Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2008
Cat has persistent cough, weak, some vomiting
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Jason Carlton - 11 Feb 2008 03:52 GMT Before I begin, let me mention that I do not have a trustworthy local vet. It's a long story, but I live in rural North Carolina, and I lost all faith in my vet when he diagnosed my senior dog with an incredibly rare disease that has never existed in this area, when in fact she had a common uterine infection... conveniently, we spent roughly $2000 treating a disease that didn't exist, and I still believe that this difference in cost is why it was misdiagnosed.
So while I plan to take my cat to the vet tomorrow (Monday), I really need to have an idea of what the possibilities are, so that I don't get snowballed again.
I have a cat that's just over 6 years old. Male, neutered, and exclusively indoors (as are all of my pets; another cat and a dog). About 6 or 8 weeks ago, he developed what felt like a respiratory infection. He would cough regularly (wet, like he was coughing up a hairball), was very lethargic, and threw up a few times (not every day; maybe once every 2 or 3 days). He would eat at his regular times, but not as much, and seemed not to drink as much (although with 2 cats sharing a water bowl, it's hard to be sure).
At first I just thought that he had a nasty hairball, and after a few days he went back to normal so I assumed that it had passed. I didn't see that he had coughed anything up, but I thought it may have found its way to the litter box or, gross, my dog may have eaten it.
After a few weeks of normal activity, on Friday those same symptoms returned, although they seem worse this time. He's back to being weak and lethargic, and he has slept pretty much all weekend although he seems to have no problem going downstairs to the litter box and food. If I pick him up, though, it immediately triggers a coughing fit. He's only vomited once, but it seems like a lot; I wasn't home, but the clean-up was larger than usual. It was watery with a little bit of white foam, not really yellow.
It's also worth mentioned that he usually spends his days in my office, either on my lap or watching my fish tank, but since he's gotten sick he stays in one of the unused rooms in the basement, where it's colder and darker. There's also a blanket here that he likes to suck on, so I'm not sure if he's drawn to the temperature, darkness, or just the blanket.
I can't get a good listen to his heart, but he does purr a lot (louder than usual, too). His chest heaves constantly, though, as if he's having a hard time breathing, but I can't be sure about that because these cats are so dramatic, anyway.
He doesn't seem to be wet around his nose, but he does have a small amount of brown stain at the corners of his eyes. His eyes aren't cloudy that I can tell, either.
I haven't changed his diet at all. Since the cats were little, I've always rotated between Meow Mix indoor formula and Meow Mix hairball control formula. For treats, I usually give Whiskas. However, it has been colder than normal in my area lately.
Do these symptoms sound like anything recognizable to you guys?
TIA,
Jason
cybercat - 11 Feb 2008 04:06 GMT > About 6 or 8 weeks ago, he developed what felt like a respiratory > infection. He would cough regularly (wet, like he was coughing up a Jesus.
Noon Cat Nick - 11 Feb 2008 04:48 GMT > Before I begin, let me mention that I do not have a trustworthy local > vet. It's a long story, but I live in rural North Carolina, and I lost [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Jason This could be a number of unsavory things. However, you wrote that he likes to suck on a blanket. It's quite possible he could have ingested some of the fabric from that blanket, and it's become clogged in his digestive tract. It also presents the possibility of contracting intestinal parasites, although that would ordinarily be accompanied by diarrhea,
I had been thinking he might have feline infectious peritonitis, a fatal disease with no cure. But diarrhea is a symptom of that disorder, and you don't mention that as a symptom. Still, it might be worth having him tested for the FIP virus, just in case. HTH.
Jason Carlton - 11 Feb 2008 05:42 GMT > This could be a number of unsavory things. However, you wrote that he > likes to suck on a blanket. It's quite possible he could have ingested [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you don't mention that as a symptom. Still, it might be worth having him > tested for the FIP virus, just in case. HTH. The two cats share a litter box, so it's hard tell if this one is experiencing constipation or anything like that. I haven't witnessed him straining, though. He did have a short-lived issue with diarrhea on Friday (by which I mean, 2 or 3 small drops beside the litter box), but his movements seem normal now. There is less of it, though, which I attributed to his eating less.
The blanket he's sucking on is a knit afghan that he's had since he was a kitten. His mother disappeared before he and his brother were weaned, and I understand that the desire to suck and knead on a blanket is common in those cases. Since the blanket hasn't been exposed to anything, either, I would think that it would be unlikely for him to gain a parasite from it... although I suspect that would be the easiest to treat.
I'll definitely have him tested for FIP. The symptoms do sound similar, but they're vague enough that I can't be sure. However, considering he is a young, indoor-only cat, and no other animal has been around him other than other indoor-only animals, this is (allegedly) pretty rare.
I originally suspected an upper respiratory infection, but he's not sneezing, and to the best of my knowledge he doesn't have a runny nose or any other discharge. Are these symptoms ALWAYS in occurence with a respiratory infection?
Noon Cat Nick - 11 Feb 2008 05:58 GMT > I originally suspected an upper respiratory infection, but he's not > sneezing, and to the best of my knowledge he doesn't have a runny nose > or any other discharge. Are these symptoms ALWAYS in occurence with a > respiratory infection? Yes, AFAIK.
Phil P. - 11 Feb 2008 05:51 GMT Still, it might be worth having him
> tested for the FIP virus, just in case. HTH. There is no test for the "FIP virus". The FCoV antibody titer and the "FIP Specific" do not distinguish FECV from the mutated FIP-causing virus. Effusive (wet) FIP may be easier to diagnose based on the properties of the fluid- however the OP did not mention a distended abdomen.
Phil
Noon Cat Nick - 11 Feb 2008 05:59 GMT > Still, it might be worth having him > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Phil You're right. Mea culpa.
Phil P. - 11 Feb 2008 06:06 GMT > > Still, it might be worth having him > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You're right. Mea culpa. Don't feel bad- Antech Diagnostics has half the veterinary profession brainwashed with their bogus "FIP Specific" test.
Phil
Jason Carlton - 11 Feb 2008 11:22 GMT > Still, it might be worth having him > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Phil You're exactly right, Phil, his abdomen is normal. Although I've been researching, and I understand that a distended abdomen isn't always a symptom.
- J
Phil P. - 11 Feb 2008 15:32 GMT On Feb 11, 12:51 am, "Phil P." <p...@maxshouse.com> wrote:
> "Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEG...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:xsQrj.26628$9j6.4249@attbi_s22... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> There is no test for the "FIP virus". The FCoV antibody titer and the "FIP
>> Specific" do not distinguish FECV from the mutated FIP-causing virus. >> Effusive (wet) FIP may be easier to diagnose based on the properties of the >> fluid- however the OP did not mention a distended abdomen. >> >> Phil
>You're exactly right, Phil, his abdomen is normal. Although I've been >researching, and I understand that a distended abdomen isn't always a >symptom. There are two forms of FIP; effusive (wet) and noneffusive (dry). The dry form usually doesn't produce enough or any fluid to distend the abdomen. This is one of the reasons why the dry form is so hard to diagnose and why so many so-called "FIP tests" have been developed- of which none can diagnose the dry form.
Phil
Xerces & Mr.Katsky - 11 Feb 2008 06:53 GMT This is also suggestive of feline calicivirus pneumonia, a treatable illness but one with a multiplicity of potentially more serious complications. He may have a fever and if so he needs a warm dry environment. From what you describe he is having a hard time breathing and your vet may want to keep him for a few days in an oxygen rich enviornmental chamber during treatment.
We had a cat with pneumonia several years ago. Although the disease is communicable, the other cats never caught pneumonia from her. She had to spend two long and unpleasant weeks in the clinic in a no-fun oxygen enriched enclosure on antibiotics. She was as good as new a month or so later and went on to live another 11 happy years before she died just short of her 20th birthday of what they described at the time as "old age".
Phil P. - 11 Feb 2008 05:49 GMT > Before I begin, let me mention that I do not have a trustworthy local > vet. It's a long story, but I live in rural North Carolina, and I lost [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Do these symptoms sound like anything recognizable to you guys? Could be asthma/bronchitis or CHF secondary to HCM. His difficulty in breathing and difficult to auscultate may be due to pulmonary edema (muffles heart sounds).
He needs to see a vet immediately- if not sooner.
Good luck,
Phil
Jason Carlton - 11 Feb 2008 11:28 GMT > > Before I begin, let me mention that I do not have a trustworthy local > > vet. It's a long story, but I live in rural North Carolina, and I lost [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I have an update that, from here, seems to be good news. Note to the quesy, this post will sound a tad gross.
I left the temperature up and made my boy a soft bed next to mine, so that I could keep a close eye on him. At around 6am, he started to throw up, and I started patting him ever-so-gently on the back.
Up came what can only be described as a 6" long hairball! I looked closely for blood, yellow infection, etc, but all I really see is partially digested food, hair, and a few pieces of what looks like straw (presumably from my broom). The color is light brown, and it's not really very wet, although he did spit up a little phlegm afterwards.
Almost immediately (and I mean within seconds), he had more energy. He jogged downstairs (jogged, not walked) to climb to the back of a chair and look out a window, which he hasn't done in days, so he obviously feels a ton better. He's also breathing more normally and seems more alert.
I'm still taking him to the vet, and I've saved the refuse so that I can hand it over. But, for anyone concerned, it really seems like nothing more than a very serious hairball. With any luck, Noon Cat Nick was right on target with his theory about the blanket fibers.
If it turns out that the vet disagrees, then I'll keep you posted. Until then,
Jason
Phil P. - 11 Feb 2008 15:32 GMT On Feb 11, 12:49 am, "Phil P." <p...@maxshouse.com> wrote:
> "Jason Carlton" <jwcarl...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:5b0be0b7-68e0-4031-8752-f965ac6e74cc@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>I'm still taking him to the vet, and I've saved the refuse so that I >can hand it over. But, for anyone concerned, it really seems like >nothing more than a very serious hairball. With any luck, Noon Cat >Nick was right on target with his theory about the blanket fibers.
>If it turns out that the vet disagrees, then I'll keep you posted. >Until then,
>Jason Sometimes I'm a lot happier when I'm wrong than when I'm right. I really hope this is one of those times.
Phil
Rene S. - 11 Feb 2008 16:03 GMT > Up came what can only be described as a 6" long hairball! I looked > closely for blood, yellow infection, etc, but all I really see is > partially digested food, hair, and a few pieces of what looks like > straw (presumably from my broom). The color is light brown, and it's > not really very wet, although he did spit up a little phlegm > afterwards.
> I'm still taking him to the vet, and I've saved the refuse so that I > can hand it over. But, for anyone concerned, it really seems like > nothing more than a very serious hairball. With any luck, Noon Cat > Nick was right on target with his theory about the blanket fibers. I am hoping his hairball was all that was causing his problems. He is very lucky that the fibers came up this time vs. causing an impaction and requiring surgery. If I were you, I would put that broom in a closet and toss his blanket! Also, check his toys and anything else he plays with for loose parts (I speak from experience here).
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