At 11 am this morning my favorite cat Buddy was in good shape. Happily
sleeping on a towel by my bathroom sink. He had been grooming and was
looking fine. At 2:30 he was trying to walk dragging his right rear leg
limply behind him and mostly falling down. I rushed him to the vet. No
broken bones. He has a good pulse in his leg, no coldness, no heart murmur
but very diminished sensation in the leg - he can feel but not much. So
they gave him a pain killer and an anti-inflammatory and said we have to
wait and see. They are inclined not to think blood clot at this time though
it is not ruled out. He did manage to drag himself into the litter box
before I put him in the carrier. So that is good, he at least has control
of his bowels and bladder.
This is all so sudden, no warning at all. I mean he was fine just hours
earlier. At this point all I can do is wait and worry. Has anyone been
through this? I am thinking acupuncture but that has to wait till Monday.
Paul
Paul M. Cook - 30 Sep 2007 02:46 GMT
A little update. Well the back leg is now feeling colder than the left leg.
There is definitely a difference between the afflicted leg and the healthy
ones. His toe pads on the bad leg feel quite cold actually although his
pads are still a healthy pink color (he had unpigmented pads). Possibly a
clot? How do they treat these in cats? Or can they be treated?
Paul
> At 11 am this morning my favorite cat Buddy was in good shape. Happily
> sleeping on a towel by my bathroom sink. He had been grooming and was
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> Paul
cybercat - 30 Sep 2007 02:50 GMT
>A little update. Well the back leg is now feeling colder than the left
>leg.
> There is definitely a difference between the afflicted leg and the healthy
> ones. His toe pads on the bad leg feel quite cold actually although his
> pads are still a healthy pink color (he had unpigmented pads). Possibly a
> clot? How do they treat these in cats? Or can they be treated?
Poor baby. I wish I knew. Phil might know.
Cheryl - 30 Sep 2007 03:03 GMT
>>A little update. Well the back leg is now feeling colder than
>>the left leg.
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> Poor baby. I wish I knew. Phil might know.
I hope so too. I think the cold is not a good sign. ER?

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cybercat - 30 Sep 2007 03:08 GMT
> I hope so too. I think the cold is not a good sign. ER?
I think I would. I am hoping it is just some sort of nerve
damage. But could that make a limb cold?
Paul M. Cook - 30 Sep 2007 06:23 GMT
> > I hope so too. I think the cold is not a good sign. ER?
>
> I think I would. I am hoping it is just some sort of nerve
> damage. But could that make a limb cold?
I hope so too. The vet who saw Buddy seemed pretty sure it was. Which is
why Buddy is home now and not in an ER. He is sleeping comfortably at the
moment. He lets me rub his leg and does not complain. But it is driving
me nuts because if this is something time critical I'm wasting time. I can
call his vet on Monday but that's about it. All I can do is call the ER and
get a second opinion I suppose.
Paul
Phil P. - 30 Sep 2007 18:04 GMT
> A little update. Well the back leg is now feeling colder than the left leg.
> There is definitely a difference between the afflicted leg and the healthy
> ones. His toe pads on the bad leg feel quite cold actually although his
> pads are still a healthy pink color (he had unpigmented pads). Possibly a
> clot? How do they treat these in cats? Or can they be treated?
Paul,
Coolness and paresis/paralysis of a rear leg leads me to suspect a clot- a
thromboembolus lodged at the terminal abdominal aorta (the aortic
trifurcation). This type of clot usually extends down one or both iliac
arteries- if both its called a saddle thrombus. However, with this type of
clot the paw pads and/or nail beds are often cyanotic. So he might just
have a sprain or pinched nerve. Sometimes clipping a claw back to the quick
will rule in but not necessarily rule out a clot. If there's no blood flow
to the paw it won't bleed. If he has a partial clot, a small amount of
black-colored blood will usually ooze from the cut quick. You might want to
speak to your vet about that- although I'd be surprised if he didn't try it
already .
Best of luck,
Phil
Paul M. Cook - 30 Sep 2007 18:24 GMT
> > A little update. Well the back leg is now feeling colder than the left
> leg.
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> Best of luck,
There is no blue coloration of his feet. In fact they are a healthy pink
color. He has unpigmented pads and I've noticed they change color from
whitish to pink. Mood pads I call them. The vet pinched his toes fairly
hard to gauge his reaction, which was not much. He barely felt it
apparently. I can feel a pulse in his leg so it is strong enough for me to
detect it. His claws are not purple or even discolored, they are the usual
pale white color. There is nothing I can see that looks any different on
his bad leg than the other 3. His appetite is great, he ate a fairly large
amount of food earlier this evening. More so than usual.
I guess all I can do is wait and see. I have some pain meds I am to
administer for now. I will call the ER if things change - but they really
do not have my confidence so I hesitate. Still, if he shows any distress
whatsoever he will in immediately. His PC vet is back in tomorrow morning.
Why does this always happen on a weekend?
Paul
Paul M. Cook - 30 Sep 2007 06:55 GMT
OK, Buddy seems to be feeling OK. He's not moving from his bed but he's
responding well to my attention and is purring. The affected leg seems to
be OK from the knee up. If I gently (very gently) prod him with a pin he
flinches. Below the knee he doesn't seem to feel much of anything, though.
If I pull on his leg he has the strength to pull back some after he gets
tired of me. The foot feels cool to the touch, but not cold. Since he's
half white I can see his skin under the white fur and it looks like it has
color, it's not gray.
It's just driving me nuts not knowing how this developed so fast. And the
Internet searches aren't coming up with much either. No stories, no
prognosis - nothing. I have no idea where this will lead, and what hope
there may be.
Paul
> At 11 am this morning my favorite cat Buddy was in good shape. Happily
> sleeping on a towel by my bathroom sink. He had been grooming and was
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> Paul
Matthew - 30 Sep 2007 07:38 GMT
Paul did the vet check for diabetes or at least the sugar level
> OK, Buddy seems to be feeling OK. He's not moving from his bed but he's
> responding well to my attention and is purring. The affected leg seems to
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>> Paul
Paul M. Cook - 30 Sep 2007 08:28 GMT
No, nothing like that. He mentioned possibly neuropathy but I did not make
the connection to diabetes. This is all completely out of nowhere. Just
last night he was in my kitchen getting up on the counter to smell my soup
ingredients. No trouble at all jumping or getting about.
> Paul did the vet check for diabetes or at least the sugar level
>
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>>> Paul
Matthew - 30 Sep 2007 16:29 GMT
The reason I say have them check which I am not vet is that diabetic cats
can get sudden loss of appendages and they can go cold.
Rumble showed no signs that he was I noticed that he was playing with
water way more than normal. It went from there happy to say he has been
insulin free for over a year on a FF diet
> No, nothing like that. He mentioned possibly neuropathy but I did not
> make the connection to diabetes. This is all completely out of nowhere.
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>>>> Paul
Matthew - 30 Sep 2007 16:49 GMT
Forgot to add with unregulated sugar levels
> The reason I say have them check which I am not vet is that diabetic cats
> can get sudden loss of appendages and they can go cold.
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Paul M. Cook - 30 Sep 2007 17:22 GMT
I'll ask, but he has displayed no symptoms at all for anything really,
especially diabetes. Despite the fact that he has quite a few health
issues, he has been remarkably stable until now.
Paul
> Forgot to add with unregulated sugar levels
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Matthew - 30 Sep 2007 18:07 GMT
Paul My rumble was perfect ate great played like a kitten. He had regular
vet visits blood work was fine. The only reason I noticed a problem is
Rumble would play for hours with the dripping faucet. He had never done
that. I mentioned it to my vet he said bring him in he had a hunch and
away we went.
I am not a vet your vet knows best ( hopefully ) I am just offering my 2
cents. It never hurts to ask
> I'll ask, but he has displayed no symptoms at all for anything really,
> especially diabetes. Despite the fact that he has quite a few health
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Matthew - 30 Sep 2007 18:19 GMT
And let me add when Phil pipes in he will know a lot more than me
> Paul My rumble was perfect ate great played like a kitten. He had
> regular vet visits blood work was fine. The only reason I noticed a
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Paul M. Cook - 30 Sep 2007 18:28 GMT
It never hurts to ask. And I will. I will have him up to his PC vet first
thing in the AM. I am holding off on the ER because he seems to be
comfortable and eating and he managed to get himself into the litter box OK.
He has bad arthritis in his right hip joint and I am hoping perhaps he had a
bad landing and twisted his leg. I've been awake all night reading up on
blood clots in cats and also diabetes since you mentioned it. So far, it
really does not seem to fit the symptoms.
Paul
> Paul My rumble was perfect ate great played like a kitten. He had regular
> vet visits blood work was fine. The only reason I noticed a problem is
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Matthew - 30 Sep 2007 18:44 GMT
I hope everything goes ok
The only reason I mentioned diabetes is I have seen cats that unregulated
sugar levels loss the ability to use one or more legs.
I have seen them get cold before. It was just my 2 cents. I hope
everything works out.
PS It always happens on a weekend for that is the time when we are at ease
> It never hurts to ask. And I will. I will have him up to his PC vet
> first
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Paul M. Cook - 01 Oct 2007 04:18 GMT
OK, my superstitious side wouldn't let me post until I had waited so as not
to tempt fate. But Buddy seems to be doing a bit better. He's clearly not
comfortable back there. But he is able to put weight on the foot and walk
albeight like a drunken sailor on liberty. He seems to know spatially where
his foot is now and it is not dragging like a limp rag and getting his claws
caught up in the carpet. He is mostly inactive but he did eat well tonight
and can get around when he wants to.
OK, so that's sure better than yesterday. Would everyone agree that we
seem to be dealing with a nerve issue here? I'm calling 2 vets in the
general area who practice accupuncture. Long drive in a car for a cat but
if it helps him he'll just have to be brave.
What a scare this has been. I sure hope it's just a freak accident. This
is Buddy, a most dignified, wise and gentlemanly cat.
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Paul
cybercat - 01 Oct 2007 06:15 GMT
> Would everyone agree that we seem to be dealing with a nerve issue here?
Sounds like it to me.
I'm calling 2 vets in the
> general area who practice accupuncture. Long drive in a car for a cat but
> if it helps him he'll just have to be brave.
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He's very handsome. I wish his ear had not been tipped.
Hope he's feeling better soon.
Paul M. Cook - 01 Oct 2007 06:38 GMT
>> Would everyone agree that we seem to be dealing with a nerve issue here?
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> He's very handsome. I wish his ear had not been tipped.
> Hope he's feeling better soon.
Thank you. He was neutered as part of a state run program while he was
living rough in an industrial park. Had it not been for that program he
would have been put down instead. So he lost half an ear but kept his life.
Which is when I found him shortly after my first cat had passed away. The
two of them share remarkable similarities in personality.
But unfortunately those hard years seem to be haunting him now in his golden
years.
Paul
Matthew - 01 Oct 2007 11:23 GMT
>>> Would everyone agree that we seem to be dealing with a nerve issue here?
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> Paul
Paul good luck. After reading everything late last night the nerve part
seems like the issue. I hope everything goes ok today
Sheelagh >o< - 01 Oct 2007 16:25 GMT
> >> Would everyone agree that we seem to be dealing with a nerve issue here?
>
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Now there is a handsome cat :o)
Good luck, I hope this all works out well....
Best Wishes,
Sheelagh >"o"<
cybercat - 01 Oct 2007 19:30 GMT
> Thank you. He was neutered as part of a state run program while he was
> living rough in an industrial park. Had it not been for that program he
> would have been put down instead. So he lost half an ear but kept his
> life.
Well of course it was worth losing a little piece of ear. I just hate that
practice,
for no better reason than I find cats so lovely, and it seems there should
be
a better way than this.
> Which is when I found him shortly after my first cat had passed away. The
> two of them share remarkable similarities in personality.
>
> But unfortunately those hard years seem to be haunting him now in his
> golden years.
I pray for cats! ;)
He's a very lucky boy to have you and you him.
Forsteen@gmail.com - 07 Oct 2007 20:04 GMT
I'm in the same position. I cat D.J. ended up losing legs motor
function in the rear legs and loss of bladder control this morning at
around 3:00 AM. I will have to wait another 3 to 5 hours for the vet
to open up. The unfortunate thing is I live in Japan and the on base
vet is gone on TDY so there is no emergency clinics and the off base
vet clinics don't open unit 7 -9 AM.
Sheelagh >o< - 08 Oct 2007 13:57 GMT
> I'm in the same position. I cat D.J. ended up losing legs motor
> function in the rear legs and loss of bladder control this morning at
> around 3:00 AM. I will have to wait another 3 to 5 hours for the vet
> to open up. The unfortunate thing is I live in Japan and the on base
> vet is gone on TDY so there is no emergency clinics and the off base
> vet clinics don't open unit 7 -9 AM.
Purrs of comfort & Prayers again. Let us know how you get on when you
see the vet please?
Thanks in advance,
Sheelagh >"o"<
Forsteen@gmail.com - 09 Oct 2007 03:49 GMT
Took him back early this morning with some movement in his tail and
not much of the his right leg. The vet is going to keep him for the
rest of the day and see what he can do.
Forsteen@gmail.com - 09 Oct 2007 10:28 GMT
It isn't good guys. Just found out that he has a rare disease that
causes heart inflammation and the vet said it's pretty much terminal.
Maybe 3 months to live. I will be picking up some medicine tomorrow
to help get the blockage from his vein so he start walking again.
Sometimes I think that just maybe something will happen and he will
get better. If the medicine doesn't help him get rid of the blockage
I will have no choice to put him to sleep earlier than I wanted out of
mercy sake. He won't be able to walk. Just wanted to let you know.
Forsteen@gmail.com - 09 Oct 2007 10:28 GMT
It isn't good guys. Just found out that he has a rare disease that
causes heart inflammation and the vet said it's pretty much terminal.
Maybe 3 months to live. I will be picking up some medicine tomorrow
to help get the blockage from his vein so he start walking again.
Sometimes I think that just maybe something will happen and he will
get better. If the medicine doesn't help him get rid of the blockage
I will have no choice to put him to sleep earlier than I wanted out of
mercy sake. He won't be able to walk. Just wanted to let you know.
Forsteen@gmail.com - 09 Oct 2007 11:16 GMT
It isn't good guys. Just found out that he has a rare disease that
causes heart inflammation and the vet said it's pretty much terminal.
Maybe 3 months to live. I will be picking up some medicine tomorrow
to help get the blockage from his vein so he start walking again.
Sometimes I think that just maybe something will happen and he will
get better. If the medicine doesn't help him get rid of the blockage
I will have no choice to put him to sleep earlier than I wanted out of
mercy sake. He won't be able to walk. Just wanted to let you know.
jmc - 09 Oct 2007 11:55 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, Forsteen@gmail.com exclaimed (10/9/2007 7:46 PM):
> It isn't good guys. Just found out that he has a rare disease that
> causes heart inflammation and the vet said it's pretty much terminal.
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> I will have no choice to put him to sleep earlier than I wanted out of
> mercy sake. He won't be able to walk. Just wanted to let you know.
I'm so sorry to hear that. It's times like this that we desperately
hope the vet is wrong... I do hope the medicine works. Is there no
treatment for the inflammation? Can you get a second opinion?
jmc
Forsteen@gmail.com - 09 Oct 2007 13:28 GMT
> Suddenly, without warning, Forst...@gmail.com exclaimed (10/9/2007 7:46 PM):
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> jmc
I've read up on heart disease and what the vet told me was that it has
progressed to far. I will go see the on-base vet tomorrow, but I
don't know. They gave me the x-ray and we will see.
Forsteen@gmail.com - 12 Oct 2007 08:31 GMT
Well I had to put my D.J. to sleep. The medicine to remove the clot
didn't work and it was completely uncomfortable for him trying to move
around. Didn't have a choice so he went silently. To bad he was only
a couple of years old.
dgk - 12 Oct 2007 13:02 GMT
>Well I had to put my D.J. to sleep. The medicine to remove the clot
>didn't work and it was completely uncomfortable for him trying to move
>around. Didn't have a choice so he went silently. To bad he was only
>a couple of years old.
Oh, I'm sorry. My cat LuckyBoy developed a clot in the saddle area. I
found him downstairs one morning in a cardboard box. He must have made
it down with his back legs not working and crawled into the box. A
heart condition was the underlying problem it turns out (no surprise
there). While he was in for treatment at the specialty vet they called
me and said that he had more clots in the heart waiting to emerge and
that it would ge pointless to try to save him
LuckyBoy was around seven when he died.
I groan whenever I see a post that mentions the back legs not working,
like yours. I always hope for a better outcome, but that subject line
seems to be a bad one.
Gail - 12 Oct 2007 14:08 GMT
I am soooo sorry for your loss. You really loved him and tried everything
you could.
Gail
> Well I had to put my D.J. to sleep. The medicine to remove the clot
> didn't work and it was completely uncomfortable for him trying to move
> around. Didn't have a choice so he went silently. To bad he was only
> a couple of years old.
Matthew - 12 Oct 2007 15:39 GMT
I am so sorry for your loss
> Well I had to put my D.J. to sleep. The medicine to remove the clot
> didn't work and it was completely uncomfortable for him trying to move
> around. Didn't have a choice so he went silently. To bad he was only
> a couple of years old.
-Lost - 09 Oct 2007 14:14 GMT
Response from "Paul M. Cook" <pmBERMUDA_SHORTScook@gte.net>:
All right Paul, it has been a full week since your last post. What is
going on with Buddy?
Thanks.

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