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advice would be appreciated.  colitis  ?

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dragon - 24 Jan 2008 12:02 GMT
I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise  healthy.  On
Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try
and eat a blackbird.   I removed the bird.  Later in the day  she
seemed a little lacklustre  and on Monday morning she did not go out
as she normally would when I open the door (both my cats go and patrol
the gardens  first thing)    instead  she lay on the bed and I
returned and she stayed with me for a while.  Then she went to her
tray and seemed to produce some pretty soft and messy faeces.  She
seemed very lifeless  and it was very wet and messy around her anus.
I tried to wipe it with some kitchen towel but she was not
enthusiastic and would not let me.  She tried to clean herself up by
licking it  (yuk)
She spent the day lazing about and sleeping and ate almost nothing.
But in the evening she had made a small bit of progress.  On tuesday
morning she wentoutside for some time, ansd was brighter, and indeed
very keen to eat.   Although she was brighter she did not appear to be
much interested in grooming.  I decided to take her to a vet.  Near me
is a practice that is very basic and charges a small fee and have a
walk in hour  (no appointment needed)    I  took her there and was
first in (thus avoiding a long wait with barking dog patients)

The vet examined and said he could find no abnormality  and he said he
would gu=ive her his pick me up.  I asked  what it wass and he said it
would be vitamins  and antibiotics.   I refused the antibiotics as on
a previous occasion  the intramuscular injection caused my other cat
not to be able to walk properly for over a day
and because it was far from clear after only a 24 hr or so illness
that infection was evident.   Nonetheless  the vitamin injection
seemed  also to be applied the painful intramuscular way  (large
needle  into front shoulder area.  )    The  cat screamed, and  when I
got her home rapidly  developed  shaking and trembling and staggering
about  and clingy.  After half an hour she was more competant on her
feet and steadily ambled to the bedroom where  she jumpted onto the
bed and curled up for a sleep.  I decided after some frantic  phone
calls not to take her  back to the vet  (or  the other vets I use)
and instead let her rest  and closely observe her.  In the evening she
joined us in the living room and rested  quietly, then spent the night
on my bed with me, as usual.

I think that vet hates cats  and is disrespectful of dogs.  Other
people have told me that he has been brutal towards  clients
animals.  Thats another  story but I thought his injection came close
to killing my cat and its only  since that trauma  that the tiny red
blood  spots/mucus appeared in the litter tray

On Wednesday morning she was keen to go out and more normal,  ate
plenty etc.  But in the afternoon I noticed  that on the litter tray
surface was some muvus  and blood  (the very tiniest amount.
Probably not enough to paint a  fingernail.   And  about 3  hours
later I observed her do it again  This time a little bit of faeces in
which was a tiny bit of blood and mucus.

Then at bedtime she left  the bed used  the litter tray and  this
morning I could another  small example.   So several hours seem to be
between attempts to defecate

This morning  (Thursday)   she has  gone out,  ate  etc  but I  think
she is lethargic  and quiet  (as  throughout most of the last days)
So it seemed to have started dramatically on Monday  and all her
elimination until wednesday 5pm seemed just softer than normal,  now
there are tiny bright red spots/flecks of blood

I observe also a tendency to strain a bit  at the litterbox    She has
like a spasm does not cry out but it looks as though he colon thinks
there is something ti eliminate but there isnt.

So now  the dilemma.  A trip to the vets today ?    A bright eyed
otherwise lacklustre creature  that is eating.drinking and spending
some time outside as well as not hiding away inside.  Should I rush to
a vet ?     It will involve a  real struggle to get her into the
carrier   (can take 5 minutes  of fighting )    Or  shoukld I watch
and wait for another  24/48 hours.

She seemed keen for me to lie  down on the bed  and snuggle on my
chest. Last night for 2 hours in mid  evening.  I think that might be
that any soreness from colitus may be soothed by the warmth.  Like
putting a hot  water bottle on the tummy when poorly

Both my  cats are insured, and so cost is not an issue

My reading indicates  the greatest liklihood  is  colitis, unlikely to
be parasite related in the adult  cat.  More likely other causes./

I really wonder about that dead  bird.

Any advice would be appreciated
honeybunch - 24 Jan 2008 14:35 GMT
> I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise  healthy.  On
> Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try
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> Any advice would be appreciated

Its a bit odd that you have decided to take a sick cat to a vet who is
conviently near to your house but has a bad reputation and doesnt even
know how to properly dispense medications to animals.  Very odd
especially since money is no object.  You'd better take that cat the
best vet you can find.  We all know it is dangerous to allow our cats
to go outside at will where there are all kinds of dangers lurking:
virus, poison, larger carniverous animals, cruel people, fleas,
poison, etc.  My cat came in from the cold, so to speak.  He was a
stray and I dont have the heart to deny him his daily visits outside.
He insists on doing his business outside and rarely uses the litter
box.  If your cat is suddenly started to use the litter box, please
take the cat to a competent vet immediately.  You seem very fond of
her and will be very unhappy when she dies.
dragon - 24 Jan 2008 15:07 GMT
> > I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise  healthy.  On
> > Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try
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> take the cat to a competent vet immediately.  You seem very fond of
> her and will be very unhappy when she dies.

Thanks for the reply.,   But I need to make some responses,

Initially I should point out that the cat uses the litterbox sometimes
anyway, and other times she goes  outside.    I keep both my cats
inside from dusk onwards and so the litterbox is always available to
them.

1.  This cat was hardly "ill"  within the sense of needingto be taken
to a vet  at all.  She had about a 24hr  bout of being out of sorts
and with somewhat soft faeces./  She had not been sick.   I was being
vigilant even though the cat was at the time 50 to 70 per cent better.

2.  I did not  suit corners in the sense you think.   The vet has an
asistant who almost always takes the cases.   That assistant  is
clearly  competent and compassionate    It was unusual that the
principal  himself  saw my cat this time.   Additionally, that
practice is convenient in that it is possible to arrange ones visit so
that no other clients  are there  (with their barking dogs  etc)

3.     My 2  cats.  Both were rescued by me.  Neighbours  did not
want  them,. failed to care for them properly etc.    Like you I
allow  them to maintain their outdoor lifestyle as the road here is
very quiet (on a housing  estate)  and the
gardens are very cat friendly.    I agree  indoors only is the safest
and kindest one  from the viewpoint of preventing physical
suffering.   I think however that outdoor cats should continue to be
allowed that freedom except in such cases as where there is a
substantial risk of harm such as from a main road etc.

Thanks  for the reply
Buddy's Mom - 24 Jan 2008 17:36 GMT
Please take your kitty to the vet today - a good one, not the one you
previously went to.  Anytime there is blood, you should not question
going to the vet - go!!!
Sharon

> > > I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise �healthy. �On
> > > Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try
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dragon - 24 Jan 2008 18:19 GMT
> Please take your kitty to the vet today - a good one, not the one you
> previously went to.  Anytime there is blood, you should not question
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Thank you for  the reply.  Today its  a bit late to arrange it but on
the positive front.   At the time of writing I can confirm the cat is
sleeping cozily on the settee,  she has eaten, and spent 2 hours
outside.   During the night (and since she has been inside today for 6
hours now) nothing has been defacated.   Additionally, she lies
comfortably  and does not hunch or flinch when handled.   She looks
quite  calm ar the moment, and I will not hesitate to act swiftly
should anything change this evening.

If you recall, my post described a very traumatic  vets trip on
tuesday.  Only  since then was any blood noted  and you might discover
when reading that stressful events can themselves cause  such
disruption to the colon mucosa.  In this case that mucosa was probably
already inflamed as the history suggests.  Now, does anyone really
want me to whip my cat from the settee on the basis of a so far
entirely  isolated and potentially explained spot  (for thats what it
was)  of blood.  To fight to get into the carrier and then have it
waiting at a vets with lots of dogs  barking  for perhaps up to half
an hour ?

I think a isolated case of  a few tiny specks of bright red  blood
( less than  0.2 cm in diameter at most  against the history of an
acute bowel upset are not so serious  as obviously substantial
qauntities and it is a matter of judgement to decide the balance
between the animals actual need for examination and the potentially
aggravating impact of getting the animal there and the enduring of the
alien environment and the physical examination itself.
dragon - 25 Jan 2008 09:59 GMT
> > Please take your kitty to the vet today - a good one, not the one you
> > previously went to.  Anytime there is blood, you should not question
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Friday morning Now.   After a nice  quiet night with no visits  to the
litter tray  she woke up and joined me for a half  hour  snuggle,
then she stretched  and went for some  food  and later water,  then
seemed prepared  to engage in a  short but most vigorous  play this
week, more like normal.  Now she has gone outside with, I noticed,
more of a  spring in her step.

So, whatever troubled her digestion has now not produced any "output"
for 22 hours    (the time  since  she was last outside.  Presumably,
thats progress as Mon Tu Weds it was 3 to 5 times per 24 hours.
 
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