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Bonnie's annual on Friday

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Cheryl - 06 Sep 2007 01:57 GMT
Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in
for her yearly. This is the only opportunity for her claws to be
trimmed,  to be weighed, to be checked over thoroughly, etc. Plus
she gets her behind shaved because she's chubby. It's also rabies
shot time this year (3-year).

She's been here 4 years now since being caught as a very wild
feral, so I've caught her in various ways over the years. One time
ended up with her with broken claws trying to escape me by jumping
into a bathroom window sill, and her holding on for dear life while
I tried to extract her from the wood. A couple of times I was
successful by getting her to come to me in the bathroom, where she
knows she'll get pet, but she still hasn't forgotten from last
year, and is very wary when she comes to me there. I don't think
that will work this year. This year I'm planning for getting her in
my bedroom, and she'll hide under the bed, and I'll have to pull
off the mattress and box spring to get to her. Oh, there'll be some
chasing involved.

One year I was successful offering her treats on the floor near my
feet, and just reach down and grab her while she's snacking, but
that was also a one-time only deal because she doesn't trust food
close to me any more.

If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them.

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Cheryl - 06 Sep 2007 02:06 GMT
> Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in
> for her yearly.

Oh, and one other thing: When I called to make her appointment, she
was in the room and I swear this cat knows when her time is coming
because she gets super wary when it's "the day".  So when I made her
appointment, the receptionist asked which cat, and I told her I
couldn't say her name.  LOL I had to spell it. I'm serious. This is
one stressful time for us.

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Gail - 06 Sep 2007 02:14 GMT
I also had a feral cat like this. I would put the carrier (opened) in the
house so she could see it weeks in advance. When the day came (and I agree
with you that they sense it), I would put her in the carrrier whenever I
could catch her. She remained in there hours before her appointment. I was
able to handle my cat, at times, and this may be different from yours. I
would try to get her to associate a particular place (ie. the bathroom) with
food in advance. When she comes into the bathroom, give her a treat. You
must start this in advance, though, and not the day of the appointment.
Gail
> Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in
> for her yearly. This is the only opportunity for her claws to be
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> If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them.
Cheryl - 06 Sep 2007 02:31 GMT
> I also had a feral cat like this. I would put the carrier
> (opened) in the house so she could see it weeks in advance. When
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> a treat. You must start this in advance, though, and not the day
> of the appointment. Gail

Thanks Gail. I will try this for next year. For Friday, it's just
too soon to get her used to food in the bathroom or the carrier.
She'll know for sure something's up.  But this will be helpful for
the future.  I have actually left a carrier open in the living room
so all of them will get used to it (when I buy a new one) I will
try leaving one out full time and putting snacks in it. Will have
to take off the door, though - I get worried someone will put an
eye out on the hasp that locks the door shut.

Thanks!

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cindys - 06 Sep 2007 02:45 GMT
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>This year I'm planning for getting her in
> my bedroom, and she'll hide under the bed, and I'll have to pull
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>
> If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them.
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The only way I am able to catch Amanda is to:
1.  Set up the carrier outside the room, days in advance, standing on end,
with its door open, so she won't get suspicious.
2.  Catch her unaware (like when she is eating) and throw a big towel over
her. Grab her. And pop her in the carrier, still covered in the towel. By
the time she figures out what happened, the carrier door is closed. I do
this at least an hour in advance of the appointment. Some friends of ours
with the same problem throw a pillow case over their cat.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Cheryl - 06 Sep 2007 03:03 GMT
> The only way I am able to catch Amanda is to:
> 1.  Set up the carrier outside the room, days in advance,
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> hour in advance of the appointment. Some friends of ours with
> the same problem throw a pillow case over their cat.

Thanks Cindy.  I tried throwing a blanket over her one time, and
that was the time she wasn't successfully trapped by it, and ended
up in the bathroom window sill with broken claws.  It was very
stressful for her. And me.  I was drenched in sweat that year
catching her. And I had gotten her downstairs so that she couldn't
run upstairs so that we didn't have a chase on the stairs up and
down. Done that too.  And round and round the kitchen that has two
entrances.  She didn't survive a feral existance accidentally.  LOL

At this point she is very hesitant at any sight of one of the
carriers away from their normal spot, so I think the key from this
point forward is going to be to get her used to seeing them in new
places. This will take a while.  For Friday though, I don't know
how this will help.  She is already over a month overdue because
I've so dreaded having to catch her.  God willing she doesn't get
sick to the point of needing meds one. Or, if she does, that she
has calmed down. But after 4 years of her like this, I can't
imagine she will ever change and become a domestic cat.

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Sheelagh >o< - 06 Sep 2007 03:55 GMT
> > The only way I am able to catch Amanda is to:
> > 1.  Set up the carrier outside the room, days in advance,
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> --
> Cheryl

Same here, Cats are so clever. I can only ever get away with one
trick, once only. By the time the annual trip comes round,
she*knows*....

Don't ask me how because I have no idea. It's like she can sense -
like hearing, seeing or even smelling. I have tried with a towel, a
blanket & even just allowing her to sit on my lap & one of the kids
stand by ready to pick her off me & straight into the carrier. but,
the consequence wasn't worth it. She wouldn't sit on my lap for 3
months after that & I missed cuddeling her too much!!
(Lilly Birman)

I guess that is why they call it the 6th sense?
Good Luck this year
Sheelagh >"o"<
Candace - 06 Sep 2007 05:26 GMT
> At this point she is very hesitant at any sight of one of the
> carriers away from their normal spot, so I think the key from this
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> --
> Cheryl

Believe me, I understand.  Abbey is very difficult although she isn't
feral but I've done feral, too.  Best of luck to you.  Sometimes I
have just tried to kind of center myself and ask God to let it go
smoothly for all concerned.  I did this when I was trying to get W.B.
into the carrier to be neutered last month.  I could pick him up,
etc., but I had no idea how he would react ot being stuffed into a
carrier. It was easy as could be, not a struggle from him.  So I don't
know if it was the praying or if he's just mellow.

Good luck,
Candace
Cheryl - 07 Sep 2007 03:06 GMT
> Believe me, I understand.  Abbey is very difficult although she
> isn't feral but I've done feral, too.  Best of luck to you.
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> struggle from him.  So I don't know if it was the praying or if
> he's just mellow.

I know what you mean!!  Earlier this year I helped my sister move,
and I had to get one of her cats into a carrier and he went
ballistic. My nephew was warning me, but heck, I've been around
cats for a long time and never had a problem getting one that I
could pick up into a carrier, so I ignored him. This cat was
FREAKED OUT. He hissed at me, bit me, swiped at me and made himself
too big to get through the carrier opening. He is just about as big
as Rhett, so it wasn't hard for him to do. LOL  By the time I gave
up and called my sister in, I was bloody and sweaty. He went
through my jeans with his claws and left even my legs bloody, not
to mention my bare arms and neck.

> Good luck,
> Candace

Thanks Candace. I'm planning on just getting her into my bedroom
and will have to take the bed apart to get her. Will shut the door
to the downstairs before, and when she's in my room I'll just shut
that door.

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CatNipped - 07 Sep 2007 21:28 GMT
Karen over in rpca was asking if anyone had a cat with chylothorax.  I
mentioned Abbey, but I don't know what she wanted to know specifically.
Would you mind popping over there?

Hugs,

CatNipped
MaryL - 07 Sep 2007 04:04 GMT
> Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in
> for her yearly. This is the only opportunity for her claws to be
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>
> If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them.

Have you tried putting some treats *in* the carrier? -- possibly even use a
Hav-a-Hart trap for the purpose because that way you would not have to
remain nearby (and thus would not "forewarn" her to avoid it).

MaryL
Cheryl - 07 Sep 2007 21:19 GMT
> Have you tried putting some treats *in* the carrier? -- possibly
> even use a Hav-a-Hart trap for the purpose because that way you
> would not have to remain nearby (and thus would not "forewarn"
> her to avoid it).

I rarely think of treats as a way to get her to do something,
because she is very overweight.  I'm not sure the trap would work,
but I could try it. She tends to not go inside of anything that
doesn't have another way out. She won't even go in closets, and her
favorite spots are under beds (3 ways out) between the legs of cat
trees (easy to out manuever cats, people) and often runs in the
kitchen when being chased because it's L shaped and has two
openings.  Oh, and behind the sectional downstairs (3 ways out).
She's hesitant to come in the bathroom if I'm in there(one way out)
and freaks out if she is caught in a room and I'm in the doorway
because she can't get out any other way. She's very smart. Like I
said, it wasn't an accident that she survived as a feral. Now I'm
thinking for much longer than originally thought. She's getting
some gray hairs now. At what age can solid black cats without any
white on them get white/gray hairs? Teeth are still good, though.

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jmc - 07 Sep 2007 12:32 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (9/6/2007 10:27 AM):
> Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in
> for her yearly.
>
> If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them.

I'm lucky.  Meep's usually still asleep when I get home from work, so I
just drag her from under the sheets and pop her into the box before
she's awake enough to protest :)

I'd leave the cage out full-time, and feed her favorite treats in it.
Get her used to it as just another piece of furniture, a safe place to
hang out.  Once she's comfortable going in it on her own, pop her in it
occasionally, but don't close the door.  Don't force her, and always
make sure there's treats in there before you try.

If you're lucky enough that she starts hanging out there, sometimes
close but don't latch the door, so she can get out.  Then, when she's
ready, latch the door for just a little while, then open it back up.

After that, you can try putting her in it and latching the door behind
her.  Try feeding her a treat, praise her bunches, then let her out.

For a cat that's as wary as Bonnie seems to be, this might take a while.

For today, there's two ways I found works best to get a reluctant cat in
a cage.

1.  Cage on end, dump the cat in headfirst.  Works best for me.
2.  Cage on the end of a table or something, so there's nothing for her
to stand on but open air.  Headfirst, she has nowhere else to go but in.

You'll probably have to wrap her in something, for your own safety, and
to help reduce the octopus-effect when trying to stuff her in.  They
seem to grow extra legs when you're trying to get them in a carrier,
don't they?

jmc
Cheryl - 07 Sep 2007 21:32 GMT
> For today, there's two ways I found works best to get a
> reluctant cat in a cage.
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> stuff her in.  They seem to grow extra legs when you're trying
> to get them in a carrier, don't they?

I wrote in another post about treats, but I'm still going to start
setting one out for her to get more used to it.

The problem with Bonnie is not getting her in the carrier, it's
actually catching her.  I can't pick her up, and never have been
able to. Once I do catch her, she'll go very easily into the
carrier, and is very quiet; so unlike every other cat I've ever
known.

Thanks for the ideas!

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