Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2007
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mespamela@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2007 22:50 GMT Well, he has been given cat milk since he was a baby and for the last 16 years he has had it every morning. I did not give him any today. We also give him aspirin for his bones, per our vet. I noticed that when we gave him the aspirin, he would get sick. I stopped giving him the aspirin and he seems to be keeping his food down much better, thank God! Other then grass, is there anything else that would help his tummy fel better? and is there anything else I could give him other then aspirin for his arthritis?
cybercat - 26 Jul 2007 22:51 GMT > Well, he has been given cat milk since he was a baby and for the last > 16 years he has had it every morning. I did not give him any today. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > his tummy fel better? and is there anything else I could give him > other then aspirin for his arthritis? Aspirin is deadl for cats, are you crazy? Turn off your computer and Take your cat to the vet.
mespamela@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2007 22:58 GMT > <mespam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Aspirin is deadl for cats, are you crazy? Turn off your computer and > Take your cat to the vet. But the Vet is the one that told us to give it to him!
mespamela@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2007 23:07 GMT On Jul 26, 2:58 pm, mespam...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > <mespam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > But the Vet is the one that told us to give it to him! If aspirin is deadly for cats then why would the vet tell ust to give it to him?
cybercat - 26 Jul 2007 23:17 GMT >> But the Vet is the one that told us to give it to him! > > If aspirin is deadly for cats then why would the vet tell ust to give > it to him? http://www.pets.ca/pettips/tips-8.htm
Matthew - 26 Jul 2007 23:09 GMT >> <mespam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > But the Vet is the one that told us to give it to him! Ok my other post has not show up yet but what type of aspirin are you giving him is it aspirin or Acetaminophen ( Tylenol) Why does the vet have him on it what dosage are you giving him and when
cindys - 26 Jul 2007 23:24 GMT >>> <mespam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > giving him is it aspirin or Acetaminophen ( Tylenol) > Why does the vet have him on it what dosage are you giving him and when -------- Aspirin is not deadly for cats but I think the problem arises because of the risk of overdose. A safe dose of aspirin for a cat is 81 mg (aka low-dose aspirin or baby aspirin) twice a week. Tylenol and ibuprofen (Motrin) are not types of aspirin, but completely different medications and should not be given to cats at all. Best regards, ---Cindy
Matthew - 26 Jul 2007 23:13 GMT Just some info on it some are not on topic but you can get the hint
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mespamela@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2007 23:26 GMT > Just some info on it some are not on topic but you can get the hint > [quoted text clipped - 207 lines] > > read more ? Wow, good to know! The Vet told us to give him a 1/4 of children's aspirin every other day.
Matthew - 26 Jul 2007 23:37 GMT On Jul 26, 3:13 pm, "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote:
> Just some info on it some are not on topic but you can get the hint Wow, good to know! The Vet told us to give him a 1/4 of children's aspirin every other day.
It takes about 3 to 4 four days for a
But why? What type of children's aspirin? if it is Tylenol stop immediately and contact another vet was it for arthritis?
mespamela@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2007 23:42 GMT > <mespam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > contact another vet > was it for arthritis? it is Children's chewable aspirin. it's for his arthritis, and we were only giving him 1/4 every other day.
Matthew - 26 Jul 2007 23:51 GMT >> <mespam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > it is Children's chewable aspirin. it's for his arthritis, and we > were only giving him 1/4 every other day. Ok but I am making sure it is not Acetaminophen. I don't have two legs children you have to help me out on ingredients
mespamela@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2007 23:55 GMT > <mespam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > - Show quoted text - active ingredients are - aspirin 81 mg, and that's all it says.
Matthew - 27 Jul 2007 00:07 GMT >> <mespam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > active ingredients are - aspirin 81 mg, and that's all it says. Ok it is not the other which I was worried about Cindy posted about this so in limited dosages it can be ok. But one of the side effects is gastric irritation I listed the side effects in a reply in this thread to cybercat so it could be a culprit of the problem
cindys - 27 Jul 2007 00:32 GMT > <mespamela@yahoo.com> wrote in message snip
>> active ingredients are - aspirin 81 mg, and that's all it says. >> > Ok it is not the other which I was worried about > Cindy posted about this so in limited dosages it can be ok. But one of > the side effects is gastric irritation I listed the side effects in a > reply in this thread to cybercat so it could be a culprit of the problem ------- You won't get any argument from regarding the possibility of gastric irritation from aspirin. If Sammy were my cat, I don't think I would give him the aspirin for this reason. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
Stacia - 27 Jul 2007 01:49 GMT >active ingredients are - aspirin 81 mg, and that's all it says. My cat Spam was on a half of a children's aspirin a day, and it was okay but it did make his tummy a bit upset. You definitely do NOT want to give a cat Tylenol / acetaminophen, though, it's poison to them. Hope your kitty feels better soon.
Stacia
Matthew - 26 Jul 2007 23:44 GMT > On Jul 26, 3:13 pm, "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote: >> Just some info on it some are not on topic but you can get the hint [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It takes about 3 to 4 four days for a Sorry cat's system to break it down
> But why? > What type of children's aspirin? if it is Tylenol stop immediately and > contact another vet > was it for arthritis? cindys - 26 Jul 2007 23:55 GMT > On Jul 26, 3:13 pm, "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote: >> Just some info on it some are not on topic but you can get the hint [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > contact another vet > was it for arthritis? ----- Matthew, Tylenol is acetaminophen, NOT aspirin. Best regards, --Cindy S.
Matthew - 27 Jul 2007 00:06 GMT >> On Jul 26, 3:13 pm, "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote: >>> Just some info on it some are not on topic but you can get the hint [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Best regards, > --Cindy S. Yes I know thank you ;-) but I did not know what is in children's aspirin. There are many cheap versions of aspirin that say they are aspirin but are actually acetaminophen that is what I am making sure of. I don't have young kids so I don't keep any in stock but I got bottles of aspirin that is actually are acetaminophen tablets
cindys - 27 Jul 2007 00:43 GMT >>> On Jul 26, 3:13 pm, "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote: >>>> Just some info on it some are not on topic but you can get the hint [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > There are many cheap versions of aspirin that say they are aspirin but are > actually acetaminophen that is what I am making sure of. Are you sure the bottle says "aspirin?" (Bonafide aspirin is actually much cheaper than acetaminophen)
> I don't have young kids so I don't keep any in stock but I got bottles of > aspirin that is actually are acetaminophen tablets Not to start an argument over this, but I find it difficult to believe that you have bottles of medicine that say "Aspirin" on the label but then when you read the ingredients, you see "acetaminophen." This would be completely illegal and would lead to lawsuits up the wahzoo for anyone who might have an allergy to acetaminophen. These are two completely different, unrelated medications. For one thing, aspirin is an anti-inflammatory and acetaminophen isn't. It would be like having a bottle of medicine that is labeled "penicillin" but it really contains metronidazole. They are both antibiotics, but they have totally different chemical structures, different mechanisms of action, are effective against different organisms. Are you sure the bottle doesn't say something like "Children's pain reliever"? Can you check? If what you are telling me is for real, I will be making a ton of phone calls come tomorrow morning, I promise you. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
Cheryl - 27 Jul 2007 01:03 GMT > Are you > sure the bottle doesn't say something like "Children's pain > reliever"? Can you check? If what you are telling me is for > real, I will be making a ton of phone calls come tomorrow > morning, I promise you. My own concerns way back when Scarlett was prescribed this were more like "do they even make children's aspirin anymore?" because it isn't safe to give CHILDREN real aspirin. I went to the drug store to get some and asked at the pharmacy, and the pharmacist told me it was now labeled "low dose", for adults for heart disease prevention/treatment. I think we're all stuck in the past with the "children's aspirin" label.
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cindys - 27 Jul 2007 01:43 GMT >> Are you >> sure the bottle doesn't say something like "Children's pain [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > like "do they even make children's aspirin anymore?" because it isn't > safe to give CHILDREN real aspirin. Correct. There is a risk for the development of Reye's syndrome (potentially fatal nerve and liver damage) in a child or teenager with a fever, or flu-like symptoms, or chicken pox who is given aspirin.
>I went to the drug store to get > some and asked at the pharmacy, and the pharmacist told me it was now > labeled "low dose", for adults for heart disease > prevention/treatment. I think we're all stuck in the past with the > "children's aspirin" label. I have seen it labeled both ways. Even now, some of the bottles are still labeled "children's aspirin." I don't know why some companies are still labeling it this way. But at any rate, "Aspirin" is actually a trademark. The bottles that are still labeled "children's aspirin" contain 81 mg acetylsalicylic acid and not acetaminophen. But I know what you mean. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
Charlie Wilkes - 27 Jul 2007 00:21 GMT > 3:13 pm, "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote: >> Just some info on it some are not on topic but you can get the hint [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > contact another vet > was it for arthritis? This point should be clarified I think.
Aspirin is a single, specific chemical, acetylsalicylic acid. Tylenol is a different chemical, acetaminophen.
According to veterinary web sites, acetaminophen should never be given to cats, but aspirin can be given to cats subject to important caveats, i.e., low dosage and less-than-daily administration. 1/4 baby aspirin every other day may be a safe dose.
However, if this cat is ill and the vet isn't taking it seriously, certainly it would be good to find one who does.
Charlie
Rhonda - 27 Jul 2007 05:22 GMT >>3:13 pm, "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Charlie Yes, our wonderful vet prescribed a portion of a baby aspirin (1/4 or 1/3 -- I forget) every 3rd day to a cat who had had a small stroke. You have to be careful with aspirin and cats because it takes a few days for it to leave their systems.
For arthritis though, I'm wondering if you've tried glucosimine? We've just started our arthritic cat on that. Our vet suggested that and/or acupuncture.
Rhonda
cindys - 26 Jul 2007 23:21 GMT >> Well, he has been given cat milk since he was a baby and for the last >> 16 years he has had it every morning. I did not give him any today. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Aspirin is deadl for cats, are you crazy? Turn off your computer and > Take your cat to the vet. ---------- ??? My vet prescribed aspirin for my cat to reduce his risk of blood clots due to cardiac hypertrophy. Another vet has suggested aspirin to deal with my cat's arthritis. The recommended dose is 81 mg twice a week. Are you sure you're not thinking of Tylenol or ibuprofen (which would be deadly for a cat)? Best regards, ---Cindy S.
cybercat - 26 Jul 2007 23:28 GMT >> Aspirin is deadl for cats, are you crazy? Turn off your computer and >> Take your cat to the vet. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > sure you're not thinking of Tylenol or ibuprofen (which would be deadly > for a cat)? It is my understanding that you shouldn't give any sort of aspirin or pain reliever for humans to cats. If I am wrong, somebody correct me.
Could be I read that nobody should give their cats aspirin or other pain relievers for humans on their own--but I had never heard of a vet prescribing them either. We're all here to learn.
Matthew - 26 Jul 2007 23:44 GMT >>> Aspirin is deadl for cats, are you crazy? Turn off your computer and >>> Take your cat to the vet. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > relievers for humans on their own--but I had never heard of a vet > prescribing them either. We're all here to learn. You can give them a very limited dosage for short periods of time but you are supposed to be under direct vet supervision It can cause hepatitis, gastric irritation, and respiratory problems
Aspirin can be fatal to cats. Aspirin should NOT be given to cats except under direct supervision by your veterinarian. Side Effects May see lack of appetite, vomiting, or black or bloody stool which may be symptoms of stomach ulcers. May cause kidney damage. Symptoms include lack of appetite, vomiting, or an increase or decrease in water consumption. Less commonly seen are allergic reactions, anemia, or low blood protein levels due to blood loss
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=0&cat=1456&articleid=1379
These symptoms sound very familiar
cybercat - 27 Jul 2007 00:01 GMT > You can give them a very limited dosage for short periods of time but you > are supposed to be under direct vet supervision [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > These symptoms sound very familiar So when vets do prescribe it they need to make sure owners know all of this. Too many people assume that if a little bit is good a lot is even better.
Matthew - 27 Jul 2007 00:08 GMT >> You can give them a very limited dosage for short periods of time but >> you are supposed to be under direct vet supervision [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > this. > Too many people assume that if a little bit is good a lot is even better. Amen sister
cindys - 26 Jul 2007 23:53 GMT >>> Aspirin is deadl for cats, are you crazy? Turn off your computer and >>> Take your cat to the vet. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > relievers for humans on their own--but I had never heard of a vet > prescribing them either. We're all here to learn. -------- I have had several different vets recommend aspirin for several of my cats at various times and for various conditions. I think the problem is that it is very easy to overdose a cat. The recommended dose is 81 mg twice a week (aka low-dose aspirin or baby aspirin). I think the concern is that out of ignorance a person may not realize how much is too much and either give the cat a standard human dose of aspirin which is a 325 mg tablet and/or may dose the cat daily rather than only twice a week and/or may mistakenly give the cat Tylenol (acetaminophen) or Motrin (ibuprofen) rather than aspirin. Both of these are toxic AFAIK. So, yes, I suspect that the warnings you have been reading are about protecting cats from their well-meaning albeit sometimes ignorant humans. But it is not unusual for vets to prescribe aspirin for cats provided the human understands all of the above. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
Cheryl - 26 Jul 2007 23:58 GMT > Could be I read that nobody should give their cats aspirin or > other pain relievers for humans on their own--but I had never > heard of a vet prescribing them either. We're all here to learn. I agree never do it on your own without the vet saying so, just like anything else. That said, when Scarlett was spayed and had complications due to an allergy or whatever it was to her internal sutures, vet prescribed 1/4 low dose aspirin every other day until she stopped walking funny. Since she had a drain in her by then it was only for about a week and a half before she had a huge improvement. The walking funny was my first clue that she had complications; she was in pain.
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cybercat - 27 Jul 2007 00:00 GMT >> Could be I read that nobody should give their cats aspirin or >> other pain relievers for humans on their own--but I had never [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > improvement. The walking funny was my first clue that she had > complications; she was in pain. I see. Thanks, Cheryl.
Matthew - 26 Jul 2007 23:10 GMT > Well, he has been given cat milk since he was a baby and for the last > 16 years he has had it every morning. I did not give him any today. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > his tummy fel better? and is there anything else I could give him > other then aspirin for his arthritis? NEW VET NOW
Q: What about my cat and aspirin? A: Same cautions as above, but with the added warning of time between doses. Cats cannot break down this drug as quickly as dogs (or humans), and thus, the cat can be overdosed with the accumulation of the drug in the body.
Cats are typically dosed at intervals of 48-72 hours.
Q: What about other drugs, like Tylenol® and Advil®? A: In a word, no. Tylenol can be fatal to cats. Neither drug (acetaminophen and ibuprofen, respectively) is routinely used for arthritis.
Human medications are another source of pet poisoning -- either by intentionally giving pets human medications (trying to medicate a sick or injured pet) or by accidental ingestion by an unsupervised pet. Never give your pet a human medication unless under the direct recommendation and supervision of your veterinarian. Common human medications such as Tylenol® can be fatal to a cat.
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=0&cat=1456&articleid=1379 http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/homework/s95551.htm http://www.vetinfo4cats.com/catpain.html
cindys - 26 Jul 2007 23:26 GMT > Other then grass, is there anything else that would help > his tummy fel better? ----- Yes, Pepcid (famotidine). Not to exceed 5 mg per day. Ask your vet. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
MaryL - 27 Jul 2007 00:31 GMT > Well, he has been given cat milk since he was a baby and for the last > 16 years he has had it every morning. I did not give him any today. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > his tummy fel better? and is there anything else I could give him > other then aspirin for his arthritis? Aspirin is toxic to cats! If you are sure that is what your vet prescribed, then it's time to change vets. Immediately.
MaryL
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