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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / August 2007Advice Please: Stray Kitten
I found a stray kitten near my house. I couldn't leave it outside.(A half hour after I took the kitten in a guy across the street who likes to bring his Pitbull outside to roam without a lease early in the morning came out). The Kitten, which is about as big as my hand, was unsteady and had a lot of mucus in the sinus/eye area. He/she didn't run when I walked past, and in fact followed me meowing the 100 feet or so to my house. It was shivering and sometimes sneezing and coughing.(I hope it's nothing major). Nevertheless, I put it in a box with some milk, but it did touch the milk and went to sleep). I posted a "Found Kitten" sign near where I first saw it. Does anyone have any other ideas before I have to call the ASPCA? Thanks a lot. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. >I found a stray kitten near my house. I couldn't leave it outside.(A > half hour after I took the kitten in a guy across the street who likes [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Yes, you need to get the kitten to a vet -- and it needs to be done immediately (*do not wait* until tomorrow). Kittens are fragile, and the symptoms you described can be critical. This isn't something you can safely deal with simply by advice from a newsgroup. Also: THANK YOU for taking care of this little baby. MaryL On 28 May, 12:32, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > >I found a stray kitten near my house. I couldn't leave it outside.(A > > half hour after I took the kitten in a guy across the street who likes [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Excellent advice Mary! Is there any possibility that the OP can call the human society & ask for help with this situation? If you were in the UK I would have advise you to call either the RSPCA, or the Cat Protection League, who would tell you to get to them asap, or even come to you to pick up the sick kitty. Do you have anyone in the USA that would respond likewise?( Even a local rescuer?) S;o) PS: Do not hand the kitten over to anyone that you feel might have neglected this poor kitten- It needs to be with someone who will care responsibly with the life of that kitten, & again, thank you for taking the time to bother > I found a stray kitten near my house. I couldn't leave it outside.(A > half hour after I took the kitten in a guy across the street who likes [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. I second what MaryL says.. please take the kitten to a vet, ASAP! Mention to the vet you found her as a stray, and maybe* they'll know of a rescue you can use to give you a break on the costs, although, I would not hold my breath for that, it never hurts to ask. The kitten sounds like she has conjunctivitis and/or needs an antibiotic. Feed her as much as she will eat, and drink as she needs to build up her strength, and keep her warm. Bless you for doing the right thing and taking her in. ML > I second what MaryL says.. please take the kitten to a vet, ASAP! Mention > to the vet you found her as a stray, Definitely. I took my cat to a vet after finding her in circumstances not dissimilar to this. He diagnosed her with a URI (Upper Respiratory Infection) and malnutritioned. It wasn't expensive at all - the vet even gave me a discount as he was pleased that I was doing something to help out an animal in need. > and maybe* they'll know of a rescue you > can use to give you a break on the costs, although, I would not hold my [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > ML > It was shivering and sometimes sneezing and coughing.(I hope it's > nothing major). Nevertheless, I put it in a box with some milk, but it > did touch the milk and went to sleep). Agree with Bluedove. Also if kitten won't eat or drink, give it some Pedialite in a dropper. You can buy this at any grocery store in the baby food section. It supplies the electrolytes needed to sustain the kitten's life. >> It was shivering and sometimes sneezing and coughing.(I hope >> it's nothing major). Nevertheless, I put it in a box with some [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > store in the baby food section. It supplies the electrolytes > needed to sustain the kitten's life. Pedialite is good, but KMR (kitten milk replacement) is even better. It can be picked up at a pet supply store like PetCo or PetSmart. Give it the same way, with a dropper. Be sure to stimulate the poo and pee with a wet cotton ball though (depending on how young it is). If it doesn't seem to be "going" it may need some help. I see you've gotten some good advice and the reading that you were directed to would tell you all this. Good luck and God bless.  SignatureCheryl > >> It was shivering and sometimes sneezing and coughing.(I hope > >> it's nothing major). Nevertheless, I put it in a box with some [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > Cheryl Thanks everyone for all the advice. Though it is no longer shivering and appears to be breathing better it hasn't touched the food and water, and time is getting short. The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that should have been done today. There will be no one here to take care of it when I leave. So I'll have to find some sort of shelter because I'd hate to have to put it back out in the street.(And not that I'm out to spend major money on the kitten, the veterinarians close by were closed). Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that > should have been done today. Please drop these folks an email. http://maxshouse.com/about_us.htm > > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving > > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://maxshouse.com/about_us.htm Things are not looking good for this kitten. It refuses to eat or drink and this morning it's eyes were "glued" shut.(I tried to feed the kitten some Pedialyte I picked up to no avail). It's still pretty active, and has been attempting to get out of the box I put it in. But I've not been given any satisfacory answer by any of the veterinarians, clinics, ect I've visited and called. I'm about to be forced to put it back outside.(There are many things that I have to do today before I leave for my trip). Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > But I've not been given any satisfacory answer by any of the > veterinarians, clinics, ect I've visited and called. You won't they won't give full details over the phone without an examination > I'm about to be forced to put it back outside.(There are many things > that I have to do today before I leave for my trip). > > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. What? PLEASE call the local animal rescue before you do that at least give the furball a fighting chance. They will come pick it up or at least take it a to a vet and drop him off and tell them the situation at you can't keep an eye on them and for them to call the local shelter > >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving > >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - As amazing as it sounds, I cannot find any shelter that I can take the kitten to. Every response to every call I've made so far consists of referrals to another agency, requests to leave my number, or no answer at all. There is one that is supposed to come by, but they don't know when.(I should be heading into NYC now to pick up bus my tickets. This has gone on too long). Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > As amazing as it sounds, I cannot find any shelter that I can take the > kitten to. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Do you have any friends? If you put that kitten back outside, I would not want to be you. This sh.t comes back on you Darren. *shiver* > >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving > >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Wow... that is ever so sad!! I find it inexplicable that no one is willing to help out, even though it is a bank Holiday. Shocking actually!! S..... >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Things are not looking good for this kitten. Did you even TRY to contact Phil at maxshouse? They are in NYC. What the hell is wrong with you, Darren? > >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving > >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What the hell is wrong with you, Darren? What the hell is wrong with you? I e-mailed yesterday, and received no response whatsoever.(Which has been typical when trying to deal with these agencies that are supposed to care for animals). But perhaps they are on vacation too. I found a guy a few houses away who has cats. I knocked on his door(noticing there where a couple of small kittens about the same size as the one I found playing around on his porch). He said to bring it over. To make a long story short, his brother? net me upon my return and said that he had taken a head count and the kitten was not one of his. He said that it wouldn't be a good idea to take it because it might get the others sick, and he was planning on getting rids of some of his cats anyway.(He then advised me to let it go in the alley). Well, I gave it my best shot. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. >> >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving >> >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Well, I gave it my best shot. a.shole. >> >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving >> >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > get the others sick, and he was planning on getting rids of some of > his cats anyway.(He then advised me to let it go in the alley). F@cking piece of sh@t your neighbor is > Well, I gave it my best shot. > > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Do you have a local vet one with in the vicinity take the kitten in a box with air holes in it. Go to the place and say I can't keep the kitten I am leaving it is a stray the animal control is supposed to pick it up but I will not leave an animal that is in distress outside. Walk out don't look back at least you give the kitten a chance. Till than you have in no way gave it "your best shot" > Do you have a local vet one with in the vicinity take the kitten in a > box with air holes in it. Go to the place and say I can't keep the kitten > I am leaving it is a stray the animal control is supposed to pick it up > but I will not leave an animal that is in distress outside. Walk out > don't look back at least you give the kitten a chance. Till than you > have in no way gave it "your best shot" But DARREN has to go on VACATION, Matthew. Not to worry. It's a troll. There is no kitten. It's the old "loser has nothing better to do than try to upset the soft-hearted cat people" again. It always picks up in the summer. >>>>>> The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving >>>>>> for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > F@cking piece of sh@t your neighbor is Thanks for the warning... we didn't know you lived there. :-D >> Well, I gave it my best shot. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > back at least you give the kitten a chance. Till than you have in no way > gave it "your best shot" > his cats anyway.(He then advised me to let it go in the alley). > > Well, I gave it my best shot. > > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. The next time something really terrible happens to you, you will think of the choice you made here. And I will be somewhere laughing my a.s off. There's justice in the ether for people like you. > > >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving > > >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Did you even TRY to contact Phil at maxshouse? They are > > in NYC. Actually, We're in NJ- but I can have someome meet you on the Jersey side of the Goethals Bridge. Email me for details. > > What the hell is wrong with you, Darren? > > What the hell is wrong with you? > > I e-mailed yesterday, and received no response whatsoever I haven't received any emails from you. Where did you send your email? Try again: topcatATmaxshouseDOTcom. I'm cc'ing this to Searcher7@mail.con2.com Phil >>> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving >>> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What the hell is wrong with you, Darren? I emailed Phil on his private email earlier on hopefully he will get it >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. NO! Do not put that poor little kitten outside. You would not only be condemning it to death, you would be condemning it to what could be a *terrible* death. Please take it to a vet and leave it with them for some care, or drive to an animal shelter (don't just call them) and leave it there. But DON'T abandon him outside. MaryL On May 29, 3:07 pm, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > >> > The kitten definitely has to be gone by tomorrow because I'm leaving > >> > for vacation and this has already kept me from doing things that [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > - Show quoted text - If one person had a bead on a shelter/clinic/vet that would take this kitten, it would have been gone a long time ago. I've run into a brick wall with every one I called, and the three I walked to.(No one's recommendation has worked). Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > On May 29, 3:07 pm, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Mary, I think this a.shole is a troll. No decent person would do this. f.ck you, Darren, and your imaginary kitten. "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> < snipped> I can't state whether he is a troll but it is a valid email that he has been posting with since 1999. I did not see any troll activity in his posting I hope he does the right thing >> On May 29, 3:07 pm, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > f.ck you, Darren, and your imaginary kitten. Yes, I suspect the same thing. I responded only because I would rather take a chance on giving a troll some jollies than to think about a kitten in that condition. I'm very skeptical, though -- he has talked almost from the beginning about needing to get this kitten out of his hair so he could take a trip. MaryL Try City Critters. Calling is better than emailing. People don't always check their mail. * Telephone * 212-252-3183 * info@citycritters.org * Regular Mail * City Critters Inc. * P.O. Box 1345 * Canal Street Station * New York NY 10013 >>> On May 29, 3:07 pm, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > >MaryL > Try City Critters. Calling is better than emailing. People don't always check > their mail. [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > - Show quoted text - THANK YOU ;o) Sometimes when many heads & heads work together, Great things "can" happen. Please try it? S. "MaryL" <stancole1 yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > "cybercat" <cyberpurrs yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f3hut5$rgh$1 > aioe.org... [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > MaryL In the real world, most people are in fact not gung ho to care for a stray cat/animal. If everyone cared so much, the stray/feral animals wouldn't be there in the first place. Typically people don't care, and finding shelter for a stray is not easy. Pretending otherwise makes for zealous stone throwing that is counterproductive. This thread is an excellent example. Some posters show their concern without going too far beyond that, others start attacking the guy who has been trying to do something for the animal nobody else in the real world could care less about. A mentor of mine mentioned that, in the wild, sometimes animals eat other animals alive. I knew it, but the context was similar to what when on in this thread. Besides, being eaten alive is what the kitten was facing before the guy picked it up off of the street. I guess the question is whether the original poster did anything at all for the cat. Whether or not you believe he tried to help, would leaving the kitten as fast food for the pit bull have been better in your opinion? Or maybe disturbing us about the problem was his worst sin. I tend to think letting people talk about their problems is a good thing. >I found a stray kitten near my house. I couldn't leave it outside.(A > half hour after I took the kitten in a guy across the street who likes [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Darren, I posted earlier that I was concerned that you might be a troll. I have done some searching since I wrote that, and I see that you have been posting for quite awhile (with no "trollish" behavior). So, I apologize for jumping to conclusions. Now, what about the little kitty? Here is an article that lists a number of shelters and rescue groups in the Staten Island Borough: http://www.silive.com/local/advance/index.ssf?/local/siguide/stories/05pets.html Also, you now have both a moral and a *legal* responsibility to take care of the kitten. New York has a law that makes it a criminal offense to abandon an animal. Here is a link that provides (from the New York City Bar): From http://www.abcny.org/Publications/cruelty.htm In essence, this is what the ordinance says: A person being the owner or possessor, or having charge or custody of an animal, who abandons such animal, or leaves it to die in a street, road or public place, or who allows such animal, if it become disabled, to lie in a public street, road or public place more than three hours after he receives notice that it is left disabled, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than one year, or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars, or by both. >>I found a stray kitten near my house. I couldn't leave it outside.(A >> half hour after I took the kitten in a guy across the street who likes >> to bring his Pitbull outside to roam without a lease early in the >> morning came out). <snip> >> Darren Harris >> Staten Island, New York. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > punishable by imprisonment for not more than one year, or by a fine of > not more than one thousand dollars, or by both. ...Sorry, I inadvertently clicked on the "send" button before I completed my message. Please note that the Animal Care and Control is open until 8:00 p.m. seven days a week. You have posted information about this kitten on a public newsgroup, and it is widely read. You have also apparently discussed the condition of this kitty with several people and have talked about the possibility that you might put it outside and leave it. If your conscience does not bother you enough to avoid that terrible decision, think about the possible legal consequences. Finally...despite the tone of this message, I do THANK YOU for caring enough to rescue the little kitten. Now, please don't undo all the good that you have done by abandoning it. MaryL > Finally...despite the tone of this message, I do THANK YOU for caring > enough to rescue the little kitten. Now, please don't undo all the good > that you have done by abandoning it. Do you really think a decent person would have even considered putting a tiny, sick kitten outside to suffer and die? He could have at the very least called animal control to put it out of its misery. I was hoping it was a troll and that there was no kitten. It is my way of comforting myself at what this kitten is going through right not if it wasn't a troll. Darren is a flaming a.shole. >>I found a stray kitten near my house. I couldn't leave it outside.(A >> half hour after I took the kitten in a guy across the street who likes [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > posting for quite awhile (with no "trollish" behavior). So, I apologize > for jumping to conclusions. He's gone, Mary. On vacation. >>>I found a stray kitten near my house. I couldn't leave it outside.(A >>> half hour after I took the kitten in a guy across the street who likes [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > He's gone, Mary. On vacation. That's what I'm afraid of. My only hope is that he doesn't leave for vacation until tomorrow and will take some action on the phone numbers I posted. It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty like that. MaryL "> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty > like that. Yes. he knows that too. He had alternatives. No friends? No family who care about animals? No vets that take strays? Most do. This is one ugly SOB. > "> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty> like that. > > Yes. he knows that too. He had alternatives. No friends? No > family who care about animals? No vets that take strays? Most > do. This is one ugly SOB. I wanted to mention what an a.shole "cybercat" is. "Cybercat" doesn't know me and obviously has serious psycological problems where profane name calling initiated by dark fantasies is how "cybercat" copes. It's is so easy to throw garbage at someone from behind a keyboard. It obviously is the best way to deal with those problems without getting the ass-whippings. In a simular situation I probably won't bother trying to save another animal. Not because of the all the verbal abuse from "cybercat".(There are jackasses like "cybercat" all over the internet). The reason is the emotional toll. I spent a good deal of time worrying whether or not the kitten survived at the "shelter" during my shortened vacation. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > In a simular situation I probably won't bother trying to save another > animal. Not because of the all the verbal abuse from "cybercat".(There [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. It probably didn't, statistically speaking, if it was a kill shelter. This is kitten season. But I guess that's what shelters are there for. Candace >> In a simular situation I probably won't bother trying to save another >> animal. Not because of the all the verbal abuse from "cybercat".(There >> are jackasses like "cybercat" all over the internet). The reason is >> the emotional toll. I spent a good deal of time worrying whether or >> not the kitten survived at the "shelter" during my shortened vacation. What an incredibly selfish prick this a.shole is. The big problem with how he dealt with the kitten is that he WORRIED about abandoning it. lol >> Darren Harris >> Staten Island, New York. > > It probably didn't, statistically speaking, if it was a kill shelter. > This is kitten season. But I guess that's what shelters are there > for. Yes, in the sense that it is better for a kitten to be humanely euthanized than to suffer and die on the street. >> "> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty> >> like that. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I wanted to mention what an a.shole "cybercat" is. Yes, well, there are a.sholes and then there are a.sholes who do as you did with that kitten. You announced that you would be putting him back on the street, you boneheaded cretin. Nobody but an insensitive prick would have even considered that. I take it that you're angry that I made you think about the fact that you have no friends and no family that give a sh.t about you. > "Cybercat" doesn't know me and obviously has serious psycological > problems where profane name calling initiated by dark fantasies is how > "cybercat" copes. Wow. Thanks for that analysis. Coming from you, it means a lot. Dark fantasies? Like how you said you would be putting the cat back out on the street? "Psycological" problems? You bet. I am one of those sick bitches that gets upset when an arrogant, slimy asswipe like you comes into a cat group and threatens to put a sick, vulnerable kitten out on the street because you have to go on vacation. > It's is so easy to throw garbage at someone from behind a keyboard. It > obviously is the best way to deal with those problems without getting > the ass-whippings. Now this is really funny. You want to give me an "a.s whipping" for my comments? That you had alternatives to putting the cat on the street? New at Usenet, or just a kook? An "a.s whipping," eh? > In a simular situation I probably won't bother trying to save another > animal. Not because of the all the verbal abuse from "cybercat".(There [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Darren Harris Darren, you are an amazingly stupid, short-sighted, arrogant, narcissistic a.shole. Your comments on your return from you "shortened vacation" just reinforce my original opinion. > >> "> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty> > >> like that. [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > narcissistic a.shole. Your comments on your return from you > "shortened vacation" just reinforce my original opinion. Aren't you a stupid f.ck. I didn't announce that I'd be putting the kitten back on the street. I said I'd be forced to pu tit back on the street. You've been spewing sh.t over something I didn't do. Well, I may not know anything about feline survival rates and such, but I know pieces of sh.t like you have serious hang-ups and do nothing but spend their time projecting their ignorance over the internet because it is they who have no life, no family, or friends. You're a stupid prick with nothing better to do than verbally attack people you don't know. It is you who should be euthanized, and I'd be glad to do it. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. >> >> "> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little >> >> kitty> [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. I hope you feel better, Darren. I really do. MUhahaha! "Searcher7" <Searcher7@mail.con2.com> < snipped for being garbage> What Garbage!! You shortened your vacation due to emotional turmoil. Did you take you cat to Phil like he offered to take the furball. I believe he emailed you 3 times and offered to meet you or have some one me you? Don't say he didn't for Phil even came to the group and said so while you where still actively posting in the group. Others also CC and emailed you also to let you know. I even let you know that Phil would help you out. Now you wait till almost a month to come back to the group and start this BS. If this was a true emotional turmoil you would have came back sooner and let us know what you did with the kitten or let us know what you did before you left . Stick to Microsoft websites Everyone already knows what you are. And you can't say I did not try and help and even defended you but your own words have done you in. And for anyone who missed this supposed animal lover post you can read them again and see what this person is made of http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/browse_thread/thread/7 6b4a523efa263ae/84719c2b90e7854e > "Searcher7" <Search...@mail.con2.com> > > < snipped for being garbage> > > What Garbage!! You shortened your vacation due to emotional turmoil. What, are you stupid? Quote me exactly. That way if you aren't smart enough to understand what I said, someone else will. > Did you take you cat to Phil like he offered to take the furball. I > believe he emailed you 3 times and offered to meet you or have some one me > you? > Don't say he didn't for Phil even came to the group and said so while you > where still actively posting in the group. Others also CC and emailed you > also to let you know. I even let you know that Phil would help you out. Now you are lying. He posted *after* my last post before I had to leave. And no one could have e-mailed me, because I never posted my e- mail address. The forum e-mail I use to post has been defunct for many years.(It's funny that no one mentioned that their messages were bouncing back). I stay with that e-mail because I get no spam that way. Anyway, I did e-mail from my real address using the first addy I found on that site(Start@maxshouse.com). It didn't bounce back to me, so I'm sure it was received. But I never received a response back. > Now you wait till almost a month to come back to the group and start this > BS. I didn't start the BS, "Cybercat" did. And I wasn't going to be attacked on a public forum without firing back. If this was a true emotional turmoil you would have came back sooner > and let us know what you did with the kitten or let us know what you did > before you left . Emotional turmoil? What the hell are you talking about? I only bothered to post so I could address the crap "Cybercat" spewed. I have no obligation to let you know anything. Stick to Microsoft websites Everyone already knows what > you are. As if that made any sense. > And you can't say I did not try and help and even defended you but your own > words have done you in. You've defended me from nothing. And my words were all true. > And for anyone who missed this supposed animal lover post you can read them > again and see what this person is made ofhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/browse_thre... Whatever... Funny thing is that it was your first post in this thread that convinced me I couldn't put the kitten back outside. I think it was "give the furball a fighting chance" that impressed on me it really couldn't survive outside. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > Emotional turmoil? What the hell are you talking about? He is talking about what YOU posted, you single-eyebrowed halfwit: Searcher7" <Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message news:1183089886.985283.198540@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> In a simular situation I probably won't bother trying to save another > animal. Not because of the all the verbal abuse from "cybercat".(There > are jackasses like "cybercat" all over the internet). The reason is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. I only > bothered to post so I could address the crap "Cybercat" spewed. I have > no obligation to let you know anything. The "crap" I spewed was true. You did indeed threaten to put the kitten on the street. You're a moron, and I am not yet convinced that the entire incident was fabricated. > Funny thing is that it was your first post in this thread that > convinced me I couldn't put the kitten back outside. I think it was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Right. Just a minute ago you said you never seriously considered the idea, you greasy, limpdicked punk. f.ck off, Darren Harris of Staten Island New York. Next time you are going to be a callous idiot about a sick kitten in a catlover's group, I hope you get the same. ALL you had to do was take the cat to a friend with some money and have them take him to the vet, then go on vacation. Dickhead. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> I will let you deal with him Cybercat. It is not even worth my time > > Emotional turmoil? What the hell are you talking about? > > He is talking about what YOU posted, you single-eyebrowed halfwit: He couldn't be, you inbred piece of sh.t. > Searcher7" <Search...@mail.con2.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > on the street. You're a moron, and I am not yet convinced that the entire > incident was fabricated. I "threatened " nothing. You're an a.shole. And I'm convinced you have no life. > > Funny thing is that it was your first post in this thread that > > convinced me I couldn't put the kitten back outside. I think it was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Right. Just a minute ago you said you never seriously considered the > idea, you greasy, limpdicked punk. A minute ago? What idea? Show what you are referring to, asswipe. You're responding to imaginings in your mind. > f.ck off, Darren Harris of Staten Island New York. At least I'm man enough to let everyone know who I am and where to find me. You hide behind a moniker to spew verbal abuse without getting your a.s kicked. > Next time you are going to be a callous idiot about a sick kitten > in a catlover's group, I hope you get the same. ALL you had to > do was take the cat to a friend with some money and have them > take him to the vet, then go on vacation. Dickhead. I have no friends who would take a cat you low-life piece of sh.t. And who are you to guess at my situationa nd draw conclusions? Prick. Darren Haris Staten Island, New York. >> > Emotional turmoil? What the hell are you talking about? >> [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > I have no friends who would take a cat you low-life piece of sh.t. And > who are you to guess at my situationa nd draw conclusions? Prick. *yawn* We talk about cats here. "Searcher7" <Searcher7@mail.con2.com> Why did I even bother. Another one for the toilet < Flushed> > "Searcher7" <Searcher7@mail.con2.com> > > Why did I even bother. Another one for the toilet > > < Flushed> Well, the fact is, he said your post kept him from putting the sick kitten on the street. Even though it was likely euthanized, that had to be a better way to go than to be torn apart by dogs or to have starved to death or been hit by a car. So you did good, Matthew. >> "Searcher7" <Searcher7@mail.con2.com> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > better way to go than to be torn apart by dogs or to have starved to death > or been hit by a car. So you did good, Matthew. At least hopefully something good came out of it as long as it is not lying and leading us on a emotional game. Personally I don't believe a word it is spewing forth and or even care what it's response is to anything. But like I said in the other post You or someone else can tear him a new one if you or someone wants to. I am out of it not even worth my time to deal with it. I am going to give my furballs a good ear scratch plus a back scratch each and a temptation treat. > Well, the fact is, he said your post kept him from putting the sick kitten > on the street. Even though it was likely euthanized, that had to be a better > way to go than to be torn apart by dogs or to have starved to death or been > hit by a car. So you did good, Matthew. That *is* true so it *was* better to take the kitten there (if he did) than toss it out on the street (unbelievably cruel). It was sick, it would have suffered and been scared. If it was euth'ed in a shelter at least it was spared that. Poor little kitty. I hope he didn't dump it on the street... Candace > That *is* true so it *was* better to take the kitten there (if he did) > than toss it out on the street (unbelievably cruel). Yes, Candace. That is the kind of thing that might make a normal, decent person angry. >It was sick, it > would have suffered and been scared. If it was euth'ed in a shelter > at least it was spared that. Poor little kitty. I hope he didn't > dump it on the street... I am not convinced that he didn't, but then I am still not convinced there ever was a cat. Generally speaking, the kind of person who would take in a kitten is not the kind who would in the next breath say, "I will have to put it on the street because I'm going on vacation." And then there is the fact that this a.shole lied about contacting Phil. I vote troll. > > Did you take you cat to Phil like he offered to take the furball. I > > believe he emailed you 3 times and offered to meet you or have some one me [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > on that site(Start@maxshouse.com). It didn't bounce back to me, so I'm > sure it was received. But I never received a response back. You certainly did not send an email to start@maxshouse.com Several people monitor that mailbox. Its highly unlikely they all missed your email. My email to Searcher7@mail.con2.com did not bounce so I'm sure it was received. My guess is meeting at the Goethals Bridge was too inconvenient for you. So now the kitten is dead-- and *you're* responsible. >> > Did you take you cat to Phil like he offered to take the furball. I >> > believe he emailed you 3 times and offered to meet you or have some one [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > So now the kitten is dead-- and *you're* responsible. And I am an a.shole. That seems to be the most important thing. :D > > > Did you take you cat to Phil like he offered to take the furball. I > > > believe he emailed you 3 times and offered to meet you or have some one [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > You certainly did not send an email to st...@maxshouse.com Several people > monitor that mailbox. Its highly unlikely they all missed your email. Bullshit. After you posted that I e-mailed to the same address and received no response back. I finally got one on the third attempt. So either you're lying, there is a technical issue involved, or someone is ignoring e-mails. > My email to Search...@mail.con2.com did not bounce so I'm sure it was > received. My guess is meeting at the Goethals Bridge was too inconvenient > for you. Even an internet retard can easily confirm that that e-mail you claim to have sent messages to doesn't work > So now the kitten is dead-- and *you're* responsible.- Hide quoted text - I find it hilaroius that in a so-called "cat-lovers" group there are so many who apparently get off on the whole idea of a kitten being dead. This seems more like a "cat-haters" group to me. No one here knows what course of action I took or was able to take after that post from "Matthew" I mentioned, and no one knows the disposition of the kitten. But there are sick fantasises being conveyed here along with pictures that say more about the posters than anything else. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. Searcher7 <Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote: ... > I find it hilaroius that in a so-called "cat-lovers" group there are > so many who apparently get off on the whole idea of a kitten being [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. It's part of being unmoderated and publicly accessible, maybe combined with an infatuation for freedom of speech. I agree that personally attacking someone who is in possession of a sick kitten nobody else in the real world cares about is not the sign of a cat lover. But it's fun to watch some of the posters who tactfully but forcefully state their opinion, without crossing the line. Good luck. > > "> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty> like that. > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > happen. > Please try it? I believe I was the last person to BEG you to try taking advice with phone numbers that were offered to you by Stacey. I was delighted when Phil offered to help you too, by sending someone to either meet you, or someone that you left the kitten with if you really felt that you couldn't wait for a few days..... However, I think I can tell you exactly what happened to *the kitten that you are referring to* , because I took the time to follow this one up... I was surprised when I first saw this photo & If you follow the link, you will see where she ended up in case you were wondering. http://maxshouse.com/heartache.JPG This is where most kittens go. I hope it leaves you with the same picture in your mind as I did when I first saw it too. Sheelagh PS: I hope you had a stress free vacation? > However, I think I can tell you exactly what happened to *the kitten > that you are referring to* , because I took the time to follow this [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Sheelagh > PS: I hope you had a stress free vacation? The kill pile is exactly where the kitten ended up, if it was sick and surrended to a shelter, since it is high kitten season. The sad part about this story is if the guy had called any vet - an emergency vet, even - someone would have taken the kitten in, if only to euthanize it. Or he could have paid to have it euthanized. Personally, I think the guy is a liar or a troll. Or both. -L. >>"> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty> like that. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I wanted to mention what an a.shole "cybercat" is. Well, yes, she is an a.shole. I haven't read all your posts, I think you should have tried a little bit harder, but cybercat is quick to attack others and at least you cared for this feline for a short while. > "Cybercat" doesn't know me and obviously has serious psycological > problems where profane name calling initiated by dark fantasies is how > "cybercat" copes. Yep. >>>"> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty> >>>like that. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Yep. Could you two a.sholes get a room? > >>"> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty> like that. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you should have tried a little bit harder, but cybercat is quick to > attack others and at least you cared for this feline for a short while. So it's(Cybercat) a female? I guess that makes the nasty garbage coming out of her even more disgusting.(I'd still volunteer to euthanized her). No one can say they think I should have tried harder for that kitten without knowing how hard I did try. I spent the first day putting off what I should have been doing because I was afraid to leave the kitten for very long. I spent the second day waiting to get back a workable idea from someone at one of the forums I posted to while still making calls and checking the neighborhood for help. On the evening on the third day(and a day into my scheduled vacation departure) I finally found a place to take it.(They just have a habit of not picking of the phone that much, so one has to travel there with the animal). That was a several hour round trip, but it was worth it. I didn't know how sick the kitten was, so that bus trip felt like I was riding in an ambulance to the emergency hospital room.(And not moving fast enough). I basically had to give them my personal info and sign off on all rights of ownership. And they told me about the possibility of have to put the kitten down, as well as adoption if they could nurse it back to health. When I called back last month with the control number, I was told that the kitten was adopted. :-) I do wish I could have kept it though.(It's amazing how fast one can get attached to these animals). > > "Cybercat" doesn't know me and obviously has serious psycological > > problems where profane name calling initiated by dark fantasies is how > > "cybercat" copes. > > Yep. Ok, I guess there are other normal people in this group after all. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. >> >>"> It would be *unforgivable* behavior to abandon a sick little kitty> >> >>like that. [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. I have never seen a more self-righteous whiner in my life. It's as if you didn't barge into a cat group and announce that you had a tiny, sick kitten and were going to put it out on the street because you had to go on vacation and could not be bothered to contact any number of rescue groups. Take your thumb out of your mouth and your head out of your a.s and grow a backbone. How many people believe that asswipe here found out the kitten was adopted? That he called the shelter, in NYC, mind you, a month after abandoning the kitten, and they told him that this particular kitten had been adopted. " :-)" Piss off, a.shole. > How many people believe that asswipe here found out the kitten > was adopted? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Piss off, a.shole. It's *possible* they told him it was adopted, whether or not it was. Maybe that's SOP there. I hope it was but it sure would beat the odds if this story were true. Candace > It's *possible* they told him it was adopted, whether or not it was. > Maybe that's SOP there. I hope it was but it sure would beat the odds > if this story were true. All this wasted breath, from Darren Harris of Staten Island, New York. Months after he posted to tell us he had taken in a sick tiny kitten and was going to put it back out on the street because he has to go on vacation, and the kitten had already interfered with is preparations for going on VACATION. When all he had to do was do the right thing by the kitten and STFU about his VACATION. This a.shole came in here asking for suggestions then never followed a single one. Our contact in NYC, Phil, said he never contacted him, and why would he lie? Anyone with any doubt, read the entire thread. The point is clearly to have the cat lovers picture an injured/sick kitten being placed back on the street in a dangerous urban area. And what kind of human being has NO FRIENDS or relatives whom they might trust to take the kitten in, take the kitten to a vet or shelter come regular business hours? You're full of sh.t, Darren. And continuing to niggle at this thread just makes you look worse than you already did. As for the kitten--I am sure it is dead. You might have made sure it did not die, but you didn't. You went on vacation. Scumbag. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > It's *possible* they told him it was adopted, whether or not it was. > > Maybe that's SOP there. I hope it was but it sure would beat the odds [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > vacation. > Scumbag. If you weren't such a stupid skank, you'd realize that it is you who look worse with each post. Everyone who has read this thread including those a.sholes who egged you on earlier know that you've done nothing much but make assumptions and post them as fact, while ignoring what I've said. You then attack me for what you think happend in your limited imagination. I made it clear I knew nothing about cats, and when I was convinced by certain posters that it would not have been a good idea to put the kitten back outside, I continued to take all the actions I could to help it. All the other crap you made up. You can dismiss everything I've said all you want in an effort to put your own spin on things. The e-mails you know for a fact I didn't send. You knowing for a fact that I put the kitten back outside. You knowing for a fact that I had someone to leave the cat with. You knowing for a fact that I wasn't told the kitten was adopted. You knowing for a fact that the kitten is dead. You knowing for a fact that I live in a "dangerous urban area". You knowing for a fact that I'm a troll and the whole kitten story is made up. You can't even be consistent wjile you try to call me every nasty name you can think of. But two can play that game. You are a socially inept piece of sh.t with nothing to do but pick fights. Darren Harris Stten Island, New York. > If you weren't such a stupid skank, you'd realize that it is you who > look worse with each post. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Darren Harris > Stten Island, New York. I am not going to waste any more time on you, asswipe. The thread stands, so anyone who wants to know what you said and did can. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > If you weren't such a stupid skank, you'd realize that it is you who > > look worse with each post. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > The thread stands, so anyone who wants to know what you said > and did can. That's right. They can. And they can at the same time see what a retarded piece of garbge "Nancy Carter Moore" is. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. >> > If you weren't such a stupid skank, you'd realize that it is you who >> > look worse with each post. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Here's a bit of friendly advice, Darren: next time you see an animal in distress, ignore it and don't tell anyone. You'll save yourself a lot of aggravation. Charlie > And they can at the same time see what a retarded piece of garbge > "Nancy Carter Moore" is. > > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Gee, Darren, that's some fine investigation you did there. Let's dredge all kinds of old news up again for you newbies. Candace > > And they can at the same time see what a retarded piece of garbge > > "Nancy Carter Moore" is. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Candace Oh, and in case I didn't say it before, f.ck you. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > > > And they can at the same time see what a retarded piece of garbge > > > "Nancy Carter Moore" is. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Such a pleasant gentleman, wouldn't you say! >> > And they can at the same time see what a retarded piece of garbge >> > "Nancy Carter Moore" is. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Darren Harris >Staten Island, New York. Great response........ if you feel strongly you did the right thing, then why are you back here a couple months later trying so hard to justify your actions? What's the point? You came to this newsgroup with a problem early Monday morning May 28 & there were many responses all were telling you the same thing but you didn't follow the suggestions. Your first couple posts on what happened & what you did or didn't do stand for themselves, & it's all over & done with now. M. > >> > And they can at the same time see what a retarded piece of garbge > >> > "Nancy Carter Moore" is. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > over & done with now. > M. It's never over. And everything I wrote stand for themselves. Not just the first couple of posts. As long as a jackass attacks me in any way, I will respond. And this is not about justifying my actions. This is about defending myself against those who don't know what my actions were, since they have obviously dismissed what I wrote. When I'm chastised and verbally abused I will respond the way I feel like responding. And you are proving you are no different because like another poster you accuse me of not following suggestions. How do you know what suggestions I followed, since you also have obviously dismissed what I wrote? Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > And you are proving you are no different because like another poster > you accuse me of not following suggestions. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Yawn. We all hope the poor little kitty really was taken to a shelter and adopted. And none of us give a rat's a.s about you anymore. Candace > > And you are proving you are no different because like another poster > > you accuse me of not following suggestions. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Candace You must, since you keep posting. And speaking of a.ses, you are no different than certain other posters. You hang out here because you obviuosly have difficulty dealing with human beings, and since cats are known to dismiss the shortcomings of just about any jackass, this would obvioously be an ideal group for you. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > > > And you are proving you are no different because like another poster > > > you accuse me of not following suggestions. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Thank you for the diagnosis. I'll go jump now, goodbye, cruel cat- laden world. Candace P.S. Not that you would know cats, by any means, but I think you mean *dogs* will dismiss the shortcomings of just about any jackass; cats are a little more discriminating. > > > > And you are proving you are no different because like another poster > > > > you accuse me of not following suggestions. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > *dogs* will dismiss the shortcomings of just about any jackass; cats > are a little more discriminating.- Hide quoted text - No, I didn't mean dogs... Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > It's never over. Of course not. That guilt still tastes bitter, doesn't it? Nothing dies easily. >And everything I wrote stand for themselves. Not just > the first couple of posts. As long as a jackass attacks me in any way, > I will respond. > > And this is not about justifying my actions. Of course it is. If it wasn't, you'd never have come back. > This is about defending > myself against those who don't know what my actions were, since they > have obviously dismissed what I wrote. Do you really think anyone gives a sh.t about YOU? > When I'm chastised and verbally abused I will respond the way I feel > like responding. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. You are in *way* over your head, moron. You f.cked up, the kitten died, you feel guilty. Live with it. And f.ck off. Now crawl back under the rock from whence you came. -L. > > It's never over. > > Of course not. That guilt still tastes bitter, doesn't it? Nothing > dies easily. I don't experience guilt. I could cut your throat and sleep well right after. But that of course would only apply to those I dislike. > >And everything I wrote stand for themselves. Not just > > the first couple of posts. As long as a jackass attacks me in any way, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Of course it is. If it wasn't, you'd never have come back. Wrong again. I come back becuase I love addressing all the a.sholes like you. > > This is about defending > > myself against those who don't know what my actions were, since they > > have obviously dismissed what I wrote. > > Do you really think anyone gives a sh.t about YOU? I really don't give a sh.t if anyone gives a sh.t. > > When I'm chastised and verbally abused I will respond the way I feel > > like responding. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > You are in *way* over your head, moron. You f.cked up, the kitten > died, you feel guilty. Live with it. And f.ck off. Way over my head? What is that supposed to mean? Do you masterbate when you say "the kitten died"? I bet you really get off on the whole idea.(And it's funny, since you don't even believe there was a kitten). > Now crawl back under the rock from whence you came. I'm going no where. I'm sure there is enough room under your rock. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > > > It's never over. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I don't experience guilt. I could cut your throat and sleep well right > after. But that of course would only apply to those I dislike. And here he is, one fat, ugly motherf..ker who is going down for making threats online: Here is the freak, Darren Harris of Staten Island, New York in full color: http://tinyurl.com/yuuq5a Scrolllll down, he's the fat brown dickhead with the halfwitted expression on his face. Dude's a Pacman Champ. And a Double donkey Kong stud. And he lets kittens die on the street. It became known Monday morning that he's threatening people in a cat group. NYPD loves busting freaks like this fat black boy with his thumnail penis hidden under rolls of fatty stretch marks. LMAO On Aug 10, 12:12 am, stinkyj...@gmail.com wrote: > > >Searcher7wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > LMAO Creating another usenet I.D. for this one post in an efort to hide yourself isn't fooling anyone. I've don't play "Pacman", and have also never played "Double donkey kong" you stupid skank. And you referenced the wrong pic of me.(Whatever pic you are referencing). Your continue to lie about me letting "...kittens die on the street". You edited a qoute, which means it is not a qoute, in an attempt to take me out of context, and falsely say on a public forum that I threatened someone Monday. I don't know what the NYPD referrence was about, but now you have made yourself out to be not just a nasty, filthy mouth skank, you are a racist also? Lol. Keep trying, bitch.(Lets see how many more of your friends jump on your bandwagon). Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > On Aug 10, 12:12 am, stinkyj...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > And you referenced the wrong pic of me.(Whatever pic you are > referencing). Uh huh, it's not you, so thats why you took it down off your pacman site. LMAO Thing is, I saved it before you could take it down. Making you your very own web site now, ugly f.cker. > Your continue to lie about me letting "...kittens die on the street". > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > yourself out to be not just a nasty, filthy mouth skank, you are a > racist also? What racist, your brown, dude. And the public needs to know your dangerous. This is what you get when you threaten people who don't agree with you. If you ca'nt handel the newsgroups dont post in them. Watch this space. You'll see your face in no time. On Aug 10, 12:34 pm, stinkyj...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Aug 10, 12:12 am, stinkyj...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Watch this space. You'll see your face in no time. I'm watching. :-) Oh, and going by your post you also have issues with "fat" people. And yes, I can be dangerous if I want to be. And if you want to know what I look like, I'll gladly set up a meeting with anyone here, which is the only way(since you'd probably accuse me of claiming to be someone I'm not). Again, I stand behind everything I say, unlike you with your false accusations. And another thing. You seem to think you have personal knowledge of me naked. So obviously you are now fantasizing about me. So let me leave you with this. 6' 2" tall, 240lbs,, with washboard abs, hazel eyes and dimples. If you want to see, let me know. Ha! Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. {{{{{{{{{OUCH}}}}}}}}} Sorry fell asleep reading this boring BS Anybody else feel sleepy <YAWN> Someone wake me when it gets something original Falling asleep reading thes.......................................................................<snore> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ > Oh, and going by your post you also have issues with "fat" people. no that's me, i have issues with fat people, they repulse me > And another thing. You seem to think you have personal knowledge of me > naked. So obviously you are now fantasizing about me. So let me leave > you with this. 6' 2" tall, 240lbs,, with washboard abs, hazel eyes and > dimples. yeah right, like anyone cares, more interested in what your cat looks like, if you have one that is bookie > > Oh, and going by your post you also have issues with "fat" people. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > bookie Ok, I would send you a pic of a fat cat, but..... Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > > > Oh, and going by your post you also have issues with "fat" people. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. but what? send me a picture of you, then i will decide whether you are fit enough....otherwise a picture of a cat,will do just as well where is staten island? >> It's never over. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >-L. -L, Don't bother yourself with this Troll. I feel exactly the same way that you do about him! He really is out to make a mark in here, & he has too. Lets leave the record open for all to see that what you , Phil, Candace & Cyber had to say, how he was advised in the first place, & how he chooses to treat people that genuinely tried to help him when he first came here. He simply isn't worth the aggro, anyway he wouldn't understand if you poked it up his nose sideways. Good Bye Darren, you are not worthy of my attention. Sheelagh >"o"< SignatureS;o) > Don't bother yourself with this Troll. I feel exactly the same way that > you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to |
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