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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2008Living Hell
I don't know how to get my cats back on track. I have 5 cats, 3 0f whom are using the litterbox. The other two are causing a divorce along with an older (14) dog because of indiscriminate peeing on the hardwood floors. The vet has not been able to find any physical problem with the dog except arthritis in the Left rear hip. One of the cats is lame in the left leg from a fall for 3 weeks and he is about to go to the Vet. My wife wants to put them all down and I want to put her down. Any suggestions as to how to proceed? >I don't know how to get my cats back on track. I have 5 cats, 3 0f whom are >using the litterbox. The other two are causing a divorce along with an [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > My wife wants to put them all down and I want to put her down. Any > suggestions as to how to proceed? Personally the last time my wife said anything like that she became my ex and was kicked the curb So I take it the vet has ruled out a Urinary tract infection in the dog but has yet to do so in the cat Second how are you cleaning the area? Third how many litter boxes do you have and are you keeping them clean? Also if the dog is doing this more in likely you are not taking it out enough or it smells the area the cats did it in. >>I don't know how to get my cats back on track. I have 5 cats, 3 0f whom are >>using the litterbox. The other two are causing a divorce along with an [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Also if the dog is doing this more in likely you are not taking it out > enough or it smells the area the cats did it in. Thanks for your prompt answer. We are using simply green or Pine Sol to clean the dog pee or the cat pee. Sometimes Pettastic enzyme based neutralizer for carpeting. I have heard Clorox works for the Vet Hospital. We use a giant litterbox with Fresh Step frequently 2x/day cleaned and changed. We have tried 1 large and 1 medium next to each other with disappointing results. We could do upstairs downstairs again; but we have been experimenting as you can see. The dog goes out every 4-6 hours, but will still pee in the kitchen if he feels like it. This happens 2-3 mornings per week. >>>I don't know how to get my cats back on track. I have 5 cats, 3 0f whom >>>are using the litterbox. The other two are causing a divorce along with [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > The dog goes out every 4-6 hours, but will still pee in the kitchen if he > feels like it. This happens 2-3 mornings per week. the area is not being clean like it needs to go to the pet store and buy something called naturals miracle not enough boxes for all of them both upstairs and down both the same size is a god way to start leave dog outside if dog until you can get to talk to vet about the problem > I don't know how to get my cats back on track. I have 5 cats, 3 0f whom > are using the litterbox. The other two are causing a divorce along with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > My wife wants to put them all down and I want to put her down. Any > suggestions as to how to proceed? A. Separate box for each Cat B. Check male cat Fred for urinary infection. C. Diaper the aged dog? Response to Philip Meech <macmeech@gmail.com>: >> I don't know how to get my cats back on track. I have 5 cats, 3 >> 0f whom are using the litterbox. The other two are causing a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > A. Separate box for each Cat I do not know about separate, but at least 50% litter boxes (rounded up) per group of cats. You have 5, so I'd suggested at least 3 (2.5 rounded up). You never know... you may need 4, even 5. Try it and see what helps. > B. Check male cat Fred for urinary infection. As Matthew suggested, this should have already been done. If any animal suddenly starts releasing themselves in odd places it is because they are having intermittent issues with when and how they eliminate -- whether it is behavioral or medical is up to you to find out... ...seperate litter boxes can eliminate behavioral, along with keeping them clean or have double the amount per group of cats if you cannot clean them often enough. That doesn't mean have 10 nasty litter boxes though. > C. Diaper the aged dog? If you believe it is a bladder or UTI problem then sure, get the dog medicated and diaper him. I've diapered my puppies in heats when they had heavy flow, so I see little difference doing it to an elderly lad -- IF that is the problem. Oh, and if your wife was in on all the decisions to take in the animals, then she should sod off. If she protested to animals from the get go, then it is partly if not mostly your fault -- although I'd still go along with the divorce because animals need love to, and if she is willing to abandon them and you over it, then it's most likely meant to be. (I am not a shrink, marriage counselor, nor am I that smart. Take it how you see fit.) Good luck and let us know how it goes.  Signature-Lost Remove the extra words to reply by e-mail. Don't e-mail me. I am kidding. No I am not. >> I don't know how to get my cats back on track. I have 5 cats, 3 0f whom >> are using the litterbox. The other two are causing a divorce along with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > A. Separate box for each Cat average min one box per cat trhan add at least two more in a low traffic area. I have 5 inside cats I have 8 boxes plus two litter maids > B. Check male cat Fred for urinary infection. Majorly > C. Diaper the aged dog? Or make a home for the dog outside if possible. Don't know where you live at or confine the dog to a inside kennel on stands cat litter underneath for easy clean up > I don't know how to get my cats back on track. I have 5 cats, 3 0f whom > are using the litterbox. The other two are causing a divorce along with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > My wife wants to put them all down and I want to put her down. Any > suggestions as to how to proceed? Isolate the peeing cats in the bathroom with a litter box. See how they behave after 2 days. Call a divorce lawyer. Paul >> I don't know how to get my cats back on track. I have 5 cats, 3 0f whom >> are using the litterbox. The other two are causing a divorce along with [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Paul Forget the lawyer vacation to florida a trip to lake jessip which have the highest concentration of alligators it it put a turkey around her neck and push her in the middle no body no evidence just a missing person for the next seven years than collect insurance ;-) If we were to upgrade to three litter boxes, would those be side by side or distributed around our small house? Thank you all for your most patient advice. Guess who likes dogs and who likes cats and who likes furniture? :) Philip Meech asked: >>If we were to upgrade to three litter >> boxes, would those be side by side or >> distributed around our small house? If you really want to solve the problem, you should have SIX litter boxes. I would try distributing them around the house. I have two cats and three litter boxes, each in a different location. ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') >If we were to upgrade to three litter boxes, would those be side by side >or distributed around our small house? We have six cats and five litter boxes distributed through the house (8 rooms, 2,500 sq ft) One of those is in the bedroom, the door to which is usually closed. It's there in case one of them sneaks in and hides under the bed, so we effectively have four available for general use. >Thank you all for your most patient advice. Guess who likes dogs and who >likes cats and who likes furniture? :) Fortunately, this household unanimously ranks critters over furniture. Response to Philip Meech <macmeech@gmail.com>: > If we were to upgrade to three litter boxes, would those be side > by side or distributed around our small house? > Thank you all for your most patient advice. Guess who likes dogs > and who likes cats and who likes furniture? :) I'm never quite sure who you are responding to... Anyway, go with the "general" rules of thumb: 1. Low-traffic area. 2. Comfort zones (for the kitty, not you). I'm not entirely sure but I wouldn't put them side-by-side. If there is some confusion or a kitty doesn't one to be near box A, then they might use bathtub A to eliminate in because box A was too near box B and/or C. Also, on further thought, I said 50% boxes, rounded up. For someone who actually leaves the house (I am disabled) you might want to consider at least a litter box per kitty -- this insures that kitties get a clean box at all times and probably won't go elsewhere. I'd keep 3 clean constantly, and would bear in mind their food and bathroom schedules. Signature-Lost Remove the extra words to reply by e-mail. Don't e-mail me. I am kidding. No I am not. > If we were to upgrade to three litter boxes, would those be side by side > or distributed around our small house? > Thank you all for your most patient advice. Guess who likes dogs and who > likes cats and who likes furniture? :) General rule-of-thumb is one litter box per cat plus one. Make sure all the litter boxes are in low traffic areas - cats can sometimes feel threatened if they are being attacked by other cats while eliminating or are intimidated by large two-legged bypassers. Make sure all the litter boxes are clean. But first of all, get the cats checked for urinary track infections - the most common cause of cats suddenly peeing outside of the litter box. I can tell you from personal experience that a UTI is *extremely* painful - and pain associated with a litter box will cause the cat to avoid it. The dog is probably "marking" his territory as they do outside when they smell another animal's urine. I'd keep him outside in good weather until I got the cat's problems under control. Otherwise, have you heard of "crate training" for dogs? As far as the wife - as others have said, I would not live with someone who so callously suggests ending an animal's life for so minor an inconvenience. And anyone who would put an inanimate object ahead of a sentient being is more than just callous - they are insensitive to the point of being abusive. Hugs, CatNipped |
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