Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2007
Update - melamine in Natural Balance food - more products pulled
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buglady - 18 Apr 2007 00:35 GMT USA Today article: http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2007-04-17-premium-pet-food-recalle d_N.htm But Natural Balance doesn’t use wheat gluten, the ingredient contaminated with melamine in the Menu recall. Instead, it suspects that melamine was in a rice protein concentrate, a new ingredient used in the dry foods, said Natural Balance president Joey Herrick. “That was the only change in the product,” he says.
Dog treats and Dog canned formula added http://tinyurl.com/2up6ol * Venison and Brown Rice Treats for Dogs (New today) * Venison and Brown Rice Canned Formula for Dogs (New today) * Venison and Brown Rice Dry Food for Dogs (Reported Sunday) * Venison and Green Pea Dry Food for Cats (Reported Sunday)
There is no rice protein concentrate listed on the bag of dry NB dog food. There IS ground rice though (At least there wasn't last weekend - reports are they may have changed it on the web.) . And there's that 6 month lag in changing labeling after the forumla is changed. There is NO rice in the dry cat food. When they described their catfood they said Whole pea, but in the ingredients it said pea. Pea powder is available.
One word of caution. South Africa has been having problems with their pet food also. They had antifreeze contamination of Woolworth brand dry food in Feb-March. (But you know, from what I read they had to test the food twice to find antifreeze. Now I wonder if it didn't have melamine also.) A number of days ago Royal Canin pulled their large breed Puppy formula due to vomiting and kidney problems. I think they have now pulled all their products but don't remember.
There is NO wheat gluten or rice protein concentrate (read same as gluten) in the large breed puppy formula. Instead there is corn gluten. I'm hoping in a couple of days they'll have a report on the food. My guess is they'll find melamine.
So all I can say is buyer beware. Gluten gluten who's got the gluten. Call your company. Find out; where their products come from. Ask them if they've had a formula change lately. Demand they get on the ball and quit changing food without changing the label. Meanwhile go buy a book on how to prepare your own pet food. At this rate it will come in handy.
way beyond disgust...... buglady take out the dog before replying
PawsForThought - 18 Apr 2007 01:34 GMT > USA Today article:http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2007-04-17-premium-pet-food-... > d_N.htm Geez. It seems like almost every day there's another food recalled. I was reading where they're not even sure it's melamine causing the problem. Guess this conference won't be going so well:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/nearwest/chi-0704160424apr17,1,3212403. story?coll=chi-newslocalnearwest-hed
Lynne - 18 Apr 2007 01:38 GMT on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:35:46 GMT, "buglady" <buglady99@bigfootdog.com> wrote:
> So all I can say is buyer beware. Gluten gluten who's got the gluten. > Call your company. Find out; where their products come from. Ask > them if they've had a formula change lately. Demand they get on the > ball and quit changing food without changing the label. Meanwhile go > buy a book on how to prepare your own pet food. At this rate it will > come in handy. OMFG...
 Signature Lynne
Sandy McDermin - 18 Apr 2007 02:45 GMT > USA Today article: > http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2007-04-17-premium-pet-food-recalle [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > to > prepare your own pet food. At this rate it will come in handy. Geez, I have two CANS of Natural Balance Venison and Green Pea cat food. Should I not feed it to them for fear that it will also end up on a recall list within the next week?
Sandy
cindys - 18 Apr 2007 03:22 GMT >> USA Today article: >> http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2007-04-17-premium-pet-food-recalle [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> * Venison and Brown Rice Dry Food for Dogs (Reported Sunday) >> * Venison and Green Pea Dry Food for Cats (Reported Sunday) snip
> Geez, I have two CANS of Natural Balance Venison and Green Pea cat food. > Should I not feed it to them for fear that it will also end up on a recall > list within the next week? ------- I wouldn't if I were you. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
Sandy McDermin - 18 Apr 2007 04:03 GMT >>> USA Today article: >>> http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2007-04-17-premium-pet-food-recalle [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Best regards, > ---Cindy S. Since I can't read the miniscule print on the back of cat food cans, this is what Petfood Direct says is the ingredient list on the back of the CANNED Venison and Pea cat food:
Ingredients: Venison, Venison Broth, Venison Liver, Pea Flour, Venison Meal, Salmon Oil, Dicalcium Phosphate, Kelp, Flaxseed, Guar Gum, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Potassium Chloride, Methionine, Taurine, Parsley, Dried Cranberries, Yucca Schidigera, Sodium Chloride, Carrageenan, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Sulfate,Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Sodium Selenite, Thiamine Mononitrate, Calcium Pantothenate, Calcium Iodate,Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin, Vitamin A Supplement,Folic Acid, Vitamin K Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12.
I'm not a scientist, but is any of this rice gluten?
Sandy
buglady - 18 Apr 2007 04:20 GMT > Since I can't read the miniscule print on the back of cat food cans, this is > what Petfood Direct says is the ingredient list on the back of the CANNED [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I'm not a scientist, but is any of this rice gluten? .........go to natural balance website - they've CHANGED all the ingredients to reflect what's in it. Who knows WHEN they did it. www.naturalbalanceinc.com I think the website now says rice protein concentrate for all those they recalled. They are claiming it's only the last and latest batch that was affected, but they're recalling all cans of those types. At least they know how to cover their a**es when the barn door's open. You'll have to CALL them, give them your UPC code and ask them WHAT was in that batch. The phones may be a bit busy, to say the least.........
For pesticides the LABEL is the LAW. For pet food the LABEL is a LIE.
buglady take out the dog before replying
Sandy McDermin - 18 Apr 2007 04:42 GMT >> Since I can't read the miniscule print on the back of cat food cans, this > is [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > buglady > take out the dog before replying I still don't see rice in it:
http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/catformulas/NB_CatCanned.html#Venison
You know, even if I put this out in a bowl for them, they wouldn't eat it. They hate all this natural catfood and I'm really finding it hard to replace some of the things that are being recalled. Fortunately, they love Fancy Feast. What about Whiskas? Is that okay? I was looking at Sheba the other day and it says that it's only a supplement. You can't feed your cat on it. I guess because it has none of those added nutritional ingredients that are killing the animals.
Just kidding. I know there is a difference between gluten and vitamin enrichment or taurine.
Sandy
cindys - 18 Apr 2007 05:28 GMT > "buglady" <buglady99@bigfootdog.com> wrote in message snip
>> For pesticides the LABEL is the LAW. For pet food the LABEL is a LIE. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/catformulas/NB_CatCanned.html#Venison ---------- When Buglady said "the label is a lie" she meant that the label might not accurately reflect what is in the food.
Once upon a time, about 15 years ago, this happened to me with spaghetti sauce. I would always read the label to make sure the sauce didn't contain any cheese. One time, I bought a jar of a new brand sauce that I hadn't tried before (which didn't contain cheese). My husband and I really liked the sauce, so the following week, I bought another jar of the identical thing. When I was cooking with it, I read the label and saw that it contained cheese! I phoned the company to see what was going on and ask why they had started to add cheese to the product. They told me they had in fact actually *eliminated* the cheese from the product six months earlier, but that labels were expensive to print, so they were using up the old labels, and I must have picked up a jar with one of the old labels! They asked me what was the serial number on the jar. When I told them, they confirmed that I had picked up a jar with one of the old labels, and the sauce did not contain cheese (in contrast to what it said on the label).... Even then, it must have been illegal to do that, but the point is that that was for a human food product. How much more so for a pet food! Best regards, ---Cindy S.
buglady - 18 Apr 2007 11:39 GMT I phoned the company to see what was going on and ask why
> they had started to add cheese to the product. They told me they had in fact > actually *eliminated* the cheese from the product six months earlier, but > that labels were expensive to print, so they were using up the old labels, .........how many people bother to call? I guess I shouldn't be amazed that this happened (still happens?) in people food too.
buglady take out the dog before replying
cindys - 18 Apr 2007 12:51 GMT > I phoned the company to see what was going on and ask why >> they had started to add cheese to the product. They told me they had in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that > this happened (still happens?) in people food too. ----- I'm not sure if it still happens with people food as there are truth in labeling laws, but the incident I described occurred a little over 15 years ago, and I thought there were truth in labeling laws even then. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
PawsForThought - 18 Apr 2007 15:36 GMT I read the label and saw that it
> contained cheese! I phoned the company to see what was going on and ask why > they had started to add cheese to the product. They told me they had in fact > actually *eliminated* the cheese from the product six months earlier, but > that labels were expensive to print, so they were using up the old labels, What would happen if someone had a severe allergy to cheese and it wasn't on the label?! I have a very severe allergy to fish so I always read the labels. I was going to buy a chicken and noodle dish but they did list on the label that it had seafood in the sauce.
Now with this petfood recall, it is imperative that they have accurate and current labels on all their food. Waiting 6 months to change the label is totally unacceptable!
blkcatgal - 18 Apr 2007 04:36 GMT The Natural Balance website says that the canned venison and peas cat food is not affected. I have about a case of the canned food. But I won't be feeding it to my cats anytime soon. I read the small print and there is no mention of rice protein concentrate, rice gluten, etc. I think this is something they recently added to the dry food. Which is beyond me...why would you add another protein source to a limited ingredient food? I'm very disappointed with Natural Balance.
Sue
>>>> USA Today article: >>>> http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2007-04-17-premium-pet-food-recalle [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Sandy Cheryl - 18 Apr 2007 03:18 GMT > There is NO wheat gluten or rice protein concentrate (read same > as gluten) in the large breed puppy formula. Instead there is > corn gluten. I'm hoping in a couple of days they'll have a > report on the food. My guess is they'll find melamine. I'm starting to see reports that food will be recalled that contains rice and corn gluton, too. I keep reading that gluton is used for how they process gravy, but I think the gluton is where the protein is, and how pet food companies can "up" the protein content without adding more meat? I don't know. Just comes to mind from reading here for so long.
Here's a scary quote from an author, Ann Martin (author of "Food Pets Die For ... Shocking Facts About Pet Food," ) - someone who tried to post here a while back until she got attacked:
"When ConsumerAffairs.com contacted Martin late Monday night about Natural Balance's recall, she said: "I had heard about this yesterday morning and can't figure out what the heck is going on. If there is something wrong with this food, and it is one of the top foods on the market, I will just forget telling people what foods they should feed their pets. This is very upsetting. "
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