Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / September 2007
Bonnie's annual on Friday
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Cheryl - 06 Sep 2007 01:57 GMT Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in for her yearly. This is the only opportunity for her claws to be trimmed, to be weighed, to be checked over thoroughly, etc. Plus she gets her behind shaved because she's chubby. It's also rabies shot time this year (3-year).
She's been here 4 years now since being caught as a very wild feral, so I've caught her in various ways over the years. One time ended up with her with broken claws trying to escape me by jumping into a bathroom window sill, and her holding on for dear life while I tried to extract her from the wood. A couple of times I was successful by getting her to come to me in the bathroom, where she knows she'll get pet, but she still hasn't forgotten from last year, and is very wary when she comes to me there. I don't think that will work this year. This year I'm planning for getting her in my bedroom, and she'll hide under the bed, and I'll have to pull off the mattress and box spring to get to her. Oh, there'll be some chasing involved.
One year I was successful offering her treats on the floor near my feet, and just reach down and grab her while she's snacking, but that was also a one-time only deal because she doesn't trust food close to me any more.
If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them.
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Cheryl - 06 Sep 2007 02:06 GMT > Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in > for her yearly. Oh, and one other thing: When I called to make her appointment, she was in the room and I swear this cat knows when her time is coming because she gets super wary when it's "the day". So when I made her appointment, the receptionist asked which cat, and I told her I couldn't say her name. LOL I had to spell it. I'm serious. This is one stressful time for us.
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Gail - 06 Sep 2007 02:14 GMT I also had a feral cat like this. I would put the carrier (opened) in the house so she could see it weeks in advance. When the day came (and I agree with you that they sense it), I would put her in the carrrier whenever I could catch her. She remained in there hours before her appointment. I was able to handle my cat, at times, and this may be different from yours. I would try to get her to associate a particular place (ie. the bathroom) with food in advance. When she comes into the bathroom, give her a treat. You must start this in advance, though, and not the day of the appointment. Gail
> Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in > for her yearly. This is the only opportunity for her claws to be [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them. Cheryl - 06 Sep 2007 02:31 GMT > I also had a feral cat like this. I would put the carrier > (opened) in the house so she could see it weeks in advance. When [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > a treat. You must start this in advance, though, and not the day > of the appointment. Gail Thanks Gail. I will try this for next year. For Friday, it's just too soon to get her used to food in the bathroom or the carrier. She'll know for sure something's up. But this will be helpful for the future. I have actually left a carrier open in the living room so all of them will get used to it (when I buy a new one) I will try leaving one out full time and putting snacks in it. Will have to take off the door, though - I get worried someone will put an eye out on the hasp that locks the door shut.
Thanks!
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cindys - 06 Sep 2007 02:45 GMT snip
>This year I'm planning for getting her in > my bedroom, and she'll hide under the bed, and I'll have to pull [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them. -------- The only way I am able to catch Amanda is to: 1. Set up the carrier outside the room, days in advance, standing on end, with its door open, so she won't get suspicious. 2. Catch her unaware (like when she is eating) and throw a big towel over her. Grab her. And pop her in the carrier, still covered in the towel. By the time she figures out what happened, the carrier door is closed. I do this at least an hour in advance of the appointment. Some friends of ours with the same problem throw a pillow case over their cat. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
Cheryl - 06 Sep 2007 03:03 GMT > The only way I am able to catch Amanda is to: > 1. Set up the carrier outside the room, days in advance, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > hour in advance of the appointment. Some friends of ours with > the same problem throw a pillow case over their cat. Thanks Cindy. I tried throwing a blanket over her one time, and that was the time she wasn't successfully trapped by it, and ended up in the bathroom window sill with broken claws. It was very stressful for her. And me. I was drenched in sweat that year catching her. And I had gotten her downstairs so that she couldn't run upstairs so that we didn't have a chase on the stairs up and down. Done that too. And round and round the kitchen that has two entrances. She didn't survive a feral existance accidentally. LOL
At this point she is very hesitant at any sight of one of the carriers away from their normal spot, so I think the key from this point forward is going to be to get her used to seeing them in new places. This will take a while. For Friday though, I don't know how this will help. She is already over a month overdue because I've so dreaded having to catch her. God willing she doesn't get sick to the point of needing meds one. Or, if she does, that she has calmed down. But after 4 years of her like this, I can't imagine she will ever change and become a domestic cat.
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Sheelagh >o< - 06 Sep 2007 03:55 GMT > > The only way I am able to catch Amanda is to: > > 1. Set up the carrier outside the room, days in advance, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > -- > Cheryl Same here, Cats are so clever. I can only ever get away with one trick, once only. By the time the annual trip comes round, she*knows*....
Don't ask me how because I have no idea. It's like she can sense - like hearing, seeing or even smelling. I have tried with a towel, a blanket & even just allowing her to sit on my lap & one of the kids stand by ready to pick her off me & straight into the carrier. but, the consequence wasn't worth it. She wouldn't sit on my lap for 3 months after that & I missed cuddeling her too much!! (Lilly Birman)
I guess that is why they call it the 6th sense? Good Luck this year Sheelagh >"o"<
Candace - 06 Sep 2007 05:26 GMT > At this point she is very hesitant at any sight of one of the > carriers away from their normal spot, so I think the key from this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > Cheryl Believe me, I understand. Abbey is very difficult although she isn't feral but I've done feral, too. Best of luck to you. Sometimes I have just tried to kind of center myself and ask God to let it go smoothly for all concerned. I did this when I was trying to get W.B. into the carrier to be neutered last month. I could pick him up, etc., but I had no idea how he would react ot being stuffed into a carrier. It was easy as could be, not a struggle from him. So I don't know if it was the praying or if he's just mellow.
Good luck, Candace
Cheryl - 07 Sep 2007 03:06 GMT > Believe me, I understand. Abbey is very difficult although she > isn't feral but I've done feral, too. Best of luck to you. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > struggle from him. So I don't know if it was the praying or if > he's just mellow. I know what you mean!! Earlier this year I helped my sister move, and I had to get one of her cats into a carrier and he went ballistic. My nephew was warning me, but heck, I've been around cats for a long time and never had a problem getting one that I could pick up into a carrier, so I ignored him. This cat was FREAKED OUT. He hissed at me, bit me, swiped at me and made himself too big to get through the carrier opening. He is just about as big as Rhett, so it wasn't hard for him to do. LOL By the time I gave up and called my sister in, I was bloody and sweaty. He went through my jeans with his claws and left even my legs bloody, not to mention my bare arms and neck.
> Good luck, > Candace Thanks Candace. I'm planning on just getting her into my bedroom and will have to take the bed apart to get her. Will shut the door to the downstairs before, and when she's in my room I'll just shut that door.
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CatNipped - 07 Sep 2007 21:28 GMT Karen over in rpca was asking if anyone had a cat with chylothorax. I mentioned Abbey, but I don't know what she wanted to know specifically. Would you mind popping over there?
Hugs,
CatNipped
MaryL - 07 Sep 2007 04:04 GMT > Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in > for her yearly. This is the only opportunity for her claws to be [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them. Have you tried putting some treats *in* the carrier? -- possibly even use a Hav-a-Hart trap for the purpose because that way you would not have to remain nearby (and thus would not "forewarn" her to avoid it).
MaryL
Cheryl - 07 Sep 2007 21:19 GMT > Have you tried putting some treats *in* the carrier? -- possibly > even use a Hav-a-Hart trap for the purpose because that way you > would not have to remain nearby (and thus would not "forewarn" > her to avoid it). I rarely think of treats as a way to get her to do something, because she is very overweight. I'm not sure the trap would work, but I could try it. She tends to not go inside of anything that doesn't have another way out. She won't even go in closets, and her favorite spots are under beds (3 ways out) between the legs of cat trees (easy to out manuever cats, people) and often runs in the kitchen when being chased because it's L shaped and has two openings. Oh, and behind the sectional downstairs (3 ways out). She's hesitant to come in the bathroom if I'm in there(one way out) and freaks out if she is caught in a room and I'm in the doorway because she can't get out any other way. She's very smart. Like I said, it wasn't an accident that she survived as a feral. Now I'm thinking for much longer than originally thought. She's getting some gray hairs now. At what age can solid black cats without any white on them get white/gray hairs? Teeth are still good, though.
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jmc - 07 Sep 2007 12:32 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (9/6/2007 10:27 AM):
> Have to find another creative way to catch this cat to get her in > for her yearly. > > If anyone has some creative suggestions, I'd love to hear them. I'm lucky. Meep's usually still asleep when I get home from work, so I just drag her from under the sheets and pop her into the box before she's awake enough to protest :)
I'd leave the cage out full-time, and feed her favorite treats in it. Get her used to it as just another piece of furniture, a safe place to hang out. Once she's comfortable going in it on her own, pop her in it occasionally, but don't close the door. Don't force her, and always make sure there's treats in there before you try.
If you're lucky enough that she starts hanging out there, sometimes close but don't latch the door, so she can get out. Then, when she's ready, latch the door for just a little while, then open it back up.
After that, you can try putting her in it and latching the door behind her. Try feeding her a treat, praise her bunches, then let her out.
For a cat that's as wary as Bonnie seems to be, this might take a while.
For today, there's two ways I found works best to get a reluctant cat in a cage.
1. Cage on end, dump the cat in headfirst. Works best for me. 2. Cage on the end of a table or something, so there's nothing for her to stand on but open air. Headfirst, she has nowhere else to go but in.
You'll probably have to wrap her in something, for your own safety, and to help reduce the octopus-effect when trying to stuff her in. They seem to grow extra legs when you're trying to get them in a carrier, don't they?
jmc
Cheryl - 07 Sep 2007 21:32 GMT > For today, there's two ways I found works best to get a > reluctant cat in a cage. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > stuff her in. They seem to grow extra legs when you're trying > to get them in a carrier, don't they? I wrote in another post about treats, but I'm still going to start setting one out for her to get more used to it.
The problem with Bonnie is not getting her in the carrier, it's actually catching her. I can't pick her up, and never have been able to. Once I do catch her, she'll go very easily into the carrier, and is very quiet; so unlike every other cat I've ever known.
Thanks for the ideas!
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