Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / May 2007
Homemade catfood?
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Ken Knecht - 21 May 2007 14:29 GMT If you are making your own cat food, what is your cat's favorite catfood? I've been feeding raw ground turkey. At first she ate it for a few days, then refused it. I tried again after a week and she ate only about 2/3 of it. Next day I tried leaving the supplements - calcium, B-complex, Vit E, and other stuff - off and she ate it all. Last night I tried her on a little mixed fried chicken livers, tomatoes, peppers, onions and rice I was having for supper and she ate that. So evidently it's the supplements she doesn't like, not the food. How do you smuggle them into the food and what do you use?
I ordered some stuff suggested in a book on cat nutrition I'm using - bone meal, brewer's yeast, lethicin, cod liver oil, Udo Choice oil (omega 3 & 6 & other essential oils), taurine, etc. and will experiment with that. I had been using ground up calcium, E, and B-complex that I take, and some mixed supplements I got at the pet store.
How do you successfully do it?
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Rene S. - 21 May 2007 15:06 GMT Why don't you try a premade raw diet? That way you won't have to worry about adding the correct supplements. I buy Nature's Variety raw (frozen). It's formed into small nugget shapes, so it's easy to take out as may as you need.
www.naturesvariety.com
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Ken Knecht - 21 May 2007 18:03 GMT "Rene S." <rschweitzer@kalmbach.com> wrote in news:1179756360.879155.308210 @n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
> Why don't you try a premade raw diet? That way you won't have to worry > about adding the correct supplements. I buy Nature's Variety raw [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Rene Thanks.
Unfortunately, no retailers in my area. I live in SW AZ and the nearest are in CA, in towns I never heard of so they can't be very close. Too bad. Sounds like a good product and perhaps the answer to my quest.
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Rene S. - 21 May 2007 18:40 GMT > Unfortunately, no retailers in my area. I live in SW AZ and the nearest are > in CA, in towns I never heard of so they can't be very close. Too bad. > Sounds like a good product and perhaps the answer to my quest. > > -- > Untie the two knots to email me Maybe you can check with a local pet store to see if they might start stocking it? The store where I get mine from sells it out like hotcakes. Or perhaps a health food store would stock it?
PawsForThought - 22 May 2007 00:48 GMT > > Unfortunately, no retailers in my area. I live in SW AZ and the nearest are > > in CA, in towns I never heard of so they can't be very close. Too bad. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > stocking it? The store where I get mine from sells it out like > hotcakes. Or perhaps a health food store would stock it? I've seen the Nature's Variety at Whole Foods but I don't think it was their raw one. I did see a frozen raw food called something like Country Pet there though. I've never tried it so I can't comment.
PawsForThought - 21 May 2007 18:35 GMT My cats favorite meal is quail. I buy 4 in a package and then use a poultry shears to cut it up into manageable pieces. Their favorite ground meat right now is turkey but that will usually change as I find they go through phases of liking different meats. I feed a specific meat for 2 or 3 days then rotate. The key to a really good raw diet is variety. If you feed only one or two meats, the cat can get tired of it. My cats like venison, ostrich and beef as well. My cats have been fed raw since they were kittens. I know it's a lot harder when switching over an adult cat. Are you following a speicific recipe i.e. the supplements? Raw meat has different supplement requirements that processed cooked food so it's good to follow a recipe. I use a pestal and mortor to grind the supplements into a powder. Then I put each meal's supplements in a 3 oz paper cup. When it's time to feed them, I add about a tablespoon of water to the powdered supps and stir it well. Then I add it to the meat. I use ground eggshell powder I make from organic eggs as my calcium source. As another option for you, Feline Future sells a powdered supplement that you just add to the meat. All the math has been done for you so it makes feeding a raw diet very easy. I would also really recommend joining one of the raw feeding groups where there are mentors who've been feeding raw for a long time, and who can really help someone starting out with a raw diet. If you're interested, email me and I can send you some links.
Lauren
cindys - 21 May 2007 19:59 GMT > Last night I tried her on a > little mixed fried chicken livers, tomatoes, peppers, onions and rice ----------- I just wanted to comment on this point - Onions (and garlic and raisins/grapes) are all really bad for cats. Onions and garlic will give the cat anemia. Raisins/grapes can kill the cat. Please don't feed your cat any more onions (either raw or cooked). Best regardsm ---Cindy S.
Rene S. - 21 May 2007 21:34 GMT > > little mixed fried chicken livers, tomatoes, peppers, onions and rice > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Best regardsm > ---Cindy S. Cindy,
Wow, I missed that! You are indeed correct.
PawsForThought - 22 May 2007 00:51 GMT I found the Country Pet website. I guess if you join, they send you a free gift (maybe a coupon for free food??) Renee, have you ever heard of this food?
http://www.countrypet.com/free.asp
Rene S. - 22 May 2007 14:49 GMT > I found the Country Pet website. I guess if you join, they send you a > free gift (maybe a coupon for free food??) Renee, have you ever heard > of this food? > > http://www.countrypet.com/free.asp Yes, and I've seen it at pet stores too. I haven't tried it, though. I couldn't get the cat food page to come up. What are the ingredients?
Rene S. - 22 May 2007 20:50 GMT I've been thinking about your situation. With all of the hysteria from the pet-food recall, I'm guessing this is why you've chosen to make your cat's food. However, there are brands that are safe. I have a friend who's done extensive research (even calling the companies) because she has a number of cats and was obviously concerned about their well being. These three companies (canned versions) are high quality foods:
Wellness canned (chicken, turkey, beef & chicken, chicken & herring, turkey & salmon): http://www.omhpet.com/wellness/cat_index.html Nature's Variety canned: www.naturesvariety.com Innova Evo canned: http://www.naturapet.com/brands/evo.asp
All these brands are made with human-grade ingredients and are grain free. If you can't find a store near you, I'm sure there's an online store that would ship it to you. I urge you to check out one of these brands. I'd hate to see your cat become ill from an unbalanced diet.
Rene
PawsForThought - 24 May 2007 18:14 GMT > > >http://www.countrypet.com/free.asp > > Yes, and I've seen it at pet stores too. I haven't tried it, though. I > couldn't get the cat food page to come up. What are the ingredients? Copied from their site: Ingredients: Chicken, Fish, Water (sufficient for processing), Whole Eggs, a pinch or two of Vitamins and Minerals consisting of: S Choline Chloride Supplement, Magnesium Oxide, Zinc Sulphate, Ferrous Sulphate, alt (Sodium Chloride), Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Sulphate Supplement, Manganese Sulphate, Nicotinic Acid, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate Supplement, Vitamin B2, Calcium Iodate, Selenium Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin B6 Hydrochloride, Vitamin B1 Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid.
I don't know anyone who's fed this food, just that I saw it at Whole Foods. I did sign up for the coupon for the free package. But I probably won't use it as I see it has fish in it and I'm highly allergic to it. I'd be too afraid if I touched it, I would have a reaction. It's weird, I can give my cats fish oil, no problems, but I can't touch fish.
Rene S. - 24 May 2007 19:42 GMT > > > >http://www.countrypet.com/free.asp > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > reaction. It's weird, I can give my cats fish oil, no problems, but I > can't touch fish. I'm not crazy about feeding fish to cats myself. I know it can be an allergen. Did you check out the other foods in the post above?
PawsForThought - 25 May 2007 19:24 GMT > > > > >http://www.countrypet.com/free.asp > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I feed my cats homemade raw, but I got a bag of Evo and use it as treats for my cats. As soon as you say the word "treat" they come running. I remember Nature's Variety customer support was really good when I had inquired what their proximate analysis of their food was. They seemed a lot more helpful than most pet food companies.
Olux - 26 May 2007 11:38 GMT > I feed my cats homemade raw, but I got a bag of Evo and use it as > treats for my cats. What is your homemade raw receipie. Can we find it on the web. I mentionned above in this forum the one that I use since 3 weeks and the result on my cat are considerable. I would like to compare with other raw receipies Thanks
Olux - 22 May 2007 12:30 GMT Hi ken I'm giving since two month with success raw food for my cat . I'm using the receip givin in raisin your cat naturally from Michelle Bernard. No vegetable at all. Cat are strick carnivore I use chicken tighs with the bone, chicken hart, liver, egg yolk, water , taurine, salmon oil, vit B complex and Vit E and very little kelp and dulse, That's all
You can find a similar receip here http://www.catinfo.org/makingcatfood.htm#The_Ingredients
Since, no more sh.t and urinary problem. His furs is now beautiful and he is more playfull and he is back in his litter for hs poops
> If you are making your own cat food, what is your cat's favorite catfood? > I've been feeding raw ground turkey. At first she ate it for a few days, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > How do you successfully do it?
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