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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2007Do not be fooled by posters here...
All you vet techs, and other kmart vet staff out there aren't fooling anyone by pretending to be only private pet owners. Maybe if enough people follow your advice you can get $11 an hour instead of $10. Or maybe if they don't, you'll be forced to find a job more commensurate with your true natures. Maybe kmart? seven-eleven? > All you vet techs, and other kmart vet staff out there aren't fooling > anyone by pretending to be only private pet owners. Maybe if enough > people follow your advice you can get $11 an hour instead of $10. Or > maybe if they don't, you'll be forced to find a job more commensurate > with your true natures. Maybe kmart? seven-eleven? How many times do we have to tell you TAKE YOUR MEDS. >All you vet techs, and other kmart vet staff out there aren't fooling >anyone by pretending to be only private pet owners. Maybe if enough >people follow your advice you can get $11 an hour instead of $10. Or >maybe if they don't, you'll be forced to find a job more commensurate >with your true natures. Maybe kmart? seven-eleven? So, you think I am a vet? I wanted to be one when I was a kid, but then I learned that vets have to euthanize animals, and I cannot do that. I can make the decision and understand the need, but I cannot do it myself. As far as income and a job, I make $13.70 an hour at a grocery store. I am not a vet, nor am I rich. I also run a small business doing pet photography. My earnings vary depnding on the travel involved, vendor costs, time of year, number of customers, etc. If you honestly believe that people here are really vets, prove it. You can start by checking my email address. It is valid and will show that I really am a pet photographer. I am definitely NOT a vet. If I were, I woudl be able to answer questions better. "Meghan Noecker" <friesian@zoocrewphoto.com> Meg it is just a troll for about the last 3 months it has been changing its display name alone@notvet.org., u@u.org, y@y.org etc. It always come from the server @aioe.org. Just a freak off their meds. One of his first post was about a how he was going to treat a eye infection with home remedy but wanted advice but did not want to hear take the cat to the vet. Than all he has done is complain about vets specially the ones from Arizona. Just a freak looking to get its jollies off. >"Meghan Noecker" <friesian@zoocrewphoto.com> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Just a freak looking to get its jollies off. I know he's a troll. But there are newbies to the list all the time, and i am sure that many of them do believe that there are vets here. I would hate for them to get the wrong idea, as many of them do. They think this is a free place to get vet advice. >>"Meghan Noecker" <friesian@zoocrewphoto.com> >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > would hate for them to get the wrong idea, as many of them do. They > think this is a free place to get vet advice. Jut making sure Meg. The nut job changes his display so much ;-) Meghan Noecker <friesian zoocrewphoto.com> wrote: What> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:16:25 +0100 (CET), boardofreality > <boardofreality notfooled.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > So, you think I am a vet? > If you honestly believe that people here are really vets, > I am definitely NOT a vet. Veterinarians probably don't post here. Veterinarian technicians (a.k.a. "vet techs") probably do. The original post makes sense to me. It could explain some of the maliciousness. This group might be a fun place to fake compassion and act like a tough guy, but promoting vet care is also a likely motive (however useless). Spammers are nasty people IMO. The profit motive might explain why a reply author would pat an original poster on the back for spending $8,000 on their pets at a veterinarian clinic. The same amount of money could have kept dozens of stray cats from dying horrible deaths on the street or for being euthanized, or it could have been used by a trap/neuter/release program. For what it's worth, I'm not saying the original poster did the wrong thing (it's a philosophical question IMO), I'm saying there are other ways and places to show you care. When someone insults a poster for not rushing to a veterinarian, that is IMO flat wrong and smells of something worse than a fake-compassionate tough guy wanna-be. Thanks for being an independent thinker and not a sheeple. > Meghan Noecker <friesian zoocrewphoto.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Veterinarians probably don't post here. Veterinarian technicians > (a.k.a. "vet techs") probably do. some do, I have had them reply to my posts. and also one veterinarian office manager. > The original post makes sense to me. It could explain some > of the maliciousness. This group might be a fun place to fake > compassion and act like a tough guy, but promoting vet care is also > a likely motive (however useless). Spammers are nasty people IMO. One persons "spammer" is another person's "whistleblower" This is the reason why you see so many "take em to a vet" as the first answer on their lips. > The profit motive might explain why a reply author would pat an > original poster on the back for spending $8,000 on their pets at a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the wrong thing (it's a philosophical question IMO), I'm saying > there are other ways and places to show you care. Yeah, FWIW, I LOVE animals and try to help them whenever I can. Animals are better than people generally. An animal won't stab u in the back, won't kill for no reason. It won't plot against you. It won't pretend to be your friend for ulterior motives. Cf. Mark Twain's essay on this, quite humorous. It is ridiculous in most cases to spend that amount of money on a pet, imo. But if you're rich, you don't really care what you spend or where it goes to as long as it helps YOU YOURSELF, in most cases. That is human nature, often. And most of these vets, they exist for owners that are willing to spend $8K or more on one animal. That is how they maintain their usually nice and expensive buildings and equipment and their frequently bloated staff. Their business is profit, not the welfare of animals. > When someone insults a poster for not rushing to a veterinarian, > that is IMO flat wrong and smells of something worse than a > fake-compassionate tough guy wanna-be. One of the nice things about the net (there's alot wrong with it) is that I can get up to date and good medical diagnostic information and treatment options in a few seconds. This means I don't have to rely on shyster "doctors" with their rip off prices and compassionless treatment. >>All you vet techs, and other kmart vet staff out there aren't fooling >>anyone by pretending to be only private pet owners. Maybe if enough [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > So, you think I am a vet? Ok, I believe you, but I still think your thinking about the issues I have raised is naive and clouded, judging from your replies. Also, MANY of the people in this group do work for vet offices, that is why their first response is always "take it to the vet" > I wanted to be one when I was a kid, but then I learned that vets have > to euthanize animals, and I cannot do that. I can make the decision > and understand the need, but I cannot do it myself. Me too, as a child. But from what I have seen about the way vet operate, they are much too cold and treat animals as objects. That is probably why they find it so easy to euthanize an animal and why they are so cold blooded in their profit mongering. > All you vet techs, and other kmart vet staff out there aren't fooling > anyone by pretending to be only private pet owners. Maybe if enough > people follow your advice you can get $11 an hour instead of $10. Or > maybe if they don't, you'll be forced to find a job more commensurate > with your true natures. Maybe kmart? seven-eleven? Oh, if only my employer would base my pay increases on my usenet postings! What a perfect world that would be. Oh K-Mart! 7-11! >All you vet techs, and other kmart vet staff out there aren't fooling >anyone by pretending to be only private pet owners. Maybe if enough Never ascribe malice to that which can be just as easily explained by ignorance and stupidity. Nobody in this group is out to get you. If anything, we're just tired of the incessant "my cat is coughing up blood, duh, what should I do" posts where the incredibly obvious answer is to get off your a.s and get kitty to a vet. >>All you vet techs, and other kmart vet staff out there aren't fooling >>anyone by pretending to be only private pet owners. Maybe if enough > > Never ascribe malice to that which can be just as easily explained by > ignorance and stupidity. I agree with the statement above. > Nobody in this group is out to get you. Never said that, can you quote me on that? If anything, we're just tired > of the incessant "my cat is coughing up blood, duh, what should I do" > posts where the incredibly obvious answer is to get off your a.s and > get kitty to a vet. Never made any such post. In a case like that, I WOULD take him to a vet. That is often an emergency situation. But most of the other stuff can be handled by an intelligent owner. Also owners that are too poor to pay up front, mercernary and inflated costs of vets, might just have to let nature have it's way in such a situation, since the predominately greedy veternarians out there DEMAND cash payment in full, regardless of the suffering of animals. Too bad for those animals and their owners. Pay or die. ... >let nature have it's way in such a situation, since the predominately >greedy veternarians out there DEMAND cash payment in full, regardless of ... Your paranoia is showing again. Please get back on your meds. >>>All you vet techs, and other kmart vet staff out there aren't fooling >>>anyone by pretending to be only private pet owners. Maybe if enough [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >the suffering of animals. Too bad for those animals and their owners. >Pay or die. Are there other professions where people do stuff and don't get paid? Why should vets be different? They have to pay off school loans, rent, staff, etc. Some vets do give a break for low income people, but often cheap bastards decide they need to pay for premium cable and a 50" plasma TV but can't afford to take kitty to the vet. Is that right? Then the owner is making the choice, not the vet. Keep enough money around to pay for your kitty's health, and then get the big TV. By the way, those big TVs use a ton of electricity. Consider that before you buy one. Oh, I'm not a vet. Or a vet assistant. Nor do I know any except the ones that I pay to treat my cats. Just like I pay to get a haircut or buy gas. Does the gas station give you free gas because you're to poor to pay for it?
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