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hifructose - 01 Dec 2007 16:35 GMT
I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
hisses.

Why do you suppose she does that?
Noon Cat Nick - 01 Dec 2007 16:47 GMT
> I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
> hisses.
>
> Why do you suppose she does that?

Animals are normally protective of those parts of the body, which are
quite vulnerable. Some cats love being stroked there, some just tolerate
it, others just plain won't put up with it. Your cat is in the last
category. That's it.
Matthew - 01 Dec 2007 16:54 GMT
>I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
> hisses.
>
> Why do you suppose she does that?

She doesn't like that  many cats are that way

She is telling you to stop when she hisses
hifructose - 01 Dec 2007 20:16 GMT
> >I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> > her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> She is telling you to stop when she hisses

I've only seen cats hiss when they are frightened or in pain, so I took
her to the vet today to be examined.  Nothing is wrong with her.

So you are correct; i.e., she's just being a belligerent, insolent
kitty.  Her bad attitude is going to have to change if she expects to
remain in this household.
cybercat - 01 Dec 2007 20:16 GMT
>> >I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
>> > her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> kitty.  Her bad attitude is going to have to change if she expects to
> remain in this household.

Take her to your local no-kill shelter, where someone who better
understands and likes cats might adopt her. Please.
Noon Cat Nick - 01 Dec 2007 20:48 GMT
>>>>I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
>>>>her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Take her to your local no-kill shelter, where someone who better
> understands and likes cats might adopt her. Please.

Either that, or realize that there really is a bad attitude that's going
to have to change, and it's not the poor cat's.
---MIKE--- - 01 Dec 2007 23:55 GMT
Tiger is over nine years old and he still hisses for no apparent reason.
When he tries to trip me by walking in front of me he will sometimes
hiss.  I usually hiss right back at him.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
hifructose - 02 Dec 2007 02:42 GMT
> Tiger is over nine years old and he still hisses for no apparent reason.
> When he tries to trip me by walking in front of me he will sometimes
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>  >> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')

Seven replies, and not one suggestion for a likely way to correct this
serious psycho-behaviorial issue.  Not one.

I think "Miss Hissy" will be relocated to a new environment, where she
will not threaten humans who lovingly provide her with valuable food,
shelter and care.  She won't be petted much, either, but that shouldn't
be a problem since petting/touching appears to be the root of her
issues.  She will be replaced with a new kitty, one that actually enjoys
affection.

This will be my last post to this apparently useless newsgroup.  I now
leave it to the various morons and trolls -- REAL trolls, not people
trying to engage in a genuine cat behavior discussion -- who call this
place home.

/unsubs
Matthew - 02 Dec 2007 03:15 GMT
"hifructose" <sweet@sweetie.pie.void>

< snipped for being stupid>

Don't let the doorknob hit you on the way out

Rating -42
cybercat - 02 Dec 2007 03:28 GMT
>> Tiger is over nine years old and he still hisses for no apparent reason.
>> When he tries to trip me by walking in front of me he will sometimes
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> /unsubs

Another cat saved from a selfish moron.

Do them all a favor, and don't take in ANY cat.

You're way too petty and controlling to be a decent slave.
Phil P. - 04 Dec 2007 14:21 GMT
> Seven replies, and not one suggestion for a likely way to correct this
> serious psycho-behaviorial issue.  Not one.

This is a *cat* newsgroup. We can't help you with your psycho-behavioral
problem. If your cat was doing something wrong, we might be able to help
you, but your cat's only problem is you.

If you can't control yourself from antagonizing your cat, ask your vet to
find her a good home.  If he asks you why you're giving up your cat just
tell him its because you're too stupid to have a cat.  After he hears your
story, I'm sure he'll agree.
honeybunch - 02 Dec 2007 03:44 GMT
> Tiger is over nine years old and he still hisses for no apparent reason.
> When he tries to trip me by walking in front of me he will sometimes
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>  >> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')

Hi Mike, that is so sweet!  Tiger sure is adorable. My cat walks in
front of me too like that and always feels he has to be first. I wish
there were some way to get him to wrap his tail up around his body
when he eats lunch on the kitchen floor so I dont have to be careful
not to step on it.  It takes up half the kitchen floor.
Matthew - 02 Dec 2007 03:50 GMT
Tiger is over nine years old and he still hisses for no apparent reason.
When he tries to trip me by walking in front of me he will sometimes
hiss.  I usually hiss right back at him.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')

They think they're in the will don't they ;-)
Galloping Clippers - 01 Dec 2007 20:25 GMT
>>>I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
>>>her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> kitty.  Her bad attitude is going to have to change if she expects to
> remain in this household.

If you're not a troll, then you need to be educated. Your cat is just
acting normally for a cat. She is not belligerent or insolent - those
are HUMAN traits.
hifructose - 02 Dec 2007 02:25 GMT
> >>>I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> >>>her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> acting normally for a cat. She is not belligerent or insolent - those
> are HUMAN traits.

plonk
Matthew - 02 Dec 2007 00:29 GMT
"hifructose" <sweet@sweetie.pie.void>

< snipped for being BS>

You go to do better than that troll  that was a -35 on a 1 to 10 scale
hifructose - 02 Dec 2007 02:26 GMT
> "hifructose" <sweet@sweetie.pie.void>
>
> < snipped for being BS>
>
> You go to do better than that troll  that was a -35 on a 1 to 10 scale
IBen Getiner - 02 Dec 2007 10:41 GMT
> I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
> hisses.
>
> Why do you suppose she does that?

Because she probably thinks that you're trying to get fresh with her.
Are you? Why would you try to pet her down there...? That does sound a
little odd....

IBen Getiner
Sheelagh>"o"< - 02 Dec 2007 15:42 GMT
> I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
> hisses.
>
> Why do you suppose she does that?

Imagine if you were her, & someone went near your fishing tackle.? I'm
more than certain that you would have had the same reaction. She isn't
being nasty to you, she is simply afraid.

Quite recently you missed a post all about people coming to the group,
asking for help, & I was one of the people in the "why do you shout @
new people who come seeking help". It is a shame that you missed that.
If I can link it for you, I will. It is well worth reading!

The reason you are getting such a negative result here is because you
have blamed the cat entirely for this misunderstanding. Your cat
doesn't not like what  your doing- Nothing to do with doesn't like you
or appreciate what you give her.! It is more a matter of what
happened, than ungrateful for what you provide for her.

It was your response that has set everyone off. Nothing else. Because
you are acting like a troll, you will be seen as one. If you want
advice, just go about asking for it in the right manner, & show some
compassion for your cat- Threatening to throw her out will not
instigate a helpful result here. If you really want help, all you have
to do is apologize & you will receive the support that you seek.
Sheelagh >"o"<
cybercat - 02 Dec 2007 16:08 GMT
>> I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
>> her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> to do is apologize & you will receive the support that you seek.
> Sheelagh >"o"<

Well said, Sheelagh.
IBen Getiner - 02 Dec 2007 22:23 GMT
On Dec 2, 10:42�am, "Sheelagh>\"o\"<" <silkn...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> > I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> > her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> to do is apologize & you will receive the support that you seek.
> Sheelagh >"o"<

Why should he kiss your a.s...? You've got very little to add anyway.

IBen Getiner
AR - 02 Dec 2007 20:35 GMT
> I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
> hisses.
>
> Why do you suppose she does that?

My cat has similar behavior which I find really strange. He will roll
over, exposing his tummy even to strangers. If you try and touch him
there he will try and bite you, but not very hard. If cats bellies are
their most vulnerable spot, why would they expose it to a total
stranger. It's like he wants you to pet him there, and when you try he
doesn't like it!
Noon Cat Nick - 02 Dec 2007 20:53 GMT
>>I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
>>her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> stranger. It's like he wants you to pet him there, and when you try he
> doesn't like it!

Exposure of the belly is a sign of trust. He's showing that he likes and
trusts people. But touching him there betrays that trust to him, so he
responds by biting slightly, which is a restraining hold to tell the
person, "Hold it right there, buddy!"
IBen Getiner - 02 Dec 2007 22:24 GMT
On Dec 2, 3:53�pm, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEG...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> >>I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> >>her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Good f.cking answer...

IBen Getin' Mrs. Getiner
RobZip - 03 Dec 2007 18:46 GMT
>>>I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
>>>her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> responds by biting slightly, which is a restraining hold to tell the
> person, "Hold it right there, buddy!"

Is anyone going to address the issue that cats simply don't subscribe
uniformly to the same version of rationality we do?? Some like a belly rub,
some don't. My big boy Spot will often take in a nice belly rub session with
the most shameful goo-goo eyes you could imagine. Other times, he takes a
flop and the exposed belly is a prelude to a much rougher form of play.
Whichever way he goes is at his whim, not mine. Take the bait, you takes
your chances...
aloonafarida@yahoo.com - 04 Dec 2007 09:06 GMT
> >>>I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
> >>>her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Whichever way he goes is at his whim, not mine. Take the bait, you takes
> your chances...

My cats wont let anyone touch there bellies. They attack anyone who
tries. I leave them alone that way.
cybercat - 04 Dec 2007 10:31 GMT
> My cats wont let anyone touch there bellies. They attack anyone who
> tries. I leave them alone that way.

Mine looks you dead in the eye while you're petting her, flops on her
side and throws her leg back like a harlot, begging for belly rubs. Then
she makes google-eyes at you the whole time you rub it. :)
Galloping Clippers - 04 Dec 2007 14:01 GMT
>>>>I have a nice, healthy cat that enjoys being petted on her back or on
>>>>her head, but if you touch her sides or belly she flattens her ears and
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Is anyone going to address the issue that cats simply don't subscribe
> uniformly to the same version of rationality we do??

I did that.
 
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