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Cranberry juice as a treatment for cystitis.

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Catman 07 - 28 Aug 2007 10:33 GMT
I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
treatment for cystitis. If so, how do you get your cat to take it?
Will they just slurp it up?
    Catman
bookie - 28 Aug 2007 13:06 GMT
> I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
> treatment for cystitis. If so, how do you get your cat to take it?
> Will they just slurp it up?
>         Catman

god knows,  but i do know you can get treats from some pet shops which
have cranberry stuff in them, dont; know the make but 'pets at home'
sell them for sure. I have never bought them so don;t know what cats
think of them.

i would have thought that cranberry juice by itself would be too sharp
for pusses to like, maybe if you dilute it?
bookie
cindys - 28 Aug 2007 13:34 GMT
>> I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
>> treatment for cystitis. If so, how do you get your cat to take it?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> sell them for sure. I have never bought them so don;t know what cats
> think of them.

Well, I know I think it's ridiculous. Someone (maybe on this group) once
quipped: "Do you see packs of feral cats hanging out in cranberry bogs?"
(Must be related to the African lions who kidnap dairy cows because they
need the milk :-).

> i would have thought that cranberry juice by itself would be too sharp
> for pusses to like, maybe if you dilute it?

Even if you dilute it, it's incredibly sour. That's why commercial cranberry
juice has so much sugar added.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Catman 07 - 28 Aug 2007 14:06 GMT
>>> I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
>>> treatment for cystitis. If so, how do you get your cat to take it?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>juice has so much sugar added.
>Best regards,

So, what if the juice is sweetened with aspartame or splenda? Are
those safe for cats?
    Catman

>---Cindy S.
cindys - 28 Aug 2007 15:16 GMT
snip

> So, what if the juice is sweetened with aspartame or splenda? Are
> those safe for cats?
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Don't know, but I wouldn't give it to my cat. I would give him sugar first.
But at any rate, (and this is not an attack), why are you treating feline
cystitis with cranberry juice? Has your vet actually diagnosed cystitis? Has
all conventional veterinary medicine failed? Even in humans, cranberry juice
is a mild *preventive* for urinary tract *infection* at best. It is not a
cure. Chronic human cystitis is sometimes treated with bladder infusions.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
cindys - 28 Aug 2007 15:19 GMT
> I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
> treatment for cystitis.
----------
What kind of cystitis? Does your cat have crystals? If so, what kind? Does
he have a bona fide urinary tract infection? Interstitial cystitis? Did you
vet advise you to give him cranberry juice?
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
oldhickory - 29 Aug 2007 00:52 GMT
interestingly, I did just see a "cranberry" product for cats xx (treat or
chew of some sort, I think--I wasn't looking closely) on the shelf at
petsmart today.  Maybe google will reveal something?

Good luck!

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>> I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
>> treatment for cystitis.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Best regards,
> ---Cindy S.
johnnaoleary - 29 Aug 2007 06:23 GMT
Hi Catman, I'm assuming that you've had your cat to the vet and are using the
appropriate medical treatments (antibiotics, special diet etc.). Cranberry
was one of many things I used to cope with my kitty's recurring UTI. Once we
got it treated and the infection went away, I began to use cranberry extract
as a preventative measure. I didn't give him juice though. There is actually
very little of whatever makes cranberry good for the urinary tract in
cranberry juice. Instead of the juice, I would use a cranberry extract. It
can be bought in any pharmacy or health food store. If you get the capsules,
they can be opened up and the powder inside can be mixed in the cat's food.
This is obviously easier if you're feeding wet food, which you should be if
your cat is prone to urinary tract problems. My cat didn't even notice it in
his food. Best of luck!!

>I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
>treatment for cystitis. If so, how do you get your cat to take it?
>Will they just slurp it up?
>    Catman
Catman 07 - 29 Aug 2007 14:05 GMT
>>I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
>>treatment for cystitis. If so, how do you get your cat to take it?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>very little of whatever makes cranberry good for the urinary tract in
>cranberry juice.

The first ingredient on the BEST cranberry juice I could find is:
WATER. So how much actually cranberry is in it is unknown. Probably as
little as the manufacturer can get away with.

>Instead of the juice, I would use a cranberry extract. It
>can be bought in any pharmacy or health food store. If you get the capsules,
>they can be opened up and the powder inside can be mixed in the cat's food.
>This is obviously easier if you're feeding wet food, which you should be if
>your cat is prone to urinary tract problems.

I've switched to canned food, and I will be trying raw food. I find it
very regrettable that there are no WARNING labels on dry cat food, and
the vets endorsement on the dry food package is ridiculous, imho.

>My cat didn't even notice it in his food. Best of luck!!

Thanks for the headsup on cranberry extract, John(?).  
    Catman
Phil P. - 30 Aug 2007 16:17 GMT
> I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
> treatment for cystitis.

I don't care what you've heard- its not a good idea. Cranberries are very
high in benzoic acid- which is toxic to cats in high doses.
Catman 07 - 31 Aug 2007 09:45 GMT
>> I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
>> treatment for cystitis.
>
>I don't care what you've heard- its not a good idea. Cranberries are very
>high in benzoic acid- which is toxic to cats in high doses.

Phil, I respect your opinion greatly. You are held in high esteem.
Thanks for the headsup. I'll use the cranberry juice, and the
cranberries, on myself.
            Catman
Phil P. - 01 Sep 2007 11:40 GMT
> >> I'm wondering if any has had any experience with cranberry juice as a
> >> treatment for cystitis.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> cranberries, on myself.
> Catman

Cranberries claim to fame is in the treatment of UTIs (not FIC) and isn't
what you think- Its not acidification of the urine- because in cats, the
added acidification isn't that much- at least not enough to make a
difference.  Its because some component in cranberries might help prevent
pathogenic E. Coli from adhering to the bladder wall lining.

I don't know the long-term effects of chronic ingestion of benzoic acid or
if its cumulative- So, I wouldn't give it to my cats.
 
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