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Hugh Jardon - 19 May 2004 16:53 GMT
Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or
so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought,
that is normal for cats, because all cats do this periodically. But
she kept getting worse, and had a full-blown seizure (very scary) so I
took her to the vet. The vet ran several tests, FIV, FIP, CBC etc.
with no conclusion. My vet admitted that he wasn't very familiar with
seizures in cats, but after observing a seizure while in his office
said that he thinks that it is epilepsy. I have been giving my cat
diazepam and she hasn't had a seizure since she started this
medication. I have been told that diaezapam is really just a generic
form of valium and can cause severe liver damage in cats. Has anyone
here had any experience with cat seizures or epilepsy in cats? I don't
want my girl to end up with liver damage from the meds but I don't
want her to die from a seizure either. I am caught between a rock and
a hard place, and I'm not sure what to do. I would be greatful for any
advice concerning seizures or otherwise. Thank you.

                               Hugh Jardon
~*Connie*~ - 20 May 2004 00:28 GMT
your vet admitted that he doesn't know much about cat seizures.  I would
highly recommend finding one who does.
> Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or
> so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought,
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>
>                                 Hugh Jardon
Mary - 20 May 2004 07:22 GMT
> your vet admitted that he doesn't know much about cat seizures.  I would
> highly recommend finding one who does.
> "Hugh Jardon" <hughjardonenya@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Oh, Connie ... notice anything odd about the OP's name? Say it five times
pretty fast. Hmmm? Think maybe this is another twoll?
James Marz - 20 May 2004 16:13 GMT
> > your vet admitted that he doesn't know much about cat seizures.  I would
> > highly recommend finding one who does.
> > "Hugh Jardon" <hughjardonenya@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Oh, Connie ... notice anything odd about the OP's name? Say it five times
> pretty fast. Hmmm? Think maybe this is another twoll?

PET has been smoking that herb again. Paranoia Mary? Everybody is a troll eh PET?
Hugh Jardon - 20 May 2004 16:31 GMT
> > your vet admitted that he doesn't know much about cat seizures.  I would
> > highly recommend finding one who does.
> > "Hugh Jardon" <hughjardonenya@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Oh, Connie ... notice anything odd about the OP's name? Say it five times
> pretty fast. Hmmm? Think maybe this is another twoll?

You remind me of my younger years when the school children would poke
fun and make jokes about my name. Children will be children I guess. I
came here for advice and I get called a twoll?

                                Hugh Jardon
Laura R. - 29 May 2004 16:49 GMT
circa 20 May 2004 08:31:37 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Hugh
Jardon (hughjardonenya@yahoo.com) said,
> > > your vet admitted that he doesn't know much about cat seizures.  I would
> > > highly recommend finding one who does.
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>
>                                  Hugh Jardon

Well, I know that I skipped this thread on my first breeze-through
because of the name under which you posted it. If this is really your
name and if you really aren't a troll, why do you not post under
"Hugh J." or "HJardon" or something else that would not incline
others to find your posts suspect? Just a thought.

Laura
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Hugh Jardon - 20 May 2004 16:37 GMT
> your vet admitted that he doesn't know much about cat seizures.  I would
> highly recommend finding one who does.

Thanks Connie. I have called every vet listed in my phone book they
all say my vet did the right thing. I made an appointment to get a
second opinion on Friday.

                               Hugh Jardon
Wendy - 20 May 2004 12:41 GMT
> Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or
> so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought,
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>
>                                 Hugh Jardon

A friend's cat had epilepsy and they gave him Phenobarbital. I understand
that Phenobarbital is the initial drug of choice.

W
Hugh Jardon - 20 May 2004 18:20 GMT
> > Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or
> > so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought,
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>
> W

Hi Wendy, I think that is what the vet tried the first time. What ever
it was my girl was allergic to it and it caused a knot to appear under
her skin. Thanks Wendy.

                               Hugh Jardon
Johnny Comelately - 20 May 2004 15:32 GMT
> Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or
> so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought,
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>
>                                 Hugh Jardon

Here is some info you might find useful. I also included the URL in
case you need more info. HTH

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/People/lowekamp/feline_epilepsy.html

Feline Seizures and Epilepsy

The intent of this page is to provide information for people whose
cats have had seizures. Seizures are a serious problem, and a cat that
has had a seizure should be taken to a veterinarian for proper
diagnosis. A proper diagnosis may be expensive and may take some time,
but there is usually an underlying cause that can be eliminated or
appropriate treatment that can be prescribed.
The information in this page is not meant to substitute for a
veterinarian's advice, but to aid those who are trying to learn more
about their cat's illness and to encourage owners of cats that have
had seizures to have their cat's illness diagnosed as quickly as
possible. More clinical information is available through the
references at the bottom of this article.

What is Epilepsy?

It is important to understand the difference between epilepsy and
seizures. Seizures, which range from unusual mood swings to
uncontrollable thrashing and loss of body control, are symptoms of a
disease. Causes of seizures include infections, tumors, toxic
chemicals, and epilepsy. Most seizures in cats have a cause other than
epilepsy. It's most useful to think of epilepsy as a word for seizures
for which no other cause has been found.
You will sometimes see epilepsy divided into idiopathic, or primary,
epilepsy; and symptomatic, or secondary, epilepsy. Idiopathic epilepsy
is the term used for seizures that appear to have no other cause.
Symptomatic epilepsy refers to seizures caused by an underlying
condition.
Regardless of the terms used, the primary goal when treating a cat
with seizures is to identify the disease causing the seizures,
assuming it is epilepsy only if no other cause can be found.

General Advice

Seizures should not go untreated. There are risks of choking during a
seizure, and more importantly, the seizures may be symptomatic of an
underlying disease that can and should be treated. Anti-convulsant
drugs may be effective in controlling the seizures, depending on the
exact diagnosis.

Observing Seizures

If you observe your cat having what you believe is a seizure, the most
important thing to do is to observe every detail you can about it so
it can be described to your vet. Frequently, your vet will never
actually be able to observe your cat having a seizure, so your
description is important to the diagnosis. Try to observe breathing
patterns; paddling, motion, or rigidness of limbs; eye dilation or
motion; salivation; body twisting; muscle twitching; and duration. It
is important to observe which parts of the body are involved. After
the seizure is over, your presence and attention will probably comfort
your cat as it regains consciousness.
Please note that there is an incredibly wide range of symptoms
associated with seizures. Generalized convulsions are rare in cats.
More common is the "partial complex seizure," which involves an
"altered consciousness" and can involve anything from a lack of motion
to bizarre behavior such as attacking invisible objects or frantic
running and collisions with objects (yes, I know your cat does this
normally, this is why it's difficult to diagnose). The major
indication that unusual behavior is being caused by a seizure is the
presence of "features typical of seizure activity such as facial
twitching, salivation, or progression to generalized seizure." (Parent
and Quesnel, 1996)
If a cat is having a single prolonged seizure, continuous seizures
without recovery between them, or two or more isolated seizures within
24 hours, seek medical attention immediately. Aggressive treatment is
recommended, usually intravenous dosage of diazepam.

Diagnosis

Your close observation and careful description will help your vet make
a diagnosis. Specifically, partial motor seizures are more indicative
of symptomatic epilepsy (suggesting an underlying disease), while
idiopathic epilepsy usually manifests itself in strictly generalized
seizures. This distinction is not conclusive; it is just one piece of
evidence to be considered.
A complete physical and neurological examination should be performed
on any cat with seizures. Often blood tests are indicated to detect
any generalized illness that may be causing the seizures. These may
include FeLV, toxoplasmosis, FIV, FIP, urinalysis, complete blood cell
count (CBC), and biochemical profile. Based on these results, further
tests may be indicated. These may include analysis of spinal fluid to
detect encephalitis and imaging procedures, such as MRI or CT, to
detect lesions such as tumors.
You should be aware that few vets have any experience with seizures in
cats. They are rare, compared with seizures in dogs. Ask your vet
questions about what tests they are considering and what your options
are. A vet should not be offended if you get a second opinion. This is
important to remember because I have received email from owners of
several cats that have died from conditions that could have been
detected with a simple blood test and treated quite easily, but were
not. If your vet cannot find any cause of the seizures and has not
done bloodwork, you should be concerned.

Treatment

If a disease is found to be causing the seizures, the best treatment
is to remove or correct the underlying problem. The success of such
treatment depends on your vet's ability to identify and treat the
disease or remove the growth that is causing the seizures. For
example, surgery is often effective for some tumors in cats.
If the diagnosis is epilepsy or if the underlying disease is difficult
to treat and/or not becoming worse, then the usual therapy is to
control the seizures with anti-convulsant drugs. Phenobarbital is
considered the initial drug of choice for feline epilepsy. Diazepam
(valium) may also be effective but sometimes causes liver problems.
The dosage must be adjusted individually to minimize side-effects.
Again, this will require your careful observation; you will want to
find the lowest dosage that will control the seizures. Potassium
Bromide is also being used to treat epilepsy, particularly in cases
where liver problems or ineffectiveness may prevent phenobarbital from
being used to eliminate the seizures.
Some people have suggested that a taurine deficiency may cause
seizures. I have not yet seen any information based on scientific
research that would support this belief. However, it is certainly true
that a cat having seizures should be fed a balanced diet that supplies
adequate taurine.
The success of treating your cat's seizures depends on the cause of
the seizures and the cat's response to medication. This is a difficult
condition to diagnose, so it may take several trips to the vet as
different diagnostic paths are pursued. Furthermore, your vet should
not be upset if you seek a second opinion. If it is difficult to find
the cause of your cat's seizures, your local vet may refer your cat to
a regional teaching hospital that may be able to pursue a wider
variety of tests and treatments and will generally be cheaper.
Hugh Jardon - 20 May 2004 18:16 GMT
> Here is some info you might find useful. I also included the URL in
> case you need more info. HTH
>
>  http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/People/lowekamp/feline_epilepsy.html

Thanks Johnny, there is a lot of helpful information here. I am taking
my girl back to the vet tommorow for a second opinion. I printed this
info to take with me. Thanks again.

                              Hugh Jardon
Jim D - 20 May 2004 15:39 GMT
Our cat briefly suffered from seizures and motor control problems when she
became diabetic and was given too much insulin.

Severe hypoglycemia can result in seizures and muscle control problems, so
be sure to have your cat checked for blood sugar problems.

> Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or
> so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought,
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>
>                                 Hugh Jardon
Hugh Jardon - 20 May 2004 18:11 GMT
> Our cat briefly suffered from seizures and motor control problems when she
> became diabetic and was given too much insulin.
>
> Severe hypoglycemia can result in seizures and muscle control problems, so
> be sure to have your cat checked for blood sugar problems.

Would that show up on a blood test, or would the vet have to check for
that independantly? My vet ran several tests but said they were
inconclusive. Thanks Jim.

                                 Hugh Jardon
Jim D - 21 May 2004 13:26 GMT
Hugh -

The vet can check your cat's blood sugar by means of a blood test.  The
process is very similar to that for checking a human.  To do a thorough job,
the vet would need to take several small blood samples over the course of a
day to see what happens to the cat's blood sugar after eating, between
meals, and when it is getting hungry.

In a diabetic cat, for example, the blood sugar would tend to spike up to an
abnormally high level after eating , stay high for a while, and then drop
off to abnormally low levels before the next feeding time.  In a normal cat,
the blood sugar would start to go up, then be offset by the cat's secretion
of insulin into the blood stream, which would keep the blood sugar within a
normal tolerance band over a period of hours.

For those who are interested in human dieting and weight loss, it is this
insulin cycle that underlies the medical theory of "low carb" diet plans.
High carb diets drive up blood sugar, which then triggers insulin production
to get the blood sugar back down.  Insulin tells the body to convert the
blood sugar into fat to store it for later use.  Continued intake of carbs
keeps the body from tapping the fat reserve for energy, so the fat never
goes away.  Also, the body tends not to tap into its fat reserves unless it
is starving or is being properly exercised.  Thus, high carbs equals fat
production and weight gain.  On the other hand, limited carb intake and
proper exercise means tapping the body's fat reserves, which equals weight
loss.

Interestingly, extensive medical research indicates that the human body
cycles its fat reserves - that is, old fat gets replaced by new fat when
there is sufficient intake of oil and fat in the diet.  Since the body also
tends to store toxic substances and chemicals (and even prescription and
illegal drugs) in fat, this normal cycling of fat sheds potentially harmful
substances from the body.  For example, simply by adding two tablespoons of
olive oil to the daily diet, medical research shows that a woman can cut the
odds of breast (high degree of fatty tissue) cancer by 30% to 60%!!  You
would think the medicos would realize that low fat diets can actually be
quiet harmful in the long run, and that  it's the type of fat (trans-fat and
saturated fat) not the overall amount of fat that counts.

Oh well, I've strayed off the topic.

Best wishes.

> > Our cat briefly suffered from seizures and motor control problems when she
> > became diabetic and was given too much insulin.
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>
>                                   Hugh Jardon
Marek Williams - 23 May 2004 23:01 GMT
>In a diabetic cat, for example, the blood sugar would tend to spike up to an
>abnormally high level after eating , stay high for a while, and then drop
>off to abnormally low levels before the next feeding time.  In a normal cat,
>the blood sugar would start to go up, then be offset by the cat's secretion
>of insulin into the blood stream, which would keep the blood sugar within a
>normal tolerance band over a period of hours.

Diabetic humans and cats do run too high because of insufficient
insulin. However, the rebound effect (i.e., going too low) is very
unusual. In fact it is more common among chronic hypoglycemics, who
are not at all diabetic.

>For those who are interested in human dieting and weight loss, it is this
>insulin cycle that underlies the medical theory of "low carb" diet plans.
>High carb diets drive up blood sugar, which then triggers insulin production
>to get the blood sugar back down.  Insulin tells the body to convert the
>blood sugar into fat to store it for later use.

This is all wrong.

Fat cells are the only cells in the body that can admit glucose
without the presence of insulin. All other cells in the body require
insulin to trigger the opening of the cell wall to admit the glucose
molecule from the blood.

Thus, when your blood sugar is high and there is not enough insulin (a
diabetic condition), the sugar goes into the fat cells. When there is
an adequate amount of insulin the sugar is absorbed and burned by
other cells and less so by the fat cells. Insulin does not "tell the
body to convert the blood sugar into fat to store it for later use."
The truth is more or less the opposite -- sugar ends up being
converted to fat in the absence of insulin, not when it is prevalent.

Overweight conditions are caused by dozens of different factors.
Indeed, each overweight cat or human is overweight for a combination
of reasons, including eating habits.

>Interestingly, extensive medical research indicates that the human body
>cycles its fat reserves - that is, old fat gets replaced by new fat when
>there is sufficient intake of oil and fat in the diet.  Since the body also
>tends to store toxic substances and chemicals (and even prescription and
>illegal drugs) in fat, this normal cycling of fat sheds potentially harmful
>substances from the body.

So I suppose the narcs should stop using blood and urine testing and
just slice a rasher of fat out of the suspect's bacon, eh? It is true
that some substances (including a lot of vitamins) are stored in fatty
tissue, but they are stored there in small amounts and slowly.
Furthermore, when the fat is later burned the substance remains behind
and goes back into the blood stream. The substance doesn't "burn up"
along with the fat. The liver and kidneys take care of most of the
impurities by cleaning them out of the blood; impurities are not
removed by "cycling" of fat.

--
Bogus e-mail address, but I read this newsgroup regularly, so reply here.
jamie - 28 May 2004 21:25 GMT
> Diabetic humans and cats do run too high because of insufficient
> insulin. However, the rebound effect (i.e., going too low) is very
> unusual. In fact it is more common among chronic hypoglycemics, who
> are not at all diabetic.

Unfortunately, there are still a lot of vets who don't recommend home
monitoring of bg, and it's difficult to get an accurate curve in a
veterinary clinic, because stress raises bg.  My vet wanted me to just
give my cat 1 unit insulin twice a day, and didn't think home monitoring
his bg was necessary.  But I started testing him the day after he
came home, and on the new diet, he was staying within normal bg levels
without insulin.  If I'd given him the insulin, he probably would have
had hypo seizures.

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Jim D - 25 Jun 2004 13:50 GMT
Marek -

Do you have any medical reference sources for your statements, particularly
about blood sugar being stored in fat cells?  Your statements about blood
sugar being directly absorbed into and stored by fat cells is completely
contrary to established medical facts.  Please stop misleading people by
spreading false information.  Please read the entire response below so you
can learn the truth.

In simple terms the facts are:  When blood sugar (glucose) is too high, the
pancreas releases insulin which causes cells to increase their intake of
glucose and the liver to convert excess glucose to glycogen.  Glycogen is
then stored in the liver and can be stored in muscle tissue.  Excess
glycogen is converted to triglycerides by the liver, which are then released
into the blood and stored as fat in adipose cells (fat cells).  When blood
sugar is too low, the pancreas releases glucogen which causes the liver to
convert stored glycogen back into glucose and release the glucose into the
blood stream for metabolism.  Glucose is absorbed into and metabolized by
all types of the body's cells, except for fat cells (adipose cells).  The
body does not *store* any significant amounts of glucose (blood sugar)
anywhere, certainly not in fat cells.

In simple terms:  The National Science Foundation and the National
Institutes for Health have published several studies, and articles have been
published in various medical journals, concluding that intake of as little
as 2 tablespoons of olive oil daily can significantly reduce the incidence
of breast cancer in women.  I'll leave it to the astute reader to draw their
own conclusions about why the intake of oil reduces cancer in fatty tissue,
or to go find the published studies themselves.

About insulin and the production of body fat in detail:
Energy ingested as fat beyond that needed for current energy demands is
stored in adipose tissue. In addition, carbohydrate and protein consumed in
the diet can be converted to fat. Energy ingested as carbohydrate can be
stored as glycogen in the liver and muscle. Carbohydrate can also be
converted to triglycerides primarily in the liver and transferred to adipose
tissue for storage. Amino acids from ingested proteins are used for new
protein synthesis or they can be converted to carbohydrate and fat.

Fatty acids, in the form of triglycerides or free fatty acids bound to
albumin, are ingested in the diet or synthesized by the liver (described
above). Very little synthesis of free fatty acids occurs in the adipocytes.
Triglycerides are the most significant source of fatty acids, because this
is the form in which dietary lipids are assembled by the gut and liver.
Triglycerides made up of long chain fatty acids, in the form of chylomicrons
(from intestinal absorption) or lipoproteins (from hepatic synthesis), are
hydrolyzed to glycerol and free fatty acids by an enzyme called lipoprotein
lipase (LPL). Lipoprotein lipase is synthesized in adipocytes and secreted
into adjacent endothelial cells. Chylomicrons and lipoproteins (very low
density lipoproteins) contain C-ll apoprotein, which activates LPL. Free
fatty acids are taken up by adipocytes in a concentration-dependent manner
by a transmembrane transport protein. Once inside the adipocyte, fatty acids
enter a common pool made up of both incoming and outgoing fatty acids. Fatty
acids that are stored in the adipose tissue must first combine with coenzyme
A to form a thioester and then they are re-esterified in a stepwise manner
to triglycerides. Glucose is the primary source of glycerol for this
re-esterification process. Only a small amount of glycerol released, when
triglycerides are hydrolyzed by LPL, can be reused by adipocytes to form
alpha glycerol phosphate to be used for trigyceride assembly. Most glycerol
is returned to the circulation.

Insulin, a hormone secreted by the beta cells of the pancreas, plays a
predominant role in the lipogenic process. The net effect of insulin is to
enhance storage and block mobilization and oxidation of fatty acids. Insulin
exerts its effect by stimulating LPL formation, so that circulating
triglycerides are hydrolyzed and free fatty acids can enter the adipocyte.
Insulin is also required for the transport of glucose, which is needed for
re-esterification of the triglycerides once inside the adipocyte. Finally,
the conversion of glucose to fatty acids is accomplished by insulin's
activation of several enzymes.

Lipolysis is the chemical decomposition and release of fat from adipose
tissue. This process predominates over lipogenesis when additional energy is
required. The triglycerides within the adipocyte are acted upon by a
multi-enzyme complex called hormone sensitive lipase (HSL), which hydrolyzes
the triglyceride into free fatty acids and glycerol. These lipases act
consecutively on triglycerides, diglycerides, and monoglycerides.
Triglyceride lipase regulates the rate of lipolysis, because its activity is
low.

Once triglycerides are hydrolyzed to fatty acids and glycerol, fatty acids
enter the common free fatty acid pool where they may be re-esterified,
undergo beta-oxidation (metabolic degradation), or be released into the
circulation as substrates for skeletal muscle, cardiac muscle, and liver. If
the fatty acids are to undergo beta-oxidation for ATP production, fatty
acids move from the adipocytes into the blood and are carried to the tissues
that can use them as an energy source. Long-chain fatty acids enter the
cells of these tissues by passive diffusion, and their rate of uptake is
proportional to their difference in concentration inside and outside of the
cell. Once inside the cells, beta-oxidation begins with "activation", that
is, the formation of thioesters with coenzyme A. This activation step
converts the fatty acids to a form that is more amenable to the successive
biochemical changes that ultimately result in ATP formation.

Insulin reduces mobilization of fatty acids from adipose tissue by
inhibiting triglyceride lipase. The mechanism of this inhibition may be
through a decrease in cyclic AMP which in turn results in an inhibition of
cyclic-AMP-dependent protein kinase. This suppression of lipolysis lowers
the rate of fatty acid delivery to the liver and to peripheral tissues. The
consequence of fewer fatty acids to the liver is a reduction in the
formation of ketoacids (e.g., ketones). Insulin also stimulates the use of
ketoacids by peripheral tissues, preventing an accumulation of these acids
in the blood.

Extracted from articles published by:

Ann L. Albright and Judith S. Stern
Department of Nutrition and Internal Medicine
University of California at Davis
Davis, CA
USA

> >In a diabetic cat, for example, the blood sugar would tend to spike up to an
> >abnormally high level after eating , stay high for a while, and then drop
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> --
> Bogus e-mail address, but I read this newsgroup regularly, so reply here.
Laura R. - 25 Jun 2004 18:07 GMT
circa Fri, 25 Jun 2004 08:50:46 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Jim D (jimd1212003@yahoo.com) said,
>  Please stop misleading people by
> spreading false information.  Please read the entire response below so you
> can learn the truth.

I, for one, stopped reading here since it seemed that you were more
interested in slamming Marek than in providing useful information.

Laura
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James Marz - 21 May 2004 16:50 GMT
> > Our cat briefly suffered from seizures and motor control problems when she
> > became diabetic and was given too much insulin.
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>
>                                   Hugh Jardon

You should have your vet test you for a brain, apparently you are lacking one.
Kalyahna - 21 May 2004 03:23 GMT
> Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or
> so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>                                 Hugh Jardon

My girl has ideopathic epilepsy - in other words, no known cause. Thankfully
all but one of her seizures have been very mild. She was on phenobarbital
for close to two years before being weaned off of it, and has had no fits
since. Valium is also a possible drug. Do your research on the diazepam and
possible side effects. Most vets will encourage you to eventually wean your
cat off of the medication, as in some cases, if the treatment goes long
enough, suddenly not having it can -cause- the seizures (chemical dependency
in cats, you know). If you notice her having a fit, turn off the lights,
turn off anything that makes noise. Quiet and darkness can help the cat
relax and shorten the fit. Try to keep a running mental time of the seizure.
Three minutes is the danger zone: at three minutes, there can be brain
damage from which the animal may never recover. I imagine that during a
grand mal seizure, however, that the danger zone might come up faster.

My girl has only had the one grand mal, as I said, and that was in the
carrier on a three hour drive. That's terrifying. Her petit mals were really
only a loss of coordination and a lack of ability to stand. She'd sprawl on
the floor, purring like mad, stretched on her side. Turning off the lights
and just petting her and talking to her quietly always seemed to help her
come out of it faster.
 
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