>> After several days of eating it twice a day, Emily 'Bottomless Pit'
>> cat refused her raw turkey last Thursday. Back to dry food. I'll
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> Fancy Feast is fine. 44 cents a can at WalMart. Made by Nestle
> Purina, and their ingredients are American made.
How do I know that? Besides, Nestle is a European company (Swiss?), not
American.
> A few flavors have
> wheat gluten, many do not. Tender Beef Feast, Gourmet Chicken
> Feast, Cod, Ocean Whitefish, Liver and Chicken.
>
> Why are you acting like it is raw or dry for your cats? That's
> patently ridiculous.
I didn't say that. She currently gets Science Diet canned food for one
meal.
> Meanwhile, would YOU eat raw turkey? Eccck.
I tried frying it. She wouldn't eat it that way either. I am feeding her
raw because the cat/dog food nutrition book I have says raw is better for
her.
> Get those cats on Fancy Feast. Real liver, beef, chicken, turkey,
> and fish as the first ingredients of most, then things like broth,
> some with byproducts listed later, but byproducts are fine for
> cats. (I imagine mouse lips, ears, tails and guts would be mouse
> byproducts, right?)

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cybercat - 12 May 2007 19:41 GMT
>>> After several days of eating it twice a day, Emily 'Bottomless Pit'
>>> cat refused her raw turkey last Thursday. Back to dry food. I'll
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> How do I know that? Besides, Nestle is a European company (Swiss?), not
> American.
Right. We cannot trust what any cat food company says. So how can
you know what is in DRY food, which is never better for your cat than
canned due to decreased water content?
>> A few flavors have
>> wheat gluten, many do not. Tender Beef Feast, Gourmet Chicken
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> I didn't say that. She currently gets Science Diet canned food for one
> meal.
You said: "After several days of eating it twice a day, Emily 'Bottomless
Pit'
cat refused her raw turkey last Thursday. Back to dry food."
And, Science Diet was a brand that was ON the recall list for cat food,
whereas Purina has not been.
In any case, I was trying to be helpful. My cats have eaten FF for a long
time and had no problems at all. One of them has a lot of allergies, too.
kittycarer@tiscali.co.uk - 14 May 2007 17:11 GMT
> >>> After several days of eating it twice a day, Emily 'Bottomless Pit'
> >>> cat refused her raw turkey last Thursday. Back to dry food. I'll
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I found this page was rather interesting. I hope that it might be of
some help to you in your endevours to make and feed your own cat food.
I make my own because we have a big fat Birman called Binky who
required home made food, & found this site rather well rounded. Good
luck with your project & I hope that it goes well for you.
K.
James - 22 May 2007 20:13 GMT
> I tried frying it. She wouldn't eat it that way either. I am feeding herrawbecause the cat/dog food nutrition book I have saysrawis better for
> her.
What other raw foods does the book recommend? I'll all for no cook
meals. How does raw chicken compare to raw turkey?
Ken Knecht - 23 May 2007 17:44 GMT
>> I tried frying it. She wouldn't eat it that way either. I am feeding
>> herrawbecause the cat/dog food nutrition book I have saysrawis better
>> for her.
>
> What other raw foods does the book recommend? I'll all for no cook
> meals. How does raw chicken compare to raw turkey?
Turkey, chicken, beef, lamb, pork, duck, rabbit and various fishes. Some
also use quail, venison, emu, ostrich and others. I use turkey because
it's already ground. If she tires of that I'll grind some chicken.
I use the book _Dr. Pitcairn' Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs
and Cats_. Lots of info also on-line. some conflicting. I decided to go
with the recommendations in the book. You have to supplement the raw meat
with vitamines, minerals, etc.

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PawsForThought - 23 May 2007 19:04 GMT
> > I tried frying it. She wouldn't eat it that way either. I am feeding herrawbecause the cat/dog food nutrition book I have saysrawis better for
> > her.
>
> What other raw foods does the book recommend? I'll all for no cook
> meals. How does raw chicken compare to raw turkey?
Raw chicken and raw turkey are pretty comparable. I have Dr.
Pitcairn's book but found his cat food recipes too high in grains and
I believe his recipes called for vegetable oil, rather than whole body
fish oil (more bioavailable to a cat). A couple of good sites for
information are:
http://www.catinfo.org/
(Make sure to check out Dr. Zoran's excellent article (link on right
side of page)
This site has a recipe:
http://www.catfood.catnutrition.org/CatFoodRecipe.pdf
Ken Knecht - 24 May 2007 18:24 GMT
> I have Dr.
> Pitcairn's book but found his cat food recipes too high in grains and
At least one recipe uses no grains - meat feast or something like that.
Mostly ground turkey and supplements. That what I am currently using.
> I believe his recipes called for vegetable oil, rather than whole body
> fish oil (more bioavailable to a cat).
In one portion of his book he recommends, among others, Udo Choice oil
(omega 3 & 6 and essentials) together with cod liver oil. That's what I
use. He may well use vegetable oil in some recipes but I've not
investigated those.
Ken

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