Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / September 2007
What is it with kitty's belly that makes her attack?
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-Lost - 23 Sep 2007 01:58 GMT OK, attack is a rather strong word, because she IS playing, but when you have itty-bitty SUPER SHARP kitten teeth and claws, gentle playing becomes "peeling kitty's claws out of your hand."
We do a lot of "touch therapy" with our animals and the new kitten is no exception. She can get manhandled, smooshed, rubbed on, you know the whole lovey dovey routine...
...BUT, if and when you rub her belly, 90% of the time it fires her "time to play with teeth and claws" mode. The other 10% of the time she not already worked up or in play mode and she purrs loudly when her belly is rubbed.
What in the world is making Gabby (our kitten) so playfully vicious when we touch her belly?
Oh, and no... nothing is wrong with her belly visibly. I also checked for tenderness, lumps, et cetera and she seems fine. For example if I hold her and feel her belly she is OK. If I lay her on the floor or beside me on the couch and rub her belly she attacks my hand with all 4 paws, and teeth and then goes bouncing down the hall attacking everything along the way (children, dogs, furniture, scratching post that she still won't use, et cetera).
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Grace - 23 Sep 2007 02:39 GMT Though our cat is certainly not a kitten anymore, she will *bunny thump* us with ther hind feet anytime that we try to rub her belly. It starts out innocent enough, but then, she wraps her big old front paws around our arms and starts beating us up with her hind feet. I'm not really sure if it's aggressive behavior, a hunting behavior, or just rough play. I'm really curious now.
Grace
-Lost - 23 Sep 2007 04:38 GMT Response from Grace <gracepdm@windstream.net>:
> Though our cat is certainly not a kitten anymore, she will *bunny > thump* us with ther hind feet anytime that we try to rub her > belly. It starts out innocent enough, but then, she wraps her big > old front paws around our arms and starts beating us up with her > hind feet. I'm not really sure if it's aggressive behavior, a > hunting behavior, or just rough play. I'm really curious now. That is EXACTLY what Gabby is doing! Only thing is, her "bunny thumping" starts AFTER she starts in with her front paws and teeth. And she digs in deep with those hind legs too, sheesh.
Every now and again, I noticed her ears would fall flat against her skull... you know the "demonic cat" look. Yet, she never appears to be getting upset and of course we are not doing anything that would hurt her. I say she appears to not get upset because we can simply pry our hand from her grip and she just lays there. Or sometimes chases us down and leaps on us... still playing.
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---MIKE--- - 23 Sep 2007 13:44 GMT Tiger does the "bunny thump" but I can rub Amber's belly anytime and she seems to enjoy it.
---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') Grace - 23 Sep 2007 15:14 GMT Lyric puts her ears back, too! There is also a lot of yowling and growling, yet, once we finally manage to get our hands and arms away from her, she jumps right back in for more. She walks around us as if she is *stalking* us. Yowling, ears back, tail switching, crouching nearby. It is funny, but the biting, scratching and thumping hurts! Sometimes she will do her sneak attack, which is when she hides behind something, only to shoot out and grab a leg, gnaw, thump and scratch, and then disappear again.
Grace
Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 19:11 GMT > Though our cat is certainly not a kitten anymore, she will *bunny > thump* us with ther hind feet anytime that we try to rub her belly. > It starts out innocent enough, but then, she wraps her big old front > paws around our arms and starts beating us up with her hind feet. > I'm not really sure if it's aggressive behavior, a hunting behavior, > or just rough play. I'm really curious now. She's disemboweling your hand, the little killer! :-)
My male cats have never really liked their tummies rubbed, though my youngest will allow it when he's suckling. My mother's 2 females love having their tummies rubbed, so I'm guessing it's just a personal preference with each kitty.
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cybercat - 23 Sep 2007 19:19 GMT > My male cats have never really liked their tummies rubbed, though my > youngest will allow it when he's suckling. My mother's 2 females love > having their tummies rubbed, so I'm guessing it's just a personal > preference with each kitty. Gracie melts onto her back, splays her lets, and gazes dreamily at me when I pet her belly. It is so silky, with creamy colored spotted fur. She is hilarious, her face is so expressive. Sometimes she heaves this enormous sigh. :) This cat is seven lanky pounds of pure personality. My cat is the Best Cat Ever, just like everybody else's cat!
Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 19:28 GMT on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:19:15 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Gracie melts onto her back, splays her lets, and gazes dreamily at me > when I pet her The little slut!!
> belly. It is so silky, with creamy colored spotted fur. She is > hilarious, her face is so expressive. Sometimes she heaves this > enormous sigh. :) This cat is seven lanky pounds of pure personality. > My cat is the Best Cat Ever, just like everybody else's cat! She is the Best Cat Ever, with lots of good company up on that pedestal!
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cybercat - 23 Sep 2007 19:36 GMT > on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:19:15 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The little slut!! Precisely. :) She had been here maybe three months when one night, while I was petting her as she lay on her side on the bed, she threw her leg back like it was on a hinge and looked at me. lol
Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 19:41 GMT on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:36:07 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Precisely. :) She had been here maybe three months when one night, > while I was petting her as she lay on her side on the bed, she threw > her leg back like it was on a hinge and looked at me. lol "come hither!"
Too effin cute. I want to bury my face in her tummy.
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Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 19:45 GMT on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:41:42 GMT, Lynne <unmonitored.email@gmail.com> wrote:
> Too effin cute. I want to bury my face in her tummy. speaking of which, I have updated photos of the pup. They start here and once the first one loads (takes a bit) you can click through the rest of them:
http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/BeastsPlusHendrix/photo# 5112395407118914738
or
http://tinyurl.com/ywbtj2
Beware, the first two are XXX rated!
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-Lost - 23 Sep 2007 23:07 GMT Response from Lynne <unmonitored.email@gmail.com>:
> on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:41:42 GMT, Lynne > <unmonitored.email@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Beware, the first two are XXX rated! I am glad to see I am not the only one who gets a kick out of "butt swirls."
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Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 23:20 GMT on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:07:06 GMT, "-Lost" <maventheextrawords@techie.com> wrote:
> I am glad to see I am not the only one who gets a kick out of "butt > swirls." Haha, cool. Another weirdo like me! They are soooo cute, though.
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cybercat - 23 Sep 2007 23:35 GMT > on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:07:06 GMT, "-Lost" <maventheextrawords@techie.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Haha, cool. Another weirdo like me! They are soooo cute, though. It's true. I will not be able to look at another puppy butt without thinking about them. >:)
cybercat - 23 Sep 2007 23:34 GMT > on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:41:42 GMT, Lynne <unmonitored.email@gmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Beware, the first two are XXX rated! Oh, Lynne, he has gotten so big! What a total doll. I love the light brown color of his eyes. Butt swirls! lol Really, he is a dog even a strictly cat person can love.
Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 23:41 GMT on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:34:46 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Oh, Lynne, he has gotten so big! What a total doll. I love the light > brown color > of his eyes. Butt swirls! lol Really, he is a dog even a strictly cat > person can love. I got so lucky with this little mutt (yeah, I know he's not little anymore, but he's still a baby!). I marvel at my luck daily. He's the sweetest most eager to please pup, and he LOVES the kitties. Rudy has always been fine with him (Rudy loves even clumsy puppies who accidentally step on him), but now even Levi loves him. Hendrix likes to clean out their ears with his tongue. Mine, too, haha.
Roxy, my other dog, also has butt swirls. I guess they all do but these are my first "naked" dogs and I just never noticed them before on other people's dogs. You will see them everywhere now. :-)
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bobblespin - 23 Sep 2007 15:14 GMT > OK, attack is a rather strong word, because she IS playing, but when > you have itty-bitty SUPER SHARP kitten teeth and claws, gentle [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > attacking everything along the way (children, dogs, furniture, > scratching post that she still won't use, et cetera). Half the cats we've owned over the last 40 years love a belly rub, the other half will shred our hand if we go near it. Seems to be a preference thing with cats. And those that love it, really really love it. Bobble
-Lost - 23 Sep 2007 23:01 GMT Response from bobblespin <nospam@nothing.com>:
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>> What in the world is making Gabby (our kitten) so playfully >> vicious when we touch her belly? <snip>
> Half the cats we've owned over the last 40 years love a belly rub, > the other half will shred our hand if we go near it. Seems to be > a preference thing with cats. And those that love it, really > really love it. I think you are right. As ---Mike and Lynne said also, it appears it is entirely personal preference. Although I have known quite a few cats to go a little mountain lion when their tummies are rubbed. Maybe I should stop handling the catnip extract or something? Haha!
Thanks for the feedback, Bobble.
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