Gas can kill them too.

On May 22, 7:34 pm, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEG...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Gas induction of anesthesia is NOT safer, ESPECIALLY for older and
medically vulnerable animals. From the Pet Connection blog:
http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/15/the-anesthesia-myth-that-can-kill-y
our-pet/

Please read it. But also read this, about the importance of proper
dental care for your cat:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/05/15/petscol.DTL

Lis

I agree.  My cat's teeth aren't the greatest, and the poor thing lost many
of her little teeth when she was young.   One vet told me years ago that
she needed all kinds of dental work, and another said all he saw was tartar
that he would recommend cleaning at some point, but didn't insist upon.

I've read that the real signs of dental problems is if the breath is
noticeably bad, and the cat is drooling a bit.  At that point, it's
probably mandatory to take the cat in.  Otherwise, you have to weigh the
benefits of the cleaning and dental work with the dangers of the
anesthesia, and the experience level of the doctor and assistants
performing the work.  My current vet said if it ever got to that point, he
would recommend a veterinary dental specialist at an animal hospital.

My feeling is that unless it's an emergency, sometimes it's best to leave
well enough alone.  I know that we have to practice preventive medicine for
our animals, but certain procedures are just not as safe for them as they
are for humans.  Remember that veterinarians are not subject to the same
disciplines of the legal system as doctors and hospitals are, or similar
state licensing in terms of assistants.

On 23 May, 10:29, Eddy Bentley
<eddy.bent...@removeALLbutRESTvirgin.net> wrote:

when I got my old cat jasper a few years ago (he was 17 or so at the
time) i was told that he didn't eat dried crunchy food because his
previous mum (some old dear) had never given them to him and so he
didn't know what to do with them and it turned out that he wasn't
interested in them anyway.
anyway in the space of 18 months in which i had him before he had to
be PTS (bladder tumour) he had 2 dentals and after the first one the
vet gave me a special toothbrush and enzymatic toothpaste, verbac i
think, and told me to start brushing at least once a week, everyday if
I coudl manage it, since jasper was prone to build up of tartar and as
jasper was vehemently against eating dried kibble food to clean his
own teeth, I had to do it for him.

You woudl think that starting cleaning a cats teeth at the age of 16or
17 woudl be a nightmare but then i had to give him felimazole tablets
twice a day anyway, always straight down his throat, so he was quiet
used to me manhandling him and probaly worked out that after a short
period of this strange human slave manhandling him he would get a
plate of prawns or other treat, so it was worth the indignity of it.
he was fairly laid back cat anyway, only the first few times did I
have to have him wrapped in a towel and held by someone else.

i haven't had to do this with jessie since she has no teeth anymore
(nothing to do with me, they were in a really bad way when she was
handed into the rescue centre and they took them out, well a vet did)
so that is not a problem. Not really been there with terri yet but she
has only been with us 2 months now.

if a cat is eating crunchy food and able to clean it's own teeth i
would not bother cleaning their teeth for them personally, but jasper
woudl not eat dried food so i had to step in.btw 20 years may not be
long in your eyes but to a cat that is over 100years old and far
longer than a cat would live to in a the wild, maybe twice as long in
fact, so dental health is important to think about even if it is to
avoid paying costly vet bills for dentals all the time

bookie

On 23 May, 10:29, Eddy Bentley
<eddy.bent...@removeALLbutRESTvirgin.net> wrote:

when I got my old cat jasper a few years ago (he was 17 or so at the
time) i was told that he didn't eat dried crunchy food because his
previous mum (some old dear) had never given them to him and so he
didn't know what to do with them and it turned out that he wasn't
interested in them anyway.
anyway in the space of 18 months in which i had him before he had to
be PTS (bladder tumour) he had 2 dentals and after the first one the
vet gave me a special toothbrush and enzymatic toothpaste, verbac i
think, and told me to start brushing at least once a week, everyday if
I coudl manage it, since jasper was prone to build up of tartar and as
jasper was vehemently against eating dried kibble food to clean his
own teeth, I had to do it for him.

You woudl think that starting cleaning a cats teeth at the age of 16or
17 woudl be a nightmare but then i had to give him felimazole tablets
twice a day anyway, always straight down his throat, so he was quiet
used to me manhandling him and probaly worked out that after a short
period of this strange human slave manhandling him he would get a
plate of prawns or other treat, so it was worth the indignity of it.
he was fairly laid back cat anyway, only the first few times did I
have to have him wrapped in a towel and held by someone else.

i haven't had to do this with jessie since she has no teeth anymore
(nothing to do with me, they were in a really bad way when she was
handed into the rescue centre and they took them out, well a vet did)
so that is not a problem. Not really been there with terri yet but she
has only been with us 2 months now.

if a cat is eating crunchy food and able to clean it's own teeth i
would not bother cleaning their teeth for them personally, but jasper
woudl not eat dried food so i had to step in.btw 20 years may not be
long in your eyes but to a cat that is over 100years old and far
longer than a cat would live to in a the wild, maybe twice as long in
fact, so dental health is important to think about even if it is to
avoid paying costly vet bills for dentals all the time

bookie

I don't either but it's because they won't let me near their mouths
with the toothbrush. Instead, I feel them Science Diet Oral Care and
add an anti-plaque treatment to their water once a month.

A lot of years ago my vet came up with some treats that supposedly cleaned
teeth.  The cats went crazy for it and with three it was very expensive.
But, one of the cats kept throwing it up and I couldn't see giving it to the
other 2 cats and not her.  Then recently they came out with these
"Greenies".  We all know that several dogs died of blockages and Greenies
were found clogging up their insides.  Now my vet offered something new and
I quickly said "no".  My Sapphire needed 2 teeth pulled 2 years before she
died and it was an ordeal.  I brought her home very woozy from the
anesthetic although by the next day she was fine.

--
Barb
Of course I don't look busy,
I did it right the first time.

The enzymatic, chicken-flavored toothpaste I bought
for my cats is supposed to work if you just smear it on.
*shrug*

I have done it a couple of times, but the cats hate it.

I'm going to be judgmental here, and say that no vet should be
anesthetizing an animal without doing a pre-anesthesia blood
screening.  A lot of owners won't know enough to insist if the vet
doesn't suggest it, but it's really, really important.

Lis

I'm going to be judgmental here, and say that no vet should be
anesthetizing an animal without doing a pre-anesthesia blood
screening.  A lot of owners won't know enough to insist if the vet
doesn't suggest it, but it's really, really important.

Lis

I'm going to be judgmental here, and say that no vet should be
anesthetizing an animal without doing a pre-anesthesia blood
screening.  A lot of owners won't know enough to insist if the vet
doesn't suggest it, but it's really, really important.

Lis

I'm going to be judgmental here, and say that no vet should be
anesthetizing an animal without doing a pre-anesthesia blood
screening.  A lot of owners won't know enough to insist if the vet
doesn't suggest it, but it's really, really important.

Lis

I'm going to be judgmental here, and say that no vet should be
anesthetizing an animal without doing a pre-anesthesia blood
screening.  A lot of owners won't know enough to insist if the vet
doesn't suggest it, but it's really, really important.

Lis

I'm going to be judgmental here, and say that no vet should be
anesthetizing an animal without doing a pre-anesthesia blood
screening.  A lot of owners won't know enough to insist if the vet
doesn't suggest it, but it's really, really important.

Lis