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Icarus Recovering
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Cat Protector - 27 Mar 2008 04:11 GMT I thought I'd give everyone an update. I've been checking on Icarus every day and not had too much opportunity to visit him because I didn't want to interfere too much with the vet. Before I left the vet on Sunday, I left my jacket with him so he had my scent and hopefully make him more comfortable. He's very hostile at the vet and let's them know he doesn't like being there. Regardless, on Monday I did visit with him for about 5-10 minutes and asked about his canned diet being a bit more nutritional and finding something that didn't have too much fiber in it. Yesterday, when I stopped by the vet they were busy but they had pilled him and force fed him. I didn't get to visit with Icarus though.
Today, the vet said that he's eating on his own and producing urine. He still has the cone on his head but seems to be doing much better. There is also a possibility that he might be coming home tomorrow. They said that they'll be removing the catheter and if he urinates in the litterbox normally then he'll be ready to come home. This has put a strain on me financially but he's worth it. I really miss him and so does Isis, but she's also enjoying the fact that she has me all to herself right now.
cindys - 27 Mar 2008 04:22 GMT This is wonderful news. I hope you will all be reunited soon. Purrs for Icarus' continued recovery. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
>I thought I'd give everyone an update. I've been checking on Icarus every >day and not had too much opportunity to visit him because I didn't want to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > financially but he's worth it. I really miss him and so does Isis, but > she's also enjoying the fact that she has me all to herself right now. mc - 27 Mar 2008 04:40 GMT > This is wonderful news. I hope you will all be reunited soon. Purrs for > Icarus' continued recovery. > Best regards, > ---Cindy S. Good Luck ;-) This is good news ;-)
Cat Protector - 27 Mar 2008 05:06 GMT Thanks.
> Good Luck ;-) This is good news ;-) Cat Protector - 27 Mar 2008 05:06 GMT Thanks. I miss having my Icarus fix.
> This is wonderful news. I hope you will all be reunited soon. Purrs for > Icarus' continued recovery. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> financially but he's worth it. I really miss him and so does Isis, but >> she's also enjoying the fact that she has me all to herself right now. cybercat - 27 Mar 2008 05:47 GMT "> "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote
>> Today, the vet said that he's eating on his own and producing urine. He >> still has the cone on his head but seems to be doing much better. There >> is also a possibility that he might be coming home tomorrow. They said >> that they'll be removing the catheter and if he urinates in the litterbox >> normally then he'll be ready to come home. Fantastic, CP! I know it has been hard on all of you.
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Cat Protector - 27 Mar 2008 06:48 GMT Thanks Cyber. Yes, it has been rough especially financially. Icarus is worth it.
> Fantastic, CP! I know it has been hard on all of you. blkcatgal - 27 Mar 2008 04:49 GMT I hope Icarus is feeling better soon and is home with you soon. Keep us posted.
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>I thought I'd give everyone an update. I've been checking on Icarus every >day and not had too much opportunity to visit him because I didn't want to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > financially but he's worth it. I really miss him and so does Isis, but > she's also enjoying the fact that she has me all to herself right now. Cat Protector - 27 Mar 2008 05:07 GMT Thanks and I will. I doubt my jacket smells anything like me now. It probably will need some good washing.
>I hope Icarus is feeling better soon and is home with you soon. Keep us >posted. > > S. CatNipped - 27 Mar 2008 13:52 GMT >I thought I'd give everyone an update. I've been checking on Icarus every >day and not had too much opportunity to visit him because I didn't want to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > financially but he's worth it. I really miss him and so does Isis, but > she's also enjoying the fact that she has me all to herself right now. I'm so glad Icarus is doing better, we've been purring for his recovery and will continue to do so. Let us know when your unhappy little camper gets home again.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Cat Protector - 27 Mar 2008 15:10 GMT Thanks. I will.
> I'm so glad Icarus is doing better, we've been purring for his recovery > and will continue to do so. Let us know when your unhappy little camper [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > CatNipped Sheelagh>"o"< - 28 Mar 2008 18:07 GMT > I thought I'd give everyone an update. I've been checking on Icarus every > day and not had too much opportunity to visit him because I didn't want to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > financially but he's worth it. I really miss him and so does Isis, but she's > also enjoying the fact that she has me all to herself right now. Wonderful News Indeed. <Big Smile this end>
I know how you feel though! It's no fun @ all when your feline family are ill. A constant worry, hard on the wallet, & makes us all grummble because we all hate baked beans for months on end, LOL- but worth every penny/cent! I'm delighted to hear there has been some improvement, & hopefully, by the time you read this post, his catheter might be out, & with any luck @ all, he might be home with you? Poor poor Icarus. she has had a rough time recently.
( it might also be worth mentioning, that illness it takes it's own toll out of the slave concerned too. Take time out for you sometime too- I'm sure that is what Icarus would want you do!) Continued Purrs of comfort & reassurance, Sheelagh >"o"<
Cat Protector - 28 Mar 2008 18:22 GMT Thanks Sheelagh. I thought he'd be coming back home yesterday. I never got a call from the vet and I know they get busy. Perhaps today they'll call me and let me know if he can come home. Yes, this has taken a toll on me. I'm trying to stay positive though.
On Mar 27, 3:11 am, "Cat Protector" <catprotec...@cox.net> wrote: Wonderful News Indeed. <Big Smile this end>
I know how you feel though! It's no fun @ all when your feline family are ill. A constant worry, hard on the wallet, & makes us all grummble because we all hate baked beans for months on end, LOL- but worth every penny/cent! I'm delighted to hear there has been some improvement, & hopefully, by the time you read this post, his catheter might be out, & with any luck @ all, he might be home with you? Poor poor Icarus. she has had a rough time recently.
( it might also be worth mentioning, that illness it takes it's own toll out of the slave concerned too. Take time out for you sometime too- I'm sure that is what Icarus would want you do!) Continued Purrs of comfort & reassurance, Sheelagh >"o"<
Cat Protector - 28 Mar 2008 19:50 GMT I just got a call from the vet. Icarus has taken a slight turn for the worst. The vet says that his catheter became blocked and they had to expel the urine manually. He said that he's never before seen a catheter become blocked. The PU surgery is an option but I pretty much have no money to pay for it if I have to have a surgeon do it. The vet says that it's possible he has spasms of the bladder so I'm getting a call from Diamondback Drugs to get the medication for this. I have no clue what else I'm going to do here. I don't want to have to put Icarus to sleep simply because of money. I hate to lose him.
mc - 29 Mar 2008 00:20 GMT > I just got a call from the vet. Icarus has taken a slight turn for the > worst. The vet says that his catheter became blocked and they had to expel [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I don't want to have to put Icarus to sleep simply because of money. I hate > to lose him. CP,
I am so sorry. Please don't put Icarus down for financial reasons, although I truly understand the finances part of it. I understand if putting him down is truly what you must do, but I would encourage you to consider every other option first. I truly, truly sympathise with you on that issue. Only you can decide if you must go with trying to pay for the surgery or put him down.
I had just lost my job when Max started having his issues with the urine crystals. Additionally, within a month or two of taking him in, he was already in need of the surgery! I had gotten him from a friend and he began showing signs of distress within just a day or two of me bringing him into my house. Sometimes I wonder if my "friend" gave him to me because she suspected a problem, but there are too many variables in this to be sure, and urine crystals can crop up within 24-48 hours... it can become a problem that quickly... So I will never know for sure unless she fesses up - and she won't. Bickering about it certainly won't do me any good!
Believe me, my husband and I had to do some serious thinking... did we really want to put a couple of thousand dollars into Max? But Max is such a hoot and such a joy to us... we found it in our hearts to somehow, some way make this work. And of course, our veterinarian also worked with us. I really feel that the vet did the whole thing for us for nearly cost. Dr. Nauta contributes and helps out with rescues and so I guess he felt we were a worthy enough cause. He is truly an animal lover. I cannot say enough good things about my veterinarian.
My whole thing is that I feel that when I get back on top of things financially that I would like donate the difference +++ to my vets office, because they truly have gone above and beyond. And a donation would only be helping others who are in my predicament.
Believe me, there is not much money in our household. We were a family used to having money. My husband and I did very well for quite a number years. And then he became disabled - he was diagnosed with MS in 1999 and ever since things have been quite a struggle for us. That is when everything started what I refer to as the "downward spiral".
No one, and I mean no one understands.
All I am saying is that I know you love Icarus. I know financially you are strapped because of all of this... But Icarus did not ask to have this condition.
You have to do what you have to do. Whatever you decide, it is your decision to make.
My thoughts are purrs go with you ;-)
Melissa
Cat Protector - 29 Mar 2008 02:51 GMT Thanks. I don't want to put Icarus down for financial reasons and it never crossed my mind but I have to wonder if there's a surgeon who will do the PU surgery and I can pay them back via a payment plan?
Dr. Pruitt (Icarus's doctor) actually mentioned that the problem might be a bladder spasm which may have caused his catheter to get blocked so we're trying a drug that supposedly relaxes his muscles and everything so he can pee. Apparently it's like an anti-inflammatory or something.
>> I just got a call from the vet. Icarus has taken a slight turn for the >> worst. The vet says that his catheter became blocked and they had to [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Melissa blkcatgal - 29 Mar 2008 01:05 GMT CP, I'm sorry to hear Icarus is still having problems. Talk with your veterinarian. Hopefully he will be understanding enough to help you out here and maybe offer a payment plan of some sort.
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>I just got a call from the vet. Icarus has taken a slight turn for the >worst. The vet says that his catheter became blocked and they had to expel [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >here. I don't want to have to put Icarus to sleep simply because of money. >I hate to lose him. Cat Protector - 29 Mar 2008 02:52 GMT I'm already on a payment plan with the vet. I just don't know if a surgeon who does PU surgeory (if Icarus needs it) would be so helpful.
> CP, I'm sorry to hear Icarus is still having problems. Talk with your > veterinarian. Hopefully he will be understanding enough to help you out [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>I'm going to do here. I don't want to have to put Icarus to sleep simply >>because of money. I hate to lose him. mc - 29 Mar 2008 03:41 GMT <<< Thanks. I don't want to put Icarus down for financial reasons and it never crossed my mind but I have to wonder if there's a surgeon who will do the PU surgery and I can pay them back via a payment plan?
I apologize if I wasn't clear. I thought it was pretty straightforward.
Max had "the surgery" within 3 months of us taking him in.
Our vet was happy to cut the cost of the surgery to quite a degree and then was also willing to accept payment arrangements.
Believe you me; I only offer this information to you to get you to see that 1) You are not alone, and 2) Most likely, if your vet is as good as you seem to think, he/she may very well be willing to work out arrangements with you, and may even be willing to cut the cost somewhat.
You cannot count on that however; veterinarians work with enough dead beats as to cause them to have some reservations about working with people who may or may not pay their bills. Perfectly understandable.
You have already established a relationship of trust with your vet which puts you ahead somewhat.
Of course, whether or not your vet is willing to work with you will be dependent upon your attutude and what you believe you can accomplish.
Lets face it, all you can do is try.
Please do let us know the outcome.
Cat Protector - 29 Mar 2008 03:54 GMT I'm already on a payment plan with the vet but he's never done a PU which is why a surgeon would be brought in. I just don't know if the surgeon would be willing to do a payment plan.
> <<< Thanks. I don't want to put Icarus down for financial reasons and > it never [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Please do let us know the outcome. -mhd - 29 Mar 2008 04:43 GMT >I'm already on a payment plan with the vet but he's never done a PU which is >why a surgeon would be brought in. I just don't know if the surgeon would be >willing to do a payment plan. If the surgeon is "brought in" then the billing may still be through your vet and your vet will pay the surgeon.
-mhd
mc - 29 Mar 2008 05:27 GMT > >I'm already on a payment plan with the vet but he's never done a PU which is > >why a surgeon would be brought in. I just don't know if the surgeon would be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -mhd You can at least try. That is the least you can do.
If the surgeon in question is not willing you can always call around and find someone who is. Your own veterinarian, understanding the situation as it is, would very likely give you a good reference... believe me, these folks know one another... It is worth a try anyway, but the choice is ultimately yours.
I know there are also ways to apply for credit... if you have OK credit, then you may be able to apply for a line of credit if that is what you choose to do. Most vets will offer this service as well.
The choice is yours... and only you have those answers.
Thanks, Melissa
Cat Protector - 29 Mar 2008 20:03 GMT I know. I talked to the vet today and Icarus is in fair condition which is a bit better than yesterday. I'm going to visit him in a bit and see if my being there will help him recover. Thanks to everyone who cared so much to send their thoughts and prayers. It means a lot.
>> >I'm already on a payment plan with the vet but he's never done a PU >> >which is [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Thanks, > Melissa Cat Protector - 30 Mar 2008 05:27 GMT I got visit Icarus today and he was pretty much in fair condition. He was happy to see me but still a bit out of it. The vet said there was a moment yesterday when he though Icarus was going to check out which provided a bit of a scare. Today Icarus was given food via a syringe and once again had to have his bladder emptied. Dr. Pruitt also inserted a syringe in the catheter to pull out the urine. The tube was dripping. Icarus was also given the medication I had to pick up yesterday for bladder spasms. The pathologist told my vet that Icarus will have to be on canned SD from now on and nothing else and that some intensive fluid therapy is in order. Basically, keep clearing the catheter and then break up the crystals with a thorough flush of saline. I'll be going back to the vet tomorrow morning and being with Icarus because the vet feels that my being there might help his recovery.
Sheelagh>"o"< - 30 Mar 2008 13:11 GMT > I got visit Icarus today and he was pretty much in fair condition. He was > happy to see me but still a bit out of it. The vet said there was a moment [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of saline. I'll be going back to the vet tomorrow morning and being with > Icarus because the vet feels that my being there might help his recovery. Continued Warm Regards & Best wishes for both you & Icarus. A sritch & tickle behind the left ear should do the trick :o) Sheelagh >"o"< PS: Thank you for keeping us updated
Cat Protector - 30 Mar 2008 16:34 GMT Thanks Sheelagh. I will be visiting him again today. It's been a week now and he's still there.
Continued Warm Regards & Best wishes for both you & Icarus. A sritch & tickle behind the left ear should do the trick :o) Sheelagh >"o"< PS: Thank you for keeping us updated
blkcatgal - 30 Mar 2008 16:34 GMT CP, I'm sorry that Icarus is still having problems. Continued good thoughts and healing purrs are coming his way.
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>I got visit Icarus today and he was pretty much in fair condition. He was >happy to see me but still a bit out of it. The vet said there was a moment [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >and being with Icarus because the vet feels that my being there might help >his recovery. Cat Protector - 30 Mar 2008 16:40 GMT Thanks.
> CP, I'm sorry that Icarus is still having problems. Continued good > thoughts and healing purrs are coming his way. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>and being with Icarus because the vet feels that my being there might help >>his recovery. Rene S. - 31 Mar 2008 17:08 GMT > If the surgeon in question is not willing you can always call around > and find someone who is. Your own veterinarian, understanding the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > credit, then you may be able to apply for a line of credit if that is > what you choose to do. Most vets will offer this service as well. When my Tucker had pancreatitis and was in and out of the emergency hospital, the bills were approaching several thousand dollars. I decided to take on a temporary second job for extra income. This could be an option for you, as well as selling on eBay, craigslist, or another online place. Since then, I have established a pets-only savings account. Money is deposited each week into the account via direct deposit. I know it could be quickly wiped out in an emergency, but it's at least a small cushion for the future. Just some options to think about for now and down the road.
Cat Protector - 31 Mar 2008 21:54 GMT I thought of that but I've tried to do that in the past but because I'm self employed and work in the computer field, I think some of these $10 an hour employers are probably afraid of me leaving them. I seem to get no response when I apply for part-time jobs. I may not need the surgery at this point because Icarus seems to be improving.
When my Tucker had pancreatitis and was in and out of the emergency hospital, the bills were approaching several thousand dollars. I decided to take on a temporary second job for extra income. This could be an option for you, as well as selling on eBay, craigslist, or another online place. Since then, I have established a pets-only savings account. Money is deposited each week into the account via direct deposit. I know it could be quickly wiped out in an emergency, but it's at least a small cushion for the future. Just some options to think about for now and down the road.
Cat Protector - 31 Mar 2008 21:57 GMT I just saw Icarus last night and he's in better shape today than he was yesterday. He saw and heard me and gave a meow and was purring and crawling on me when his cage door was opened. This all lasted until we had to put him up on the table and the vet did his thing. Icarus was given his meds, and Dr. Pruitt checked his bladder, fed him via a syringe, and of course pilled him. Icarus took it a lot better this time. The catheter is also dripping on its own and Icarus has received plenty of IV fluids. The vet said he should be overhydrated. After all the work was done the cone was put back on his head and the vet put some water and a litterbox in the cage and then put Icarus in there. Icarus isn't a happy camper but looks to be much improved than he was over previous two days.
blkcatgal - 01 Apr 2008 00:51 GMT That is good news, CP. Hope Icarus continues to improve.
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>I just saw Icarus last night and he's in better shape today than he was >yesterday. He saw and heard me and gave a meow and was purring and crawling [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >and then put Icarus in there. Icarus isn't a happy camper but looks to be >much improved than he was over previous two days. Cat Protector - 01 Apr 2008 02:05 GMT I talked to the vet again today and he now has the catheter out and Icarus is producing urine and emptying his bladder. If all goes well he'll most likely be cleared to come home tomorrow. It would be a great birthday gift for me as my day is on Wednesday.
> That is good news, CP. Hope Icarus continues to improve. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>cage and then put Icarus in there. Icarus isn't a happy camper but looks >>to be much improved than he was over previous two days. Cat Protector - 02 Apr 2008 05:26 GMT I visited Icarus today and he's doing much better. The vet says he's eating all his food and producing urine. The vet says that if all things check out he'll be released to go home tomorrow. It'll be the perfect birthday present for me.
22brix - 02 Apr 2008 14:49 GMT >I visited Icarus today and he's doing much better. The vet says he's eating >all his food and producing urine. The vet says that if all things check out >he'll be released to go home tomorrow. It'll be the perfect birthday >present for me. Happy Birthday, CP and hoping that Icarus can come home and help you celebrate!!
Bonnie
Cat Protector - 02 Apr 2008 15:34 GMT Thanks. The only present I wanted was for him to be home with us.
>>I visited Icarus today and he's doing much better. The vet says he's >>eating all his food and producing urine. The vet says that if all things [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bonnie cybercat - 02 Apr 2008 20:26 GMT >>I visited Icarus today and he's doing much better. The vet says he's >>eating all his food and producing urine. The vet says that if all things [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Happy Birthday, CP and hoping that Icarus can come home and help you > celebrate!! Absolutely! Hope you both have a great day.
Cat Protector - 02 Apr 2008 21:15 GMT Thanks. I'm absolutely anxious for him to come home.
> Absolutely! Hope you both have a great day. Sheelagh>"o"< - 06 Apr 2008 15:57 GMT > I just saw Icarus last night and he's in better shape today than he was > yesterday. He saw and heard me and gave a meow and was purring and crawling [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Icarus in there. Icarus isn't a happy camper but looks to be much improved > than he was over previous two days. Fantastic news. It's all going in the right direction. Best Wishe's, & Leg Rub's Purr's en route, Sheelagh
Cat Protector - 06 Apr 2008 17:22 GMT Actually, Icarus is home now and recovering. He's producing urine but not really crazy about eating this morning. I had to add tuna water to his food. I guess when he gets hungry enough he'll eat without too much coaxing.
On Mar 31, 9:57 pm, "Cat Protector" <catprotec...@cox.net> wrote:
> I just saw Icarus last night and he's in better shape today than he was > yesterday. He saw and heard me and gave a meow and was purring and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Icarus in there. Icarus isn't a happy camper but looks to be much improved > than he was over previous two days. Fantastic news. It's all going in the right direction. Best Wishe's, & Leg Rub's Purr's en route, Sheelagh
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