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Feeder for only one cat (aka the fat cat blues)

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Sethran - 21 May 2004 04:47 GMT
So Robin and Heather seem to be settling in well.  The only problem is
that Robin is rapidly expanding.  If she weren't spayed I'd be
expecting kittens any day now.  When we first adopted her she weighed
9.9 lbs.  Today she's up to 12.5

I refuse to have a fat cat because of the health concerns.  But
Heather is a skinny little thing and none of us are home enough to
make sure she gets to eat.  So just picking up the food isn't an
option.  I seem to remember that there are feeders out there that only
open for one animal...the pet wears a collar that the feeder responds
to.  When the cat moves away the feeder closes.  That would be perfect
because it would allow Heather free access to food but help us control
Robin's intake.  But I can't remember what they're called and
searching has only shown me the more typical automatic feeders.  Does
anyone have any experiance with a controlled feeder or at least know
what it might be called?
Karen Chuplis - 21 May 2004 04:49 GMT
> So Robin and Heather seem to be settling in well.  The only problem is
> that Robin is rapidly expanding.  If she weren't spayed I'd be
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> anyone have any experiance with a controlled feeder or at least know
> what it might be called?

Never saw one. Are you sure it exists? If not, make one and patent it!!
Sethran - 21 May 2004 20:35 GMT
> Never saw one. Are you sure it exists? If not, make one and patent it!!

Um...how is pretty sure for an answer?  I could swear they exist...but
I might have just dreamed it.  I imagine it works the same way as the
cat doors that only work for cats wearing a special collar.

Sethran
MaryL - 21 May 2004 05:25 GMT
> So Robin and Heather seem to be settling in well.  The only problem is
> that Robin is rapidly expanding.  If she weren't spayed I'd be
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> anyone have any experiance with a controlled feeder or at least know
> what it might be called?

Are you home morning and evening?  If so, you *are* home enough to monitor
your cats' eating habits.  You would need to switch to canned food (which is
healthier than dry food) and leave it out only long enough for each cat to
eat.  Once they are used to the routine, you could probably remove the food
bowls after 20-30 minutes.  This means that you could feed your cats at your
own breakfast time and again at bedtime.  I use Wellness and Felidae
canned -- 1/3 can (5.5 oz. cans) for each cat twice a day, spaced 12 hours
apart or as close to that as possible.  Fresh water should *always* be
available, of course.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
Sethran - 21 May 2004 20:48 GMT
>> Are you home morning and evening?  If so, you *are* home enough to
monitor
> your cats' eating habits.  You would need to switch to canned food (which is
> healthier than dry food) and leave it out only long enough for each cat to
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> apart or as close to that as possible.  Fresh water should *always* be
> available, of course.

That's very good advice...I really wish I could take it.  Between the
three of us someone is usually home every hour of the day.  I mean
really our pets are hardly left entirely alone.  But after Nic died
the boys started to kind of chaff about having so many animals and
having to care for them.  Neither of them are really willing to deal
with Heather and Robin right now and making sure they both get the
food they need.  I'm home in the morning and early afternoon and at
work until midnight.

I know that wet food is the best choice all around health wise.  When
Nic started to get really sick we started to worry more about just
getting him to eat and stop caring about what he was eating.
Honestly, we neglected Heather during the last few months of Nic's
life.  We still did everything she needed but we were too worried
about him to worry about her.  So the side effect was that she got
used to eating some really crappy foods and having the foods changed
all the time.  She's currently on a diet of mixed crap dry foods
(Friskies, etc...) and wet food twice a day.  We're phasing out the
crap food slowly and replacing it with the better brands (Wellness,
etc).  I'd love to get her eating only wet food.  But Heather is VERY
much a little priss.  She'll eat a food one day and never touch it
again.  She'll eat one food for a week and once we decide she's doing
well on and buy a bunch more cans...suddenly she acts like we just put
slop in her bowl.  She loves wet food...but she doesn't eat more than
one or two bites before walking away.  Wet food only would be fine for
Robin...but I don't feel that Heather eats enough of it to keep her
weight at a good level.  We're tried taking away the dry food and only
offering wet to see if she'll eat more and it doesn't work.  She
actually dropped a pound during that week.

I'm sorry, I'm just ranting at this point.  But it feels like this is
just another thing to deal with when there's already too much going
on.  Heather was a stray that had severe IBS the first few months of
her life with us.  I think that has alot to do with her food problems.
It also doesn't help that we did switch her food so often in our
attempts to coax Nic to eat something.  But what's done is done...I'm
just not sure how to fix the situation I've created with her.

Sethran
GovtLawyer - 22 May 2004 01:11 GMT
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I had a similar problem, and was given a solution by a vet.  I never tried it,
because of lack of space, but you might want to.

I assume, your larger cat is eating some of the food of the smaller one.  Get a
cardboard box and turn it upside down.  Put something on the top to weigh it
down.
At the bottom of the box cut a hole (like a mousehole), only wide enough for
your small cat to get inside.  When you feed them, put the food for the small
cat in the box.  The larger cat will eat his food, and the smaller cat has his
food all to himself. VOILA!
Wendy - 22 May 2004 02:55 GMT
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>
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> cat in the box.  The larger cat will eat his food, and the smaller cat has his
> food all to himself. VOILA!

We feed Boots in a box/carton. He's actually gotten to prefer it that way.
Instead of turning the box upside-down I stuck adhesive backed Velcro on the
"flaps" so it opens up to put the food in and do a periodic cleaning. I had
to Velcro the bowl down out of reach of the door so Isabelle couldn't reach
in and slide the bowl over to where she could get to the food. I also cut a
small window in the side so he could see what he was eating. It's been
working well for the last 6 months or so.

Wendy
GovtLawyer - 22 May 2004 15:21 GMT
>We feed Boots in a box/carton. He's actually gotten to prefer it that way.
>Instead of turning the box upside-down I stuck adhesive backed Velcro on the
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>
>Wendy

So, I assume you've cut a hole only big enough for Boots and too small for
Isabel?  I guess my vet was right.
Wendy - 22 May 2004 18:50 GMT
> >We feed Boots in a box/carton. He's actually gotten to prefer it that way.
> >Instead of turning the box upside-down I stuck adhesive backed Velcro on the
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> So, I assume you've cut a hole only big enough for Boots and too small for
> Isabel?  I guess my vet was right.

Your assumption is correct. Isabelle wouldn't fit through the hole if her
life depended on it. Boots is my 9 mo old fit and trim kitten (still on
kitten food) and Isabelle is my resident bowling ball. She was a bowling
ball when we adopted her last fall and despite our efforts nothing has
changed. We just put her on Hair Ball Control Light which she hates so maybe
finally she'll lose some weight.

W
MaryL - 22 May 2004 19:24 GMT
> > >We feed Boots in a box/carton. He's actually gotten to prefer it that
> way.
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>
> W

Innova makes excellent "lite" cat food (available in both canned and dry).
You might have to order it online, but it would be well worth a try for
Isabelle.  Check here for more information:
http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=foods-tab

MaryL
GovtLawyer - 22 May 2004 23:24 GMT
>We just put her on Hair Ball Control Light which she hates so maybe
>finally she'll lose some weight.

Another gem from my vet.  Years ago he put one of my cats on a medicinal food,
which both cats had to eat; I couldn't separate them in my tiny apartment.  In
any event, they didn't eat the food for a few days, and I was worried.  I asked
my vet about this, and he asked me the following question: "If you were really
hungry, would you eat cat food?" I said "yes."  "Well", he said, "so will
they."  In short order, they started to eat the food.
Cheryl - 22 May 2004 23:42 GMT
> In
> any event, they didn't eat the food for a few days, and I was worried.
>  I asked my vet about this, and he asked me the following question:
> "If you were really hungry, would you eat cat food?" I said "yes."
> "Well", he said, "so will they."  In short order, they started to eat
> the food.

You can't rely on this. If they don't feel well, they won't eat. It
doesn't take long to not feel well when feeding stops. Liver damage can
start amazingly fast. I'm always amazed when people say if a cat holds out
long enough for a food they *do* like, they will eventually eat what they
don't. It just isn't true in some cases.

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