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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / May 2007USING DEODERIZER IN LITTER BOX-HARMFUL TO CAT???
I recently had to put-down my 7 year old domestic short hair due to kidney failure. This was right around the time of the scare. The food was Iams, Weight Control w/hairball care-not on the list. I have another cat who's since been given the once-over by a vet, and all is fine. I have no reason to suspect the food. I ocassionally spray air freshner frebreze near and in the litter box in small quantities. Could this have killed my cat? The cat had been vomiting for at least a year. We thought nothing of it. Would chemicals such as these cause immediate illness or long-term degenerative ones like kidney failure. I'm feeling very guilty right now and need some closure. Am I right in thinking that liver failure would be caused first? I look forward to any and all responses. Thank you so much...Joe I'm sorry to learn about your kitty's passing. Please don't beat yourself up over using Febreze. I found this: http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/febreze.asp Did you have an autopsy done on your cat? Perhaps that could offer you some closure and a possible answer to his kidney failure. > I'm sorry to learn about your kitty's passing. Please don't beat > yourself up over using Febreze. I found this:http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/febreze.asp > > Did you have an autopsy done on your cat? Perhaps that could offer you > some closure and a possible answer to his kidney failure. Rene: Thanks so much for taking the time to reply to me. Ocassionally I would use Target Cinnamon, but, the end result, I cannot change. The vet. believes it was genetic. I didn't take the autopsy route..I would if I had the funding. I'm no stranger to ill cats. I had a cat with cancer and put him through the whole round of chemotherapy...only way I had to deal with the problem..his immune system ultimately stopped responding to the treatment and I had to put him down..it's tough...our pets are so dear to us..we'll do anything..I suppose I'm grasping at straws to blame myself...not that it does any good...thanks for the info. and kind thoughts..Joe >> I'm sorry to learn about your kitty's passing. Please don't beat >> yourself up over using Febreze. I found [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > anything..I suppose I'm grasping at straws to blame myself...not that > it does any good...thanks for the info. and kind thoughts..Joe It sounds like your kitty had the best parent he could have asked for! I am very sorry for your loss. I've lost close pets before, and I can empathize with you and your sadness. It's never easy losing ones' "furry kid", but time will pass, the ache will subside and the thought of your dear friend will bring only feelings of happiness. Beannachd dhut, Ryan > <jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thanks for your kind thoughts....I appreciate it..Joe On 3 May, 21:06, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: > > I'm sorry to learn about your kitty's passing. Please don't beat > > yourself up over using Febreze. I found this:http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/febreze.asp [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > anything..I suppose I'm grasping at straws to blame myself...not that > it does any good...thanks for the info. and kind thoughts..Joe Please don''t beat up on yourself. There is no point doing that, it brings you no answers or closure and only serves to make you feel guilty, which is ridiculous. It is plain as the nose on your face that he was much loved, & cancer & Cronic renal failure is something that even humans don't always get through. It serves "you" no purpose here! You did the kindest thing you could do for your cat, which was to let go of your faithful friend when you knew the time had come. I am more than certain that it had nothing to do with your deodoriser at all... When a cat goes into chronic renal failure it is because there is a problem with the kidneys...nothing else. Possibly the vomiting was due to the CRN, not the frebreze@all!! I can only tell you that I lost a much beloved cat to the same thing only last November. He was over 18 years old;older than most of my children were @ the time, so It crucified me to let him go, but It was better than continuing to watch him degenerate & loose his dignity any further. We had him put to sleep by our vet who allowed me to hold him as he passed away. It was ever so moving, but now that a little time has passed, I have stopped blaming myself & I recollect the good times far more often than the bad times..... I think this is what you need.. time to repair a broken heart. I can't tell you that it never hurts anymore, but I can tell you that time has reduced the pain & I think of him fondly every day. He took a piece of my heart when he crossed that Rainbow Bridge which is his to keep. No cat could ever replace him, or distract from him either.. But one day you will realise that you have love that you want to share with another friend who will love and comfort you mutually as would for them... You will know when that time arrives, by the love in your heart. Don't rush things, just think of him fondly... S;o) On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: > I recently had to put-down my 7 year old domestic short hair due to > kidney failure. This was right around the time of the scare. The [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I right in thinking that liver failure would be caused first? I look > forward to any and all responses. Thank you so much...Joe personally I would not use a deodoriser in my kitties litter tray, i just clean them out very regularly so no real need, and i do wonder whether releasing these strong deodorising chemicals ni the vicinity of a cat is really wise anyway. OK the producers of febreze have said that it is safe etc etc but i just think that kitty noses are extra sensitive to things and so are their constitutions and i would not want to assault their delicate senses with such artificial smells and synthetic freshening devices because I worry abotu the possible bad reactions they may cause. I just don't want to risk it. also even thuogh the maufacturers have said that they are perfectly safe for pets, how do they know in what quantites you are using them? the makers may not know that someone is practically immersing their home inthe stuff which cannot be good. Another thing which i wonder is whether there will be cats (and knowing my luck it will be one of my cats) who are allergic to the chemicals used in these products and produce a bad reaction as a result, after all humans show weird reactions and allergies to all sorts of stuff we deem 'safe' (I get very bad skin reactions to the glue on normal sticking plasters, god knows why). Whilst these products are labelled as safe for use with pets it may have been that your cat was particularly sensitive to it, who knows? Again, for this reason and others i would not use such products, I would not want my kitties to suffer any nasty adverse effects of chemicals I have used because of some paranoia about a few smells about the place (which to be honest are a good sign that it is about blooming time to change the kitty litter asap). this is probably not what you wanted to hear i am sure, but remember that i am not sayign that it was definitely the febreze, or that you killed your cat or intentionally had a hand in it or anything like that, but are you really sure you can trust the advice of a manufacturer who may not know how you are using their product and who also probably does not take into account the physiological idiosyncracies of particularly cats and dogs in response to their products? anyway it is still very sad and i feel for your loss, you could have an autopsy to get some answers but that obviously would not bring your kitty back. maybe next time just dont use these products if you are really worried? after all what is a few smells around the place. bookie (waiting for a barrage of abuse for airing her opinions on something) > On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > bookie (waiting for a barrage of abuse for airing her opinions on > something) > bookie (waiting for a barrage of abuse for airing her opinions on > something) ROFLOL, Not from me you won't!! Every single one of us is entitled to their own opinion & I find it refreshing to hear the voice of reason sometimes, especially from you!! Personally, I don't think that it had anything to do with the death of her cat, especially if they had already diagnosed her with renal failure.. but I do take on board your comments regarding a cats sense of smell being 10 x sharper than our own & the fact that they might not smell as nice to them as it does to us. My reasoning for this stems from asthma. I suffer from asthma & if anyone comes within a room away from me, I know when one has been used. It takes my breath away, literally..& I can taste it too. So, therefor if cats have to go through anything similar to that, then they have my sympathy.... Back to soap and warm water again... Is detol a safe antiseptic that can be used to clean a cat litter? <SIGH> S;o) > > On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > > - Show quoted text - not sure, anything phenylated is toxic to them though, so TCP (trichlorophenicol) is out of the question, but I woudln't use an antiseptic anyway I would use a disinfectant according to one book i have with me now, cetrimide disinfectants, quaternary ammonium compounds are ok, and the safest is dodecine so you would need to check the labels on things to see what they have, and dilute it well..I have used a well diluted solution of milton sterilising fluid in the past, after jasper died and before getting jessie as couldn't afford to buy new things, that seemed ok (well she is still here and in very rude health). things with iodine in them, hexachlorophene, phenols (such as TCP) and coaltar are NOT safe to use.. can't find any brand names as yet > > > On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > > - Show quoted text - How about Zoflora? Slightly less expensive, but also might be too whiffy? If I do have to use Milton's, I will. It was the cost bit that made me think twice... but most stores do their own versions of it, don't they? Have you any idea how many litter trays we have to put down here, ROFLOL..??!!#@? I calculated that next week we will have 6 @ any given time, possibly more if we have a finicky Kitty's too... That is quite a bit of milton's every other day, isn't it? Thanks for the advice regarding TCP BTW. When i was a child, I can remember my dad calling TCP, TOM CATS PISS, & He wasn't too far wrong there;o) S;o) > > > > On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > > - Show quoted text - have just got back from ASDA and whilst there i checked out what is in dettol, seems ok to me, also they do a clear version which leaves no smells and is labelled onthe back as safe for pet areas, shoudl be more gentle on little pusscats noses best to ask your vet though bookie > > > > > On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 128 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thanks very much for that one Bookie, appreciate that no end. I have just been there to resupply the army here & picked a bottle up so that I had some to do the weekly Yuk jobs.....I HATE Cleaning cat litters. <wuz - up, no one like the truth...?> It would seem that I must be the only person here that feels it necessary to clean the cat litters with as power hose & a quick wipe out with disinfectant? I don't know about your cats, but we certainly have a couple here who hit the damned side every time they go'#!? @??!!, which of course necessitates the need to wipe it down with something...& I used unscented baby wipes for that job...with diluted solution if it is a particularly messy nasty Biffy Whiffy one... <shiver..yucky..I can't help it> Then once a week it gets the once over. The old marigolds come out & I get to borrow Paul's latest prize toy, his "power" hose(lol!!;o)..It's much easier than the old method & does a Brill job on em.... <even the thought of it gives me the heeby gibby's> I might love all of them silly, but I don't have to likre the mess they make..to me that tantamount to saying you have to enjoy men farting & that is a definite FORGET IT!! S;o) >> > On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] >> <SIGH> >> S;o)- Hide quoted text - Dear Sweet Jesus. Let me know when the Idiot Convention has left town.  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > >> > On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > - Show quoted text - meaning what exactly? or are you disputing that TCP and other phenols and phenylated spirits ar toxic for cats? >> >> > On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] > meaning what exactly? or are you disputing that TCP and other phenols > and phenylated spirits ar toxic for cats? Pardon me. PMS sometimes makes everyone look like idiots to me. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > >> "bookie" <emily_boo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Your PMS has a lot to answer for... Sometimes you come across the same way, but I never feel the need to pick you up on it.However, today is one of those exceptions. Quite recently you insinuated that every ones IQ in the group was had gone down somewhat over the Easter Break, but I didn't feel the need to tell you to leave if you felt that way. It's rude, unnecessary & you can hurt peoples feelings. If you really have a problem with a poster, why not contact them privately about the issue instead of humiliating them globally? And no, I'm not having a biting session. I'm saying that no one likes their feelings hurt. I've had my fair share of humiliation, so I am speaking from experience. Nothing Else... S;o) > On 3 May, 19:33, jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > bookie (waiting for a barrage of abuse for airing her opinions on > something) Thank you to all for the wealth of information. Note, that I have another cat that was the exact same age that uses the same box. I had her checked out by a vet and she's in perfect health. This eases my mind slightly, that it wasn't the air freshner. Any thoughts from anyone on this? Thanks again..Joe > Thank you to all for the wealth of information. Note, that I have > another cat that was the exact same age that uses the same box. I had > her checked out by a vet and she's in perfect health. This eases my > mind slightly, that it wasn't the air freshner. Any thoughts from > anyone on this? Thanks again..Joe Please do not spray chemicals of any kind around your cat box. Be aware that they will ingest anything you do, they wash their paws with their tongue and teeth, right? If there is a problem with odor for more than the minute or two it takes the cat to eliminate, you need only scoop the box. > <jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > for more than the minute or two it takes the cat to eliminate, you > need only scoop the box. I agree, why on earth do you need to use air freshener? if the smell is bugging you clean the tray more often, dont use noxious chemicals around ickle noses > > <jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > is bugging you clean the tray more often, dont use noxious chemicals > around ickle noses Of course the best product is called "Elbow Grease"!! Old fashioned, but very effective. S;o) I try to never use any chemicals around my cats. I bought a steam cleaner to clean my floors so there's no chemical residue to worry about. I also never use any kind of air fresheners. Who wants to smell chemicals? White vinegar is also a great (and safe cleaner). This site is about essential oils and toxicity to cats, but it also gives a good idea on how cats have trouble metabolizing such substances. http://www.thelavendercat.bigstep.com/generic.html > <jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > for more than the minute or two it takes the cat to eliminate, you > need only scoop the box. Also, remember a cat's sense of smell is like a thousand times more sensitive than ours. Some of that stuff is so perfumey--just imagine how noxious it smells to the cat. I never use anything in the box--scoop it often, change it regularly, use a good quality litter and it won't stink. People say that using a hooded box that has a charcoal filter helps, if your cat doesn't object to the hood. I never use anything in the box. Mine all use the box faithfully, never go outside of it. I just never wanted to mess with a good thing. Sherry > <jgreenfiel...@yahoo.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > for more than the minute or two it takes the cat to eliminate, you > need only scoop the box. I agree... |
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