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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2007Understanding cause and effect (and cystitis again, dammit!)
Had this errant thought when I was taking Meep to the vet today... Fact 1: Cats hide their illnesses as much as they can. Fact 2: When good cat owners notice their cat is ill, they take the cat to the vet. The errant thought I had was, I wonder if domestic cats hide their illness, not (only) because of some instinctive imperative, but because they know that if their human(s) notice, they'll be taken to that awful place where strange-smelling humans do uncomfortable things to them? Anyway, Woke up early hours to Meep digging. Not unusual, until I heard her digging again. And again. And again. Sure enough, despite a diet of half Royal Canin SO, plenty of water all over the house (which she does drink), glucosamine everyday, and wet food with added water every night (not anything on the recall list), she still has blood in her urine today. Damn! She hates pills, but we've got another 10-day course of antibiotics to suffer through. Poor kitty. Probably the stress from the move, but she didn't have an attack when we moved countries, why now, when we only moved a few blocks? jmc > Poor kitty. Probably the stress from the move, but she didn't have an > attack when we moved countries, why now, when we only moved a few blocks? > > jmc I agree about cats putting 2 and 2 together.. so they hide their pain. Meep, where are you getting your water from? you know city and well water can be very hard. I don't know what all makes water hard.. so Im guessing, calcium, lime, iron etc... This happens a lot in humans. In nature.. cats wouldn't drink that much h2o right? not straight.. but their water comes from eating innards. (which is highly filtered water). Suddenly, without warning, Barry exclaimed (13-Apr-07 9:20 PM): >> Poor kitty. Probably the stress from the move, but she didn't have an >> attack when we moved countries, why now, when we only moved a few blocks? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > but their water comes from eating innards. (which is highly filtered > water). All of Meep's water is from Britta filters, because the water here is extremely hard. Well, Meep won't touch innards (or even outards), so she's gotta get her water the hard way; getting enuf water is critical in a cystitis-prone cat. That's one of my worries - she's been drinking plenty of water - but still is having problems. She's passive and internalizes stress, and I think that probably predisposes her to problems. I drink mostly the Britta water as well, though not always. jmc > Well, Meep won't touch innards (or even outards) Yes, I know Jodi lol I eat innards! livers gizzards neck bones, collards etc I'm sorry it's more of this for her... why not resolve to change her diet. her water source and her food. I would. I think you should. Love deep fried Gizzards. I think I will get some will I spend all day and night in Tampa and Lakeland today. On the road again ;-) >> Well, Meep won't touch innards (or even outards) > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > why not resolve to change her diet. > her water source and her food. I would. I think you should. > On the road again ;-) Turn the page >> On the road again ;-) > > Turn the page That works for a while. But the book eventually comes to and end, and all you've got is a suckass book full of very sad pages. > >> On the road again ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to and end, and all you've got is a suckass book full of > very sad pages. I am so sick of being your bitch, I put up with your a.s because I knew how much pain you we're in! but it's enough! It's a tall order for a patient mutherfucker, and I was the closest thing you are ever going to lay eyes on. >> >> On the road again ;-) >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It's a tall order for a patient mutherfucker, and I was the closest > thing you are ever going to lay eyes on. Oh, I'm sorry, did I play too rough? lol >> >> On the road again ;-) >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It's a tall order for a patient mutherfucker, and I was the closest > thing you are ever going to lay eyes on. Meanwhile, I was just commenting on your "turn the page" philosophy. You have things to fix, we all do. Hiding your head in the sand or "turning the page" as you put it, is why you are where you are today. As for the rest of it? I hate to tell you AGAIN Barry, but you're wrong. You got it wrong. AGAIN. And it's nobody's fault but yours. Now go ahead and turn this page. Anyone who calls horseshit HORSESHIT when they see it is nobody you want to know. And you are nobody I want to know. Now surprise us all by berating me with all that impressive rage you seem to think is so damned sexy. That's all you want anything with a pulse for anyway. Suddenly, without warning, Barry exclaimed (14-Apr-07 8:22 PM): >> Well, Meep won't touch innards (or even outards) > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > why not resolve to change her diet. > her water source and her food. I would. I think you should. To what? I'm open to suggestions. She gets Britta filtered water at 3 different locations - one's a drinkwell. She gets Royal Canin urinary control + Iams Mature dry, a bit more RC than the Iams. She gets as much canned food as she'll eat, which isn't much. I add water and glucosamine (greater than the suggested dose) to her food. She gets additional dl-methonine if she starts showing signs of discomfort. Aside from going back to 100% veterinary S/O, just not sure what else I can do for her. jmc > Suddenly, without warning, Barry exclaimed (14-Apr-07 8:22 PM): > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > jmc yeah, you're right... I bet the diet is fine I've been reading a little bit Now I see why you mention stress.. as.. stress can lower immunities.. thus.. allowing a bladder infection do your cat get any sunshine? Suddenly, without warning, Barry exclaimed (15-Apr-07 11:44 PM): >> Suddenly, without warning, Barry exclaimed (14-Apr-07 8:22 PM): >>> why not resolve to change her diet. >>> her water source and her food. I would. I think you should. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > do your cat get any sunshine? We live in Australia. 'nuf said :) She gets as much sunshine as she wants in the windows, and gets plenty on the weekends (she's outdoors only under supervision). So, no Vitamin D deficiency. jmc > Suddenly, without warning, Barry exclaimed (15-Apr-07 11:44 PM): > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > jmc cool beans I don't know anything about bladder infections.. I know in women if they have short uretha tube or something like that... they can get them more often... something bout wiping their butts from the wrong direction > I drink mostly the Britta water as well, though not always. > > jmc Maybe she is deficient in a chemical. are cystitis crystals water soluble? try adding some fat to her diet, that's what soap is made of .. fat this will help clean her pee pee lol > Had this errant thought when I was taking Meep to the vet today... > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > jmc Good thought.....I've read that instinctually they hide illness to avoid appearing "weak" as a survival instinct, but it wouldn't surprise me they could do the same thing to 'avoid a vet trip. Yoda went to the vet last week. After being treated with the eye drops just *twice*...he learned to avoid me if I have anything in my hand. Hope your kitty improves fast, that surely is very uncomfortable for her. Barry had a good thought re: filtered water. Surely that would be better for the cats than tap water. Sherry |
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