Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / May 2007
my youngest cat is 9 weeks old and needs a flea collar
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David Mooney - 16 May 2007 22:36 GMT What kind of cat collars are good for a cat so small? Or, should I rely on Frontline? I hear Frontline is the best. I have applied Frontline to my other cats in the past but I could still see fleas on them from time to time not long after application. I want the best for my cats.
Regards, David L
MaryL - 16 May 2007 22:50 GMT > What kind of cat collars are good for a cat so small? Or, should I rely on > Frontline? I hear Frontline is the best. I have applied Frontline to my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Regards, > David L Please don't use a flea collor, especially on a kitten. They can be dangerous for your cat and are usually not effective. Also, don't use over-the-counter preparations. Contact your vet for Advantage, Frontline, or Revolution. Be sure to mention the age and weight of your cat when you pick up the package.
MaryL
David Mooney - 17 May 2007 11:57 GMT >> What kind of cat collars are good for a cat so small? Or, should I rely >> on Frontline? I hear Frontline is the best. I have applied Frontline to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > MaryL Thanks Mary,
David L
bookie - 17 May 2007 17:11 GMT > >> What kind of cat collars are good for a cat so small? Or, should I rely > >> on Frontline? I hear Frontline is the best. I have applied Frontline to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - i hate seeing collars on cats, i think it looks just awful and is totally unnatural, use frontline, much better
James - 18 May 2007 18:42 GMT > > "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - My grey pussy looks good in a pink collar with bell. Kinda like a girl with ribbon in her hair.
sheelagh - 18 May 2007 23:16 GMT > What kind of cat collars are good for a cat so small? Or, should I rely on > Frontline? I hear Frontline is the best. I have applied Frontline to my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Regards, > David L Front line & stronghold are about the best ones that I think are good.. but please check with your vet before using them please?
I bet we all sound like a load of old farts telling you what is best for your kitty, but I assure you that from my point of view, what I'm about to tell you is the truth & nearly killed one of our cats too...
We have a cat called Lucy(fur!). I ended up having to trap her with help and advice from Phil, because she wouldn't allow any one even close to her. she was a stray that had been visiting our community feeding bowl for some weeks when I noticed that her neck was swollen on one side & that part of her collar wasn't visible.
Eventually I managed to find an American family an hours drive away who were willing to lend me a trap to catch her & get her treated just before last Xmas. Once we eventually managed to catch her, she was like a little Tasmanian Devil, & appeared in so much pain. On closer inspection, I realised that she had a collar on that she had out grown when she was either dumped, or left out to fend for herself, Her skin was all infected around it where the skin was actually growing over the collar that was probably well intended, but causing her so much trouble.
She had a couple of abscess's that needed draining, & a shot of antibiotics as well as the skin cut open to remove the flea collar that was the cause of all of this trouble & pain meds & oral antibiotics to clear the rest of the infection as well. It was terrible!!
It took her well over a month to recover from this terrible ordeal, & in the process, my daughter Tilly was the only one of us that she would allow near her..but slowly, she relearned to trust humans again & we ended up keeping her. The name Lucy(fur!) was a very well earned name & it has stuck ever since.....
My point here David, is that the collars are no where near as effective as the flea preps that we are recommending to you. Especially the spot on ones, because they all you have to do is administer it in between her shoulder blades, & it is also effective against some types of worms too. It is 99.99% effective, truly, as long as she is old enough to have the spot on treatments & eliminates the need to use a collar, however pretty it is. the dangers of the collar are not just confined to outgrowing them- they can also get caught & end up dangling from them, & in extreme cases can hang themselves, which is something that I wouldn't wish on anyone....
By all means find a nice pink bow that you can clip to her fur to make her look like the little kitty out of the Aristocats (my, she really was sweet, lol;o)... But please,.... think about taking that collar off her if you love her. There are so many dangerous scenario's that I could spend hours telling you about, but they would be boring and pointless after a while....
***The main thing that I am trying to tell you is that they are no where near as effective as the flea treatments that everyone has told you about here already*** & they are by Far SAFER than ANY COLLAR that you would care to use....
Tell you what we would all love to see.... A super duper Brilliant Photo of your little ones when you have the time to post one, if you wouldn't mind of course? The chances are that she is sooo pretty that she wouldn't need one anyway....
Having said that, if you really want something to make her look Girly, then do a search on the net. there are loads of inventive people out there who have thought the same thing as you & have marketed their safer idea's for people like us...
Good Luck David, & thank you for reading this. My only intention here is to ask you to reconsider her collar. there are lots of other pretty ideas for little kitty girls out there rather than dangerous collars...
S;o) PS: If this is the same little one that gets salmon for tea, then she is a very well loved puss cat indeed, LOL >"o"<
bookie - 19 May 2007 00:43 GMT > > What kind of cat collars are good for a cat so small? Or, should I rely on > > Frontline? I hear Frontline is the best. I have applied Frontline to my [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > PS: If this is the same little one that gets salmon for tea, then she > is a very well loved puss cat indeed, LOL >"o"< there you go david, someone else who agrees with me that collars for cats are BAD. they are nowhere near as effective as spot on treatments for fleas and ticks and lice, they are dangerous if the cat climbs and ends up hangin itself from the collar and most of all, the sight of a cat, a beautiful semi-wild creature, wearing some nasty, evil, horrid, constraining man made collar is sad and abhorrent.
you can treat your cats fleas without using collars and you can make sure your cat can be identified if lost without one too (microchipping) so PLEASE don't put a collar on your beautiful little girl, let all her natural beauty show, she is much more lovely and pretty without one on.
bookie
David Mooney - 19 May 2007 05:16 GMT >> What kind of cat collars are good for a cat so small? Or, should I rely >> on [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > PS: If this is the same little one that gets salmon for tea, then she > is a very well loved puss cat indeed, LOL >"o"< hello shelagh, Thanks for your nice letter. Tomorrow I am going to buy Frontline at Wal-Mart. I am going to remove the collars. Ihave 4 cats and they are all very deaar to me. Each cat is a little different. But I do have a question. Rusty, thesecond cat I ever had, doesn'tm like to be held. She ws a lap cat from 003 to 0005 but something chnaged a couple of year ago. She just didn't like being held very much anymore. She still rubs her head on my legs and she lays next to me sometimes. But no holding,
Thanks, David Lee
---MIKE--- - 19 May 2007 12:49 GMT David Lee wrote:
>>Tomorrow I am going to buy Frontline >> at Wal-Mart. I don't think Walmart sells Frontline. If they do - fine - but if not, DO NOT buy any other spot on product such as Hartz. Cats have gotten sick and even died from the use of these products.
When Amber was younger she used to sit on my lap but then she suddenly stopped. She will rub on my legs and loves to sit next to me and be petted but no lap. She also hates to be picked up.
---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') MaryL - 20 May 2007 15:36 GMT > hello shelagh, > Thanks for your nice letter. Tomorrow I am going to buy Frontline at [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks, > David Lee I think you can buy Frontline, Advantage, and Revolution only from your vet (not from WalMart) -- but you will not need an appointment to buy them. You will not need to hold your cats to administer these products (between the shoulderblades) because your cat cannot lick it off there. I suggest that you remove the flea collar and then wait a few days before using one of these treatments to avoid "over-dosing."
MaryL
PawsForThought - 20 May 2007 16:34 GMT Hi David, You've gotten lots of great advice here, especially to avoid flea collars and Hartz products. I would defnitely get something from your vet so you will know it's safe for a kitten if she has fleas. If you do decide to use a collar with ID tag, there are some that are stretchy. Meaning if the cat were to get stuck, the collar would slip over her head. This one is a very good one:
http://www.harmonybuckles.com/merchant/index.html
sheelagh - 20 May 2007 18:09 GMT > >> What kind of cat collars are good for a cat so small? Or, should I rely > >> on [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] > very much anymore. She still rubs her head on my legs and she lays next to > me sometimes. But no holding, Thank you for considering to remove their collars. I know that you love your kitties..I can see that you are concerned about their welfare by what you write David. You have no idea how much I appreciate that! I very much hope that you don't think I was trying to bully you into it, or trying to scare you, because that wasn't my intention at all. I just never want to hear of anyone's cat going through what out little girl did. It was one of the worst looking wounds that I have ever come across, & the smell was putrefying too. There are so many alternatives on the net for you to use instead to make her look as beautiful as you would like her to be;o)
I don't know where you would buy frontline/advantage/stronghold in the USA, but we have to get a prescription in the UK, then order what we want from where we choose to but it from, regarding flea, & worm treatment preparations. I mentioned the other spot on remover liquids because they do two/three jobs in one, but do please consult a vet to be sure that you can use them on your tiny little girl first please?
All you have to do is nip the end off the phial with some scissors, then split the hair behind their shoulder blades, where they can't lick it off & it lasts for many weeks, before you have to apply another one & it keeps them flea, worm & tick free too.
> Each cat is a little different. But I do have a question. Rusty, the second > cat I ever had, doesn'tm like to be held. She ws a lap cat from 003 to 0005 > but something chnaged a couple of year ago. She just didn't like being held > very much anymore. She still rubs her head on my legs and she lays next to > me sometimes. But no holding, sometimes things can happen that you are not aware of.. ie: someone picked him/her(?) up, & made them feel insecure, which is what has led him/her feel that they no longer wish to sit in a place that makes them feel that way. This is one of MANY possible scenario's...However, the point is that Rusty does feel that way, so what you need to do is build up on that trust again...(sometimes it is not the owners fault, but someone that visits you).....
Personally, I would accept the leg weaving with lots of praise for possitive reactions, but no forcing her to do something that he/she doesn't want to do. I have a cat who is similar to the that as well. She loves me, she sits @ my feet, she will sit on the arm of my chair & even on the back of the chair, but never my lap unless I leave food in my lap, in which case he wil sit down for a few moments, then gets down again. So I know it is not a trust issue with her, it is more a character thing.. she simply prefers not to sit on my knee... If you can't get Rusty to sit on your knee then please don't think it is "your Fault", because it's not, some cats just prefer it that way.... Anyway, brushuing around you is just as good, because it means that the cat is marking you with scent glands so that every other cat knows that you belong to them, LOL....
I look forward to hearing how your brood of cats gets on with the new flea treatment. I'm certain that you will find them far more effective because what happens is that the frontline phials soak into the skin, & when the fleas bite, they feed on the fresh skin that the cat sheds & it makes them die... This way, the eggs that they lay never get the chance to develop either. with a flea collar, the only place that they protect is the actual area that the collars cover!! Good Luck Dave;o) S;o)
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