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peter - 10 Jan 2008 00:07 GMT
My old cat died a few months ago.
But before she died, she urinated on the carpet at various places. I am
unable to completely remove the odor.

If I get a new cat, would the odor cause the new cat to pee at the same
spots?
-Lost - 10 Jan 2008 06:21 GMT
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> My old cat died a few months ago.
> But before she died, she urinated on the carpet at various places.
> I am unable to completely remove the odor.
>
> If I get a new cat, would the odor cause the new cat to pee at the
> same spots?

It really doesn't matter because the answer is, "maybe."  Therefore,
you need to handle the odor completely before getting another kitty.

It's just smarter, especially starting fresh.

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cindys - 10 Jan 2008 15:54 GMT
> My old cat died a few months ago.
> But before she died, she urinated on the carpet at various places. I am
> unable to completely remove the odor.
>
> If I get a new cat, would the odor cause the new cat to pee at the same
> spots?
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You probably don't want to hear this, but if I were you, I would pull up the
carpeting and get rid of it. If there is hardwood underneath, then replace
any damaged boards (urine turns wood black) and have the floor refinished.
If it's underlayment, have it covered in tile. The reality is that cats
sometimes have accidents. Even if they don't have them when they are young,
they often have them when they are old (they have frequent urination due to
kidney disease or heart disease or get confused or whatever, as you know).

The carpeting in my living room is a mess (from Alvin, our beloved dog who
died two years ago and Molly, our beloved cat, who died last year). They
were both sick and elderly and were confused or couldn't control themselves.
We currently have two other elderly cats. So far, they haven't been having
any accidents. We have already pulled up part of what was once lovely pale
blue carpeting (it was already in the house when we moved in). There is
blackened wood in the corners in several places, which we will need to
replace. I will never have carpeting again.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Shufflin Shears - 10 Jan 2008 17:58 GMT
> My old cat died a few months ago.
> But before she died, she urinated on the carpet at various places. I am
> unable to completely remove the odor.
>
> If I get a new cat, would the odor cause the new cat to pee at the same
> spots?

Possibly.  Try Nature's Miracle. I used it to get rid of dog pee and
it worked great!
cindys - 10 Jan 2008 18:07 GMT
>> My old cat died a few months ago.
>> But before she died, she urinated on the carpet at various places. I am
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Possibly.  Try Nature's Miracle. I used it to get rid of dog pee and it
> worked great!
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Depending on how deep the urine went, the Nature's Miracle needs to
penetrate the carpeting, the padding, and often the floorboards underneath.
I used nearly a gallon of it in one area (several feet by several feet
square). It practically warped the floorboards, and I still couldn't get rid
of the whole smell. Chances are, the cat urinated in so many places, he'll
never find them all. Nature's Miracle and Simple Solution are great
products, don't get me wrong, but sometimes there's a limit to how much of a
miracle any product can do.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Shufflin Shears - 10 Jan 2008 18:33 GMT
>>>My old cat died a few months ago.
>>>But before she died, she urinated on the carpet at various places. I am
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Best regards,
> ---Cindy S.

Agreed. I can testify, though, that it worked without me using a ton
of it on a 2 x 2 area of rug.
cindys - 10 Jan 2008 18:54 GMT
>>>>My old cat died a few months ago.
>>>>But before she died, she urinated on the carpet at various places. I am
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Agreed. I can testify, though, that it worked without me using a ton of it
> on a 2 x 2 area of rug.
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I agree that would work. I would be willing to bet you used an entire gallon
or close to it? Generally, the problem isn't so much that the Nature's
Miracle can't get rid of the smell in one particular area, assuming you use
enough of it. But generally, the way things go is that the cat urinated in
multiple, multiple areas all over the carpeting. And you can't know where
every spot is and you can't saturate the entire living room the way you did
the 2 x 2 area. For one thing, you would ruin the flooring underneath the
carpeting. For another thing, Nature's Miracle is expensive. You could
easily spend several hundred dollars on Nature's Miracle and still not get
rid of the odor.

Honestly, I'm not trying to be argumentative with you. I just have a living
room with multiple, multiple areas of pale blue carpeting that were urinated
upon (I could never find all the spots) and multiple areas of wood damaged
from both urine and being saturated with Nature's Miracle in a fruitless
attempt to clean it all up. I spent a ton of money on Nature's miracle,
which I generally think is an excellent product, but it has its limits. It
just cannot clean up an entire living room. If Peter is only talking about a
couple of spots, I agree that the Nature's Miracle might be the ticket, but
if his living room is anything like mine, he really is going to have to rip
up the carpeting (IMHO).
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
peter - 10 Jan 2008 22:05 GMT
>> Agreed. I can testify, though, that it worked without me using a ton of
>> it on a 2 x 2 area of rug.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> be the ticket, but if his living room is anything like mine, he really is
> going to have to rip up the carpeting (IMHO).

I honestly don't know how many spots of urine there are. I only smell
several spots. So even the spots I think are clean may have urine.

Originally, I was thinking after my old cat died, I would replace all the
carpets, not have cats and enjoy a clean house. But cats have been imprinted
in my mind and I'm afraid I need to have a cat again.
cindys - 10 Jan 2008 22:19 GMT
>>> Agreed. I can testify, though, that it worked without me using a ton of
>>> it on a 2 x 2 area of rug.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> carpets, not have cats and enjoy a clean house. But cats have been
> imprinted in my mind and I'm afraid I need to have a cat again.
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I know exactly what you mean.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
blkcatgal - 11 Jan 2008 04:21 GMT
There are other cleaners that work better than Nature's Miracle.  I never
had good luck with Nature's Miracle on larger areas.  Try Anti-Icky Poo.
That is what my vet recommended when I had a cat that sprayed on a regular
basis.  It works great.  You could also try Zero Odor.  I haven't used this
myself but others have had good success with it.

Sue
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>>> Agreed. I can testify, though, that it worked without me using a ton of
>>> it on a 2 x 2 area of rug.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> carpets, not have cats and enjoy a clean house. But cats have been
> imprinted in my mind and I'm afraid I need to have a cat again.
cybercat - 11 Jan 2008 05:03 GMT
> There are other cleaners that work better than Nature's Miracle.  I never
> had good luck with Nature's Miracle on larger areas.  Try Anti-Icky Poo.
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>> carpets, not have cats and enjoy a clean house. But cats have been
>> imprinted in my mind and I'm afraid I need to have a cat again.

We had success with something called Pets and Kids, or somesuch thing. Any
enzymatic cleaner ought to do it.

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Adam Helberg - 16 Jan 2008 07:24 GMT
>>> Agreed. I can testify, though, that it worked without me using a ton of it on a 2
>>> x 2 area of rug.
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> not have cats and enjoy a clean house. But cats have been imprinted in my mind and
> I'm afraid I need to have a cat again.

There is a black light you can use to see the areas with urine stains.

Adam
Shufflin Shears - 10 Jan 2008 23:46 GMT
>>>>>My old cat died a few months ago.
>>>>>But before she died, she urinated on the carpet at various places. I am
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> I agree that would work. I would be willing to bet you used an entire gallon
> or close to it?

Nope. About a cup.

There is no wood under my carpet, only cement. Maybe that's the
difference.

> Generally, the problem isn't so much that the Nature's
> Miracle can't get rid of the smell in one particular area, assuming you use
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Best regards,
> ---Cindy S.
cindys - 11 Jan 2008 00:42 GMT
>>>>>>My old cat died a few months ago.
>>>>>>But before she died, she urinated on the carpet at various places. I
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> There is no wood under my carpet, only cement. Maybe that's the
> difference.
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I agree that does make a big difference.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
 
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