Keep him in a room of his own with a litter box, bed, food, and water. See
if he will use the box if restricted to a smaller space. He is still
recuperating and it will take time for him not to feel uncomfortable. I
would also get a very large litter box for him (if you don't have one
already). I think in time he will be OK. My neighbor's cat had the same
surgery (shortening of the penis) and he needed to restrict the cat's space
until he was fully healed. If he consistently uses the box, you can
gradually increase his space.
Gail

Of cuorse it still hurts and the stitches itch like mad and the urine is
also very irritating to raw tissue.  Helping Max keep it clean is very
important.  How would you like a Elizibetahn collar around your neck?

The poor kitty needs time.  You cannot rush these things.  From what you say
he has had surgery when?  Less than a week ago?  You can't expect miracles.

Things will begin to improve soon.  You are past the half way point.  Ask
your vet about what you can apply to the wound.  I am thinking something
like polysporin would be harmless enough.  Maybe a cortisone cream if they
say it's ok.  Just getting the urine off the skin will help his irritation
problem.  Remember cats clean themselves after peeing and he can't do that
now.  Help him out.

Relax and don't try to look to far into the future.  Its too early to tell
what will happen but in almost all of these cases the cat does quite well.
It wouldn't hurt to take Max in for an exam either.

Paul

HOWEDY mc,

Welcome to The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely
Simply Amazing, Majestic Grand Master Puppy, Child,
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Here's my manual:
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There you will find ALL the FREE information you need
to pupperly handle raise and train your pets and family.
Just follow the instructions PRECISELY and ASK me if
you need any additional FREE HEELP <{}: ~ ) >

That so? You mean you've CURED the problem you came here with?

INDEEDY~!

Your fellHOWE kat lovers are a very friendly, close knit group of
devoted kat lovers who likeWIZE have the SAME PROBLEMS
for the SAME REASONS <{}: ~ ( >

Do you have a very long case history of chronic incurable
mental illness, compulsive lying, and hurting intimidating
and murderin innocent defenseless dumb critters like your
newfHOWEND pals?

INDEED?

Well then, the same methods apply to children as they do kats an dogs.

INDEEDY~!

Of curse <{}: ~ ( >

You mean, the MENTAL PATIENTS who HURT INTIMIDATE
SURGICALLY SEXUALLY and DIGITALLY MUTILATE an
MURDER their kats <{}: ~ ( >

Yeah. "That horrible awful surgery for the crystal issue"
is the result of STRESS from toxic veterinary malpractice,
garbage commercial kat food and MISHANDLING.

That so?

Oh, that's EZ to fix. Here's a couple of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Training Method Manual Students
tellin you HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY and FOR FREE:

"The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
schreef inbericht
news:DLpzb.2640$Qd6.1560@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

My dog (a 1 year old Yellow Lab) was biting his tail
at the root (Vet said his anal gland was blocked, and
was causing an itch).

After squeezing it, he still wouldn't stop biting his
tail. The vet advised a neck-funnel (don't know wat
you US-guy's call those) so he couldn't reach his butt.

I hate those things, i think they will drive a dog nuts.

I tried the wits end method. (difficult to read such a long
textfile if English is not your native language) Luckily this
is without all the "HOWE's" etc.so at least it's readable for
somebody like me.

The minute he started to bite i trew my key's
next to him on the floor, and praised him (he
stopped biting and looked up when he heard
the sound) I did this 7 times,

after that the tailbiting completely stopped.
Just give the wits end method a try.

One of the possible downloadlocations
is http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

Hennie van Dalen
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11

            ----------------------------

"Paul B" <ab...@clear.net.nz> schreef in bericht
news:3ff50d83@clear.net.nz...

The same thing worked with my lab licking/chewing
problem too. He had an itch due to blocked anal glands
and started chewing and licking his tail at the root.

After the glands were squeezed, and the itch was
gone he still wouldn't stop. (because the place he
chewed raw was itching)

After some training (roughly the same methode as
yours) he stopped.

--
Hennie van Dalen
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/

           --------------------------------------

That's ABSURD.

THAT'S HOWE COME IT'S ABSURD.

Well then, you'd be in EXXXCELLENT company~!

Many of your fellHOWE pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic
life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental cases
put underpants on their dogs an kats to prevent their anxiety
pissin all over their HOWES <{}: ~ ( >

Yeah. LUCKY thing you love him. Many of your fellHOWE
pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal murderin punk
thug coward active accute chronic life long incurable malignant
maliciHOWES mental cases MURDER their kats over this.

Your kat gets SCARED when the collar bangs into stuff.

You can EXXXTINGUISH his fear NEARLY INSTANTLY
just like HOWE you can EXXXTINGUISH his urinary problems,
simply by PRAISING him when he has a problem like missin
his litter box or bangin into a wall wearin that collar.

Yeah. He needs NON PHYSICAL praise and reassurance.

There's ONLY TWO *(2) reasons HOWE COME a dog or
kat would have HOWEsbreakin problems:

1. He's SICK

OR

2. He's UNHAPPY.

Your kat's "DIS-EASE" AIN'T causin him to miss the litterbox.

INDEED?

LUCKY THING you can CURE that problem NEARLY
INSTANTLY using the HOWEsbreakin advice in your
own 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Training Method
Manual <{}: ~ ) >

                  AND LIKE THIS:

A. S. Neill, Tthe Famous Founder of The Summerhill
School, Used To Cure Delinquent Children Way Back
In The 1950's By Paying Them For Every Time They
Wet The Bed Or Broke A Pane Of Glass And Their
Behaviour Would Stop, - As If By MAGICK!

              AND LIKE THIS:

The Embry Study:

"While some may find it strange that reprimands
might increase the chances of a child going into
the street, the literature on the experimental analysis
of behavior is replete with examples of how "attention
to inappropriate behavior" increases the chances of
more inappropriate behavior.

Thus, suggestions to parents that they talk to or reason
with their children about dashing into the street will
likely to have the opposite impact.

Reprimands do not punish unsafe behavior; they reward it."

Source:

"Reducing the Risk of Pedestrian Accidents to
Preschoolers by Parent Training and Symbolic
Modeling for Children: An Experimental Analysis
in the Natural Environment. Research Report
Number 2 of the Safe-Playing Project."

                    --------------------

Naaaah?

BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Well then, you're in EXXXCELLENT company~!

INDEEDY~!

You mean when he AIN'T PISSIN all over your HOWES from STRESS.

LUCKY THING YOU LOVE HIM SO MUCH~!

BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

THAT'S INSANE. Dogs an kats DO NOT mark over their
own spots. They sh.t an piss in their own HOWESES on
accHOWENTA THEY AIN'T HAPPY:

          Why Do You Reward The Dog For Being Bad?
                                   Was:
       Punish Dogs Children SP-HOWESES With PRAISE,
         Unconditional LOVE, TRUST, And RESPECT
                                <{) ; -  )   >

Always praise the dog to show him that you affectionally
support or love him. Praising the dog has nothing to do
with what he has just done, it has to do with your
relationship with him.

"Good dog" means "I love you, dog".

If the dog is anxious, then you make certain that he
knows that he is in a safe and trusting environment.
You praise and admire him.

Correction is the opposite signal, you are my enemy,
and this results, quite naturally, in the dog behaving
aggresively - why not, you've declared that you are his
enemy.

Why does paradoxical reward work?

The dog defecates on the floor.  You come up and say
"Good Dog" you love and praise him.

THE DOG KNOWS YOU LOVE HIM.

The dog defecates on the floor because he is anxious.
No wild wolf, jackal, or coyote defecates in his den.
If he defecates in his den its because a bear is outside
trying to get in and eat him.

The dog knows that it is stupid to
defecate where he eats or sleeps.

Don't you?

If the dog feels safe he'll behave as if he
is safe, no pooping on the living room floor.

Almost all maladaptive behavior is due to fear, anxiety,
expectation of disaster. Correct the situation, and the
dog behaves fluently like a ..... Dog!

Punishment deranges behavior, it is never never never appropriate.

Love the dog.

Praise is never punishment, praise is like giving a
piece of steak. If you give a piece of steak to a dog
after he defecates on the floor he'll stop defecating
on the floor.

Fondly, Dr. Von

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine you may find my resume
in Who's Who in the S & SE USA since 1982, and in the
big books, Who's Who in the USA, WW in the World,
WW in Medicine etc, and WW in Science and Technology,
since that date.

These are the Marquis Publications, the "real" WW,
and you can't get yourself into them.

GvH
                            --------------------

You think he'll LIKE that?

OR do you think he'll see it as PUNISHMENT?:

B.F. Skinner: Re-evaluation of Punishment

Punishment, unfortunately traditionally overused,
actually has been proven not effective at long-
term behavioral change, and creatures will find
other ways of getting what it wants. In "Freedom
and the control of men" American Scholar, Winter
1955-56, 25, 47-65. 1956 he states:

If we no longer resort to torture in what we call
the civilized world, we nevertheless still make
extensive use of punitive techniques in both
domestic and foreign relations. And apparently for
good reasons. Nature if not God has created man
in such a way that he can be controlled punitively.

People quickly become skillful punishers (if not,
thereby, skillful controllers), whereas alternative
positive measures are not easily learned.

The need for punishment seems to have the support
of history, and alternative practices threaten the
cherished values of freedom and dignity.

Fear involved with punishment causes frustration:
with typical results loathing, hostility and apathy.
Skinner's teaching on the superiority of posittive
reinforcement's benefits for keeping desired behavior
have proved very valuable.

               ----------------------------

BWEEEAAAHAAAA~!~!~!

It works temporarily on *maybe* 50% of the kats.

Well, unless you'd prefer to GET USED TO IT, you'll
have to DO EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY
OPPOSITE of HOWE you been doin it and HOWE your
newfHOWEND fellHOWE pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active
accute chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
mental case pals recommend.

Well, you're in EXXXCELLENT company~!

So much for all yournewfHOWEND fellHOWE pathetic
miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal murderin punk thug
coward active accute chronic life long incurable malignant
maliciHOWES mental case pal's ADVICE, eh??

          BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Well, LUCKY THING you NHOWE know EXXXACTLY
PRECISELY HOWE to CURE his problem <{}: ~ ) >

                    LIKE THIS:

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

                  AND LIKE THIS:

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH,
That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And
Readily Be Done Using TLC.  Tender Loving Care Is At The
Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggies.

                  AND LIKE THIS:

"All animals learn best through play," Lorenz.

                  AND LIKE THIS:

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVERY LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge,
demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon
that an expected reward not received is experienced
as a punishment and can produce extensive and
persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)."

                  AND LIKE THIS:

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

                  AND LIKE THIS:

"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavoir and
learning immediately deteriorated.

Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement
model" proposed by Skinner (1963) are no more well
established in research than the various dynamic therapists.
Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of programmed
systems for learning; 2) reinforcement; 3) cognitive dissonance;
and 4) motivation, MOST SURELY DEMOLISH the claims
of operant programers."

                              ----------------------

                                       SEE?

                          "Ye shall know the truth,
                   and the truth shall make you mad." -
                               ~Aldous Huxley.

            "Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
            "Against stupidity the Gods themselves  contend in vain!"
                                 -Friedrich Schiller.

                                      INDEEDY.

       AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!

                               In Love And Light,
                  I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
                   The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
                                   Jerry Howe,
        The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
                                 A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
                                  G-R-A-N-D
       Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
             SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >

                  HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >

Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
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Suddenly, without warning, mc exclaimed (2/25/2008 4:57 AM):

I hope you and Max get through this difficult time soon.  I have one bit
of advise, based on when Meep had one of those collars:  Get a clear one.

Meep could not adjust to the usual collar provided at the vet, so I went
to Petsmart (I think) and got a clear one - since she can see through
it, she was much better at avoiding obstacles.  She still hated the
thing, but getting around and living with it was a vast improvement over
the opaque one.

jmc