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What is it with kitty's belly that makes her attack?

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-Lost - 23 Sep 2007 01:58 GMT
OK, attack is a rather strong word, because she IS playing, but when
you have itty-bitty SUPER SHARP kitten teeth and claws, gentle
playing becomes "peeling kitty's claws out of your hand."

We do a lot of "touch therapy" with our animals and the new kitten is
no exception.  She can get manhandled, smooshed, rubbed on, you know
the whole lovey dovey routine...

...BUT, if and when you rub her belly, 90% of the time it fires her
"time to play with teeth and claws" mode.  The other 10% of the time
she not already worked up or in play mode and she purrs loudly when
her belly is rubbed.

What in the world is making Gabby (our kitten) so playfully vicious
when we touch her belly?

Oh, and no... nothing is wrong with her belly visibly.  I also
checked for tenderness, lumps, et cetera and she seems fine.  For
example if I hold her and feel her belly she is OK.  If I lay her on
the floor or beside me on the couch and rub her belly she attacks my
hand with all 4 paws, and teeth and then goes bouncing down the hall
attacking everything along the way (children, dogs, furniture,
scratching post that she still won't use, et cetera).

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Grace - 23 Sep 2007 02:39 GMT
Though our cat is certainly not a kitten anymore, she will *bunny
thump* us with ther hind feet anytime that we try to rub her belly.
It starts out innocent enough, but then, she wraps her big old front
paws around our arms and starts beating us up with her hind feet.
I'm not really sure if it's aggressive behavior, a hunting behavior,
or just rough play. I'm really curious now.

Grace
-Lost - 23 Sep 2007 04:38 GMT
Response from Grace <gracepdm@windstream.net>:

> Though our cat is certainly not a kitten anymore, she will *bunny
> thump* us with ther hind feet anytime that we try to rub her
> belly. It starts out innocent enough, but then, she wraps her big
> old front paws around our arms and starts beating us up with her
> hind feet. I'm not really sure if it's aggressive behavior, a
> hunting behavior, or just rough play. I'm really curious now.

That is EXACTLY what Gabby is doing!  Only thing is, her "bunny
thumping" starts AFTER she starts in with her front paws and teeth.
And she digs in deep with those hind legs too, sheesh.

Every now and again, I noticed her ears would fall flat against her
skull... you know the "demonic cat" look.  Yet, she never appears to
be getting upset and of course we are not doing anything that would
hurt her.  I say she appears to not get upset because we can simply
pry our hand from her grip and she just lays there.  Or sometimes
chases us down and leaps on us... still playing.

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---MIKE--- - 23 Sep 2007 13:44 GMT
Tiger does the "bunny thump" but I can rub Amber's belly anytime and she
seems to enjoy it.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
Grace - 23 Sep 2007 15:14 GMT
Lyric puts her ears back, too! There is also a lot of yowling and
growling, yet, once we finally manage to get our hands and arms away
from her, she jumps right back in for more.   She walks around us as
if she is *stalking* us.  Yowling, ears back, tail switching,
crouching nearby.  It is funny, but the biting, scratching and
thumping hurts!  Sometimes she will do her sneak  attack, which is
when she hides behind something, only to shoot out and grab a leg,
gnaw, thump and scratch, and then disappear again.

Grace
Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 19:11 GMT
> Though our cat is certainly not a kitten anymore, she will *bunny
> thump* us with ther hind feet anytime that we try to rub her belly.
> It starts out innocent enough, but then, she wraps her big old front
> paws around our arms and starts beating us up with her hind feet.
> I'm not really sure if it's aggressive behavior, a hunting behavior,
> or just rough play. I'm really curious now.

She's disemboweling your hand, the little killer!  :-)

My male cats have never really liked their tummies rubbed, though my
youngest will allow it when he's suckling.  My mother's 2 females love
having their tummies rubbed, so I'm guessing it's just a personal
preference with each kitty.

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cybercat - 23 Sep 2007 19:19 GMT
> My male cats have never really liked their tummies rubbed, though my
> youngest will allow it when he's suckling.  My mother's 2 females love
> having their tummies rubbed, so I'm guessing it's just a personal
> preference with each kitty.

Gracie melts onto her back, splays her lets, and gazes dreamily at me when I
pet her
belly. It is so silky, with creamy colored spotted fur. She is hilarious,
her face is so expressive. Sometimes she heaves this enormous sigh. :)
This cat is seven lanky pounds of pure personality. My cat is the Best
Cat Ever, just like everybody else's cat!
Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 19:28 GMT
on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:19:15 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Gracie melts onto her back, splays her lets, and gazes dreamily at me
> when I pet her

The little slut!!

> belly. It is so silky, with creamy colored spotted fur. She is
> hilarious, her face is so expressive. Sometimes she heaves this
> enormous sigh. :) This cat is seven lanky pounds of pure personality.
> My cat is the Best Cat Ever, just like everybody else's cat!

She is the Best Cat Ever, with lots of good company up on that pedestal!

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cybercat - 23 Sep 2007 19:36 GMT
> on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:19:15 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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>
> The little slut!!

Precisely. :) She had been here maybe three months when one night, while I
was petting her as she lay on her side on the bed, she threw her leg back
like it was on a hinge and looked at me. lol
Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 19:41 GMT
on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:36:07 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Precisely. :) She had been here maybe three months when one night,
> while I was petting her as she lay on her side on the bed, she threw
> her leg back like it was on a hinge and looked at me. lol

"come hither!"

Too effin cute.  I want to bury my face in her tummy.

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Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 19:45 GMT
on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:41:42 GMT, Lynne <unmonitored.email@gmail.com>
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> Too effin cute.  I want to bury my face in her tummy.

speaking of which, I have updated photos of the pup.  They start here and
once the first one loads (takes a bit) you can click through the rest of
them:

http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/BeastsPlusHendrix/photo#
5112395407118914738

or

http://tinyurl.com/ywbtj2

Beware, the first two are XXX rated!

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-Lost - 23 Sep 2007 23:07 GMT
Response from Lynne <unmonitored.email@gmail.com>:

> on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:41:42 GMT, Lynne
> <unmonitored.email@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Beware, the first two are XXX rated!

I am glad to see I am not the only one who gets a kick out of "butt
swirls."

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Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 23:20 GMT
on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:07:06 GMT, "-Lost" <maventheextrawords@techie.com>
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> I am glad to see I am not the only one who gets a kick out of "butt
> swirls."

Haha, cool.  Another weirdo like me!  They are soooo cute, though.

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cybercat - 23 Sep 2007 23:35 GMT
> on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:07:06 GMT, "-Lost" <maventheextrawords@techie.com>
> wrote:
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> Haha, cool.  Another weirdo like me!  They are soooo cute, though.

It's true. I will not be able to look at another puppy butt without thinking
about them. >:)
cybercat - 23 Sep 2007 23:34 GMT
> on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:41:42 GMT, Lynne <unmonitored.email@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Beware, the first two are XXX rated!

Oh, Lynne, he has gotten so big! What a total doll. I love the light brown
color
of his eyes. Butt swirls! lol Really, he is a dog even a strictly cat person
can love.
Lynne - 23 Sep 2007 23:41 GMT
on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:34:46 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com>
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> Oh, Lynne, he has gotten so big! What a total doll. I love the light
> brown color
> of his eyes. Butt swirls! lol Really, he is a dog even a strictly cat
> person can love.

I got so lucky with this little mutt (yeah, I know he's not little anymore,
but he's still a baby!).  I marvel at my luck daily.  He's the sweetest
most eager to please pup, and he LOVES the kitties.  Rudy has always been
fine with him (Rudy loves even clumsy puppies who accidentally step on
him), but now even Levi loves him.  Hendrix likes to clean out their ears
with his tongue.  Mine, too, haha.

Roxy, my other dog, also has butt swirls.  I guess they all do but these
are my first "naked" dogs and I just never noticed them before on other
people's dogs.  You will see them everywhere now.  :-)

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bobblespin - 23 Sep 2007 15:14 GMT
> OK, attack is a rather strong word, because she IS playing, but when
> you have itty-bitty SUPER SHARP kitten teeth and claws, gentle
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> attacking everything along the way (children, dogs, furniture,
> scratching post that she still won't use, et cetera).

Half the cats we've owned over the last 40 years love a belly rub, the
other half will shred our hand if we go near it.  Seems to be a
preference thing with cats. And those that love it, really really love
it.
Bobble
-Lost - 23 Sep 2007 23:01 GMT
Response from bobblespin <nospam@nothing.com>:

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>> What in the world is making Gabby (our kitten) so playfully
>> vicious when we touch her belly?

<snip>

> Half the cats we've owned over the last 40 years love a belly rub,
> the other half will shred our hand if we go near it.  Seems to be
> a preference thing with cats. And those that love it, really
> really love it.

I think you are right.  As ---Mike and Lynne said also, it appears it
is entirely personal preference.  Although I have known quite a few
cats to go a little mountain lion when their tummies are rubbed.  
Maybe I should stop handling the catnip extract or something?  Haha!

Thanks for the feedback, Bobble.

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