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Got the gun - 03 Jul 2007 00:00 GMT uh, WE WAS TALKING ABOUT NICK AND a.sholes IN GENERAL
what you did was trashy, call it what you want sheelagh you betrayed me
*here is email sheelagh sent me just now. I haven't even read it.
EVERY EMAIL YOU SEND ME SHEELAGH FROM HERE OUT IM GOING TO POST ON HERE, YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY! Sorry!
here is the email
woo woo
----- Original Message ----- From: sheelagh woollard To: barry parish Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Barry Replying post
Barry, the words that you are trying to make to make me post on group were said by you, to me. At the time you were indicating that you get to know people, allow them to think that you are their friend, then when they least expect it, BANG, you hit them in the middle of their forehead with it.(31-3-07) You even explained how easy it is to get people to talk about themselves, how you stored that information for a later date & how shocked they feel when you deliver the final blow....
As one of those victims, I now understand just how true those words really were.
You accuse me on group of quoting your email on group????
Is this so different to telling the group that Bookie is a sad skint teacher? The way you have treated both Bookie & I with utter contempt is hardly kind, nice or considerate. You have played us like fools, & each time you do it, you think you can just say, "just kidding", & it will all be forgotten.
Have either of us ever told you that you are a dead beat loser? No, we have never done that, so why would you do it to either of us, I ask you? The difference between us is that I brought my problem to you privately, & you chose to ignore it in your contempt. I would never have dreamed of telling the group anything that you have told me in private, & I never will. Yet, you are asking me to post you about all of this on group? What kind of creep do you think I am? However, that doesn't give you carte Blanche to abuse our friendship time & time again Some friend you are?!!! I trusted you, I liked you & most of all, I"respected you".... You can't buy respect, you have to earn it. If I have any problems with Nancy, I will go to her with them, not you. This email regards you, not her. I was there when you needed a friend, But I see life is different for you. Read what you had to say, & imagine how you would feel if you were me, or Emily. I know exactly where I went wrong, I allowed you to manipulate me., but you can be sure that will not happen again. You are Barry now. That's it.. I can't trust you not to do it again to me. You have had your fun with us. Now go find someone else to cover your arse & stand up for you. I'm too angry to even think about it right now.YOU HURT US BOTH. After calling me a sad no one @ Xmas, pulling Bookie to bits twice by saying she is a frustrated broke teacher, & me even more often, & failing to point out that you were there too, I think I could live without friends like that. I don't notice you telling everyone that you asked us for money? Why would that be? Would it make you look bad? Because people would see you for what you are really like? Barry, you hurt us both & neither of us did anything to deserve this, coming from you especially. Like I said, put yourself in our position- it won't take too long for you to understand how badly you treated us. It's well out of order... However, it is in the past & I for one would rather let it go. I hope you choose to do the same too. It is counter productiver & my own fault for allowing you too.
=================== Don't write me no more sheelagh, Im only going to post it up here, from now on.
MILK IT BARRY MILK IT
Got the gun - 03 Jul 2007 00:24 GMT uh, WE WAS TALKING ABOUT NICK AND a.sholes IN GENERAL and you know it (proof is at the bottom)
don't do that sh.t no more, Im not replying to you no more
HOW DO YOU THINK I FEEL
I don't care what you posted, that's bullshit
I jsut dont' like feeling betrayed
I've shown mercy to 1,000's, one more won't kill me
Im done with this
----- Original Message ----- From: sheelagh woollard To: barry parish Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Barry Replying post
>Barry, the words that you are trying to make to make me post on group were said >by you, to me. At the time you were indicating that you get to know people, allow >them to think that you are their friend, then when they least expect it, BANG, you >hit them in the middle of their forehead with it.(31-3-07) >You even explained how easy it is to get people to talk about themselves, how you >stored that information for a later date & how shocked they feel when you deliver >the final blow....
>As one of those victims, I now understand just how true those words really were.
>You accuse me on group of quoting your email on group????
>Is this so different to telling the group that Bookie is a sad skint teacher? >The way you have treated both Bookie & I with utter contempt is hardly kind, nice >or considerate. You have played us like fools, & each time you do it, you think you >can just say, "just kidding", & it will all be forgotten.
>Have either of us ever told you that you are a dead beat loser? No, we have never >done that, so why would you do it to either of us, I ask you? >The difference between us is that I brought my problem to you privately, & you >chose to ignore it in your contempt. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Barry, you hurt us both & neither of us did anything to deserve this, coming from >you especially. Like I said, put yourself in our position- it won't take too long for you >to understand how badly you treated us. It's well out of order... >However, it is in the past & I for one would rather let it go. I hope you choose to do >the same too. It is counter productiver & my own fault for allowing you too. -- my first post snipped the text, who the heck knows why... but there > is the email from sheelagh just now. --
Sheelagh, I was not aware that you had a problem with me. I won't speak about bookie, to my knowledge, she is still playful as ever and has a good appetite.
rule #1 when we feel "guilty" we seek to justify
see your email above for example of justification you go as far to put a negative twist on how you and bookie feel when you know damn well, it's a lie
you know it is, I don't care! Im having champagne
you just can't write me no more.
If I wanted the group to read what I wrote you, I would have posted it on here.
You should... own up to what you did, be mature, just say, you're right, I wouldn't like nobody posting things I told them in confidence
Im going right now to fetch your second to last email to me, I bet my... that it is you being freindly and nice to me. this will prove what I just said, that you are trying to justify what you did.
be right back
--yep she was nice as usual. no sign of problems. ====
sheelagh woollard to me show details Jun 9
Hi Mate, it doesn't matter which post I go to, there you are ripping Nicks pants over his head LOLS & MORE LOLS:o) If you don't stop, I will feel, the need to allow my fingers to walk where they just shouldn't be.. try watching the concert by pod cast, there have been some really good Bands on today. I'm holding out for Linkin Park personally. I am gutted that I couldn't go with them this year..It's a really good event. Everyone chills, plenty of weed, new friends & a nice bottle under your pillow just in case a smack addict tries robbing you whilst your asleep..... It's the weekend & it's a wonderful day S:o)
===
Have a wonderful day.
Im not angry, but no more emails. you can't be trusted with money or emails.
Got the gun - 03 Jul 2007 00:26 GMT goddamit every f'n thing I go to do today is bullshit fuckingi @#$@#$ %@#$ wgftfqwe5!@#$%njat;bnl hi./bh.l/ sdfhiluo
Johann Gambolputty-de-von-Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-crass-cren-bon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-dongle-dungle-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grander-knotty- - 03 Jul 2007 00:42 GMT > goddamit every f'n thing I go to do today is bullshit fuckingi @#$@#$ > %@#$ wgftfqwe5!@#$%njat;bnl hi./bh.l/ sdfhiluo do your arms flap as you rant? are you foaming at the mouth?
RUN JUPITER RUN HERE COMES THE BROOM!
bookie - 03 Jul 2007 00:48 GMT On 3 Jul, 00:42, Johann Gambolputty-de-von-Ausfern-schplenden- schlitter-crass-cren-bon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-dongle-dungle- burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grander- knotty- <estuspir...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > goddamit every f'n thing I go to do today is bullshit fuckingi @#$@#$ > > %@#$ wgftfqwe5!@#$%njat;bnl hi./bh.l/ sdfhiluo > > do your arms flap as you rant? are you foaming at the mouth? > > RUN JUPITER RUN HERE COMES THE BROOM! I think it's great that people have an outlet of some sort
Got the gun - 03 Jul 2007 01:04 GMT > I think it's great that people have an outlet of some sort I have no where to stuff all this frustration
im not angry with sheelagh, just a teeny bit hurt
I've been trying forever to be her friend, but something told me to be careful what I say. I was sad to feel the way I did, cause I don't have many real friends.
soo, it just makes me sad, cause I don't feel I can tell her what's on my mind (in email) I have to respect what she IS capable of.
Got the gun - 03 Jul 2007 01:09 GMT Driving today, I hit every stop light in lynchburg!
grrrrrr grrrrrr
grrrrrrrr
then, my work got derailed today, it cost me $500 in labor costs.
grrrrrr grrrrrr
Got the gun - 03 Jul 2007 01:12 GMT > > RUN JUPITER RUN HERE COMES THE BROOM! > > I think it's great that people have an outlet of some sort but, I did get a lot done today, I shouldn't be so hard on myself
but see.. time is of the essence now.. grrrr, I have other prepaid commitments to do.
whatever! Im doing my thing if it hairlips the pope
Thanks for listening, you're a great listner!
bookie - 03 Jul 2007 02:05 GMT > > > RUN JUPITER RUN HERE COMES THE BROOM! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks for listening, you're a great listner! i'll be your friend
Got the gun - 03 Jul 2007 03:46 GMT > i'll be your friend That's very generous of you
<30 minutes pass>
yes, let's be friends!
sheelagh - 03 Jul 2007 20:11 GMT > uh, WE WAS TALKING ABOUT NICK AND a.sholes IN GENERAL and you know > it (proof is at the bottom) [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > > - Show quoted text -
> uh, WE WAS TALKING ABOUT NICK AND a.sholes IN GENERAL and you know > it (proof is at the bottom) That is debatable. I don't agree!
> don't do that sh.t no more, I'm not replying to you no more > > HOW DO YOU THINK I FEEL Very embarrassed I would imagine?
I wouldn't know really, because you are the one that is making all the fuss & jumping up and down.
How does it feel to bring a private email & share only half the content to the group, & amazingly & coincidentally, you you ask me how you feel??
How do you think I feel? Oh, I forgot, that isn't the issue here is it
> I don't care what you posted, that's bullshit Actually, Barry, you might not have noticed this bit, but I didn't post anything about this regarding you- you are the one that brought it to group!!
So I notice. It would seem a case of double standards here. It is ok for you to bearing half an email written in your favour, then cry wolf.
> I jsut dont' like feeling betrayed Really? Tell, me what does it feel like, or would you like me to explain it to you?
I didn't dish the dirt here, you did!!
You brought some bits of my email, quoted the tiny snippet that you wanted them to hear, then snipped the rest of it because it is true & you know it is...
> I've shown mercy to 1,000's, one more won't kill me I don't want your forgiveness. Why would you forgive me for telling you the truth?
> Im done with this I very much hope so, however, knowing you, you are bound to make a some song and dance about it all. Remember, you brought this here, not me! There is a third party here. That is why you chose to snip my email. you are relying on the fact that I am far too nice to stoop that low.
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: sheelagh woollard [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Barry, the words that you are trying to make to make me post on group were said >by you, to me. At the time you were indicating that you get to know people, allow >them to think that you are their friend, then when they least expect it, BANG, you >hit them in the middle of their forehead with it.(31-3-07) > >You even explained how easy it is to get people to talk about themselves, how you >stored that information for a later date & how shocked they feel when you deliver >the final blow..
> >As one of those victims, I now understand just how true those words really were. > >You accuse me on group of quoting your email on group???? This is true, as I found to my detriment.
I have been there for you when you needed to talk about some issues, & I have never told anyone what you have said, ever! I never intend to either- However, this doesn't give you reason to think that you can tread all over me simply because I have integrity. In fact, all you have done is shown me that you are worse than I gave you credit for. This is really low!!
> >Is this so different to telling the group that Bookie is a sad skint teacher? > >The way you have treated both Bookie & I with utter contempt is hardly kind, nice >or considerate. You have played us like fools, & each time you do it, you think you >can just say, "just kidding", & it will all be forgotten. As you have done many times in the past. If you wish me to site them, I will.
> >Have either of us ever told you that you are a dead beat loser? No, we have never >done that, so why would you do it to either of us, I ask you? > >The difference between us is that I brought my problem to you privately, & you >chose to ignore it in your contempt. I never said anything about you here, I never posted anything, & I would rather not do this in group @ all. What does this have to do with everyone else Barry? If you refer to all of what I said in the first place, you know in your heart that what I say is true. I also have the email to back it up, so think carefully on this one. Would the 3rd party really thank you for bringing this subject here?
I think not..!!!
Again, you chose to post this here, not me. It is clear for everyone on Usenet to see that you are the one that brought this here.. not me.. You have only to look @Matthews thread, & 2 of your own making, that you are simply accusing me of what you say I did, when you are doing the same thing yourself. Read your own words again.
> >I would never have dreamed of telling the group anything that you have told me in >private, & I never will. Yet, you are asking me to post you about all of this on >group? What kind of creep do you think I am? > >However, that doesn't give you carte Blanche to abuse our friendship time & time >again Some friend you are?!!! I trusted you, I liked you & most of all, I"respected >you".... > >You can't buy respect, you have to earn it. > >If I have any problems with Nancy, I will go to her with them, not you. > >This email regards you, not her. This is also true, if Nancy cares to acknowledge it.
> >I was there when you needed a friend, But I see life is different for you. > >Read what you had to say, & imagine how you would feel if you were me, or Emily. I can quote and site these ones too.
>I know exactly where I went wrong, I allowed you to manipulate me., but you can be >sure that will not happen again. You are Barry now. That's it.. > >I can't trust you not to do it again to me. You have had your fun with us. Now go >find someone else to cover your arse & stand up for you. I'm too angry to even think >about it right now.YOU HURT US BOTH. Or so I thought.
You have also just confirmed how prophetic my words were, By reading your own post right here. How is this for accusing someone of something that you are doing yourself?
I can only speak for myself. If Bookie wishes to mingle with you, it is her decision to make, not mine. she is perfectly capable of handling you herself.
> >After calling me a sad no one @ Xmas, pulling Bookie to bits twice by saying she >is a frustrated broke teacher, & me even more often, & failing to point out that you >were there too, I think I could live without friends like that. I don't notice you telling >everyone that you asked us for money? Everyone would see that though, had you not chosen to snip my email to conveniently make you look good. You did ask me for money on more than one occasion, (by us, I mean myself and my family)& I can prove that too if you wish me to? Oh, yes, there is no need really, is there? You have the *Whole* email already, don't you?
> >Why would that be? Would it make you look bad? > >Because people would see you for what you are really like? > >Barry, you hurt us both & neither of us did anything to deserve this, coming from >you especially. Like I said, put yourself in our position- it won't take too long for you >to understand how badly you treated us. It's well out of order... I stand by my statement, because it is true. you spent most of may & all of June completely ignoring me, other than to make derogatory comments about us.
> >However, it is in the past & I for one would rather let it go. I hope you choose to do >the same too. It is counterproductive & my own fault for allowing you too. This is still how I would prefer to leave it. If you choose to continue, you will only dig yourself even deeper & find yourself talking to, yourself. I will not lower myself to your standards "all done in the best possible taste by you, of course"
I was stupid to allow you to use me as a sounding post, lending an ear & letting you away with the rotten things that you did say. I have learnt my lesson the hard way with you. I was stupid enough to stand up for you, when really I should have left you to it alone.
NO ONE on this group is interested in who said what to who. This shouldn't be here @ all...
> -- > my first post snipped the text, who the heck knows why... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I won't speak about bookie, to my knowledge, she is still playful as > ever and has a good appetite. I didn't, until you decided to ask why other people were bothering to respond to both myself & Bookie. What does that have to do with you?
> rule #1 when we feel "guilty" we seek to justify Is this so?
As I don't feel guilty at all, I will have to take your word for that one. I have no reason to feel guilty @ all. You caused this fuss, not me. I would have happily kept this out of group, but you chose to justify flaming me by only offering half the facts, & pointing out your own perspective of a conclusion. What are you looking for,..people to join in? I certainly wouldn't if it had nothing to do with me.
> see your email above for example of justification > you go as far to put a negative twist on how you and bookie feel > when you know damn well, it's a lie I spoke no lie at all. However, I can see that Bookie is old enough to handle her own problems & does on a regular basis if she feels she has the right or passionately about something.
> you know it is, No, I don't know it.
>I don't care! Im having champagne I know that you don't care. You have made it abundantly clear that the only thing that is important to you, is you & what you want ..
> you just can't write me no more. You need not fear on that one. I would rather avoid you completely if I could, for ever!!
> If I wanted the group to read what I wrote you, I would have posted it > on here. Well, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but that is exactly what &you have just done* to me!!!!!!. I never considered the idea, which is perfectly clearly stated in the "private email* I sent...to you & you decide to do in part only!!
> You should... own up to what you did, be mature, just say, you're > right, I wouldn't like nobody posting things I told them in confidence Yet, you are the very person that did exactly that?????? When? If I had something to apologies for, I would. In this instance, I don't!
> Im going right now to fetch your second to last email to me, I bet > my... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > === I believe we were talking about my sons first trip to Download that weekend, & I was being sarcastic about what they might find when they got there.
Yes, I was being "sheelagh". Sheelagh doesn't look for fights.
Sheelagh had been emailing you for nearly 2 months, & each time I did, you either ignored them, or sent the entire message back to me again. This of course is the act of a friend, is it? What you say, & what you do are two separate things.
> Have a wonderful day. Somehow, your words do not ring true
> I'm not angry, but no more emails. you can't be trusted with money or You have no worries on that score. You will never be on any of my contact lists anymore. As for being trusted with money or friends, I think that you will find that all you have done in this post, is confirm that you wanted lots of attention, took over 3 separate posts & then proceeded to show everyone how terrible I was for printing your private emails.... Right?!!!
I don't see any printed email content here other than my own. I did not do that to you @ all. In fact it is quite the reverse, you have done it to me, & then you have the Gaul to ask me to say sorry? forget it!
I'm not sorry for anything. *You made me look a fool* by printing selective parts of the email you quote here. Had you printed off the whole email so that everyone could judge this on it's merits, I might have some pity for you. However, you thought you would just snip what you wanted everyone to read, & missed out the parts that prove that I can site, quote & revert back to should the need arise..
As for trusting me with money. Well, that really is the laugh of the decade. You have asked me for money,( by your own admission by telling the group- I had no intention of telling them you had), but then again, no one would have known that bit, had you not decided to relate that *bit* of the story, would they? --------------------- The bottom line is that you chose to post this in part only. If everyone had the chance to read the whole email, they would be able to decide for themselves..But you didn't, you only quoted half the email, leaving out the dates, instances subjects too. How can anyone form an opinion with only half the facts? They can't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now leave me in peace please, because that is what I hope you will do, same as I will you.
'I feel a swelling love in my bowels'?! ROTFLMAO - 03 Jul 2007 21:37 GMT > > uh, WE WAS TALKING ABOUT NICK AND a.sholes IN GENERAL and you know > > it (proof is at the bottom) [quoted text clipped - 411 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I warned you about this manipulative retard Barry, didn't I? You can hate the messenger, but you can't ignore the message. Avoid that lying scumbag redneck at all costs. Ask Nancy.
Here endeth the lesson.
Got the gun - 03 Jul 2007 21:58 GMT On Jul 3, 4:37 pm, 'I feel a swelling love in my bowels'?! ROTFLMAO <estuspir...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here endeth the lesson. uh, she posted my personal email to her.
Ive been betrayed a.shole! stfu mind your own business
that swelling in your bowels is the 3 Egg McMuffins you wolfed down this morning. braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!!
Got the gun - 04 Jul 2007 00:25 GMT On Jul 3, 4:37 pm, 'I feel a swelling love in my bowels'?! ROTFLMAO <estuspir...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > uh, WE WAS TALKING ABOUT NICK AND a.sholes IN GENERAL and you know > > > it (proof is at the bottom) [quoted text clipped - 417 lines] > > Here endeth the lesson. is goin cost you tubby, in slices of fat from your back
and ankles
I can't figure how these movie producers think they are scaring the public with this boo stuff
keep it up and I might turn a few of my doctor friends onto your garbage, see what they think an intervention may be possible yet, I think they have a gown to fit you
'I feel a swelling love in my bowels'?! ROTFLMAO - 04 Jul 2007 00:51 GMT > is goin cost you tubby, in slices of fat from your back > > and ankles Hmmm...."Got the gun", do you? And now threatening violence? Comcast should be interested in this.
OOPS! Too late to delete the post, Franklin -- already got the full headers. Buh bye, dickhead.
cookie - 04 Jul 2007 01:47 GMT On Jul 3, 7:51 pm, 'I feel a swelling love in my bowels'?! ROTFLMAO <estuspir...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > is goin cost you tubby, in slices of fat from your back > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > headers. > Buh bye, dickhead. repost!
nooo silly, in it's context, the hospitol is where you will lose weight. from your back and ankles. cause you can't sit and eat a 12 pack of moon pies, a 6 pack of cokes, and bacon....in the hospitol. wtf are you talking about threat?
btw, did you get the song I sent you last night?
cookie - 04 Jul 2007 01:45 GMT > On Jul 3, 4:37 pm, 'I feel a swelling love in my bowels'?! ROTFLMAO > [quoted text clipped - 433 lines] > an intervention may be possible yet, I think they have a gown to fit > you nooo silly, in it's context, the hospitol is where you will lose weight. from your back and ankles. cause you can't sit and eat a 12 pack of moon pies, a 6 pack of cokes, and bacon....in the hospitol. wtf are you talking about threat?
btw, did you get the song I sent you last night?
Charlie Wilkes - 03 Jul 2007 22:09 GMT [snip]
Good grief. I've witnessed some boneheaded melodramas in rpchb, but this one takes the cake.
Just out of curiosity, who went first with posting material from emails? My impression is that Barry started this thread as a means of retaliation because you quoted something he wrote you in an email, i.e.:
"I be friendly to people, then I get all I need to know out of them, then Wham, I hit them with it when they least expect it, & they don't know what hits them"
(Message-ID: <1183315621.021483.84430@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>)
Is this taken from a email that Barry sent you, Sheelagh?
Charlie
P.S. If you are sending money to people you meet on Usenet, I want my share.
bookie - 04 Jul 2007 02:58 GMT On 3 Jul, 22:09, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> wrote:
> [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > P.S. If you are sending money to people you meet on Usenet, I want my > share. for what it's worth I couldn't care less who knows I am a skint teacher, i used to tell the kids I taught how skint I was, regularly made a joke about it, hoping to put them off even thinking about becoming teachers and instead direct them to much more satisfying careers such as road sweeper, bin man, abbatoir worker, etc. teachers in this country are not paid what they are worth and often not even enough to live on which is one of the reasons I am getting out of it, no shame in saying that is there?
also 'sad' hmmm...well i suppose that is one alternative term for clinical depression, but that is not what this group os about is it, hence I don't talk about that as is it just not interesting or relevant to this group. I am certainly not ashamed of it though, far from it, it is a great excuse to be a miserable whinging old cow anytime i like.
honestly i couldn't care less what people say about me, if it true then i have probably told everyoneabout it and if it is not then i do not worry about it. if someone nthe other side of the planet, someone i will never meet, chooses to judge me based solely on what some cretin (who i will also never meet) says about me then i could not give a sh.t about their opinion anyway.
simple really, anyway i must get some sleep , it is the first day of henley tomorrow and i am very excited about it. lot sof fit men wandering about it tight lycra. no cats unfortunately. bookie
Charlie Wilkes - 04 Jul 2007 03:59 GMT > On 3 Jul, 22:09, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > one of the reasons I am getting out of it, no shame in saying that is > there? No, but why are you offering these observations in response to my post asking whether Barry or Sheelagh was the first to post material from private emails?
> also 'sad' hmmm...well i suppose that is one alternative term for > clinical depression, but that is not what this group os about is it, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > henley tomorrow and i am very excited about it. lot sof fit men > wandering about it tight lycra. no cats unfortunately. bookie I looked at the web page. Are you going to participate?
Charlie
bookie - 04 Jul 2007 18:13 GMT On 4 Jul, 03:59, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> wrote:
> > On 3 Jul, 22:09, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > - Show quoted text - sorry i meant to reply to the one further up, much earlier but, posted my reply to this one instead, thats the result of posting messages at 3am i suppose, when you are half asleep. i think it was in reponse to sheelaghs post above to barry berating him about tellign everyone i am 'sad skint teacher' which is odd cos i think i was the one who told everyone i am a 'sad skint teacher' and proud of it too!!!!
what web page?
Charlie Wilkes - 04 Jul 2007 20:13 GMT > sorry i meant to reply to the one further up, much earlier but, posted > my reply to this one instead, thats the result of posting messages at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > what web page? The official Henley web site
http://www.hrr.co.uk/
with a description of the events, pictures of the trophies, ads for T shirts. Are you going to participate in any of the events?
Charlie
bookie - 05 Jul 2007 20:08 GMT > > sorry i meant to reply to the one further up, much earlier but, posted > > my reply to this one instead, thats the result of posting messages at [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Charlie not this year, haev done inthe past, womens 4x (quad sculls) and also inthe womens 1x (singles), just nto been focussed enough this year or had a coach to look after me so just a spectator this year. Weather is awful this year, raining really hard and the wind is gettign up too. because of all this rainful in june and in recent days the river is running really high and fast and as the races run against the flow if the water the times are rather slow. I would much rather be in a marquee or a grandstand watching the races this year anyway, competing is very stressfull and I am not up for all that stress right now bookie
solo - 06 Jul 2007 00:38 GMT > not this year, haev done inthe past, womens 4x (quad sculls) and also > inthe womens 1x (singles), just nto been focussed enough this year or [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > now > bookie oh i see, you're rowing your boat, sending this messages through the cell phone. you're so talented.
keeheehee
bookie - 07 Jul 2007 14:21 GMT > > not this year, haev done inthe past, womens 4x (quad sculls) and also > > inthe womens 1x (singles), just nto been focussed enough this year or [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > keeheehee er no, i was on the bank watching the racing and getting sunburnt (quite surprising considerign the shite weather we have been having over here) then came home to log on and check which of your many enlightened and inspring thoughts you had decided to share with us today. racing still going on today and tomorrow, can't be bothered to go today as the crowds onthe bank as always huge and heaving and usually drunk too. Tomorrow will be quieter so will go then and watch the finals whilst drinking Pimms and lemonade, with the obligatory break in the middle of the afternoon for tea (with sandwiches, scones and cakes). the english summer, you can't beat it
only downside is i cant' take my cats into the enclosures by the riverside, they only allow guide dogs in. A friend tried to take her pet rabbit in with her, she takes him everywhere on a harness and he is very docile, and they kicked up a right fuss and said she was not allowed to take 'livestock' in with her, can you believe it? there is a very good seafood restaurant in the main enclosure which i reckon both jessie and terri would love to visit. Thing is there is a strict dress code (men must wear blazer and tie or cravat, women must wear a skirt which comes below the knee, formal shoes, and preferably a hat), and I don't fancy my chances of getting either of my girls into a dress even if this would increase their chances. I would love to see my girls reaction at watchign silly humans rowing past on the river, what woudl they make of it all?
bookie
solo - 07 Jul 2007 15:44 GMT > I would love to see > my girls reaction at watchign silly humans rowing past on the river, > what woudl they make of it all? > > bookie That's real thoughtful of you
Just put your cat on a leash, tell them it's a dog?
If a cat was smart enough to walk around and be sociable in places like that, nobody would mind, we both know they would be hanging from some tent roof, or wrapped around something maarrrrrrrrrrooooowing and terrorizing.
ah! signs of life
bookie - 08 Jul 2007 02:39 GMT > > I would love to see > > my girls reaction at watchign silly humans rowing past on the river, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > ah! signs of life i suspect that jessie would just find a deckchair in the sunshine and curl up and go to sleep, she is at all phased by people. terri would be a very different matter though, she would probably be hiding under the deckchairs, eyes as wide as saucers, then fall asleep for the rest of the afternoon. certainly my old cat jasper woudl have taken the whole thing in his stride
never going to happen but it is a nice mental picture for me, and I certainly would not put either of them on a lead, just carry them in , take them to the best deckchair inthe sunniest spot and place them there.
sheelagh - 08 Jul 2007 16:31 GMT > > > I would love to see > > > my girls reaction at watchign silly humans rowing past on the river, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Wouldn't it make some eye's pop if you were to allow them to accompany you?
There should be a members & pet enclosure. After all, if Blind dogs are allowed to accompany someone who is blind (lets face it, they are not going to see that much of the race, are they?) And before anyone gets on their high horse over the blind remark, bit might be worth knowing that I am only partially sighted myself. Why shouldn't other animals be allowed entrance?
It would be nice for people to be allowed to let their pets accompany them, as long as they didn't distract from the races, & they were appropriately behaved, I see no reason why they should be banned.
I got a text from an ex customer the other day to say that she was having a wonderful week at the seaside walking her cat along the prom (sea front.), on his harness. Apparently he enjoyed every moment of it!
She couldn't bare the thought of leaving him in a cattery, so she took him with her. What a nice thing to do for both herself & also the cat's benefit..A good time was had by all :o)
Sheelagh
bookie - 08 Jul 2007 20:14 GMT > > > > I would love to see > > > > my girls reaction at watchign silly humans rowing past on the river, [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > - Show quoted text - i coudl never leave my cat in a cattery, when i have been away and so ahve my housemates i have arranged for someone to stay at our house to look after them. the last time it was when we had jasper who was a really chilled out cat (used to sit curled up on the front seat of my car during trips to the evts, nothing worried him) and he woudl probably have been perfectly ok with a trip to the seaside.
alot of cats are skittish when taken out of their territory but jasper was not like, more concerned about being separated from me than anything else, he woudl have loved going to henely this week and takne it all in his stride.
there is a blind chap actually who is always at henley most years i have been, he is called mark pollock, rows for trinity college dublin, or at least he did. he lost his sight when he was student afte he learnt to row, but since rowing is more about feel than anything (and you can leave steering and looking where you are going up to the cox or someone else) he continued rowing and has doen very well it seems, raced at henley and all that. In previous years he has had a dog, but today he just had his stick and a mate to lead him about, but i suspect that they were probably as drunk as the other so it was really a case of 'the blind drunk leading the blind' if you will excuse the pun.
ok he can't see the racing itself but there are tannoys giving really good commentary of the races as they go on, and i suspect that 90% of the people who go to henley dont actually bother to watch any rowing at all but go for the social side of things, the pimms, the banter etc.
actually my friend who has a siamese actually has taken her cat on holiday with her to the french alps, taken her out on walks etc (i have the photos somewhere to prove it!). obviously they have a pet passport for her and take her with them in the car and on the ferry, and the family own their own chalet down in Alpe d'Huez so bringing the cat or their dog with them in no issue as it is their second home and they tend to spend a lot of time in winter there. i suppose as she has started the cat off early with this trip and the general process she has got used to it and doesn't get bothered by it too much. It certainly solves the problem if putting her in a cattery for weeks on end
bookie
Mr Tanaka - 08 Jul 2007 20:06 GMT > i suspect that jessie would just find a deckchair in the sunshine and yeah, you know your cat, I can't even get my hands on Lucy if she don't want me to, she will just go behind the bed or something. Much less sport her in public. Im game though! It should come to that, people sporting cats on jewel studded collars and leashes.
> never going to happen but it is a nice mental picture for me, and I > certainly would not put either of them on a lead, just carry them in , > take them to the best deckchair inthe sunniest spot and place them > there. You'd just have to show them how civil one can be. Cat's are social yes, and I've met cats who wouldn't have a bit of problem roaming from pant leg to pant leg, having a big time!
Curling up is more my fancy though. Everytime a cat climbs on me when Im just sitting in the recliner, they won't let me up, I am forced to lay back. It's either that or toss a purrring kitten. I wouldn't do that.
sheelagh - 04 Jul 2007 22:50 GMT > On 4 Jul, 03:59, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Bookie, Croquet, Merely Croquet. Dash it all, we can't have this sort of thing, I mean, "Really"..!!
sheelagh - 04 Jul 2007 17:21 GMT > On 3 Jul, 22:09, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > - Show quoted text -
> honestly i couldn't care less what people say about me, if it true > then i have probably told everyoneabout it and if it is not then i do > not worry about it. if someone nthe other side of the planet, someone > i will never meet, chooses to judge me based solely on what some > cretin (who i will also never meet) says about me then i could not > give a sh.t about their opinion anyway. Hmmm. your right, this is the polocy that I should have adopted, but I lost my temper unfortunately.
I think that I would be right in saying that we all judge people by first impressions? I am not trying to say that it is right to do this, merely that this is the way of mankind. I went on that impression for a long time, standing up for, supporting & loyal in my friendship too. Unfortunately it is a bit like looking @ the world through rose tinged glasses, & now that the shinny wrapper has come off so to speak, I reacted, all be it in haste and bad temper. I don't care anymore either. I know the truth & this should be good enough for me.
> simple really, anyway i must get some sleep , it is the first day of > Henley tomorrow and i am very excited about it. lots of fit men > wandering about it tight Lycra. no cats unfortunately. Don't you find that Henley and wimbledon are clashing this year? Nice about the fit men in shiny Lycra, but shame about the lack of cats though... S.
bookie - 04 Jul 2007 18:16 GMT > > On 3 Jul, 22:09, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > > - Show quoted text - they always clash, it can be a pain, but in the boat tents at henley they have rest rooms and a small cafeteria for the competitors where they usually have a tv inthe corner so you can easily go in and catch some of the tennis in between races (just need particular passes to get in, not hard really) . weather not great today out there, lots of rain, quite torrential at points, but the good thing about rowing is that rain never stops play unlike tennis and cricket. anyway rowing men much fitter than tennis players anyday
cookie - 04 Jul 2007 19:12 GMT > they always clash, it can be a pain, but in the boat tents at henley > they have rest rooms and a small cafeteria for the competitors where [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > unlike tennis and cricket. > anyway rowing men much fitter than tennis players anyday- Hide quoted text - are you competing? or just something you watch, and lots of stuff to do
is there any link showing past same events?
if you're rowing, think about ... ... nothing.
I figure the one time you told about ochanneling anger, was jsut that, that one time.
me? I like setting rythms... I might pull 6 and rest on 7, (the 7th is where I would not actually pull, but rest my hands on the moving handle.
Charlie Wilkes - 04 Jul 2007 20:34 GMT > anyway rowing men much fitter than tennis players anyday But are they fit to consume 17,000 calories in less than 15 minutes?
You will have to come to America to find the _really_ fit men...
http://tinyurl.com/276v3p
Charlie
sheelagh - 04 Jul 2007 23:00 GMT > > > On 3 Jul, 22:09, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > > - Show quoted text -
> weather not great today out there, lots of rain, quite torrential at > points, but the good thing about rowing is that rain never stops play > unlike tennis and cricket. I think we can safely say that I'm not the only one here that spouts steam.
Very True, indeed. Yes,It's a bloody nuisance @ times, especially if you watch play live @ Wimbledon, or Lords for that matter.
> anyway rowing men much fitter than tennis players any day <ROARING with LAUGHTER> Lotza Lols ;o) Sheelagh
sheelagh - 04 Jul 2007 16:48 GMT On 3 Jul, 22:09, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> wrote:
> [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > P.S. If you are sending money to people you meet on Usenet, I want my > share. On 3 Jul, 22:09, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> wrote:
> [snip] > > Good grief. I've witnessed some boneheaded melodramas in rpchb, but this > one takes the cake. I agree to my shame.
> Just out of curiosity, who went first with posting material from emails? > My impression is that Barry started this thread as a means of retaliation
> because you quoted something he wrote you in an email, i.e.: You are correct. I did quote Barry.
I was angry with him for making a mountain out of a mole hill. He has done this to me on several occasions, but I have Ignored it. This particular time, I didn't. He was asking you why you would bother replying to our posts(Bookie & myself), & yes, I lost my temper wirth him.
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: sheelagh woollard > To: barry parish > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:42 PM > Subject: Barry Replying post
> >Barry, the words that you are trying to make to make me post on group were said >by you, to me. At the time you were indicating that you get to know people, allow >them to think that you are their friend, then when they least expect it, BANG, you >hit them in the middle of their forehead with it.(31-3-07) > >You even explained how easy it is to get people to talk about themselves, how you >stored that information for a later date & how shocked they feel when you deliver >the final blow.. > >As one of those victims, I now understand just how true those words really were. > >You accuse me on group of quoting your email on group???? You are also correct about the retaliation. The difference between us is that I tried to do it privately, but he decided he wanted the net to read it ;but only selectively read of course. Any citations involving his part were deleted before he posted my Private email to him. He is counting on the fact that my integrity will stop me from posting the rest of that email that he chose to partially show. He is correct, too. I wouldn't show any more of that email unless I had the 3rd party's direct permission to do so.
I emailed him privately after quoting him, & all he printed for you all to see was the introduction to it. He decided to keep the citations to himself as well as what he had to say himself.
> "I be friendly to people, then I get all I need to know out of them, > then Wham, I hit them with it when they least expect it, & they don't > know what hits them" > > (Message-ID: <1183315621.021483.84...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>) This was a very small part of what was said.
> Is this taken from a email that Barry sent you, Sheelagh? Yes Carlie. This makes me just as much to blame as Barry, if not more. I should have just been done and shown you the whole email. But I can''t. I've cooled down & I would hurt a 3rd person by doing so. As that is something that I am not prepared to do because they really don't deserve it, I will assume the blame until Barry See's fit to examine his conscience.
>EVERY EMAIL YOU SEND ME SHEELAGH FROM HERE OUT IM GOING TO >POST ON >HERE, YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY! Sorry! The Only Apology I have to offer is to the group, not Barry!!
There will be no other apology forthcoming for Barry though.
Until the day he publishes the whole email, I don't see why I should, because it was very truthful & direct not to mention private. If he feels that his privacy is infringed, then he should think about his own actions too. If I thought for one moment he would post every email in it's entirety, then I would email him again...
If Barry would do as he quoted (ie: print my words in their entirety), then I might reconsider.
What annoyed me was there was a hell of a lot of other things said, but they are not on display for you to see, because Barry chose to be less than economical with the truth.
> Charlie > > P.S. If you are sending money to people you meet on Usenet, I want my > share. LOL, as if poor white trash (or was it trailer trash?) like me has money?
PPPS: What kind of fool do you take me for? Also worth mentioning that I didn't say he asked me for money, Barry chose to reveal that one himself.
This has blown out of proportion & I would rather not have to come back to this post, unless it is to read all of my email & quotes in their entirety.
I was wrong to make the first remark. However, that still doesn't give B any right to mock, or @ worst be less than truthful about quoting me either.
cookie - 04 Jul 2007 17:43 GMT help somebody, why does people scared to be wrong
I LOVE BEING WRONG AND APOLOGIZING
who among us has never offended in word or deed! if you have not, then you are perfect.
but I know you ain't.
whyever sheelagh seek to minimize her offense and further hurt me by saying she won't apologize
it's ok sheelagh, I told you I forgive you without your validation, I don't need seek or want anything from you. never did AND 100% OF MY REPLIES TO YOUR EMAILS WAS CONGENIAL AND HOSPITABLE!
Is this how yall do it over there, stick it to someone then just f.ck em?
cookie - 04 Jul 2007 17:45 GMT > On 3 Jul, 22:09, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > However, that still doesn't give B any right to mock, or @ worst be > less than truthful about quoting me either. no, two wrongs don't make a right
BUT WHY CAN'T I HAVE AN APOLOGY! LMAO
keep your own dried up sorry sorry barry, i was just mad cause you blew me off in emails...
well.. STOP REPLYING INSIDE OF A 20 PAGE EMAIL...
ALWAYS START WITH A CLEAN SHEET OF PAPER OR TOP POST FOR MY LIESURE
YOU ARE TOTALILY OFF THE HOOK
and you didn't have to swallow any pride but I be damned if you will get another reply from me
enjoy your little nasty stand
GODDAMIT CAN'T SOMEBODY f.ck UP AND SAY SORRY
HELL NO EVERYBODY IS SOME BAIN BITCHES
Charlie Wilkes - 04 Jul 2007 19:54 GMT > You are also correct about the retaliation. The difference between us is > that I tried to do it privately, What do you mean? You've admitted you went first on posting material from private email. It's like chemical weapons... whoever uses them first, even in a limited strike, loses their standing to complain about retaliation in kind.
The difference, of course, is that nobody will die a horrible death because you and Barry choose to air your private correspondence. That's the thing about Usenet, Sheelagh... the fighting is dirty because the stakes are so low.
Charlie
solo - 07 Jul 2007 16:16 GMT On Jul 4, 6:54 pm, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> wrote:
> What do you mean? You've admitted you went first on posting material > from private email. It's like chemical weapons... whoever uses them > first, even in a limited strike, loses their standing to complain about > retaliation in kind. it's de smoke man, de chics can't hold dey smoke
Charlie Wilkes - 07 Jul 2007 21:04 GMT > On Jul 4, 6:54 pm, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > it's de smoke man, de chics can't hold dey smoke Is Sheelagh a pothead???
Charlie
solo - 07 Jul 2007 21:22 GMT On Jul 7, 8:04 pm, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> wrote:
> Is Sheelagh a pothead??? > > Charlie anything is possible
no, she's head smart, but not necessarily educated smart, although she's by no means green
she's an exhibitionist of sorts
go find someone else to cover your arse & stand up for you - 07 Jul 2007 21:44 GMT > she's an exhibitionist of sorts ...says the king of "pay attention to me"
sheelagh - 08 Jul 2007 00:06 GMT On 7 Jul, 21:04, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 4, 6:54 pm, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Charlie No, Sheelagh is not a pot head Charlie..
I have tried it a many times as a teenager & found that all it made me feel was tiered & hungry.
I didn't see the point of paying to feel like that.
I'm broad minded & one of my sons does smoke it, but I don't encourage it. (especially when he asks me to make cakes with it!!) It is a waste of money & I don't have that money or time to waste on things like.
solo - 08 Jul 2007 00:58 GMT > On 7 Jul, 21:04, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > It is a waste of money & I don't have that money or time to waste on > things like. and to top it off, you sent me the first email
so you come on my domain, extract something from me under the guise of friend, take it back to public, place in a malicious context, turn around, wipe the corners of your mouth about it and you are the victim... all just so you could try out your new grammar checker!
I love it
gimmie 5
go find someone else to cover your arse & stand up for you - 08 Jul 2007 01:59 GMT > waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah may I suggest http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?id=prod1530691&CATID=301839&skuid=sku 1530680&V=G&ec=frgl_629189
sheelagh - 07 Jul 2007 18:24 GMT On 4 Jul, 19:54, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> wrote:
> > You are also correct about the retaliation. The difference between us is > > that I tried to do it privately, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Charlie I am not complaining. I merely indicated that there was far more than meets the eye from a casual onlooker.
I am asking for him to refrain from continuing a private dispute on Usenet.
This, is not the place & as you point out, the stakes are "So Low"...
To be frank Charlie, I'm done with this. I have no intention of coming back on this one, however much I am provoked. It is so petty that it doesn't deserve consideration. And, my apologies to the group. This was never intended @ all on my behalf. I admit initial culpability, & accept I was wrong.
What I won't accept are the unessacary remarks that have rolled down the hill since then- all the emails & provocation are lost on me now. Let him call me what he will. People who know me better, will also know that I would never post emails full of private content for anyone to laugh or argue over.. My Apologies to the group. Sheelagh
solo - 07 Jul 2007 20:07 GMT > I would never post emails full of private content for anyone > to laugh or argue over.. > My Apologies to the group. > Sheelagh oh!
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