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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / September 2007PLS HELP!!! ABANDON CAT IN TWO DAYS. PLS HELP!!!! I DONT WANT TO LEAVE HIM LIKE THIS
I am leaving this country soon and i cant take my cat with me. i've asked friends and called several animal shelters by long island and queens to take him. so far, no one and no animal shlters would take him. I am leaving in a coupld of days. If i cant find him a place to stay or a new owner, I would have no choice but to let him go on his own. PLEASE, IF SOMEONE KNOWS ANY ANIMAL SHELTER BY NEW YORK CITY THAT WILL TAKE CAT OR IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN HIM, PLS LET ME KNOW. I really dont want to leave him like this. he is 7 year old male, light orange fur, neutered, domestic short hair, very gentle and sweet. loved to be brushed and pet. i dont know how to post picture, if you want see him, i can definitely email it to you. Your help is greatly appreciated. Pls help me to find him a new home. a million thanks. > I am leaving this country soon and i cant take my cat with me. i've > asked friends and called several animal shelters by long island and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Your help is greatly appreciated. Pls help me to find him a new home. > a million thanks. Put him in your freezer overnight on the evening before you fly out, then pack him in a box with dry ice, and ship him to your new home. Priority Overnight is best, but it may be okay to go with 2 Day Air if you're strapped for cash. If he's fat, you won't need as much packing material, but be sure to insulate him from the dry ice. Do you have one of those vacuum sealer bag thingies? (For the cat, not the dry ice.) Thaw him out slowly when you get there so he isn't scared when he comes back to life. Problem solved!  SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it > on Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:52:48 GMT, msflyingpiggy > <eoperi@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Thaw him out slowly when you get there so he isn't scared when > he comes back to life. Problem solved! Lynne, I think a warm cat will probably need more than an overnight stay in the freezer. I'd go for at least 24 hours. I wonder how big he is? SignatureCheryl on Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:16:39 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: > Lynne, I think a warm cat will probably need more than an overnight > stay in the freezer. I'd go for at least 24 hours. I wonder how big > he is? Silly me! You are so right. I always assume everyone has one of these handy dandy new cryogenic Frigidaires. I'm so spoiled! Anyone have the chill time for live cats, per pound? And doesn't it vary depending on the length and thickness of the fur? or is that a myth? SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it > on Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:16:39 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> > wrote: < snipped> ??????????????????????????????????????????? Am I missing something here or are both of off you medicine tonight >> on Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:16:39 GMT, Cheryl >> <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Am I missing something here or are both of off you medicine > tonight I'm fine. How are you? ;) SignatureCheryl >>> on Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:16:39 GMT, Cheryl >>> <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm fine. How are you? ;) Ok still on a sugar rush from my cookies I goggled her email I don't think it is a troll just someone desperate Either way I emailed Phil > >>> on Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:16:39 GMT, Cheryl > >>> <jlhsha...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I agree. I don't think anyone would come to this group & say something like that, because she is leaving herself open to criticism. Anyone who does that is either desperate, or stupid & Judging by the evidence, I don't think she sounds stupid. If you treat people with that kind of cynicism is very unlikely to come back & take another kicking, are they? What message does this send out too? I thought people came here for advise, not to be abused verbally. K. >> >>> on Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:16:39 GMT, Cheryl >> >>> <jlhsha...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > I thought people came here for advise, not to be abused verbally. > K. It turns out that the other posters were WRONG this time. Sheelagh has already said what happened but it is too late now. At least the young lady thru private email told us what was going on. Phil even told me what was going on thru private email. The others owe her an apology but we know that will never happen. Always treat it as it is true but the others have gotten too cynical and always assume the worse. This time it slapped them in the face. on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:23:27 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > Always treat it as it is true but the others have gotten too cynical and > always assume the worse. This time it slapped them in the face. I don't feel slapped in the face. My post was obviously not serious, but had it been, I would have told her that she is an irresponsible a.shole who doesn't deserve the company of cats EVER AGAIN. I hope that cat is safe now. ANYTHING is better than being with someone who would leave him loose on the streets because she's too stupid to have made proper arrangments before leaving the f.cking country. SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it > on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:23:27 GMT, "Matthew" > <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > too stupid to have made proper arrangments before leaving the > f.cking country. Exactly. I think most people here know that neither of us would tell someone to freeze their cat and really mean it. Matthew's just trying to stir up trouble. Must be a slow day. SignatureCheryl >> on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:23:27 GMT, "Matthew" >> <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > tell someone to freeze their cat and really mean it. Matthew's just > trying to stir up trouble. Must be a slow day. Sorry if the truth hurts >>> on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:23:27 GMT, "Matthew" >>> <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Sorry if the truth hurts Just *your* truth, dear heart. And you're doing a good job of propagating it. SignatureCheryl on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:47:09 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > Sorry if the truth hurts The only truth here is that the OP is a worthless moron, and you're defending her selfish actions. SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it >> on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:23:27 GMT, "Matthew" >> <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > tell someone to freeze their cat and really mean it. Matthew's just > trying to stir up trouble. Must be a slow day. rec.pets.cats.health+behav <news:46effb79$0$7507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>: > It turns out that the other posters were WRONG this time. > Sheelagh has already said what happened but it is too late now. > At least the young lady thru private email told us what was > going on. Phil even told me what was going on thru private > email. The others owe her an apology but we know that will > never happen. > Always treat it as it is true but the others have gotten too > cynical and always assume the worse. This time it slapped them > in the face. This coming from one of the biggest flamers on this group. You're really good at pointing fingers and incriminating Lynne and I in this thread and others in other threads. Try looking in the mirror some time. I don't feel the least bit slapped in the face. I RARELY call troll and usually ignore what I consider a troll post but in reading it, it pissed me off that someone would wait so long and then say they were putting the cat out on the street, so I ignored my own policy and jumped in this time calling "troll" in what was supposed to be a funny way BECAUSE I DIDN'T BELIEVE A WORD OF IT AND STILL DON'T. You should know I would never tell someone to freeze their cat and mean it. Sheesh. So killfile me if you think a little off-humor is so horrifying. You've done WAY worse and I'm sure the poster is laughing at the commotion they intentionally caused. Again sorry if the truth hurts deal with it. Don't believe it ask Phil or Sheelagh. And I have never done way worse except to know trolls or a post that you can tell is done by a trouble maker. Than they are fair targets Why don't you kill file me if you think I am that way. At least I tried to do something. I can look in the mirror and know I did the right thing. I know I can be stubborn and be an a@@ when I want to be but so many of you can and have been before also no one is innocent. Definitely become to cynical for your all own well being. Not defending the original poster but we tell people this is the last place to come for help. No wonder some many avoid this group. Yes many have come her and been a@@'s but not all of them are trolls or a@@holes. The benefit of the doubt is always the best bet. When you assume what people mean when you post you are putting your own emotions into it. With out a voice behind it they are just words with no meaning. We don't ever know what the posters have done. What are we expecting their life story before we offer help now. What do we want a full back ground check. Sheesh people grow up offer the help. What is your pride or dignity to great where you think that everyone is out to be a troll or cause trouble. Almost everyone here is an educated cat slave. We know the right and wrongs not everyone is that way. Yet you all assume they are as knowledgeable and or blessed at being a cat slave as all of us. I know that you all know that people do think letting their animal go is the right thing to do instead of the shelter that the animal would be better off than being put to sleep. How many of us have rescued animals from the side of the road. We know that people have this mentality. As another poster pointed some many people wait till the last moment to deal with it. Thinking the best will happen if they wait. That is in human nature it is bad but true. How many of us have done something like this before we got educated. You all can be mad at me, cuss at me, flame me, whatever but you know I am right. Whether you were joking, being pissed off at the poster or whatever the slap in the face is the one time someone needed help they got what they got. You can flame me or whatever. I stopped wanting to get into arguments a while again but this is the one time I am ashamed of some of the people here. <snip holier than thou bullcrap> > You all can be mad at me, cuss at me, flame me, whatever but you > know I am right. Whether you were joking, being pissed off at > the poster or whatever the slap in the face is the one time > someone needed help they got what they got. You're hysterical. Go take a nap. SignatureCheryl > < it can set you free> >> You all can be mad at me, cuss at me, flame me, whatever but you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > You're hysterical. Go take a nap. Ha ha you made a funny > It turns out that the other posters were WRONG this time. > Sheelagh has already said what happened but it is too late now. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cynical and always assume the worse. This time it slapped them > in the face. This coming from one of the biggest flamers on this group. You're really good at pointing fingers and incriminating Lynne and I in this thread and others in other threads. Try looking in the mirror some time. I don't feel the least bit slapped in the face. I RARELY call troll and usually ignore what I consider a torll post but in reading it, it pissed me off that someone would wait so long and then say they were putting the cat out on the street, so I ignored my own policy and jumped in this time calling "troll" in what was supposed to be a funny way BECAUSE I DIDN'T BELIEVE A WORD OF IT AND STILL DON'T. You should know I would never tell someone to freeze their cat and mean it. Sheesh. So killfile me if you think a little off-humor is so horrifying. You've done WAY worse and I'm sure the poster is laughing at the commotion they intentionaly caused. SignatureCheryl on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:33:36 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: > You've done WAY worse Yep. Not sure why Matthew is waving his holier than thou flag here. Good grief, how utterly hypocritical. Also, I thought we were damn funny! The OP is a f.cking idiot, no matter how you read the post--truth or troll. SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it > on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:33:36 GMT, Cheryl > <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > here. Good grief, how utterly hypocritical. Also, I thought we > were damn funny! I too thought so. I mean who would take that seriously? Especially the regular posters. They've really surprised me! lol > The OP is a f.cking idiot, no matter how you read the > post--truth or troll. Agreed, either one works for me, but I still don't believe it was sincere. And like I said before, I usually refrain from even replying. Or more accurately, I refrain NOW from replying to troll posts, or getting in the middle of the muck in this group. I like it better this way. It got old and causes disrupt within the group, but some people *looking at Matthew* seem to like to have people to vilify. SignatureCheryl on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:15:11 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: > Agreed, either one works for me, but I still don't believe it was > sincere. And like I said before, I usually refrain from even [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but some people *looking at Matthew* seem to like to have people to > vilify. What's ironic is that I'm ALWAYS restrained when these morons show up. This one time I posted something completely ridiculous that I KNEW no one in their right mind would take seriously, something funny. I am not the least bit sorry, either. (Your reply slayed me, BTW! haha!!) I also don't believe the original post was sincere, not for a second. Matthew sure is making a statement, but I don't think it is the one he intends! SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it > on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:15:11 GMT, Cheryl > <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > seriously, something funny. I am not the least bit sorry, > either. (Your reply slayed me, BTW! haha!!) I know you don't, that's what caught me off guard. LOl But I was thinking almost the same thing, some smart a.s answer to the stupid question just because it HAD to be a troll. Leaving in 2 days, no arrangements and feeling like they had to put the cat out on the streets of NYC. I often watch the posters who attack posts like this and both shake my head at the disbelief of even asking the question in the first place, then the onslaught of attacks. Then to get attacked by Matthew (who is always in the middle of those threads) when I do it? Too funny. > I also don't believe the original post was sincere, not for a > second. Matthew sure is making a statement, but I don't think > it is the one he intends! SignatureCheryl >I often watch the posters who attack posts like > this and both shake my head at the disbelief of even asking the > question in the first place, then the onslaught of attacks. I think I have reached this exalted place ... OMMMM lol >>I often watch the posters who attack posts like >> this and both shake my head at the disbelief of even asking the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > lol I'm going back there. These people are hopeless. SignatureCheryl >>>I often watch the posters who attack posts like >>> this and both shake my head at the disbelief of even asking the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I'm going back there. These people are hopeless. And if you keep pointing it out it just makes them want to hunt you down and kill you. And that can be a problem. on Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:07:32 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote: > And if you keep pointing it out it just makes them want to hunt you > down and kill you. And that can be a problem. *snort* I say, BRING IT. It's a damn shame when people forget how to laugh. SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it > on Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:07:32 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I say, BRING IT. It's a damn shame when people forget how to laugh. Indeed. As for the original post--anyone who even threatens to put a cat on the street is an a.shole. A-S-S-H-O-L-E. > As for the original post--anyone who even threatens to put a cat on > the street is an a.shole. A-S-S-H-O-L-E. Bears repeating. Total f.cking a.shole. SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it >on Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:07:32 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I say, BRING IT. It's a damn shame when people forget how to laugh. There is nothing to "Bring On". Like Matthew, I am genuinely pleased that the OP's dedication paid off It wasn't funny. If it was, we would all have laughed. If you honestly thought it was a troll, you should have taken your own advice & ignored it. After Phil posted, I thought it would have made it crystal clear that the OP was genuine. I'm sorry that you feel that we need to "Bring Anything "On"... As far as I am concerned I hope that this is the end of the matter. Sheelagh >"o"< SignatureSheelagh >"o"< > on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:15:11 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Matthew sure is making a statement, but I don't think it is the one he > intends! Regardless, it amounts to stupid people in defense of stupid people. Matthew is not stupid, but has a big tender heart that sometimes softens his head. >> [quoted text muted] > > Lynne, I think a warm cat will probably need more than an overnight > stay in the freezer. I'd go for at least 24 hours. I wonder how big > he is? I expected better from you. >>> [quoted text muted] >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I expected better from you. I remember when you used to have a sense of humor. >> [quoted text muted] > > I remember when you used to have a sense of humor. glad to be remembered -- that must have been way back when the cat groups were fun to read. >>> [quoted text muted] >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I expected better from you. Oh please. It was a stupid question and meritted a stupid answer. Lynne just beat me to the first reply. Lighten up people. As if this person, whether it was a sincere question or not, would freeze dry a cat for travel. They have no intention of bringing their 1 remaining cat with them any way. SignatureCheryl >> [quoted text muted] > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thaw him out slowly when you get there so he isn't scared when he comes > back to life. Problem solved! You are pathetic! > >> [quoted text muted] > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > You are pathetic! I sat here for an hour before posting because I knew that the consequences of what I had to say would probably make me very unpopular. In the end, I decided to post, mostly because it needs pointing out. When I made mistakes, there were no end of people ready to point out the error of my ways, & they were right to. I had far too much to say & hurt people with my sharp tongue. Reprimanding me made me look @ myself, & examine what I was saying & why as well. It taught me what humility meant & to think how others feel before shooting my mouth off- Or at least asserting whether I am being presented with the "Real facts". I hope you understand that my comment is only to remind us all that people do make mistakes, & we are here to advise, rather than reprimand before helping the cat(s) in question. There is time for that later, after the cat has been taken care of. If this makes me unpopular, then so be it. Sheelagh >"o"< Do NOT let him go on his own. That is VERY CRUEL. It is better to surrender him to a shelter. Gail >I am leaving this country soon and i cant take my cat with me. i've > asked friends and called several animal shelters by long island and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Your help is greatly appreciated. Pls help me to find him a new home. > a million thanks. > Do NOT let him go on his own. That is VERY CRUEL. It is better > to surrender him to a shelter. It's a very sick torll, Gail. Not very original either. SignatureCheryl >> Do NOT let him go on his own. That is VERY CRUEL. It is better >> to surrender him to a shelter. > > It's a very sick torll, Gail. Not very original either. What makes you say this I goggled the email and the only post came back to last year when she had problems with fleas and the kitten had watery droppings and was throwing up. She stated in the emails that she was going to a vet http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=eoperi@gmail.com&qt_s=Search+Groups >> It's a very sick torll, Gail. Not very original either. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=eoperi@gmail.com&qt_s=Se > arch+Groups I didn't google them. If it is a legit request for help, they have asked way too late. That's why I said it was a troll, and again, an unoriginal one. Personally, I don't buy it. SignatureCheryl >>> It's a very sick torll, Gail. Not very original either. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > asked way too late. That's why I said it was a troll, and again, an > unoriginal one. Personally, I don't buy it. Um, yeah! You're going overseas in two days, can't take your beloved cat, so you turn to ..... USENET. Sure you do. If it isn't a troll, I have nothing to say to this person. Stupid people frustrate me. >>>> It's a very sick torll, Gail. Not very original either. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > If it isn't a troll, I have nothing to say to this person. Stupid people > frustrate me. I think we have gotten to use to the trolls that come here and we are getting cynical with our old age. I am not defending this person but I think the benefit of the doubt is always the best bet to go. > If it isn't a troll, I have nothing to say to this person. > Stupid people frustrate me. Same here. I know enough people in person who do stupid things with their pets that frustrate me. I finally had to cut loose a friend who breeds her dogs, and its hard to lose a friend but I have values that mean something to me. Took a while but it was inevitable. SignatureCheryl >> If it isn't a troll, I have nothing to say to this person. >> Stupid people frustrate me. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > breeds her dogs, and its hard to lose a friend but I have values that > mean something to me. Took a while but it was inevitable. And you know what, it isn't really stupidity. It's total selfishness. It's "head up the a.s" syndrome. Creatures that are completely dependent on us take first priority with decent people, whether human or otherwise. To even consider putting an animal on the street, pffft. a.sholes. >>> It's a very sick torll, Gail. Not very original either. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > asked way too late. That's why I said it was a troll, and again, an > unoriginal one. Personally, I don't buy it. They funny thing is the user net is the last place to go for help like this. We always tell people that come here. I don't know if it is true or not. I answer it as it is real no matter what until they act like that last a@@hole did what he did PLEASE CALL PHIL AT MAXSHOUSE IMMEDIATELY THEY ARE IN NEW JERSEY http://www.maxshouse.com/about_us.htm I know they have a phone listing but I can't find it they are in New jersey I am adding a email my self to him Good luck >I am leaving this country soon and i cant take my cat with me. i've > asked friends and called several animal shelters by long island and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Your help is greatly appreciated. Pls help me to find him a new home. > a million thanks. on Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:26:35 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > PLEASE CALL PHIL AT MAXSHOUSE IMMEDIATELY THEY ARE IN NEW JERSEY > http://www.maxshouse.com/about_us.htm > > I know they have a phone listing but I can't find it they are in New > jersey Moving in 2 days and going to let the cat go loose? Surely no one can be THAT stupid? Jeez, I hope not, anyway! I don't want to read in the papers about a frozen cat shipped to another country and the idiot owner wondering why he won't come back to life!! Hahahaha. Sorry, just can't take this seriously. It's got to be a troll. SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it The Brooklyn SPCA is featured often on Animal Planet. Worth a shot. Paul >I am leaving this country soon and i cant take my cat with me. i've > asked friends and called several animal shelters by long island and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Your help is greatly appreciated. Pls help me to find him a new home. > a million thanks. paul, thanks for your help. > The Brooklyn SPCA is featured often on Animal Planet. Worth a shot. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > paul, thanks for your help. You live in NY and the Brooklyn SPCA never occurred to you. Huh Glad I get thank for contacting Phil and telling you about his rescue center > paul, thanks for your help. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - > Huh Glad I get thank for contacting Phil and telling you about his rescue > center [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Matthew, there are times that you simply can't help some people, however hard you try. This is one of them. If she really wanted the help that she professes to want, then she would have been there thanking you for the way you put yourself out.(because you did!) In fact, I don't think if you picked the cat up personally & took it to the shelter for her, that it would have been the right place, or even helpful to her. Shrug it off & try not to worry about it ( the cat, I mean- not her).... If she was bright enough to ask the group for help, then she was perfectly capable of looking up human societies in the NY area like I did for her, in the UK!! Take care, Sheelagh >*o*< > Huh Glad I get thank for contacting Phil and telling you about his rescue > center [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Perhaps I am being a bit harsh. I am not sure. That is why I did not dismiss her out of hand. Leaving this problem until a day or 2 before you depart is a little remiss of her, however, there might be extenuating circumstances for instance... but that doesn't excuse not having the manners to thank someone who really did go against the grain to help out- which you did! I hope that she has somewhere sorted out too. Having said that, I hardly think she is likely to come back and tell us though. Some remarks were a little caustic. I certainly hope that she did manage to place him. Frankly, it is very unusual over here not to be able to place a cat in a place of safety, so it is a little difficult for me to understand the concept of all of your shelters being full. It must be a dreadful situation?! I am certain that it will happen one day, we are just lucky we haven't got there yet. You tried your very best, that is clear..... Sheelagh >*o*< >Huh Glad I get thank for contacting Phil and telling you about his rescue >center [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>> >>> - Show quoted text - BTW Matthew, googling msflying piggy, she had 2 kittens last October 06. Do we ask about the other kitty? M. here's pictures of my cats & garden & the Chinese Lantern Festival this summer in Toronto http://community.webshots.com/user/mariib?action=publicAlbums >>Huh Glad I get thank for contacting Phil and telling you about his rescue >>center [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > summer in Toronto > http://community.webshots.com/user/mariib?action=publicAlbums I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. It is always the best bet for the one time that we jump the gun it will be the real thing. >>>Huh Glad I get thank for contacting Phil and telling you about his rescue >>>center [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. It is always the best bet for the >one time that we jump the gun it will be the real thing. That's just fine, but I'm not questioning that she's about to leave her cat behind - when she posted last October, she had 2 kittens & I was asking what happened to the other one? M. >>>>Huh Glad I get thank for contacting Phil and telling you about his >>>>rescue [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > happened to the other one? > M. Very good questions if she need helped and the others did not scare her off. Maybe we can find out > >>>>Huh Glad I get thank for contacting Phil and telling you about his > >>>>rescue [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Sorry! I forgot to add, check your email box Sheelagh >*o*< > Very good questions if she need helped and the others did not > scare her off. Maybe we can find out Matthew they never gave you updates in the past, what makes you think they would now? "Scare her off". Pulease. SignatureCheryl > >Huh Glad I get thank for contacting Phil and telling you about his rescue > >center [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > Message posted via CatKB.comhttp://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cat-health/200709/1 Lovely photos :o) Sheelagh >*o*< Dear Miss Flying Piggy, Leaving the country? DON'T COME BACK. Barb > Leaving the country? DON'T COME BACK. And NEVER get another pet! SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it > > Leaving the country? DON'T COME BACK. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > photos of my pets:http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it Actually, the cat wasn't her's. It belonged to a friend that she was trying to help. She still has the 2 cats that Matthew spoke about, & mentioned are fine & I received photos of them a couple of days ago. She took Matthews advice & took her friend & the cat in question to him, but he couldn't take it either because he has no room at all. In fact, he has asked that people think twice before giving out his details, before contacting him first. Much as he would love to help everyone, he can't. He is only human & only has a certain amount of resources available. In future, he would appreciate it if people would be kind enough to contacting him first, to see if he can help. ( I know this to be true, because I checked) I know that we get a lot of Trolls that stop by here simply to cause havoc, & also that it can be hard to sort out the real people that need help, from the idiots who call by to cause trouble- But we should have the good grace to give them a chance before dismissing them out of hand. You might even say that is a bit rich coming from someone who has had plenty to say in the past, because I have! The difference is, that I have learned my lesson, & I have learnt to give everyone the benefit of doubt, before condemning them. I lost a good friend by doing exactly this, & I can assure you that it wasn't worth it. Most people who come here, are genuine, & do not deserve the stick that she got. Of course she won't come back! Would you? Sheelagh >"o"< > I am leaving this country soon and i cant take my cat with me. i've > asked friends and called several animal shelters by long island and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Your help is greatly appreciated. Pls help me to find him a new home. > a million thanks. Here are a few that I found on the Internet. I live in the UK, so some of them might not be valid, but they are definately worth a call. It is a pity that you didn't ask a little sooner, because people might have been able to help. @ this late hour, you might find that these shelters are already full. I hope that you do find somewhere though. http://www.ligreyhound.org/shelters.htm http://www.licp.org/ http://queens.about.com/od/petsanimals/index_a.htm http://www.queenstribune.com/guides/2007_GuideToQueens/service/animal.htm This one has a list of shelters in the area that you asked for http://cats.about.com/library/weekly/aa061401a.htm This also has a few shelters on this page http://queens.about.com/od/petsanimals/index_r.htm Sheelagh >*o*< Hi Just read this thread and was shocked by the opening part about 'freezing' your cat. Thought it was OTT but I read it to my husband and the thought of putting our 4 babies in the freezer is awful. All our cats are great by the way!!! Shame that there are some people out there that can't take cats to there next destination - I can only agree with what Sheelagh has said. Has it all been sorted now? Nice of you Sheelagh to give the info you have. take care Clare >> I am leaving this country soon and i cant take my cat with me. i've >> asked friends and called several animal shelters by long island and [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Sheelagh >*o*< I'm new here, and really have no right to comment on what has transpired re: this thread, but, I feel that I must reply. I formerly did animal rescue---though not for the last twelve years. I discovered during the period of time that I rescued, that often, people would hang on to their pets until the last minute, because they desperately hoped that their situations would change. *Maybe the landlord will let me keep my pet after all. Maybe I won't have to move. etc.* It would have been grossly unfair for me to question their motives for doing so and to refuse to help, not only to them, but to the animal in question as well. Thank you Matthew, Sheelagh and Paul, for your helpful suggestions, and the kindness that you offered to this woman. Matthew, I posted my thanks to you privately, but just wanted to give you a public thank you as well. You have a wonderful heart. Grace > I'm new here, and really have no right to comment on what has > transpired re: this thread, but, I feel that I must reply. I formerly [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Grace You are welcome Grace If you tried to send something to my email that is a debunked email. I hide it due to the a@@hole trolls here. You have every right to comment. I am ashamed and annoyed with the other posters right now. I know you are right about the animal rescue. I have experienced this many of times. No matter what anyone wants to think giving up your animal is giving up your child. No one wants to do this. It is the hardest thing to do or even comprehend. If anyone thinks it is easy they need to be flogged. It is always the best bet to assume they are genuine and not every one is like the punk Pac man player. on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:39:42 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > I have experienced this many > of times. No matter what anyone wants to think giving up your animal > is giving up your child. No one wants to do this. It is the hardest > thing to do or even comprehend. If anyone thinks it is easy they need > to be flogged. Oh, please. If the OP really gave a crap about the cat, arrangements would have been made long before the last minute. If this isn't complete fiction, I'm sure the a.shole had the passport made and the bags packed, shipping arrangments and airline tickets in hand, yet waited to the last minute before trying to rehome the cat. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. SignatureLynne photos of my pets: http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it > I'm new here, and really have no right to comment on what has > transpired re: this thread, but, I feel that I must reply. I formerly [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Grace IMHO Matthew is the glue that holds this group together. MLB >> I'm new here, and really have no right to comment on what has >> transpired re: this thread, but, I feel that I must reply. I formerly [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > IMHO Matthew is the glue that holds this group together. > MLB That is scary but there are others including you > > I'm new here, and really have no right to comment on what has > > transpired re: this thread, but, I feel that I must reply. I formerly [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - IMHO I agree > > I'm new here, and really have no right to comment on what has > > transpired re: this thread, but, I feel that I must reply. I formerly [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I thought that you might want to know about the conclusion of this little story. In fact, the cat belonged to a neighbor of the OP. On our guidance, she took the cat over to see Phil, but he wasn't able to help in this instance, he was already full to the rafters already with cats. Re: THANK YOU VERY MUCH JESSY From: j t (eoperi@gmail.com) Sent:15 September 2007 22:26:57 To: sheelagh madden (sheelagh_madden@hotmail.co.uk) hi Sheelagh, Phil was very helpful, However when we got there, they were out of space and had to turn us away. I feel like crying. I called up some more friends and animal shelters, no luck. We are going to try some more shelters tomorrow and hopefully they will have room for him. thank you for sharing your photos. Your cats are lovely. I'd write more, but I want to check out some more places. will keep you posted. wish us luck. I did wish her luck, & with a heavy heart, I never thought I would hear from her again. I can't tell you how delighted I was last night to open my mail box & find I had a further update as requested. This is it: From: j t (eoperi@gmail.com) Sent:18 September 2007 23:14:16 To: sheelagh madden (sheelagh_madden@hotmail.co.uk) Hi Sheelagh, good new!! We found someone who could take her cat!!! I was thrilled when that person called us. we called a lot of people and finally one came through =) he is finally settling down with a new owner. thanks for everything!!! I am so pleased that there was a possitive outcome in the end. Sheelagh >"o"< Hi Sheelagh, I too had contacted Jess to see if she had had any luck. At that point, she hadn't, but was determined not to give up. I told Matthew just the other evening, that if she had been able to get that cat to PA, I would have taken it myself and placed it in a local rescue. (A very good rescue, I might add.) Sheelagh, during my time working animal rescue, I discovered that often people attempt to hang onto their pets until the last minute, hoping that their situations will change. Whenever I first became ill, (I have a potentially fatal CNS disease--Devic's NMO) I faced the possibility of having to rehome my little Jack Russel X. I was beside myself, convinced that no one else could give her a home such as I had. She was already 12 years old, and her personality was such that she was a *one woman dog*. I was truly beside myself. Luckily, I was able to hang onto her and still care for her, and she is with me today---an absolutely incedible little ball of love, and still her Mum's one and only. Now, I have a plan in place in the event that something happens to me, and I know that she will be cared for and loved until the end of her days. Often, people just don't think far enough ahead whenever it comes to rehoming. Because they love their pet, they think that it will be an easy task to find someone that will love them just as much as they do. Sadly, that isn't always the case. Years ago whenever I was still in and out of our local shelter, I would often hear of elderly people, who were not in a position to care for their pet anymore, and who had brought them to the shelter, confident that someone would adopt them. Sometimes those initial seperations were so heartbreaking. And sadly, just as often, the final outcome was not a happy one. I think that I spent the majority of those years, crying. My years in rescue were some of the most fulfilling years of my whole life, but strangely, also the saddest. Again, thank you Matthew and Sheelagh for your kindness towards Jess. Oh, and Matthew, those cats of yours are beautiful, and obviously quite spoiled. I loved the photos. Now all you need, is it to find yourself a beautiful long haired Calico like my Lyric to complete the family. :-) Grace > Hi Sheelagh, > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Grace <BIG SMILE> Every one of the cats that I have . Have been real rescue not from shelters but the real world. Ka' shay my newest master. When I was at my vets. She cried out loudly I said someone is not happy and my vet showed my the little pip squeak. The humane society was there to pick her up but at that time there was a no hold on animals due to over crowding the were putting to sleep any surrender animals due to lack of space. The guys said her chance is less than 1% to get adopted I said not on my watch those chances just went to 100% she is coming home with me. My vet said he was holding out hoping someone would come along and as soon as I walked in the door he knew she had a new slave. Happens every time I come around. Personally I think I got set up but it was worth it. I always say the gods have a plan and cats are in on it. If rumble had not gotten sick with diabetes and had to go thru the time of being tested and going back and forth. We would have never gotten Ka'Shay; which means don't ask in an ancient language. I was going to change the visit that day but something told me not to now I know what it was. "Sheelagh >o<" <sheelagh_madden@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > > > - Show quoted text - > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > help in this instance, he was already full to the rafters already with > cats. Actually, we were over the rafters a long time ago... I have cats running around up on the joists!. > Phil was very helpful, However when we got there, they were out of > space and had to turn us away. I felt really bad-- they came all the way from Queens. I know they really cared. They drove a long way and even offered to make a substantial donation towards his care. When I told her we would take him, I had an opening with someone who only fosters older cats. But by the time they got here, the foster had already taken in another cat. We can't reserve spots because so many people don't show up-- or even call. So we have to operate on a first come-first serve basis. > good new!! We found someone who could take her cat!!! I was thrilled > when that person called us. we called a lot of people and finally one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I am so pleased that there was a possitive outcome in the end. I'm so happy he has a forever home! Phil > "Sheelagh >o<" <sheelagh_madden@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > >> > - Show quoted text - [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Phil thanks for trying Phil I will do as you ask me to in the email. I know how it is with the shelters. They lady who I deal with here now as a capacity of 350 she has over a 1000 and will not put any to sleep no matter what. At least there was a happy ending despite the drama |
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