HOWEDY Huso,

"Huso" <hus_fci@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:131d366a-f492-44f8-
b725-d09ca730529f@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

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Here's my manual:
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There you will find ALL the FREE information you need
to pupperly handle raise and train your pets and family.
Just follow the instructions PRECISELY and ASK me if
you need any additional FREE HEELP <{}: ~ ) >

As The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing,
Majestic Grand Master Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy, Goat, Ferret,
Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey Wizard reviews your post and
website, P-L-E-A-S-E do not feel that you are bein ATTACKED
PERSONALLY. This is STRICTLY PROFESSIONAL.

Your advice is ignorameHOWES at beast, and harmful in general.

HOWEsbreakin is NORMAL, NATURAL, INNATE, INSTINCTIVE
and REFLEXIVE behavior begining at four weeks of age. Actually,
THREE weeks, but most folks wouldn't recognize that the pups are
too small to make it far enough away from their nesting area to
qualify
as their attempts to HOWEsbreak themselves <{}: ~ ) >

You mean 'just plain dreaded by dog owners', Huso.

Well, THAT'S on accHOWENTA PROFESSIONAL dog trainin
EXXXPERTS and unversity trained behaviorists attempt to FORCE
CON-TROLL of their dog's, kat's, an kids bodily functions by lockin
them in boxes, forcin them to wear filthy diapers and restricting food
and water and punishing them for HOWEsbreakin accidents <{}: ~ ( >

A. S. Neill, Tthe Famous Founder of The Summerhill
School, Used To Cure Delinquent Children Way Back
In The 1950's By Paying Them For Every Time They
Wet The Bed Or Broke A Pane Of Glass And Their
Behaviour Would Stop, - As If By MAGICK!

               LIKE THIS:

The Embry Study:

"While some may find it strange that reprimands
might increase the chances of a child going into
the street, the literature on the experimental analysis
of behavior is replete with examples of how "attention
to inappropriate behavior" increases the chances of
more inappropriate behavior.

Thus, suggestions to parents that they talk to or reason
with their children about dashing into the street will
likely to have the opposite impact.

Reprimands do not punish unsafe behavior; they reward it."

Source:

"Reducing the Risk of Pedestrian Accidents to
Preschoolers by Parent Training and Symbolic
Modeling for Children: An Experimental Analysis
in the Natural Environment. Research Report
Number 2 of the Safe-Playing Project."

                    --------------------

In primitive cultures where diapers are NOT used, human babies
*(like dogs an kats) HOWEsbreak themselves at six months, which
equates to six weeks of age, in dog an kat life <{}: ~ ) >

That's curiHOWES. Dogs an kats DO NOT HAVE "PROBLEMS"
unless they're ABUSED or MISHANDLED by dog an kat lovers,
JUST LIKE HOWE CHILDREN become deranged by PARENTAL
ABUSES <{}: ~ ( >

Those two behaviors are diometrically opposite <{}: ~ ( >

So called scent marking is an EXXXPRESSION of FEAR /
TERRORTORIAL behavior which ONLY occurs HOWEtside
in the critters TERRORTORY <{}: ~ ( >

"Scent marking" INSIDE is an anXXXIHOWESNESS behavior
CAUSED BY ignorameHOWES / abusive HOWEsbreakin efforts.

Submissive urination is FEAR behavior CAUSED BY
ignorameHOWES traditional OBEDIENCE / HOWEsbreakin
trainin, which coincidentally causes coprophagia <{}: ~ ( >

From: Eric
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in...

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago regarding
submissive peeing.  Just wanted to let you know he's doing
great- he was "cured" in about 2 days using your techniques!
He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!  Once I
stopped thinking like a human and got inside his head, I can
teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter of minutes.  Makes me
look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed 'em,
and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside their
heads and teach them to teach themselves how to be good dogs!
Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T",
I learned from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate
their brain rather than beating a.s or pinching, or any
of that nonsense.  I know damn well I would NOT be loyal
to someone who beat MY a.s lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes out
there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.  A
horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship".  He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows any
more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it (pun
intended)...  Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

              BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Thank you for "proving" my point <{}: ~ ( >

          Why Do You Reward The Dog For Being Bad?
                                   Was:
       Punish Dogs Children SP-HOWESES With PRAISE,
         Unconditional LOVE, TRUST, And RESPECT
                                <{) ; -  )   >

Always praise the dog to show him that you affectionally
support or love him. Praising the dog has nothing to do
with what he has just done, it has to do with your
relationship with him.

"Good dog" means "I love you, dog".

If the dog is anxious, then you make certain that he
knows that he is in a safe and trusting environment.
You praise and admire him.

Correction is the opposite signal, you are my enemy,
and this results, quite naturally, in the dog behaving
aggresively - why not, you've declared that you are his
enemy.

Why does paradoxical reward work?

The dog defecates on the floor.  You come up and say
"Good Dog" you love and praise him.

THE DOG KNOWS YOU LOVE HIM.

The dog defecates on the floor because he is anxious.
No wild wolf, jackal, or coyote defecates in his den.
If he defecates in his den its because a bear is outside
trying to get in and eat him.

The dog knows that it is stupid to
defecate where he eats or sleeps.

Don't you?

If the dog feels safe he'll behave as if he
is safe, no pooping on the living room floor.

Almost all maladaptive behavior is due to fear, anxiety,
expectation of disaster. Correct the situation, and the
dog behaves fluently like a ..... Dog!

Punishment deranges behavior, it is never never never appropriate.

Love the dog.

Praise is never punishment, praise is like giving a
piece of steak. If you give a piece of steak to a dog
after he defecates on the floor he'll stop defecating
on the floor.

Fondly, Dr. Von

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine you may find my resume
in Who's Who in the S & SE USA since 1982, and in the
big books, Who's Who in the USA, WW in the World,
WW in Medicine etc, and WW in Science and Technology,
since that date.

These are the Marquis Publications, the "real" WW,
and you can't get yourself into them.

GvH
                            --------------------

Oh, that's EZ~!

It happens on accHOWENTA people LOVE to HURT
and INTIMIDATE innocent defenseless dumb critters
on accHOWENTA they AIN'T GOT THE INTELLECT
to HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog <{}: ~ ( >

For THAT, we can THANK the EXXXPERT professional
dog abusin cowards like cesar millan 'z dog wheeesperer'
and the MENTAL CASES we got postin right here <{}: ~( >

ALL dogs an kats an children are "HIGHLY SENSITIVE":

Some words from Dr. Fetko:

"In dog training, Jerk is a noun, not a verb."

We're repeatedly told that dog training requires jerking the dog's
chain choke - or even pinch - collar and to lift and shake them by
the scruff of their necks and pin them on their backs. I've trained
dogs (and many other species) all over the world for decades and
was taught to use those methods nearly 40 years ago. (That's how
up-to-date they are!) But those methods are NOT necessary, nor as
effective or quick as gentler methods. I haven't jerked a collar in
20 years! All good training is based upon trust and respect; how
does a social mammal trust or respect someone who jerks, hangs or
pins it?"

Dr. Fetko's Philosophy:
http://www.drdog.com/

Dogs are like wet cement - whatever touches them makes a lasting
impression. So please make every touch loving.

The following quotes are from Dr. Dennis Fetko, noted veterinary
behaviorist:

ABUSE

While testifying at a California State Senate Hearing, I was asked
to define abuse. One I offered: Unnecessary physical or
psychological force in excess of what is required to achieve the
goal. This, and others I stated, were accepted by the entire Hearing
panel.

I have disabled clients and I've known severe physical compromise.
If one can train dogs successfully without jerking collars, pinning,
hanging or scruffing, then doing so is, by definition, abuse. Why
pay someone to abuse your dog? Besides, must you really pay for
that level of input? Like you'd never have thought of that on your
own!

When 88% of the adult dogs I'm paid to train have already been
professionally trained, something's wrong. You pay good money for
professional advice; get it.

                                   LEGAL WORK

Formerly San Diego's Dispute Resolutions Officer, I've qualified in
criminal and civil courts representing both plaintiffs and
defendants as an expert in animal training and behavior, abuse,
aggression, "collecting" and animal nuisances dozens of times for
many years. I'm in legal demand because, with my background and
extensive hands-on experience, my testimony is very difficult to
rebut. Contact me if you, your attorney or someone you know is ever
involved in a legal case involving animals."

And Jerry also HAS similar expert witness testimony experience,
and Jerry WILL TESTIFY for FREE.

Dr. Fetko's TRAINING METHODS:

My methods are practical, gentle and successful because working with
animals is not academic or secondary to me, it's WHAT I DO!
Like you, I hear and read strange things about animals, training and
behavior. But having done it full time for many years, I know what
works.

Methods have effects no one talks about. I say: "Jerk is a noun, not
a verb" and "Nothing with a pulse belongs on a chain" because I
haven't jerked collars or used chains in decades - and I do this
every day, sometimes with very unfriendly dogs! Have you ever been
to Sea World? Who jerks Shamu? If we can train huge feral predators
to a high level of safe performance without active physical
reprimands, HOW DARE WE tell you to jerk your dog's neck?!

Ever notice that people with "bad memories" know all the words to
dozens of songs? That's because music and singing are FUN! A fun,
playful, relaxed attitude is very conducive to learning. Why do we
remember the alphabet forever but forget the times table immediately
after the exam? Because we SANG, PLAYED and ACTED OUT the alphabet!

It was FUN and GAMES!

Then why make dog training hard, negative work for your dog? Our
own experience (and much research) clearly demonstrates that a
harsh approach inhibits learning and retards memory, yet many
people jerk lessons into dogs and drill them until they rebel. WHY?
(sounds just like Jerry so far...)

Anyone who doesn't know the difference between a boss and a bully
shouldn't touch anything with a pulse. We've all had bad experiences
with bullies; why pay someone to bully your dog and, even worse,
make you do so? (sounds a little light compared to Jerry... Jerry's
gonna put you outta business.)

If you take a dog through training and it's much better on lead than
off it, WHY? It's the same you, the same dog and the same command;
why is it better on lead than loose? The main reason is that most
training
teaches the dog to fear the equipment, not respect the handler.

"Without the equipment, you can't do bad things to me -
so leave a note!"

                           ---------------------

Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS?:

Here's HOWER DOG LOVER pal janet boss:

 "Loop the lead (it's basically a GIANT nylon or leather
  choke collar) over his snarly little head, and give him a
  stern correction" --Janet Boss

http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x272/TheIncrediblySimplyAmazingPuppyWizard/Mi
devilTortureDevice/?action=view&current=6a3dda34.pbw

Here's HOWER DOG LOVER pal an janet's PARTNER, sinofabitch:

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

Do you think the citronella collar is CRUEL
cause the SMELL LINGERS after the dog's
been sprayed in the face and the dog won't
know HOWE COME IT was MACED?

janet CONtinues:

They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL LYING
DOG ABUSERS HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER.

                          -------------------

  "J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
   On 6 Feb 2006 17:41:08 GMT, Mary Healey
   <mhhea...@iastate.edu>,
   clicked their heels and said:

   > Does that include tone of voice?  Some tools are easier
   > to ban than others.

   yes - screaming banshees are told to shut up!  And I
   always have to remind spouses that they may NOT do the
   "honey - you're supposed to be doing it like THIS"......
   --
   Janet B
   www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

            ========

Here's HOWER DOG LOVER pals sinofabitch an racetrack silly:

From: sionnach (rhyfe...@email.msn.com)
Subject: Re: Correct use of prong collar
Date: 2001-05-05 13:03:14 PST

 Um, may I suggest a re-wording that might make
 it  clearer- given that "scruff shake" is too easily
 misinterpreted as "pick the puppy up by the scruff
 of the neck and shake the puppy in the air"?

 I think I'd phrase it something like "if the puppy
 is very persistant, it  can be appropriate to take
 hold of the loose skin at the back of the neck and
 give a slight shake to the *skin*".

 Janet's not talking about actually shaking
 the puppy, which I think we ALL agree is
 abusive."

                   ----------------------

Usually immediately followin OBEDIENCE TRAININ.

                  LIKE THIS:

Here's HOWER DOG LOVER pal handsome gentleman jack
morrison the anonymHOWES lyin animal murderin coward
a.k.a. DOGMAN a.k.a. tommy sorenson of sorenson's Retriever
Puppy Mill and SHOCK COLLAR SALES:

"I don't know how big you are, kiddo, so this may
not be as easy for you as it is for me, but use
a little "knee action," that is, as the dog goes
charging by you, just give the dog a little bop
with your knee and shin.  Yep, really lean into it.

Even knock her over, if you can, but make sure to
make her think twice about rushing past you again -
- which is exactly what you want her to do.

Don't bother with scolding her, she'll get the message.

If it happens again, just REPEAT the knee action.

When she steps on your toes, just pick up your foot
abruptly and nudge her with your knee.  Again, no
scolding is necessary here, so you don't have to
worry about her "over-reacting."

I don't think this is necessarily a lack of respect
for you, just a lack of training.  That is, she just
needs *more* of it."

You mean like HOWE when you HOWEsbreak a dog an
you beat IT with a switch or heavy man's leather belt and
tie him next to his evil deed and return to BEAT HIM every
twenty minutes, tommy?

  tommy SEZ:

"My objective is always to find a way that WORKS.

And if it is DANGEROUS behavior that I'm trying
to modify, behavior than can get the dog KILLED,
I will resort to ANYTHING to save him.

A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G.

Okay.  Call me a cruel, inhumane, abusive bastard
if you want to, but it doesn't affect me at all.
When you've saved the lives of as many dogs as I
have, you'll learn that that's the only thing that
really matters.  Saving lives and making dogs become
good citizens"

                 -----------------------

So folks, yes...YOU decide for yourself. If this
seems "cruel" to you, just don't do it. But don't
think about getting an abortion, either.

"Who is cruel to a dog, is more cruel thereby to his own soul." --Will
Judy

Whosoever refuses to punish a dog for behavior
that can get it KILLED has no heart whatsoever
and will go straight to hell.

--Dogman

"So grab the line and give him about 5 minutes of
the hardest tanning you can administer. Use a belt
heavy enough to make him really feel your efforts."
--William Koehler

                     -----------------------

                           SEE?

That MIGHT be simply joyHOWES EXXXCITEMENT <{}: ~ ) >

                LIKE THAT~!

HOWEver, it PROBABLY AIN'T <{}: ~ ( >

THAT'S the PROBLEM behavior we've been TAUGHT by
EXXXPERT PROFESSIONAL TRAINERS and university
trained behaviorists <{}: ~ ( >

Fear of LHOWED noises is CAUSED BY abusive ignorameHOWES
PROFESSIONAL OBEDIENCE TRAININ <{}: ~ ( >

                  Oh, THAT'S EZ~!:

http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard/777witsendmanual.htm

There you will find ALL the FREE information you need
to pupperly handle raise and train your pets and family.
Just follow the instructions PRECISELY and ASK me if
you need any additional FREE HEELP <{}: ~ ) >

That so? CITES PLEASE?

That's INSANE. ALL temperament and behavior problems
CAN BE CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOIN
EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of
HOWE these PROFESSIONAL OBEDIENCE TRAINERS
and university trained behaviorists PREFER... otherWIZE,
the dog IS SICK and THEN will need to see a veterinarian.

You got it bassackwards, do behavior EXXXPERT <{}: ~ ( >

That's INSANE, CRUEL, and INEFFECTIVE  <{}: ~ ( >

That's ABSURD <{}: ~ ( >

You mean INSTEAD of usin EFFECTIVE Pavlovian and
Ericksonian CONditioning techniques AS TAUGHT in The
Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing,
Majestic Grand Master Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy, Goat,
Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Training Method Manual <{}: ~ ( >

INDEED? That's curiHOWES, AIN'T IT?

You mean, PUNISH the BAD behavior <{}: ~ ( >

B.F. Skinner: Re-evaluation of Punishment

Punishment, unfortunately traditionally overused,
actually has been proven not effective at long-
term behavioral change, and creatures will find
other ways of getting what it wants. In "Freedom
and the control of men" American Scholar, Winter
1955-56, 25, 47-65. 1956 he states:

If we no longer resort to torture in what we call
the civilized world, we nevertheless still make
extensive use of punitive techniques in both
domestic and foreign relations. And apparently for
good reasons. Nature if not God has created man
in such a way that he can be controlled punitively.

People quickly become skillful punishers (if not,
thereby, skillful controllers), whereas alternative
positive measures are not easily learned.

The need for punishment seems to have the support
of history, and alternative practices threaten the
cherished values of freedom and dignity.

Fear involved with punishment causes frustration:
with typical results loathing, hostility and apathy.
Skinner's teaching on the superiority of posittive
reinforcement's benefits for keeping desired behavior
have proved very valuable.

               ----------------------------

That so?

Seems you don't understand the DEFINITION of PUNISHMENT <{}: ~ ( >

INDEED? Hey Huso?

Have you taken your ANTI-PSYCHOTIC meds today?

THAT'S INSANE. Terrortorial markin occurs HOWEtside, in
the critters TERRORTORY, NOT inside his HOWES <{}: ~ ( >

Oh, GOODY~!

If you ain't taken your ANTI-PSYCHOTIC medications <{}: ~ ( >

That's ABSURD.

That's INSANE. Surgical sexual mutilation CAUSES phobic
behaviors like PISSIN in his own HOWES and aggression
and hyperactivity as well as LIFE THREATENING DIS-EASES.

Terrortory AIN'T GOT NUTHIN to do with anXXXIHOWESNESS
pissin in the critters own HOWES <{}: ~ () >

CITES PLEASE?

You're blowin ignorameHOWES smoke up HOWER arses, Huso <{}: ~ ( >

HOWER fellHOWE EXXXPERT dog trainers dogs and
bitches often sh.t MARK both inside and HOWEtside.

Of curse, on accHOWENTA that is a FEAR behavior
CAUSED BY surgical sexual mutilation and PROFESSIONAL
OBEDIENCE TRAINING METHODS <{}: ~ ( >

THAT'S INSANE.

                BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

THERE AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS DOMINANCE BEHAVIORS.

Any EXXXPERT talkin abHOWET DOMINANCE
is a dog abusin coward AS PROVEN through their
own POSTED CASE HISTORIES <{}: ~ ( >

             THAT'S INSANE:

"Unlike what you will find in Spay/Neuter Fact Sheets,
the health impacts of spay/neuter that are discussed in
this paper are all backed up with citations to the veterinary
medical literature. You can find the paper here:
http://escregistry.kattare.com/healthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf

http://www.neutering.org

Material that includes research data from 2006, 2005
was presented at ACC&D's Third International Symposium,
and part of the slideshows presentedare available here:
http://www.acc-d.org/2006%20Symposium%20Docs/Session%20I.pdf

Issues regarding previous assumptions on what neutering
does as a 'benefit' are pretty well challenged in this data above.

Alliance for Contraception in Cats and Dogs (ACC&D) is a
nonprofit 501C(3) group involved in attempting to study, define
and resolve some of the problems that currently exist
internationally as they regard issues of animal population control.

"More than 120 representatives from universities, animal welfare
organizations, foundations, companies, and government agencies
from 11 countries gathered to share information and plan for the
future". Main site: http://www.acc-d.org/

"On the negative side, neutering male dogs if done before maturity,
increases the risk of osteosarcoma (bone cancer) by a factor of 3.8;
this is a common ancer in medium/large and larger breeds with a
poor prognosis.

increases the risk of cardiac hemangiosarcoma by a factor of 1.6;
this is a common cancer and major cause of death in some breeds

triples the risk of hypothyroidism

increases the risk of geriatric cognitive impairment

triples the risk of obesity, a common health problem in dogs with
it the many associated health problems associated with obesity

· quadruples the small risk (<0.6%) of prostate cancer

· doubles the small risk (<1%) of urinary tract cancers

· increases the risk of orthopedic disorders

· increases the risk of adverse reactions to vaccinations

Hemangiosarcoma is a common cancer in dogs. It is a major
cause of death in some breeds, such as Salukis, French Bulldogs,
Irish Water Spaniels, Flat Coated Retrievers, Golden Retrievers,
Boxers, Afghan Hounds, English Setter, Scottish Terrier, Boston
Terrier, Bulldogs, and German Shepherd Dogs24.

In an aged-matched case controlled study, spayed females were
found to have a 2.2 times higher risk of splenic hemangiosarcoma
compared to intact females24.

A retrospective study of cardiac hemangiosarcoma risk factors
found a >5 times greater risk in spayed female dogs compared
to intact female dogs and a 1.6 times higher risk in neutered male
dogs compared to intact male dogs.25

The authors suggest a protective effect of sex hormones against
hemangiosarcoma, especially in females.

In breeds where hermangiosarcoma is an important cause of
death, the increased risk associated with spay/neuter is likely
one that should factor into decisions on whether or when to
sterilize a dog.

Hypothyroidism

Spay/neuter in dogs was found to be correlated with a three fold
increased risk of hypothyroidism  compared to intact dogs. The
researchers suggest  a cause-and-effect relationship26.

They wrote: "More important [than the mild direct impact on thyroid

function] in the association between [spaying and] neutering and
hypothyroidism may be the effect of sex hormones on the immune
system.

Castration increases the severity of autoimmune thyroiditis in mice"
which may explain the link between spay/neuter and hypothyroidism
in dogs.

"Dr. Spain, who has been recently involved in many studies assessing
the long-term risks and benefits of early-age neutering, presented
convincing data about the effects of spay/neuter on hip dysplasia,
cranial cruciate ligament rupture, long bone development, body
weight, diabetes, urinary tract infections, mammary cancer, and
several other conditions."

CONCLUSIONS

An objective reading of the veterinary medical literature reveals
a complex situation with respect to the longterm health impacts
of spay/neuter in dogs.

The evidence shows that spay/neuter correlates with both positive
AND adverse health effects in dogs. It also suggests how much we
really do not yet understand about this subject.

On balance, it appears that no compelling case can be made for
neutering most male dogs to prevent future health problems,
especially immature male dogs. The number of health problems
associated with neutering may exceed the associated health
benefits in most cases.

                  ----------------------------

                           SEE?

You MIGHT wanna GET THE HEEL HOWETA THIS BUSINESS.

                BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

You mean, in MAYBE UP TO 40% of the cases <{}: ~ ( >

The other 60% may INCREASE "terrortorial" HOWES PISSIN <{}: ~ () >

OH, so there AIN'T NO SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR and
SCIENTIFIC Pavlovian / Ericksonian behavior modification
DON'T WORK, Huso?

That's INSANE. Dogs an kats DO NOT mark over their own spots.

That so? Hey Huso? Don't you know that you can
SELL the enzymatic cleaners on your blog site?

INDEED?

So much for TERRORTORIAL markin, eh?

Then they'll just PISS elsewhere <{}: ~ ( >

Hey? THAT MIGHT WORK~!

Hey? THAT MIGHT WORK~!

Hey? THAT MIGHT WORK~!

Hey? THAT MIGHT WORK~!

Hey? THAT MIGHT WORK~!

Hey, Huso?

Wanna know what ALWAYS WORKS, NEARLY INSTANTLY?

Here's my manual:
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard/777witsendmanual.htm

There you will find ALL the FREE information you need
to pupperly handle raise and train your pets and family.
Just follow the instructions PRECISELY and ASK me if
you need any additional FREE HEELP <{}: ~ ) >

You mean, FEAR.

ALL FEAR is CAUSED BY MISHANDLING like
surgical sexual mutilation and lockin dogs in boxes
and PUNISHING innocent defenseless dumb critters
for BAD BEHAVIOR <{}: ~ ( >

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific
Management Of Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes --
excitation, inhibition and disinhibition,"  Ivan P. Pavlov

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

"All animals learn best through play." -- Konrad Lorenz

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

       The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
                              Never Change,
                     Or They'd Not Be Scientific
                      And Could Not Obtain
      Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Safe Effective Results
                For All Handler's And All Critters
                      And ALL Behaviors
         ALL OVER THE WHOWEL WILD WORLD,
                      NEARLY INSTANTLY,
   As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Simply Amazing
  Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
  SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
  Manual <{): ~ )  >

            In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
                      FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
                      SAME SAME SAME SAME,
           For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

         Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
              We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
                 And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

           ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems Are
                      CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

       "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
                  and you will know each other.
        If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
               and what you do not know you will fear.

                  What one fears, one destroys."
                      Chief Dan George

From: "Dr. Von" <drv...@mindspring.com>
Date: 12 Sep 2005 10:52:19 -0700
Subject: Re: Clicker Training for Dogs Newsgroups?

Jen wrote:

Jen, your request for a positive only dog training list,
needs the same answer as I give the folk who ask why I
don't have a list for what I do with biofeedback.

The method is so simple, and if you adopt it and relate
to your dog in such a positive manner you won't have any
more problems and there is no need for any more technique.

With Puppies we Ph.D. psychologists have been outflanked
by the entirely practical and effective methods described
in http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u.  Free download, nothing
sold, no mailing list, no distribution of your name. Free
support if needed.

With ADHD kids I provide similar information at
www.drbiofeedback.com and there is no need for
a list dealing with problems with kids.  Apply
as directed and have happy healthy doggies or
kiddies.

Not difficult.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

P.S. jerk and choke, spanking, shocking, scruff shake,
choke, chin chucks, all those negatives, denial of
affection etc. are harmful, dranging, obscenities.

You might want to consider Pavlov's typology to
understand "hard and soft dogs" - essentially he
taught that there are outward and inward responding
organisms in weak and strong nervous systems and if
you grasp this firmly you'll shape your training
methods effectively.

Punishment ALWAYS deranges behavior, and so is
recommended and given only by deranged humans.

Of course, it doesn't matter if we are talking
dogs, cats, people, sheep, even husbands.  Dr. Von

What's important is, "does Shamu reliably eat
the fish and not the pretty girl?"

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM

Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

                 ================

That so?

Oh, you mean TERRORIZE WON till IT gives up and
changes ITS FEAR AGGRESSION to SEIZURES like
MOST of HOWER fellHOWE dog lovers dogs got?

You mean, play favorites <{}: ~ ( >

Ahhh, THAT'S called SIBLING RIVALRY <{}: ~ ( >

From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike

                -----------------------

     From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
  The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).

--Larry

               CITES PLEASE?

                      BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Oh hey, lookey~!

Here's professor of ANAL-ytic behavior at UofWI marshall dermer:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

    And how do we know this aspect of his
    advice is right?

    Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
    His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

    (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
    few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
    ill-mannered, or just plain ill),

    --Marshall

      Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/
      University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee,
      WI 53201/ der...@uwm.edu
                    http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
       "Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"

Subject changed: JUMPING / MOUTHING
                            On PEOPLE (Ninnyboy)

26 From:  Marshall Dermer -
Date:  Tues, Aug 14 2001 8:15 pm
Email:   der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer)

In article <2e501ccd.0108141341.7f18d...@posting.google.com>
mattburns...@yahoo.com (Matthew Burnside) writes:

Dear Matt:

Many have offered Jerry constructive advice but
Jerry has failed to profit from it.

My sincere advice is to filter out Jerry's posts.

--Marshall

PS: I have put "Ninnyboy" in the header for many
of us filter posts with this term. The term indicates
that the post is about Jerry.

I have read rpdb for about five years. Consequently,
I urge newbies to attend to the civil and rational posts
of the rpdb regulars from whom I have learned much.

They include:
Ann (,Twzl, Sligo & Roy), Amy Dahl, Diane Blackman,
jdoee, Janet Boss, Susan Fraser, Avrama Gingold, Nancy
Holmes, Lynn Kosmakos, Bob Maida, MaryBeth, Ruth
Mays, Cindy Tittle Moore, Robin Nuttall, Denna Pace,
John Richardson, Sarah Sionnach, Ludwig Smith, Jane
Webb, and Terri Willis.

        *(EVERY WON of them got VERY LONG
        POSTED  CASE HISTORIES of INCURABLE
        MENTAL ILLNESS an HURTIN INTIMIDATIN
        an MURDERIN INNOCENT DEFENSELESS
        DUMB CRITTERS an LYIN abHOWET IT.)

    Marshall Lev Dermer/Associate Professor/Behavior
    Analysis Specialty/ Department of Psychology/
    University of Wisconsin--Milwaukee/Milwaukee,
    WI 53201
             der...@uwm.edu   http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer

  "If I am not for myself, who will be for me. But
  if I am only for myself, what am I?" _The Talmud_

              YOU'RE FRAUDS, drs p. and dermer!

             Either DEFEND your LIES, ABUSE And
             Degrees or get the heel HOWETA THIS
                             BUSINESS.

                Punishment Deranges Behavior.
        "NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
                        EXCEPT
                  To DERANGE Behaviors.

From: der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer) -
Date: 1998/08/28
Subject: Re: Puppy growls and snaps
In article <6s6ea0$8c...@uwm.edu> der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu
(Marshall Dermer) writes: In article <35E60819.65178...@pilot.msu.edu>

"Oops!  I would start by only holing
her mouth shut for say 5 sec.

At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral
function. But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy
by its neck and shake it a bit, and the frequency
of the biting decreases then you will have achieved
too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has
decreased; and two, you have established "No"
as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

                          **********
     IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?
                        ************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

          BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

              That's INSANE. Ain't it.

From: der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer)
Date: 1999/12/21
Subject: Re: Doc Dermer's offer

In article <tfR74.1$W64....@typhoon3.tampabay.rr.com> "Jerry Howe"
<j...@cfl.rr.com> writes:

First, I punish behavior, not dogs.

Second, I rarely issue corrections.

Third, as time goes on my dog uses
the pillow less frequently.

I would say he uses it about once a month.

Finally, I'm not really concerned about my dog's
masturbating; I don't find such dog behavior
offensive.

Eating dog poop, for me, is another story.

And the rate of that behavior has also
diminished with time. :-)

--Marshall

       ------------------------------------------

Coprophagia is CAUSED by your HOWEsbreakin
methods, therefore it can be EXXXTINGUISHED
NEARLY INSTANTLY, simply by DOIN EVERY
THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of
HOWE the EXXXPERTS recommend.

                    Here's FIVE cases of COPROPHAGIA
  CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOIN EVERYTHING
  EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you pathetic
  miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin MENTAL CASES PREFER.

                                LIKE THIS:

From: lolajo...@webtv.net (lolajo...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: My greyhound becoming bully of dogpark,help?
Date: 2004-01-07 01:15:04 PST

What is wrong with "The Puppy Wizard"?

I know his posts are a little wacky but his sound
distraction technique has worked very well for me.
After using traditional training with mixed results,
I was able to stop my dog from jumping up, eating
poop, begging from the table and excessive barking
using his methods.

Lolajoker.

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          AND LIKE  THIS:

Subject:        to Jerry Howe
From:           MArtog
Date:           Wed, Jan 17 2001 12:51 pm
Email:          MArtog <mar...@my-deja.com>

Just wanted to say thanks. The method you told me
to stop my dog from eating my other Labs sh-t in
the backyard has worked well. She has also improved
greatly when off leash out in the woods.

She still sniffs (ofcourse), but I rarely need to stop
her from anything else. I've always been diligent about
watching her, and cleaning up the yard, but ya just
can't be there every second. And she is quick!

So, thanks again for the advice.

I feel more confident now when I turn my back.

And to all you folks going yea, sure, right.

THIS IS NOT A TROLL POST.

HE gave me advice. It worked. Plain and simple.

Nothing more, nothing less.

So Jerry, allthough I don't lurk here, I'm sure
you're still putting up with DogButt and his ilk.

So good keep up the good work!

Of course DogButt will read this, even thoe it doesn't
have his name on it. Cause he thinks he owns the group.

So to you DogButt.........Well,,,,never mind.

You're already a loser. I don't need to tell you that.

Please feel free to correct my spelling/grammer, etc.
Yes, goodbye, good riddance, blah blah blah.

Later.....
MArtog

      ----------------------------

          AND LIKE  THIS:

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbou...@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Dog eats poo!
Date: 2000-12-05 00:40:48 PST

I used sound distraction to stop my 2 dogs eating cow poo
during walkies. I posted here a while ago explaining how I
managed to control them from eating it but there were a lot
of sceptics.  If your interested I'll be glad to tell you
what worked for me, just let me know and I'll post a thread
on this NG.

Paul
             -----------------

          AND LIKE  THIS:

From:           Paul B
Date:           Sat, Oct 21 2000 2:18 am
Email:          "Paul B" <NOSPAMpaulbou...@clear.net.nz>

The sound distraction and praise method he uses is VERY effective,
I use those techniques on my dogs and the results are great.  From
teaching a dog to recall to preventing unwanted behaviours (sh.t
eating, eating the cats food, growling when taking a bone from a
dog, jumping up, even escaping from the property, any behaviour).

To say sound distraction and praise methods don't work is pure
ignorance.

I can understand you not liking Jerry and being pissed off with
the posts he submits but please keep things in context and don't
slam a technique just because you can't stand the person suggesting
using it.

Paul.

               ------------

          AND LIKE  THIS:

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.

I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".

Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).

The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point
at the mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".

That made him afraid to relieve himself in the
house or infront of me.

After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.

When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".

This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking.  That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help.

You've been a blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

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          AND LIKE  THIS:

From:           Paul
Date:           Wed, Dec 6 2000 12:00 am
Email:          "Paul B" <NOSPAMpaulbou...@clear.net.nz>

I'm not exactly sure why Jerry is saying to ignore me, it's his
advice that I found was the most successful.  During walks in a
particular park the dogs would come across fresh cow pats and
munch away happily.

To stop this I'd set them up, I'd find a nice fresh cow turd and
stand next to it, when the dogs came over and saw it they would
start to munch, at the onset of this I'd chuck a throw chain near
the dog to distract it and praise straight away, the reason for
the praise is the dog stops eating as soon as it hears the
distraction so I'm praising that behaviour, the not eating.

I'd set them up again and repeat, but make the sound come from
a  different direction, maybe the first time chuck the chain to
the right of the dog, the next time to the left, then behind etc,
it's the randomness that is effective and always sincerely praise
immediately.

Now when I walk through the park they leave the turds alone,
they aren't interested in them anymore due to the distraction
training.  Don't let the dog know that you made the sound, the
sound just "occurs" this is important as it removes "you" out
of the problem.

Paul

                --------------------

                  AND LIKE  THIS:

Subject:       Sweet Coprophagia

From: Lynn
Date: Wed, Sep 18 2002 10:01 pm
Email: roudyre...@yahoo.com (Lynn)

I hate to be in such agreement all the time, but am excited
about Coco the Rotti we have boarded here. Yes she made my
job easier (no poo to pick up) as at her home she eats poo
due to major anxiety and being punished with a stick for it.
She was living on it just about.

It was gross, and she is a beautiful dog.

I decided to change this. It has taken 6 days for HER to
get an appetite and I PICK up poo now. We have yard kennels
here, so it's hard to catch every dog doing everything. I
took all the pressure off her. SHE is using a dog house,
not cowering at her gate. SHE is breaking the habit of body
blocking me so I cannot leave her area. SHE is now playing
ike a normal doggie.

What did I do?  Not much. Just ask as the other's are doing,
and be patient. Not making a big deal out of behavior she is
used to being punished for.

I can snap a finger now to distract her, and say "Coco
back good girl"  I move into Hot and Cold on a bad day.
The owner just got done putting up a security door due
to her taking out the old one. The dog has quit blocking
me from getting in my door when out for play. My job is
getting easier, it's a pain to be rushed by a pack of
dogs all trying to come in.

Call the dogs puppets, they don't care!

Lynn

                --------------------------

                     AND LIKE THIS:

From:           MArtog
Date:           Thurs, Jan 18 2001 7:51 am
Email:          MArtog <mar...@my-deja.com>
In article <3A65FE5F.70D8D...@Rosenblatt.com>,

Jos...@Rosenblatt.com wrote:

Last reply/post from me just to explain to Joshua.
Then I'm outta here(yippee).

No I was not trying to TROLL. I wanted to post a
thank you to Jerry. That's it. Never said I didn't
want anyone else to read it. I did say that I knew
DogButt would read it even thoe it wasn't for him.
He thinks everything in here is his business.

So he had to post some childish response because he
can't help it. He is sooo predictable. He will read
this too and again post a childish response. If he
doesn't, it will show a strength of will that I don't
believe he has.

Not trying to be a rat or anything else. I clearly said
what I wanted to say about Jerry's help with my dog problem.

It is sad that this group is still so antagonistic all the time.

There is a lot of knowledge here, but it is rarely
disseminated in a kindly manner. Most newbies get
ran off in fairly short order, and go over to r.p.d.breeds
where people are much freindlier. Seems like most
posters in here have been around each other too long.

Some sort of internet cabin fever or something (IMHO).

Anyway, I won't be reading your's or DogButt's reply. So feel
free to go at each other's throats as usual,flame me and my
post, whatever.

Again, thanks Jerry and all of you have a nice day......
well except you DogButt!

Maybe Jerry can help you stop eating sh-t!

BYE!

                  ------------------------------

     SEE? SEE?? SEE??? SEE???? SEE?????

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

   "We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
   Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
   God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
   Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent=3DAD,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts =3DADto
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer

            -------------

From: Rocky <2dogsREM...@rocky-dog.com.invalid>
Date: 24 Jul 2004 04:00:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?

Cam said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

You are very wrong.
--
--Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

Make room, even if the dresser or a side table has to go away
for a while.  This is an important bonding time.
--
--Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

        "Rocky" <2...@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
        news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133.1.4...
         >
         > Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
         > > When you compare using sound and
         > > praise to solve a problem with using
         > > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
         > > how can you criticize the use of sound?

         > There's nothing more to be said, then.
         > You've made up your mind.

         > But you've impressed me by mentioning
         > that you're a professor with 30 years of
         > experience.
\
         > So, can you cite some examples of
         > people recommending "shock collars,
         > hanging, and punishment"?
         > --
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.
         >
         >> I do know that hitting, hurting your dog
         >> will often make the dog either aggressive
         >> or a fear biter, neither of which we want
         >> to do.
         >
         > And neither does anyone else, Jerome.
         > No matter what Jerry Howe states.
         >
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.
         >
         > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
         > doubt, please provide a quote (an
         > original quote, not from one of Jerry
         > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
         > shows a regular poster promoting or
         > using an abusive form of training.
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.
         >
         > So, can you cite some examples of
         > people recommending "shock collars,
         > hanging, and punishment"?
         > --
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.
         >
         >  What's the point, but: Refer me to those posts of
         >  which you have read so many.  While you're going
         >  through them, point out those which recommend
         >  shocking, and pinching, and beating.  Thank you.
         > --
         > -Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

         > Rocky wrote:
         > "Deltones" <vibrov...@hotmail.com> said in
         > rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
         >
         > > After your defense of "Limited" choking, what
         > > would be the point? Where I come from, choking
         > > is choking. It's never limited.
         >
         > So, you can't point out abuse where none occurs.
         > Thank you for your contribution.
         >-
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

         From: Rocky (2...@rocky-dog.com)
         Subject: Re: How to handle aggressive situations
         Date: 2004-10-19 19:42:54 PST

         Melanie L Chang said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

        > I try really hard not to yell.  The times that I have,
        > Solo joined in and then lunged to the end of the
        >leash.

        Or, at the other end of the spectrum, Rocky cowers,
        thinking I'm angry at him - a reason I don't "yuk out"
        others' dogs at agility trials or training.
        --
        --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

                         ---------------

         Sometimes my "voice of god" startles human
         and dog, especially when the human didn't
         see the inappropriate behaviour. --Matt.
         Rocky's a Dog.

       "Rocky" <2...@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
       news:Xns92C1EC10BFE7australianshepherdca@130.133.1.4...
         Rosa Palmén wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

         > Anybody else got bilingual dogs?

         Long ago my Hebrew was pretty good - but now I
         only use "Chutza"(throat clearing 'ch') - "Out" when
         it's reallyreally important that my dogs get away from
         something.

   "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It A Sharp
   Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know Jack Wouldn't
   Have Done It If He Thought Solo Couldn't Take It.  I Still
   Crate Him Because Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My
   Cat," Melanie Lee Chang *  mch...@lppi.ucsf.edu
   Canine Behavioral Genetics Project
   University of California, San Francisco
   http://psych.ucsf.edu/K9BehavioralGenetics/

       From: Rocky <2...@rocky-dog.com>
       Date: 10 Jun 2003 18:00:45 GMT
       Subject: Re: Absolutely abysmal agility day

       Robin Nuttall said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior

       > One of the things that frustrates me the most about
       > agility is that people seem to think that ALL dogs
       > are fragile, shrinking flowers who cannot be
       > corrected in any way.

       Well, maybe one day -- when Friday doesn't take
       correction so much to heart -- I'll try something
       different.  Right now, he's just getting the confidence
       to work a few jumps ahead of me.
       --
       --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

"I crate Rocky, even though he's 8.5 years old, but
only when I'm gone during summertime days -
maybe an hour at the most. (Other than hot days,
my dogs are always with me.)

While Friday has been totally reliable unsupervised
from the day I got him from a rescue, Rocky has not.

Rocky will go looking for food even in areas where
there's no possibility of food.

The good thing is that he likes his crate, runs for
it when I ask, and gets food when he's in it.
--
--Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

              BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAA!!!

      From: Rocky (mbon...@sunada.com)
      Subject: Re: Leg Humper
      Date: 1999/09/14

      Bioso...@aol.com (Jerry Howe) wrote in
      <37D698CF.405B0...@bellsouth.net>:

      > By "sticking your knee up," I can only presume
      > that you are suggesting that the people knee the
      > dog in the chest. If  that's what you meant, just
      > say it, instead of beating around the bush to avoid
      > criticism from people like me. That kind of crap has
      > got to stop, and that's why I'm here, to help wean
      > you guys off of the abuse and into the proper methods
      > of dealing with behavior problems.

      Jerry, I was appreciating your explanation
      up until this last paragraph.

      Why did you blow it?

      --Matt

      From: Rocky <2...@rocky-dog.com>
      Date: 16 Sep 2003 03:47:41 GMT
      Subject: Re: Dominant Agressive Puppy????

      Nessa said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

      > the only thing I remember learning from a spanking
      > was to run faster than my dad and NOT GET
      > CAUGHT.   so what does that say?

      I learned to put a comic book down the back of my
      pants.  And sometimes my parents pretended not to
      notice.  In retrospect, that's pretty cool.
      --
      --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

         "Rocky" <2...@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
news:Xns92FE730764918australianshepherdca@130.133.1.4...
        > Melinda Shore wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
         >
         > > But he's the one producing the training
         > > MATTerial.

         > Ack.  You just gave him some moore ammunition.
         > --
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

          Oh? You mean LIKE THIS, matty?:

From: Rocky <2...@rocky-dog.com>
Date: 15 May 2005 16:03:05 GMT

Subject: Re: What does "bupkis" really mean

shelly said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Hmm.  You've got a point.  Rocky is dog-dominant, a
surprise to almost everyone - some of whom know him
very well.  I wonder how well Lucy reads dog?  If she
can't, she'd get some ugly surprises.
--
--Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

       BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAHAAA!!!

From: Rocky <2...@rocky-dog.com>
Date: 24 Mar 2005 17:16:47
Subject: Re: help with identifing a dog breed

 A mature dog comfortable in its surroundings often
 won't need to physically assert its dominance.
--
--Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

From: Rocky <2...@rocky-dog.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:58:38 GMT
A Useful Dog

... Rocky, OTOH, I crate when a new dog is introduced -
while he's quick to back off in times of trouble, he's
fairly dominant. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAHAAAA!!!

         "dallygirl" <kwickw...@hotmail.com> said in
         rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

         > choke chains are outdated and barbaric in many
         > cases causing more harm than good.

         Back at you with flat buckle collars.  These are an
         incredibly abused training tool, what with the number
         of handlers I see pulling back and jerking on the leash
         with both hands.

         It's a good thing that most of us are here because of
         dogs' well-being and not an agenda.
         --
         --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

                  =======================

                     BWEEEEAHAHAHHAAA!!!

                      ANY QUESTIONS, People?

                          "Ye shall know the truth,
                   and the truth shall make you mad." -
                               ~Aldous Huxley.

            "Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
            "Against stupidity the Gods themselves  contend in vain!"
                                 -Friedrich Schiller.

                                      INDEEDY.

       AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!

                               In Love And Light,
                  I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
                   The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
                                   Jerry Howe,
        The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
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             SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >

                  HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >

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Human And Animal Behavior
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