it I'm their caregiver. I'm responsible for each and everything that happens to them. And when the time comes it's my duty to be there. But though I remember each time, I really don't dwell on it. When I think of my pets that have gone over the RB, I really tend to think of them when they were alive and the fun we had. The beautiful times. I can tell from your post that you're a good person, a very special person who has taken in a kitty desperate for what you could give him and you gave it to him. You allowed and are presently allowing hime a beautiful, fullfilling life. When his time comes, it comes. There's nothing you will be able to do about it. I fervently hope and pray that it won't come for a long, long time, but when it does come... So if it does come to that sometimes down the road, hold his paw, stroke his head, reassure him that you love him, and let him go. He deserves the _best_ in life and so do you, but everything comes to an end, unfortunately. I wish you well in his care and _so_ wish that everyone was like you. I think you understand. Regards, Signaturebill n > I don't even want to think about this but know I must prepare for the > inevitable with my beloved cat, Pop. > > I think I can find a vet to do home euthanasia but wanted to know what > happens with the body? Does the vet take it? I imagine that you'd have the same options as you would if it were done at the office: you can keep it for burial, or the vet can take it if you've opted for cremation. If you want the ashes back, the office will call you when the ashes are ready. The only way to find out what your vet's prcodedures are is to call & ask. Not a weird question. > I know it is probably the most difficult and sad decision one has to > make no matter whether it is done in a vet's office or at home. But, > I wonder if it is worse to do it at home because the last memory and > vision of the cat is his lifeless body in the place where we had such > a wonderful life together. I hadn't really thought of that aspect. I haven't had either of my deceased cats euthanized at home, but I wish I could've. My parents have had most of their pets' euthanasias done at home & prefer it that way. > When my dog was euthanized I took him to the vet's office. It was so > difficult and I didn't want to stay in the room during the procedure > because I didn't want to see him dead. I didn't want that to be the > way I remembered him. I stayed w/ my cats when each was euthanized. It wasn't nearly as traumatic as I'd supposed: the time leading up to the deaths was much worse, IMO. Good luck w/ Pop - I hope he does well for a good time yet. In the meantime, you have time to figure out how you want to handle the euthansia: ask your vet about the options - they get these questions routinely. Cathy > When I read what I just wrote it sounds selfish. Believe me I am far > from being selfish. I have only had Pop for one short and wonderful [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I have been blessed with a beautiful, loving cat and he is a joy in my > life that I can't imagine living without. << I stayed w/ my cats when each was euthanized. It wasn't nearly as traumatic as I'd supposed: the time leading up to the deaths was much worse, IMO. >> I agree with Cathy. I've had 5 kitties euthanized and I stayed with all of them and each time I am shocked again at how fast it is...and peaceful. I just had my 18 yr. old kitty, Cory, euthanized in March and, while the days leading up to it were torture for me (is it time? is it too soon? does he still have a QOL?), the actual event was quick and peaceful. If I had a choice, which I never have had, I would opt for doing it at home. All my cats have been afraid of the vet so it upset them to go...except Cory...he hated the vet but did not act scared on his last trip there, thankfully. I hope the time you have left with him is very special for both of you and that it is longer than you hope for. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) > I just had my 18 yr. old kitty, Cory, euthanized in >March and, while the days leading up to it were torture >for me (is it time? is it too soon? does he still have >a QOL?), the actual event was quick and peaceful. I could not agree more about the time leading up to it being excruciating. I think I let Gnarly go on too long. In fact, I know I did. That is the thing I regret the most. It is hard not to be in denial about how bad off they really are at times. When I finally let her go it was very sad but a great relief not to be able to see the pain in that little face any more. > > I just had my 18 yr. old kitty, Cory, euthanized in >March and, while the > days leading up to it were torture >for me (is it time? is it too soon? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > very sad but a great relief not to be able to see the pain in that little > face any more. SNIP Another person urging you to stay with Pop until the end when the time comes. I had to put my beloved sixteen-year old Isadora to sleep at the end of March. The vet told me her kidneys were gone, and anything he could do for her at that point would only delay the inevitable without really adding to her quality of life. During her last week, she went downhill quite quickly, losing interest in her food and being very weak and unsteady when she walked. On her last night, I hand fed her scraps of broiled chicken, which she enjoyed very much. On the morning I took her in, she gave me a last twinge of regret as she found the strength to stagger out to my kitchen and even ate a bit from her bowl. There was no question that I wanted to be with her at the end, and was very glad I stayed, stroking her and talking to her as the stuff did its work. I was still stroking her when I felt her take her last breath. I won't deny it was very sad, but there was no doubt in my mind it was the right thing to do for Isadora's sake. No matter how sad the end was, I'd adopt her all over again, as she gave me many years of companionship, fun, and love. My other old cat, Panther is still alive and doing well, but he too is 16, and is plainly not going to live forever. When his time comes, I know that I'll stay with him to say goodbye. Coming home to see him napping on the bed was a huge comfort that day. I have also recently found a new cat friend, six month old Francesca, adopted from the pound two weeks ago. =o) Melissa > I think I can find a vet to do home euthanasia but wanted to know what > happens with the body? Does the vet take it? It depends on your wishes. I allowed them to take my cat because it would have been too wrenching for me to deal with--and in my book, "she" was gone so it didn't really matter about the thing that had contained her. > I wonder if it is worse to do it at home because the last memory and vision of the cat is his lifeless body in the place where we had such a wonderful life together. I had the vet come to my home so that my cat's last memory would not be fear--she hated the vet's. It comforted me and her for me to be close to her when she died. She was not afraid and she died peacefully. My memories of her are sweet. > When my dog was euthanized I took him to the vet's office. It was so > difficult and I didn't want to stay in the room during the procedure > because I didn't want to see him dead. I didn't want that to be the > way I remembered him. I have heard vets say that it is harder for dogs--I don't know what that means--but one vet suggested that my friend not witness her lab's euthanasia. > When I read what I just wrote it sounds selfish. Believe me I am far > from being selfish. I wouldn't judge you. This is a very personal thing. You have been so kind to this cat, I trust you to do the kindest thing now and to know what that is. My heart goes out to you. It is a hard and terrible thing. It's always hard to lose a pet, no matter how you do it, there's no avoiding the grief. I lost a dear cat last year and just for the sake of expedience we buried him in our back yard. At the time I wondered if it would be terrible to think of him out there dead, but now I'm glad he's there -- I planted a salvia near his grave and made him a little headstone, and I feel that if there's such a thing as cat spirits, he's glad to be in his old stomping grounds. I have asked myself the same questions you're asking, regarding my current cats -- when it's their time could I stand to have them euthanized at home, and deal with their bodies? And really, when I stop and think about it, I think I'd actually prefer that to not being with them when they go. There's something comforting in taking care of their bodies myself, rather than leaving them somewhere, I don't know why. In the south, where I live, there are still places where people "lay out" the bodies of their deceased family members -- they wash and dress them and bury them themselves after a period of "watching" with the body, and I think there's some wisdom in that. It's good clean grieving and there's something healing in it. -- M9 > I don't even want to think about this but know I must prepare for the > inevitable with my beloved cat, Pop. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I have been blessed with a beautiful, loving cat and he is a joy in my > life that I can't imagine living without. >-- when it's their time could I stand to have them >euthanized at home, and deal with their bodies? And really, when I stop and >think about it, I think I'd actually prefer that to not being with them when >they go. Not to sound macabre, but I would *much* prefer dealing with the bodies myself, mostly because I've seen what happens to shelter dogs/cats...they are put in a dumpster for special pick-up, and dumped in a garbage truck like trash. Since your average vet doesn't have cremation facilities, I'm sure that same truck does pick-up at the vets unless special arrangements are made for cremation or the animal's body is brought home. What you mentioned about the old custom of laying out family members at home...when we brought Cherokee home in a special burial box (supplied by the vet). We set him on the table till we could dig the hole. The other three cats jumped on the table, and carefully sniffed all around the box, then sat next to it. It was really quite touching. It was like they were "watching" over him. Thank you all so much for your wise advice and for sharing your touching experiences with your beloved cats. I am extremely frightened to stay with Pop during euthanasia. However, I do think it is ultimately the best thing for Pop. I probably should have mentioned that I don't really have the option of burying Pop at my home. I live in a condo in the Los Angeles area with no yard of my own. I will research cremation options. > >-- when it's their time could I stand to have them > >euthanized at home, and deal with their bodies? And really, when I stop and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > around the box, then sat next to it. It was really quite touching. It was like > they were "watching" over him. > Thank you all so much for your wise advice and for sharing your touching > experiences with your beloved cats. > > I am extremely frightened to stay with Pop during euthanasia. However, I do > think it is ultimately the best thing for Pop. In that case, I'd advise: that you tell this to your vet, & ask him/her to explain the process to you, step-by-step, maybe along w/ anecdotal stuff s/he's gleaned - well ahead of time, then another quicker explanation right before the actual time. That may help, quite a lot. If you wind up having it done at the office instead of at home, the vet will also most likely allow you to come in a side door if there is one, be billed later (instead of having to deal with payment/the front counter, etc. right then), & exit out the other door too, if you want, rather than having to walk through the waiting room. > I probably should have mentioned that I don't really have the option of > burying Pop at my home. I live in a condo in the Los Angeles area with no > yard of my own. I will research cremation options. There's probably both mass & private cremation available, at different prices. The vet office may have their own facility, or they may send to another crematorium. Either way, if you want the ashes back, they'll box them for you & call you for pick-up. Cathy > Thank you all so much for your wise advice and for sharing your touching > experiences with your beloved cats. > > I am extremely frightened to stay with Pop during euthanasia. However, I do > think it is ultimately the best thing for Pop. Don't be afraid. You will cry but you will feel good because your beloved Pop will have your scent and your voice all around him at the end, and will not be so afraid. They gave my girl the shot right on the foot of my bed where she always slept--we had placed a towel under her. I huddled over her, my arms forming a circle around her, and petted her head gently and told her "go seepy seep" just like I always did at night. She was peaceful and ready to go. Just make sure when the body is cremated that you are there when it happens. You never know what they might put in that urn. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > Thank you all so much for your wise advice and for sharing your touching > experiences with your beloved cats. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > burying Pop at my home. I live in a condo in the Los Angeles area with no > yard of my own. I will research cremation options. IMO, you can safely ignore this from CP. I personally know of no one who had asked to be present for their pet's cremation. Maybe it happens, but no one I know IRL has done it. And the ashes have come back to me in boxes, not urns. I would imagine that if one wants an urn, one purchases one. Cathy > Just make sure when the body is cremated that you are there when it happens. > You never know what they might put in that urn. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > burying Pop at my home. I live in a condo in the Los Angeles area with no > > yard of my own. I will research cremation options. > IMO, you can safely ignore this from CP. I personally know of no one who > had asked to be present for their pet's cremation. Maybe it happens, but no [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Cathy That's correct. Some people use hollow cat figurines as urns. MaryL << IMO, you can safely ignore this from CP. I personally know of no one who had asked to be present for their pet's cremation. Maybe it happens, but no one I know IRL has done it. >> I agree, I certainly haven't in 5 euthanasias/cremations. In fact, I've only requested the ashes back in 2 of those cases. I sort of wish I had in a third one of those but we didn't. We have other things to remember the cats by. In all actuality, having the ashes back didn't mean as much to me as I thought it might. I have so many other things, photos, collars, toys, memories, that the ashes are sort of an afterthought. I've never really known what to do with the ashes of the 2 that I have. Somehow, by the time I got the ashes back, it didn't matter as much to me anymore. Also, I even considered that it might not be Emily's and Cory's ashes totally, that it might be those of some other cats mixed in and, really, so what if it is? I guess I don't think the physical remnants mean that much because I believe they still exist in spirit and that I'll be with them again someday. The only reason I wish we also had Miles' ashes is because I feel bad/guilty that we have Emily's and Cory's and they were all our pets simultaneously. Everywhere else that we have little memorials to the departed kitties, Miles is represented but not in the ashes category. It just seems incomplete and I sort of wish we didn't have any of them. I don't know if I will get any of them in the future...I will get them cremated but probably the mass cremation as opposed to a private cremation with return of the ashes. I think in the emotions of the moment, you sometimes opt for something you may not want. In Cory's case, who just died in March, I felt like I should get them because I already had his mom cat's ashes (She died in '99) and it seemed like I should have them both if I already had one. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) > << IMO, you can safely ignore this from CP. I personally know of no one who > had asked to be present for their pet's cremation. Maybe it happens, but no [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > be Emily's and Cory's ashes totally, that it might be those of some other cats > mixed in and, really, so what if it is? I opted for a mass cremation for my first cat, Sabina. The vet explained that they'd be able to put her over to the side, & that I'd get back most of her ashes, though not all, & that some other pets' ashes might be mixed in w/ hers. That didn't bother me. I figured I had most of her own ashes, & if some others were mixed in, respect/honor was being shown for those pets' lives & deaths, too. I kept the ashes in a DR dresser drawer for a couple of years till I laid a brick path in the garden, then buried them under the center of the walk. In between, while still in the drawer, I'd say "Hi" to Sabina whenever I happened to open that drawer. ;-) Debbie's ashes - a single/private cremation - are still in the secretary in the LR almost 3 years after her death. So far, I have no plans to scatter or bury them. I say "Hi" to her, too. ;-) Cathy Why should this be ignored? Would you trust them to give you the right ashes if it was a human relative? I certainly wouldn't so why should a cat be different. I don't think you should knock my suggestion so quickly. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > << IMO, you can safely ignore this from CP. I personally know of no one who > had asked to be present for their pet's cremation. Maybe it happens, but no [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other > than human." (Loren Eisely) > Why should this be ignored? Would you trust them to give you the right ashes > if it was a human relative? WHO CARES? >Why should this be ignored? Because half the time you don't know what you're talking about; the other half you're posting long, tiresome, indignant replies when you only read the first two lines of any post. Would you trust them to give you the right ashes >if it was a human relative? Yes. News flash. No relative personally witnesses a cremation. Nor would they want to. I seriously doubt anyone witnesses a pet cremation. I've never heard of it. Sherry I certainly wouldn't so why should a cat be >different. I don't think you should knock my suggestion so quickly. >> << IMO, you can safely ignore this from CP. I personally know of no one >who [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >other >> than human." (Loren Eisely) > Why should this be ignored? Would you trust them to give you the right ashes > if it was a human relative? I certainly wouldn't so why should a cat be > different. I don't think you should knock my suggestion so quickly. Because you have no idea what you are talking about, that's why it should be ignored. I don't think it's possible to witness a cremation, human or animal. I have no idea why you would want to. Would you really want to witness the body of your dearly departed being put into an oven? When Dash was put to sleep, I had her cremated, because I live in a condo and had nowhere to immediately bury her. When I picked up her ashes, they had me sign a log, and there was a sticker on the bottom of the tin with her and my name on it. I can only trust that they were all her ashes. I buried her ashes when I went home for Thanksgiving. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net Check out www.snittens.com How do you know I have no idea what I am talking about? I guess you'll easily dismiss the following then: http://www.animalcarecrematory.com/faqs/ http://www.cremate.to/prices.htm http://www.hillside-cemetery.com/locations.html Yes, you can witness a cremation at some places and the reason you would want to is because you want to make sure you are getting the proper ashes. And there have been cases where mortuaries have actually given people the wrong ashes. That is why they have options of seeing the body cremated. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > Because you have no idea what you are talking about, that's why it should be > ignored. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and my name on it. I can only trust that they were all her ashes. I buried > her ashes when I went home for Thanksgiving. >Why should this be ignored? Would you trust them to give you the right ashes >if it was a human relative? I certainly wouldn't so why should a cat be >different. I don't think you should knock my suggestion so quickly. The whole process of playing with the corpse is idiotic, savage, and a throwback to the stone age. Put the corpse in a big garbage bag and toss it in the dumpster. << The whole process of playing with the corpse is idiotic, savage, and a throwback to the stone age. Put the corpse in a big garbage bag and toss it in the dumpster. >> I tend to agree. I don't want a bunch of people looking at me when I'm dead and saying such drivel as, "Well, she's at peace now," and "She looks so natural." Ugh. On the other hand, it would creep me out to go out to our trash in the alley, and see a big, huge bag with one of my neighbors in it. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) ><< The whole process of playing with the corpse is idiotic, savage, and a >throwback to the stone age. Put the corpse in a big garbage bag and toss it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Candace True. When it comes right down to brass tacks, whatever we decide to do with a beloved pet's remains, we're doing it for us, not them. I understand people who prefer cremation. What I *don't* understand, is anyone being paranoid enough to want to stand there and witness their cat going in the crematory. I would *not* want to do that. Sherry > What I *don't* understand, is anyone being paranoid > enough to want to stand there and witness their cat going in the crematory. I > would *not* want to do that. Morons are so frustrating. We of average intelligence cannot quite grasp that they can be THAT stupid, so we think we must be missing something. It is not idiotic. There have been cases where mortuaries have either given people the wrong ashes or buried the body. I remember one case that happened (it was a few years ago) where investigators found that some mortuary just dumped the bodies and then billed the families. Investigators found many bodies being simply dumped out of the back of this place. So, mistakes with bodies does happen. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message news:slrncbnt3c.2v9.The-Central- > The whole process of playing with the corpse is idiotic, savage, and a > throwback to the stone age. Put the corpse in a big garbage bag and toss it > in the dumpster. >It is not idiotic. There have been cases where mortuaries have either given >people the wrong ashes or buried the body. I remember one case that happened So what? It's just a lousy corpse. Quit playing with it. Is this how you would treat those of your family that may be dying? What if they asked you to be there to make sure they were cremated per their wishes? Would you say forget it and dump their body in the trash? SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message news:slrncbo24i.2v9.The-Central- > So what? It's just a lousy corpse. Quit playing with it. >Is this how you would treat those of your family that may be dying? What if Corpses aren't dying. They're dead. Quit playing with them. > >It is not idiotic. There have been cases where mortuaries have either given > >people the wrong ashes or buried the body. I remember one case that happened > > So what? It's just a lousy corpse. Quit playing with it. I can only hope that the OP has quit reading this thread by now. Cathy Unfortunately I did not stop reading. But, the good advice and the kind words far outweigh the bickering. I truly appreciate you all sharing your experiences with me. > > On Mon, 31 May 2004 21:19:56 -0700, Cat Protector <catprotector@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cathy > It is not idiotic. There have been cases where mortuaries have either given > people the wrong ashes or buried the body. I remember one case that happened [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > it > > in the dumpster. WHO CARES? The valuable part is gone when the cat dies. circa Mon, 31 May 2004 18:35:02 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, > Why should this be ignored? Would you trust them to give you the right ashes > if it was a human relative? I certainly wouldn't so why should a cat be > different. I don't think you should knock my suggestion so quickly. No, you just don't think. There's a difference. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > No, you just don't think. There's a difference. Oh, I think he thinks, in a rudimentary fashion. He just doesn't think very well. At all. :) |
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