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Knack - 20 May 2004 06:12 GMT
So far, no fleas or ticks on any of my four cats who have been wearing
Bansect collars for the past 12 days. They stay outside for about 10-12
hours per day (on non-rainy days) during this time of year.

A Google search of newsgroups didn't turn up anything negative about the use
of this product, but...

Although my sense of smell is very poor, I detect a powerful odor from all
four of the Bansect collars, even after almost two weeks since they were
unpackaged. Have to wonder about kitty's (and my own) respiratory exposure
to the fumes that Bansect gives off. The manufacturer even warns the
customer to wash his/her hands after handling this product.

Hmmm... maybe it would be OK to have kitty wear it perhaps only twice a
week, storing it in an air-tight container when not in use?
PawsForThought - 20 May 2004 14:05 GMT
>From: "Knack" zok9@NOSPAMhotmail.com

>Although my sense of smell is very poor, I detect a powerful odor from all
>four of the Bansect collars, even after almost two weeks since they were
>unpackaged. Have to wonder about kitty's (and my own) respiratory exposure
>to the fumes that Bansect gives off.

I would absolutely NOT use any flea collars.  They are indeed toxic.  Plus none
that I know of are breakaway collars, meaning if kitty gets the collar stuck on
something, it could hang him.

>The manufacturer even warns the
>customer to wash his/her hands after handling this product.

Please get those collars off your cats immediately before they get sick or
worse.

>Hmmm... maybe it would be OK to have kitty wear it perhaps only twice a
>week, storing it in an air-tight container when not in use?

No.  Get something safe from your vet.

Lauren
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Knack - 21 May 2004 06:19 GMT
I've temporarily removed the Bansect collars from the kitties until I learn
more about them. I've noticed that the kitties' ears are warm at all times
since they've had the collars on. Normally their ears should be warm only if
they've either been running about or if they've been out in the sun on a hot
day. So the warm ears might possibly indicate an allergic reaction to the
collars. Their noses are remaining cool.

The US$1.50 price of a Bansect collar can be exploited. At that low price
the collar can be set extra loose so that it can be readily slipped off by
kitty in an emergency.

No anti-flea/tick product obtained from a vet will be 100% safe.

> >From: "Knack" zok9@NOSPAMhotmail.com
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
> Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
PawsForThought - 21 May 2004 13:34 GMT
>From: "Knack" zok9@NOSPAMhotmail.com

>I've temporarily removed the Bansect collars from the kitties until I learn
>more about them. I've noticed that the kitties' ears are warm at all times
>since they've had the collars on. Normally their ears should be warm only if
>they've either been running about or if they've been out in the sun on a hot
>day. So the warm ears might possibly indicate an allergic reaction to the
>collars. Their noses are remaining cool.

I would say not an allergic reaction, more likely a reaction to the poison that
they're wearing around their necks.

>No anti-flea/tick product obtained from a vet will be 100% safe.

This is true.  But they sure are a hell of a lot more safe than OTC products
and flea collars.  Seriously, that stuff is crap and not worth risking your
kitties' health.  

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
James Marz - 20 May 2004 16:07 GMT
> So far, no fleas or ticks on any of my four cats who have been wearing
> Bansect collars for the past 12 days. They stay outside for about 10-12
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> Hmmm... maybe it would be OK to have kitty wear it perhaps only twice a
> week, storing it in an air-tight container when not in use?

Bansect collars are the best. They smell odd, but are absolutely
harmless, I have been using them on my cats for a long time with no
problems.

James
Knack - 21 May 2004 07:37 GMT
> > So far, no fleas or ticks on any of my four cats who have been wearing
> > Bansect collars for the past 12 days. They stay outside for about 10-12
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> James

How long have you had the collars in use? During this season only, or
previous seasons? Do the cats sleep with them on too? Are they farm cats or
are they frequently handled cats? Are their ears always warm when the
collars are on them?
Jim D - 20 May 2004 16:45 GMT
Bansect Flea and Tick Collar for Cats (and for Dogs) is officially
registered an a "pesticide" in the state of Nevada.  Pesticides are
registered because they are toxic chemicals.  The Nevada registration does
not include information about just what in the product is toxic.

http://agri.nv.gov/Chem0.htm

http://agri.nv.gov/chem/list1/pestlist1.htm

http://agri.nv.gov/chem/list1/pes02559.HTM#Band31=SERGEANT%27S%20PET%20PRODUCTS%20INC

Bansect is made by Sergeant's.  The Sergeant's web site states that the
active ingredient in Bansect is Naled.  The US Environmental Protection
Agency (EPA) says the following about Naled:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/naled/naledsum.htm

a.. There are dermal and inhalation exposure concerns from handling pet flea
collars. The exposure includes putting the collar around the neck of the
animal as well as petting/playing with the animal. Flea collars containing
less than 1.4 grams of naled are not of concern for adult long-term
exposure. However, these collars exceed the level of concern for children
(MOE = 21 - 74). For products that contain more than 1.4 grams of naled the
risks are a concern for both adults and children (MOE = 10 - 83).

In summary, Naled is a neuro-toxin, or phosphate-based nerve agent, that
causes respiratory failure in mammals.  Flea collars containing Naled can be
dangerous to children from the handling of the collar and/or the pet wearing
the collar.

No flea and tick collar that uses toxic chemicals can be called safe, much
less absolutely safe.

*Sergeant's and Bansect are registered trademarks.

> So far, no fleas or ticks on any of my four cats who have been wearing
> Bansect collars for the past 12 days. They stay outside for about 10-12
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Hmmm... maybe it would be OK to have kitty wear it perhaps only twice a
> week, storing it in an air-tight container when not in use?
Knack - 21 May 2004 07:30 GMT
Thanks for the research. Very informative. And your previous replies to the
other post dated 5-19-04 are also very good too.

> Bansect Flea and Tick Collar for Cats (and for Dogs) is officially
> registered an a "pesticide" in the state of Nevada.  Pesticides are
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://agri.nv.gov/chem/list1/pestlist1.htm

http://agri.nv.gov/chem/list1/pes02559.HTM#Band31=SERGEANT%27S%20PET%20PRODU
CTS%20INC

> Bansect is made by Sergeant's.  The Sergeant's web site states that the
> active ingredient in Bansect is Naled.  The US Environmental Protection
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> > Hmmm... maybe it would be OK to have kitty wear it perhaps only twice a
> > week, storing it in an air-tight container when not in use?
 
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