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Psycho Pet Sitter From Hell (A cautionary tale) Long
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Nomen Nescio - 16 Aug 2007 21:10 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
My wife and I have been in need of a real vacation (thinking a week, or so, in Hawaii) this year. Since a trusted friend, who has looked after our cats over a 2 decade period, is now living an hour away, we began looking for a professional pet sitter. We interviewed a, somewhat local, lady who had been doing petsitting for several years. On the first meeting she spent an hour with us, no charge, discussing TK's special needs. Particularly the Diltiazem twice a day. She said she was good at giving pets a pill. She seemed nice, pleasant, and caring. I showed her how TK gets "pilled". We get his food out of the pantry, get his 1/2 pill, pat the stool in the kitchen saying "Time to feed the Kitty". TK jumps up on the stool and waits to have the pill popped in his mouth. He then gets dinner. He's a REAL good boy about that. So she stood next to me as I gave him his pill and it went well even though he was nervous about the stranger in the room. We scheduled a supervised visit with the sitter for a week later so she could try "pilling" him. I went through the routine with her, again, but after I coaxed him up on the stool, she gave him his pill and fed him. It went fairly well. We scheduled another visit where we would just stand off to the side and let her go through the whole routine. We also told her that, in consideration of TK's special needs and quirky nature, we wanted to pay her $20/visit instead of the $15/visit that she normally charged. The next visit started out OK. TK was becoming somewhat used to her and only hid for a couple minutes when she came in the door. It was time for his pill and the plan was that I was going to stand in the kitchen with them as she went through the "pilling" routine. We reviewed the routine with her, again. She got the food and pill out of the pantry. Then I had to remind her that we wanted her to wash her hands before pilling him. TK followed into the kitchen, knowing that it was dinner time, and she patted the stool. Being a little nervous about the change in routine, TK did little circles around the stool but wouldn't jump up. Then I started seeing disturbing behavior in the sitter. She started getting louder, and LOuder, and LOUDer, and LOUDER while talking to him. The wrong thing to do with a jumpy ex-feral (warning #1). Then she started telling me that we should just be more forceful with him because this is "his game" (warning #2). After about 10 minutes of this I decided that I should coax him up on the stool, back off, and let her handle it. TK was still a little nervous from being yelled at, but he jumped up on the stool. We had told her, several times, that he does no tolerate being held and to just open his mouth and pop the pill in. So what does she do.....wrap her arms around him to restrain him (warning #3). So TK squirms his way out of her arms and goes to jump off the stool. Then she grabs him in mid-jump and is standing there holding him in the air by his front legs. Then she looks at me, goes "OH!" and lowers him to the floor. Luckily, TK's unhurt, but there's no way I'd ever leave him in her care. Then she tell me I should really be just grabbing him by the scruff of the neck, pushing him down to the floor, and pushing the pill in his mouth because I let him control me. "OK, bitch. You're out of here" I thought to myself. Seeing how agitated she was becoming, I told her "He's a little nervous, today, we better let him settle down and try another day". I really just wanted to get her the f**k out the door without her creating a "scene". If you were there you would have seen a woman becoming unglued. She ignores me and starts yelling at TK, who is now hiding under the dining room table, to come to her. She's practically screaming at him. "I'll give him his pill" I said, as I tried to grab him from under the table. There's no way he was going to allow that and he went running off. "We're done, today", I said (rather forcefully) as I shoved $20 in her hand and crowded her toward the door. My wife, who had been watching this from the den, joined us in the kitchen and blocked her from heading back away from the door. As we were moving her to the door, she was telling us that we didn't know anything about handling animals, TK was in control, and we need to change the way we were dealing with him. Finally, we got her out the door and watched, with relief, as she got in her car and drove off. "What a Whacko!", my wife said, "How did you keep yourself from throwing her out a window". Obviously, she wasn't going to be our petsitter.
I guess she had talked to a friend that evening who told her to get us to use "pill pockets". We got the following e-mail from her: (snip) "there is a product called "pill pockets" that is available from a vet (possibly otc but she wasn't sure) that a couple of her clients use to give meds to their cats. it resembles a tender vittle and comes in a couple of the ususal cat yummy flavors. you just put the pill inside and squish it together and feed it to the cat. " (snip) " if you are willing to try this method let me know. i think i am going to cancel our friday appt. until we can come up with something that i feel sure will work for me. i think it would create to much uncertainty on my part to go in and have to pill tk the way we were trying yesterday. it's too much his game! if you are willing to try the pill pockets call your vet, explain the situation and see if you can get a prescription for them if they require one. if you get them we can go from there. then maybe we can "train" him to take his pill this way together. if he likes them it would be so much quicker and easier for everyone. also if i were to have to stay for an hour or so to get him pilled if you and (Wife) were away i would have to charge you for an hour of my time which would come to $30 as each visit is $15 and is 20-30 mins. "
Keep in mind, we had told her we'd pay her $20/visit or more if it took more time.
My response:
"Yes, we're familiar with the "pill pockets". When we first adopted TK, we hid his antibiotics in a piece of ham. This worked well for a while and then he got wise to it and just spit the pill out. But the real problem, now, is that the diltiazem he's getting is an "extended release" pill and has to be swallowed as a solid pill (in this case, 1/2 pill) to work effectively. If he bit down on the pill in a "pill pocket" and crushed it, it would change the timed release of the medication and could possibly result in an overdose. This is also the reason we can't just crush it up and hide it in his dinner. The only safe way to handle it is to put the pill in the back of his mouth so he can swallow it whole. We had explained to you at the start that he was a jumpy cat who would not tolerate being held. It's just the way he is and we've learned to deal with it. It took a lot of love and patience to get him to the point where he will jump up on the chair to get his pill at dinnertime. It works very well and we have no intention of changing the routine. He will, quite often, jump down off the chair before he gets his pill. But he also knows that he won't be fed until he gets the pill, so he generally will jump right back up on the chair again. When you grabbed him as he was jumping off the chair (which we did caution you not the do), he immediately became fearful of you and things just went downhill from there. There really is no need to be more forceful with him, as you suggested, and we have no desire to take that approach with any pet. Especially a cat with Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy who is prone to stress related heart failure. So I think, at this point, we can both agree that he will probably be a little too much for you to handle and the best thing to do is end things right here before you invest any more of your time or TK gets hurt.
Thank you for the time you have spent trying to help us out."
I thought that was a fairly nice and non-confrontational way to put a clear end to the relationship.
Her response, was not quite so "nice and non-confrontational".
"wow.......for someone who was truly trying to help you people out that was a rather harsh email. i spent well over three hours of my time at your house between the two visits. if you felt i wasn't the one for the job, which you certainly expressed just the opposite the whole time i was there, you should've just said this isn't going to work after the first attempt. i feel you're not the alpha animal in the house which is how it should be for you to be able to help tk. he's in charge not you, lol!! i was NOT harsh and did NOT hurt him and i know that you are just upset that you're now at square one again. too bad the pill pockets wouldn't work but i wish you luck with your search for someone who can pill him the way it needs to be done. i just don't have the time in my busy schedule and can't compromise my other clients visits for a situation like this. i'm sure you'll eventually find someone. i won't open any further emails from you or listen to any messages you might leave on my machine so there will be no further contact between us. i don't have to and won't put up with insults from someone i was trying to help and who expressed pleasure with my efforts!! and tk wasn't fearful of me at all and you know it and kept repeating that, HE was the one who kept coming back to ME, it was you he was fearful of because you were attempting to get him out from under the table!! i feel you're very frustrated with the whole pilling situation."
I really liked the "there will be no further contact between us" part. She fired us after we fired her.
But I'm sure glad we got to watch her when things weren't going well. If she'd treat TK like that while we were watching, I'd hate to think what she would do if we weren't there to see what she was doing.
So BE CAREFUL, folks. That sweet petsitter that shows up to care for your loved pets may just turn out to be a whacko demon in disguise.
Matthew - 16 Aug 2007 21:58 GMT Nomen make sure you call the BBB and any sources that list problems with professionals such as http://www.badbusinessbureau.com/default.asp
I would have had the b@tch by the scuff of the neck taking her a@@ out the door after strike two. Remember Nanny cams are not just for kids
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 217 lines] > =I9ub > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Nomen Nescio - 20 Aug 2007 05:10 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com>
>I would have had the b@tch by the scuff of the neck taking her a@@ out the >door after strike two. By the time she drove off, I'd dug the finger nail of my index finger into my thumb to where it left a bruise. The woman was in her late 50's, maybe early 60's, so it would have been awfully hard to justify to the police why I got physical and tossed her out the door. And like I said, initially she comes off as being very sweet and caring. It's a good act. I'm just glad that I got to see the REAL person before I made the mistake of leaving TK in her care.
>Remember Nanny cams are not just for kids Honestly, right now we're VERY reluctant to try another pet sitter. There are only two other sitters in the area, and one of them is friends with this nut case. We haven't called the other one.
bonbon - 16 Aug 2007 22:09 GMT What's her address? I'd like to give her a pill. I promise I'll be gentle.
-bonbon
Charlie Wilkes - 16 Aug 2007 22:16 GMT > i feel you're not the alpha animal in the house which is > how it should be for you to be able to help tk. he's in charge not you, > lol!! Interesting post, Nomen. This god-damned "alpha" crap is sacred text for every hillbilly in the country. If you go over to rec.pets.dogs.behavior you will find quite a few people -- including one who makes her living as a dog trainer -- blithely puking out the "alpha" doctrine in very much the same kind of language that your would-be pet sitter used. No amount of personal failure ever discourages these people from thinking they have all the answers.
FWIW, Yale University sponsored a 30-year study of canine pack behavior, which utterly demolished the idea that the most aggressive, domineering dogs automatically become the pack leaders. It turns out that the dynamics of a dog pack are subtle, and the leaders, while they don't let other dogs push them around, employ deference and courtesy much more than they do brute force.
Of course, all of this is notwithstanding the fact that cats are a different species with completely different social tendencies.
Charlie
Nomen Nescio - 20 Aug 2007 06:50 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com>
>Interesting post, Nomen. This god-damned "alpha" crap is sacred text for >every hillbilly in the country. You called that one dead on. She lives in one of the hilltowns in the Berkshires.
bookie - 17 Aug 2007 00:50 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] > > read more ? i am absolutely speechless after reading this, and astounded that this animal abuser has not been reported to some authority or other, what on earth is this bitch going on about with this 'alpha animal' crap? I don;t have animals in my house in order to scare and intimidate them in to being under my control, I have them here to give them a nice home and fully accept it if they choose to be in charge of proceedings (which they seem to be, who am i to complain? I'm just the human can- opener, door opener, treat dispenser, tummy rubber and I know my place). does this woman think people should have animals in order to bully them and make them do as they are told all the time? i don't really know what the format is with dogs but that sure as hell is not what happens with cats, what a total psycho bitch! why is doing petsitting anyway? she obviously has no empathy with animals or recognises (or evens cares) when she is caring the hell out fo them.
i think you were much more restrained than i would have been; as soon as she has started to raise her voice i would have grabbed HER by the scruff of her neck and thrown her out of the door. I would have enjoyed making a scene as then the neighbours would come out, ask what was going on and i would gladly have told them to ensure that she got no business from anyone in my street. Is there any way you can make it known what she is like? local papers? you really shoudl warn people about her as otherwise they will unwittingly leave their nearest and dearest in her 'care' and then god knows how many cats and dogs she could traumatise with her f.cked up methods and ideas.
I do like the bit in your email about TK having Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (i assume that is what the pill is for), if she were at all normal she would be feeling very guilty at treating an ill cat in such a rough and violent and aggressive way, but she isnt; obviously.
what a f.cked up bitch, exactly why if I can get my housemates to pill jessie i don't go away as I woudl not trust anyone to do it properly. Her felimazole also shoudl not be crushed but shoudl go down her throat whole ( it is a tiny tiny pill so not a problem) but some people who have offered to come round have said that they would just crush it up and put it in her food which would cause big problems for her. I have not told them 'thanks but no thanks' I am not that diplomatic, I just tell them why i will not be accepting their offer and why one should never crush up a pill in food if told by their vet specifically not to. If they take offence they sod 'em; the health of my cat is far more importnat than keeping them sweet, and anyway they have learnt something. Also jessie is no trouble to pill at all, she knows itis coming, and she knows that she gets a few treats straight after everytime so accepts it, no need for hiding in food or grabbing scruffs of necks.
seriously, please let people know about what this woman is really about, think of all the kitties you will be helping
best of luck, Bookie
Nomen Nescio - 20 Aug 2007 07:10 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: bookie <emily_booker@hotmail.com>
>i am absolutely speechless after reading this, and astounded that this >animal abuser has not been reported to some authority or other, what [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >opener, door opener, treat dispenser, tummy rubber and I know my >place). Exactly. TK is my buddy. And for an ex-feral, he's quite cooperative. Any cat that will jump up on a stool and wait to be given a pill didn't get that way by being wrestled to the floor by the scruff of the neck.
>i think you were much more restrained than i would have been; as soon >as she has started to raise her voice i would have grabbed HER by the >scruff of her neck and thrown her out of the door. I've mellowed with age. Now, If I'd left TK in her care and he was hurt as a result..........
>what a f.cked up bitch, exactly why if I can get my housemates to pill >jessie i don't go away as I woudl not trust anyone to do it properly. I had a good friend who looked after our girls over 2 decades when we took a vacation. When he would visit us, they would always greet him with leg rubs. So I knew he treated them well. We REALLY NEED a vacation. But we don't need one enough to just leave TK in the care of someone we're not comfortable with.
I guess that a week of sun, hiking volcanos, skin diving, and hot sex on a Maui beach in the moonlight is going to have to wait a while.
Charlie Wilkes - 20 Aug 2007 20:32 GMT > I had a good friend who looked after our girls over 2 decades when we > took a vacation. When he would visit us, they would always greet him [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I guess that a week of sun, hiking volcanos, skin diving, and hot sex on > a Maui beach in the moonlight is going to have to wait a while. That's a shame, Nomen. Have you considered a facility of some kind? There must be some fancy ones in the Boston area that pamper the animals.
Charlie
sheelagh - 17 Aug 2007 02:15 GMT >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 121 lines] >That sweet petsitter that shows up to care for your loved pets may just >turn out to be a whacko demon in disguise. Good Riddance to bad rubbish, I say.
Thank goodness you are the sort of couple who bothered to ensure that you do pick the right person. These days, so many people choose to trust the very name of a professional cat sitter, in thier misguided ignorance, & truely believe that they are doing both themselves & their cat a favour,... then wonder why they come home to a near fragile- cat when they return. It's really sad that people should have to check out the Mary Poppins they choose to entrust their precious feline family to, but as with children, we do have to.
I think you did exactly the right thing, & thank goodness that you did take the time to check her out. Like Bookie, I would do anything that I could to ensure that she doesn't treat any of your friends or neighbors cat's to the same unsuitable, & unscrupulous personal regimes as well. This woman has no business even considering looking after other peoples beloved extended family.
Well done to both you & your wife for going through the checks that you did, You did TK a huge favour there!! I also very much hope that you can find a real "Mary Poppins" this time, who really will lavish TK with the care & love he richly deserves, & you both get that break you were hoping to take as well. There are good pet sitters out there, it is just a question of finding the right one for you all, including TK. It makes me disgusted just thinking about it!
Sheelagh >"o"<
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Nomen Nescio - 20 Aug 2007 07:00 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: "sheelagh via CatKB.com" <u33188@uwe>
>Like Bookie, I would do anything that I could to >ensure that she doesn't treat any of your friends or neighbors cat's to the >same unsuitable, & unscrupulous personal regimes as well. This woman has no >business even considering looking after other peoples beloved extended family. That's a VERY sensitive area here in the US. Lawsuits are becoming the national pastime.
>Well done to both you & your wife for going through the checks that you did, >You did TK a huge favour there!! I also very much hope that you can find a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >right one for you all, including TK. It makes me disgusted just thinking >about it! After this incident, I may have the next pet sitter (if there even will be a "next") running for the door after the interrogation I'm going to put them through. I think telling them that I would "torture them for a week before killing them if they ever abused TK" might leave them a wee bit put off.
sheelagh - 20 Aug 2007 15:43 GMT >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >think telling them that I would "torture them for a week before killing them if >they ever abused TK" might leave them a wee bit put off.
>That's a VERY sensitive area here in the US. Lawsuits are becoming the national >pastime. That is a dreadful shame really. Some people take the extent of the law to the extreme, but not in the sense of justice being served unfortunately. It seems to be about the compensation involved. Would I be right in assuming this?
Interestingly, I am in the middle of a court case right now, regarding the abuse of one of my cat's.
Lilly is my little chocy birman buddy, & a while back, I took her to the veterinary surgery because something was just *Not Right* with her. To cut a very long story short, she kept my cat for over three and a half days before actually treating her. As a consequence, Lilly almost lost her life. And, She picked up a strain of avian flu, & was also kept overnight with *no care after a serious operation*- she also had drips in @ the time. As a consequences of the flu, I lost a total of 10 kittens lives, & all of my cat's came down with the same flu, & upper respiritory infections. It was bad enough loosing the baby's, So... @ the time, I was grateful that was all the loss it inflicted. Now, I'm Plain furious about it! Financially, this episode cost me a total of over £3K (£3,000)
In this country, it is against the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons guidelines to leave a post operative cat with no care @ all. This also happened for the preceding 2 nights as well, & we were able to prove this because when I went to see my cat post op, I took one look @ my cat, & "Knew" she had been neglected. Fortunately, I had my mobile phone on me, & had the common sense to take pictures of both her & also Lilly's preoperative case note, & care sheet's, & also her post operative care sheets too. It was utterly clear that *no one cared for my cat for over 38 hours before she had to take her to theater, to save her life*. The one thing we couldn't do, was rescue our cat without criminal damage charges. We couldn't even locate the vet herself!!
After rescuing Lilly, I felt I had been walked over once too often, & went to get legal advice, then prosecuted her with Professional misconduct, & animal abuse. Initially, she offered me the cost of the operation that she charged me to save her. ( £500-what an insult!)
Just over 3 weeks ago, she offered me £2K (thousand pounds), to drop the charges and settle out of court. I nearly laughed when I saw the offer....
I advised my brief (solicitor), to decline the offer. Only this morning, she has made me another offer of £5K, & my legal fee's too. My brief's advice is asking me to consider this offer. I might post this, just to toss it in the ball court to see what all of you think about this. Would you accept it, or keep pushing harder? If I win, I stand to win quite substantial amount, & she would be struck off the list of surgeons for professional misconduct, & they would withdraw her license to practise as a vet. If I lost, then I face legal costs, & the loss of my costs incurred, & she gets to carry on like this never happened.
>After this incident, I may have the next pet sitter (if there even will be a "next") >running for the door after the interrogation I'm going to put them through. I >think telling them that I would "torture them for a week before killing them if >they ever abused TK" might leave them a wee bit put off. I guess you might be right there, but the principle is the same. You do don't allow any old fool in your house to abuse your family. It is wrong, & you did the right thing by your cat. You have no idea how much I regret placing the welfare of Lilly into her care, because the consequences were massive.
You just don't expect not to be able to trust your vet! apparently, her horse was chronically ill, & she had to have it shot. However, in that job, personal problems do not take precedence over her client's animals welfare IMHO
There are good people out there, it is just a matter of finding them. One of the best ways to find a good one, is through the recommendation's of someone you do trust. I really do hope that you find one soon who is good for TK
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bookie - 21 Aug 2007 00:44 GMT > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > > - Show quoted text - when did all this happen then? i had no idea about the 'out of court settlement' offer from this woman, what are you going to do? I have to say as I read the part form 'she offered ?2k' and then to 'she has offered ?5k and all my legal bills paid' my grin just got bigger and bigger, you obviously have her in a very tight corner and she knows she is on the ropes and what she stands to lose.
as you say, not taking this offer and actually going to court might cost you dear if you lose, but then again if you do go to court it will give your case and the story of what lilly went through a lot of publicity (hopefully) and if you win this woman will never practise as a vet again and no other animals will ever have to suffer as poor lilly did. Also other people will be more vary of vets in future and more vets will be careful not to skimp on giving the proper care to their patients, so another result of it will be perhaps vets being more careful and less likely to act in an unprofessional or sloppy way for fear of being dragged through the courts like this. Whatever people think of lawsuits like this they can serve a purpose to prevent future tragedy; yes, we know that whatever money you get will not bring lilly's kittens back BUT the whole case itself and the subsequent publicity etc may prevent a similar tragedy happening again in the future.
yu have to think about what you want; is ?5k enough to cover the bills caused by her carelessness and misconduct? is it money you want or are you just interested in makign sure that justice is done and that she is not allowed to do similar to any other animal ever again? what is the likelihood of you winning and how strong is your case? you seem to have very strong evidence supporting your case, what does the RVC say about it? if you take the settlement can you then also go to the press and give your story to them? Lets face it; this really is in the public's best interest to know about this woman and her shoddy practise so why not? or would there be a clause inthe sttlement preventing you from doing that? i would be inclined to take the ?5k as long as i could then also go to the press AND make a report to the RVC, as all i woudl really want woudl be for everyone to know about what she has done.
if the ?5k came with a clause stopping you going to the pres I would then be inclined to take it to court, as win or lose it would make the papers and she woudl be ruined and never be in a position to inflict such pain on another animal ever again (a good thing in my mind).
for me the main result I would want would be to see this woman never ever work as a vet ever again, personally i would not care about the money and I am sure you just want your bills paid which is right of course, i would just want to prevent this happening to any other poor aninmals ever again and to make sure that this woman is suitably punished for what she did and to be held up as an example to all vets of what coudl happen if they do not act in a professional manner at all times and treat their charges with the respect and care that the clients expect.
by taking the ?5k out of court settlement she would still be free to continue practising i assume? so presumably it could happen again? it really depends on what you want to get out of all of this; money, justice, whatever, and how likely it is that you will win if it goes to court.
you obviously have a difficult decision to make but i am VERY glad that you have taken it this far, VERY proud of you for doing so, and also VERY grateful that you have been brave enough to do so too. It is only through people making a stand about things like this that the world is made into a better and safer place for our loved ones, by making people who mistreat animals know that we will not let them get away with it.
good on you sheelagh! and best of luck with it thanks, bookie, jessie, terri, and mr mcgregor
saxrocco - 20 Aug 2007 19:25 GMT Hi Nomen There really are evil people everywhere isn't there. Good job you saw it and put a stop to it. I am so grateful to my inlaws who take care of our pets. They lived with us for sometime though so they grew fond of them as any human person would! I too hope that the right person comes a long. I am sure you will keep us posted?
And Sheelagh that was a sad story too, get the nasty neglectful people for all you can. No money can replace a beloved pet, but you deserve something.
Take care Clare x
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >think telling them that I would "torture them for a week before killing them if >they ever abused TK" might leave them a wee bit put off. sheelagh - 20 Aug 2007 20:56 GMT >Hi Nomen >There really are evil people everywhere isn't there. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Take care >Clare x
>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >[quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>think telling them that I would "torture them for a week before killing them if >>they ever abused TK" might leave them a wee bit put off. Hi,
Nice to see you around again Clare. It isn't so much just the money that actually concerns me.
I am livid about two things:
1: when you take your beloved cat to the vet surgery, you expect 2 things. The first is that the welfare & health of your cat comes first, & the second is that your cat comes home in better health, than when you took them there.
This was not the case though- she (Lilly) came back nearly @ deaths door, & the flu killed 10 kittens!!!
Fancy having the cheek to offer me back what she charged her to do the job in the first place!
2: What message does it send, if I take the money, then allow her to continue treating animals, knowing that I could have stopped her in her tracks?
It's just a hard one to mull over. Of course the money is tempting, because it cost me a fortune that I didn't really have to spare @ the time, & I could do with right now, to improve life for the puss cat's we have here. It is a dilemma, but one I want to see through for the right reasons, not just because I could do with the money she cost me, & I lost the kittens. also, all the rest of the crew were really sick too. It's been a head ache. I've had to find a new vet, further away from us, the cost of getting there is an issue, in the case of an emergency, & that matters a lot, doesn't it? (Much Better surgery though, & so much nicer too- perhaps she did me a favour inadvertently)
I'm just not sure how to proceed. I need to consider it with both my heart & my head as well. I've never liked dilemma's.... Sheelagh>"o"<
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saxrocco - 21 Aug 2007 21:38 GMT Thanks Sheelagh for your acknowledgment of me.
I agree with what Bookie said about doing the right thing...I agree the vet should be made to pay and should never have been in the profession in the first place if this is how she has treat your cat...Has she done this before? I am not as clued up as all of you in here, but what I am proud to share with you is the love of cats. As I have said already my new additions come in 7 days, so I am counting down BUT I am going to enjoy my bank holiday!
Keep strong and do what is right for you and your cats past and present!!! Clare x
>>Hi Nomen >>There really are evil people everywhere isn't there. [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >I've never liked dilemma's.... >Sheelagh>"o"< Sherry - 17 Aug 2007 05:37 GMT Wow. First, I'm very sorry to hear about the petsitter nightmare.
But secondly, it was honestly refreshing to hear this account from someone who loves their pets enough to go to such lengths to ensure their welll- being and safety in your absence. You wouldn't believe how many people--as an example of the other end of the spectrum -- will put out an extra litter box, and a couple of mixing bowls full of dry food and water and call it good. You're actually leaving your beloved pet at the absolute mercy of a virtual stranger. I don't blame you for the extended interviews OR for rejecting this one. It would be interesting if you were able to hook up a webcam to find out exactly how he's treated when you're gone.
Sherry
sheelagh - 17 Aug 2007 12:17 GMT >Wow. First, I'm very sorry to hear about the petsitter nightmare. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Sherry What an excellent idea! I hadn't thought of this, but it sounds like the ideal answer, & you have the peace of mind knowing that you can sign in at any given time & watch how things are going. I'm not sure whether I would advise the sitter that I was doing so, or not as yet. If you warn them,, then they will be on their best behaviour- but the the down side is, that if you don't tell them & they treat your cat terribly, then you face having to catch then next plane home.
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Matthew - 17 Aug 2007 19:29 GMT >>Wow. First, I'm very sorry to hear about the petsitter nightmare. >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Sheelagh >"o"< But there is your excuse right there Judge I was out of the area and watched them hurt one of my furballs over the internet thru the nanny cam. I jumped on a plane to come rescue them since law enforcement views this a property crime . The whole planes trip home I was enthralled it just got worse and worse till I got there than I don't know what happened. I swear I don't know how the light pole got shoved up her A@@ sideways. I don't know how I backed my truck over her 25 times
bookie - 17 Aug 2007 23:34 GMT > >>Wow. First, I'm very sorry to hear about the petsitter nightmare. > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > - Show quoted text - only 25 times? that's not enough in my view, this evil animal abusing bitch needs to be exposed to the community before she really hurts someone's poor pussy
Matthew - 18 Aug 2007 00:29 GMT >> >>Wow. First, I'm very sorry to hear about the petsitter nightmare. >> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > this evil animal abusing bitch needs to be exposed to the community > before she really hurts someone's poor pussy By that time I would need new tires for I would be backing up at least 90 kph ;-)
sheelagh - 20 Aug 2007 14:50 GMT >>>Wow. First, I'm very sorry to hear about the petsitter nightmare. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >don't know how the light pole got shoved up her A@@ sideways. I don't know >how I backed my truck over her 25 times Hmmm, I'm guessing you have no idea where the spade found @ the site of the shallow grave, or the body of the woman came from either, then?
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CatNipped - 20 Aug 2007 21:57 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 207 lines] > That sweet petsitter that shows up to care for your loved pets may just > turn out to be a whacko demon in disguise. WOW! If I were a pet sitter and could pill an animal as easily as you pill TK, I sure wouldn't try to change the procedure! I've been lucky that mine have never had to have medicaitons while I was away so it was just a matter or feeding, scooping and a little playing/petting for the pet sitter - and even then I called several of her past clients (even though my vet had recommended her). I think if my cats had to be medicated while I was away I'd try to find a cats-only vet and board them there.
Hugs,
CatNipped
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