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RobZip - 02 Sep 2007 22:07 GMT
.. and I miss him already...

Elvis showed up among my colony back at the end of March, probably about 5
or 6 months old at the time. He was emaciated, terribly ill with upper
respiratory infection. He had ulcers in his throat and one in his left eye.
I suspect somebody dumped him here since he seemed well adjusted to people
and loved attention. I dosed him with antibiotics and got him eating again.
Elvis recovered nicely and became a very affectionate part of the clan. He
was one of the three from the whole group that was socialized. The others
have their semi feral fear/avoidance of contact.

Elvis was a greeter. Wherever he was, he'd come running when either my wife
or I drove in. He loved to climb up in my lap, roll over and wrap his paws
around my arm while getting his tummy rubbed or his ears scratched. Lately
he developed a tactic that may have contributed to his demise. As soon as
one of us parked a car, he would stand on his hind legs and strop his claws
on one of the tires.

Today when I got back from errands, none of the colony was around - didn't
see one cat anywhere. I drove in, backed up a few feet to straighten the car
up, then pulled forward. When I got out, my neighbor came over and asked if
I had run over one of the cats. He said he heard a cat shriek. My AC fan was
on high, so I hadn't heard anything. We went looking and found Elvis behind
my tool shed trying to hide.

His right hind leg was split open from hip to knee and from knee to ankle.
The hip was obviously dislocated or broken. He had probably come running
from somewhere out of sight and hopped up to claw the rear tire when I
backed up.

Naturally, calls to the emergency vet were not returned. Whether anyone was
available or not isn't known. I picked Elvis up and got him as comfortable
as possible on my lap. Not only was his hip and leg in bad shape, but he was
showing increasing abdominal pain. His suffering was pretty bad but he still
wanted to cuddle with me, paws wrapped around my arm. I prepared a dose of 2
Klonopin and 2 Librium crushed and mixed with water and gave it to him
orally through a 3 cc syringe. About 30 minutes later, he was unconscious.
He passed on curled on my lap, still holding his paws around my arm, head
lying in the palm of my hand. Little Elvis was no longer hurting. His heart
was still, his breathing stopped. He was buried out back by the tree where
he used to hang out and survey the area.

That little guy brought so much life to the colony. He was playful with the
other cats, and constantly stalking various objects and creatures. His
antics were truly amazing entertainment. His vision was a bit off from the
ulcer scarring in his left eye. He would jiggle his head from side to side,
trying to look at something up close around the obstruction in his vision.
It was truly a joy to see him rise from the miserable condition he arrived
here in and become such a loving, happy member of the colony. It truly hurts
to lose him this way. He knew love... He gave love. His final breath came
embracing me as he had so many times before. Rest in peace my little buddy.
mlbriggs - 02 Sep 2007 23:59 GMT
> .. and I miss him already...
>
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> to lose him this way. He knew love... He gave love. His final breath came
> embracing me as he had so many times before. Rest in peace my little buddy.

""....Rise up slowly, Angel.   It's hard to let you go..."    MLB
Candace - 03 Sep 2007 00:25 GMT
> .. and I miss him already...

How awful.  I'm sorry, it's too sad.

Candace
Gandalf - 03 Sep 2007 00:46 GMT
>Elvis showed up among my colony back at the end of March, probably about 5
>or 6 months old at the time. He was emaciated, terribly ill with upper
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>to lose him this way. He knew love... He gave love. His final breath came
>embracing me as he had so many times before. Rest in peace my little buddy.

What a terrible accident. And a very, very sad story.

I glad you had the means to help him painlessly to the Bridge.

I'm very sorry for your most unfortunate loss.

I will light a candle for Elvis.

BTW: John Lennon had a cat named Elvis, too!
bookie - 03 Sep 2007 01:25 GMT
> .. and I miss him already...
>
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> to lose him this way. He knew love... He gave love. His final breath came
> embracing me as he had so many times before. Rest in peace my little buddy.

you said it all in the line "little Elvis is no longer hurting".

it was an accident and you did the right thing in releasing him from
his pain, and you made his last few months of life in this world ones
filled with love and acceptance, what more could you have done?

poor sausage, he is at peace now, Bookie xx
Matthew - 03 Sep 2007 01:35 GMT
ensoul - 03 Sep 2007 03:03 GMT
> .. and I miss him already...

you gave Elvis love, you saved his life and in return he loved you

I'm deeply sorry, your heart breaks they are not pets but members of
your family

anyone tells it was just a cat, is heartless sh.t

you need to mourn his loss, you have to

always remember what you gave to him and what Elvi gave to you

I faced the death of 2 cats, though not through such a violent way...I
know what you abt emergency vets

even in death you showed your love by ridding him of the pain and you
did facing all that you did, you managed to think of giving him those
meds

I am so sorry

lynn
cybercat - 03 Sep 2007 03:11 GMT
>> .. and I miss him already...
>>
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>
> lynn

Yeah, Rob is a saint. He ran over this cat, right? Had the great sense
to pull into/out of his driveway with the air on full blast--knowing cats
were all over the place. Rob killed this cat, as surely as he put a bullet
in the head of another tom that was harassing his cats through the screens
a few years ago.

"Robzip" likes very much to post here about dead cats that he has killed.
Cheryl - 03 Sep 2007 03:26 GMT
> Yeah, Rob is a saint. He ran over this cat, right? Had the great
> sense to pull into/out of his driveway with the air on full
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> "Robzip" likes very much to post here about dead cats that he
> has killed.

Reading the replies, I thought I was the only one disturbed by this
post. Who waits for an animal ER to call back?  I'm so sorry for
little Elvis. He's in a better place now.

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RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 03:43 GMT
> Reading the replies, I thought I was the only one disturbed by this
> post. Who waits for an animal ER to call back?  I'm so sorry for
> little Elvis. He's in a better place now.

Indeed he is. The emergency vet care on weekends and holidays is handled on
a rotating basis. A call to my regular vet's number will be call forwarded
to a full time answering service who takes the information, contacts the vet
on call, and has them return the call. You would then be directed to meet
the on call vet at their office, not your regular vet - unless that person
just happens to be the one on call. I've no idea how many vets share on call
duty, perhaps 12 or more. When the animal is suffering, and nobody returns a
call after 2 attempts, all I can say is something went wrong on the vet's
end that they couldn't be reached.

I made a second call after 10 minutes, the same info was given to the same
person again. Throughout the rest of the day, I did not receive a call back.
cybercat - 03 Sep 2007 05:41 GMT
>> Reading the replies, I thought I was the only one disturbed by this
>> post. Who waits for an animal ER to call back?  I'm so sorry for
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> person again. Throughout the rest of the day, I did not receive a call
> back.

You like killing cats, "Rob." And telling the stupid, tenderhearted cat
people
alllll about it.
RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 15:57 GMT
>And telling the stupid,

So you recognize and own your particular deficit? I should certainly hope
you aren't presuming to speak for the majority here.

Question for the group.... How many of you does 'cybercat' speak for?
Outsider - 03 Sep 2007 16:14 GMT
>>And telling the stupid,
>
> So you recognize and own your particular deficit? I should certainly
> hope you aren't presuming to speak for the majority here.
>
> Question for the group.... How many of you does 'cybercat' speak for?

She at least speaks for herself, a.shole!  That is enough.  Did someone
tell you usenet was about representation?  And BTW: I speak for myself and
I think you are a suck-brained a.s.
Outsider - 03 Sep 2007 16:09 GMT
>> Reading the replies, I thought I was the only one disturbed by this
>> post. Who waits for an animal ER to call back?  I'm so sorry for
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> same person again. Throughout the rest of the day, I did not receive a
> call back.

You clearly have a car.  You might have used that instead of the phone.  
I am glad someone here called you out on this.  I am not sure your post
is even true but you sure don't get any stars in my book in either case.
RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 19:49 GMT
>> Indeed he is. The emergency vet care on weekends and holidays is
>> handled on a rotating basis. A call to my regular vet's number will be
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> I am glad someone here called you out on this.  I am not sure your post
> is even true but you sure don't get any stars in my book in either case.

For clarification since you obviously don't read well. Calls to the office
of my regular vet are forwarded to a full time answering service. They in
turn contact the vet who is on call at that time. It MAY or MAY NOT be my
regular vet. Most likely it is not since there are a number of them who
rotate this duty. These vets are from a number of different practices in a
wide geographical area. They ARE not from the same office at the same
location. A caller is instructed by the answering service to await a call
back from the on call vet, which normally occurs within 2 or 3 minutes. That
vet will direct you to their office. To just blindly drive off towards an
office that is most likely closed makes no sense. To follow up with a second
call after a reasonable response time has elapsed does. In either case, the
system did not work.
Outsider - 03 Sep 2007 20:33 GMT
>>> Indeed he is. The emergency vet care on weekends and holidays is
>>> handled on a rotating basis. A call to my regular vet's number will
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> after a reasonable response time has elapsed does. In either case, the
> system did not work.

You are very hung up on reading skills aren't you?  Why not try some
living skills on for size.  You have no emergency vet hospital where you
are?  No other vets?  No way to get help for this critter other than
forcing some crushed pill concoction down its throat?  Sure.
Outsider - 03 Sep 2007 20:49 GMT
>> Reading the replies, I thought I was the only one disturbed by this
>> post. Who waits for an animal ER to call back?  I'm so sorry for
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> same person again. Throughout the rest of the day, I did not receive a
> call back.

No emergency animal hospital in Lima, Ohio?
RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 22:35 GMT
> No emergency animal hospital in Lima, Ohio?

None. Situation as I described.
Rhonda - 03 Sep 2007 17:57 GMT
>> Yeah, Rob is a saint. He ran over this cat, right? Had the great
>> sense to pull into/out of his driveway with the air on full
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> post. Who waits for an animal ER to call back?  I'm so sorry for
> little Elvis. He's in a better place now.

No, you weren't the only one disturbed by this at all.

Rob, there is no other way to get vet care after hours than to wait for
an answering service? Isn't there am emergency clinic in driving
distance? If waiting for a call is the only option, I think I'd be on
the phone to the answering service, becoming an ugly customer until they
did more to find the vet, even if it were not the one to officially call
that day...

Rhonda
RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 19:53 GMT
> Rob, there is no other way to get vet care after hours than to wait for an
> answering service? Isn't there am emergency clinic in driving distance? If
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>
> Rhonda

Unfortunately, there is not a full time emergency clinic anywhere. Usually
the vet will cal or will direct the answering service to return a call with
directions on who to go see. A return call normally comes back in a few
minutes. This time it did not. A second call also got no response. Likewise,
I'm quite disturbed about it and will be in touch with my vet and the
answering service when normal busines resumes tomorrow morning.
RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 03:32 GMT
> Yeah, Rob is a saint. He ran over this cat, right? Had the great sense
> to pull into/out of his driveway with the air on full blast--knowing cats
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> "Robzip" likes very much to post here about dead cats that he has killed.
Looks like you're solidly in the minority here you mindless c.nt. AC fan or
not, none visible, which is not unusual at all. My perogative to use my AC
as I see fit which would have made f.ck all difference to the situation
anyway.  He came out from wherever he had been, out of line of sight . f.ck 
you... They often go seperate directions during the day. They DO know when
chow time is and make it a point to be here. This little guy had developed a
seemingly benign habit that ultimately put him in a dangerous situation.
Like I said in my other reply to this same post, there is much some people
could learn from our animals. You however seem incapable of learning
anything.
bookie - 03 Sep 2007 12:48 GMT
> > to pull into/out of his driveway with the air on full blast--knowing cats
> > were all over the place. Rob killed this cat, as surely as he put a bullet
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> could learn from our animals. You however seem incapable of learning
> anything.

maybe next time one of the cats develops that sort of habit would it
not be prudent to try to dissuade them from indulging in such
behaviour? quick squirt with a water pistol in their direction when
they do wander too near a car might be enough to put them off being so
close in future and might just save their lives sometime in the
future.
just an idea

bookie
RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 14:38 GMT
> maybe next time one of the cats develops that sort of habit would it
> not be prudent to try to dissuade them from indulging in such
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> future.
> just an idea

For the most part, these are semi feral cats that come and go at will. I
observe them in other parts of the neighborhood lying under cars, lying next
to wheels of parked cars, etc. The number of animals in my colony varies
from 6 to 10. I'm on the road several days a week at times, so identifying
and modifying behavior among the colony clan isn't really practical. Then
there is the matter of having 5 full time indoor critters to provide for and
keep up with. My wife does a fine job with them while I'm out, but when it
comes to the colony, dumping food for them twice a day is about as good as
it gets.
bookie - 03 Sep 2007 18:29 GMT
> > maybe next time one of the cats develops that sort of habit would it
> > not be prudent to try to dissuade them from indulging in such
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> comes to the colony, dumping food for them twice a day is about as good as
> it gets.

then don't get all upset when you kill one of them if that is all you
do, they was a way to avoid this horrible event but you chose not to
bother with it
Outsider - 03 Sep 2007 16:19 GMT
>> Yeah, Rob is a saint. He ran over this cat, right? Had the great
>> sense to pull into/out of his driveway with the air on full
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> reply to this same post, there is much some people could learn from
> our animals. You however seem incapable of learning anything.

So, what have YOU learned from this event?  You have already implied you
wont turn the stupid AC fan down, odd since in your first post you blamed
THAT for not hearing what you did but later you said it would not matter.  
Well, you know what?  Maybe you SHOULD have heard that cry.  It may have
stuck with you.  This assumes anything you said is actually true which I
am not too sure of.
RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 19:57 GMT
> So, what have YOU learned from this event?  You have already implied you
> wont turn the stupid AC fan down, odd since in your first post you blamed
> THAT for not hearing what you did but later you said it would not matter.

Hearing something was not the issue. Line of sight was perfectly clear.
Elvis came from some point behind and out of sight. What I have learned is
that many of those in this group don't read well for comprehension and take
a very distorted view of any situation.
Outsider - 03 Sep 2007 20:29 GMT
>> So, what have YOU learned from this event?  You have already implied
>> you wont turn the stupid AC fan down, odd since in your first post
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> learned is that many of those in this group don't read well for
> comprehension and take a very distorted view of any situation.

So your answer is you learned nothing?  Or did you miss the question (in
the first sentence) in your zeal to point out my reading comprehesion
failings?
RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 03:24 GMT
>> .. and I miss him already...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> anyone tells it was just a cat, is heartless sh.t

To some, they are just mere surplus animals. To me, they have qualities that
surpass the vast majority of the people I know. No cat has ever gossiped
about me. None of my cats, indoor pets or colony animals has ever stolen
from me. When things get tough, not one of my animal friends has ever
abandoned me until the storm blew over. Their affection is constant,
unquestioning, and sincere. Not one of them has ever shut me out when they
had a bad day. Instead they sought me out for relief and comfort.There is
much the more 'elevated' species could learn from my friends....
cybercat - 03 Sep 2007 05:38 GMT
>>> .. and I miss him already...
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> had a bad day. Instead they sought me out for relief and comfort.There is
> much the more 'elevated' species could learn from my friends....

And look forward to being run over and killed by you. Dickhead.
RobZip - 03 Sep 2007 15:52 GMT
>>There is  much the more 'elevated' species could learn from my friends....
>
> And look forward to being run over and killed by you. Dickhead.
Compare the contrast in the two lines above. Obviously you live for the
opportunity to be venomous and bitter and hateful. What a pathetic life.....
Outsider - 03 Sep 2007 16:12 GMT
>>>There is  much the more 'elevated' species could learn from my
>>>friends....
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> the opportunity to be venomous and bitter and hateful. What a pathetic
> life.....

No, she just cares more about cats than shitbrained a.sholes who run them
down through total negligence and lack of thought.
 
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