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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2007Fancy Feast - Goods Sales Ploy
I had to go stock up on food for the girls. Before going to Wal-Mart I told DH that I wouldn't be surprised if Fancy Feast had gone up alarmingly in price from the usual US$0.45 per 3.5oz can. I was pleasantly surprised when I found that FF had gone *DOWN* in price to US$0.40 per 3.5ox can! Then I got to thinking about it - what a great sales ploy this was by someone on Purina's staff. There are now untold numbers of pet owners looking for an alternate food since their regular brand has been recalled. By coming down in price, Purina can entice them to buy/try Fancy Feast instead. They could get hundreds of thousands of new customers in the short term. In the long term? Well, anyone who has tried it knows that once you've given your cats Fancy Feast they'll turn their noses up at anything else ever again (FF has been nicknamed here in this group and elsewhere "kitty crack" because it is so addictive). Once they've hooked all those new suck... erm, buyers, they can then go up on their prices and really make a fortune! Hugs, CatNipped >I had to go stock up on food for the girls. Before going to Wal-Mart I >told DH that I wouldn't be surprised if Fancy Feast had gone up alarmingly >in price from the usual US$0.45 per 3.5oz can. I was pleasantly surprised >when I found that FF had gone *DOWN* in price to US$0.40 per 3.5ox can! Only in Houston! ;) Just kidding, but I do have such fond memories of Houston. Here, FF has gone up, unless we are just lagging behind. By the way, my Petfoodirect order came with a bunch of $1 off coupons for FF "gold" dry, I think it is called. If anyone can use them, email me a mailing address. >>I had to go stock up on food for the girls. Before going to Wal-Mart I >>told DH that I wouldn't be surprised if Fancy Feast had gone up alarmingly [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > $1 off coupons for FF "gold" dry, I think it is called. If > anyone can use them, email me a mailing address. I would but.... I was using FF "gold" dry as cat treats since my four don't go for "Pounce" or any of the usual suspects. They practically sit up and beg for this, though. The trouble is, I can't give any FF "gold" dry to any of my other cats without giving Sammy at least twice as much or more. If I give her the same amount she'll vaccum up her share and then "nose out" her sisters and eat theirs - and even with double or more a share she still finishes before her sisters and will have to be distracted or restrained from gobbling up theirs as well. Giving Sammy that much "treat" has definitely added some unneeded ounces to her middle, so I've quit giving them treats altogether (this is hard to do since Sammy will come along and "bite" me or DH to get attention and then gaze soulfully at us to the point of *almost* making her 18+ pound girth look like the image of a starving waif!!! ;>). You might try giving this as a treat to your underweight baby (Gracie, not Boo, right?), I bet this would put a few ounces on her as well. Hugs, CatNipped > I would but.... I was using FF "gold" dry as cat treats since my four > don't go for "Pounce" or any of the usual suspects. They practically sit [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > underweight baby (Gracie, not Boo, right?), I bet this would put a few > ounces on her as well. So they're good, eh? Maybe I'll try some for Gracie. Although, I think she's meant to be pretty skinny. She has kind of a Siamese build. Nice to hear from you! >> I would but.... I was using FF "gold" dry as cat treats since my four >> don't go for "Pounce" or any of the usual suspects. They practically sit [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > So they're good, eh? Maybe I'll try some for Gracie. Yep, and I've read the list of ingredients *VERY* carefully - it contains *NO* wheat, wheat gluten, or any other wheat byproducts! > Although, I think she's > meant to be pretty skinny. Yep, some cats are (I guess there's no reason there can't be endomorphic or ectomorphic cats too, just like humans). DH and I joke that Demi has anorexia nervosa (a typical "dumb blonde" valley girl obsessed with her petite figure) - if it weren't for her long, *LONG* hair I don't think she would cast a shadow! ;> > She has kind of a Siamese build. Nice to hear from > you! Yep, it's been a while - I've been too busy trying to put my life back together to take time to cull the wheat from the chaff here in rpch+b (OK, OK that was a bad analogy right now). Anyway, how the heck are you? Hugs, CatNipped Fancy Feast Gold is made in very little pieces. My cat loves them - and yes, you are correct! No wheat gluten! I wonder why people even feed their cats Fancy Feast. It's nothing but garbage.  SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com >I had to go stock up on food for the girls. Before going to Wal-Mart I >told DH that I wouldn't be surprised if Fancy Feast had gone up alarmingly [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > CatNipped on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:04:55 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote: > I wonder why people even feed their cats Fancy Feast. It's nothing but > garbage. Post proof of your monotanous friggen claims, or STFU already. SignatureLynne > on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:04:55 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Post proof of your monotanous friggen claims, or STFU already. CP's a maroon. :) > CP's a maroon. :) I know, I know. Sometimes I like to poke the dimwit. SignatureLynne >> CP's a maroon. :) > > I know, I know. Sometimes I like to poke the dimwit. Old saying don't poke the bear unless you got a big gun. Go get him Lynne >> on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:11:40 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Old saying don't poke the bear unless you got a big gun. Go get him Lynne Hee! CP's not a bear. He's a poodle with a partial lobotomy. I couldn't give a rat's behind what you think of me. You just don't like it when someone not only speaks the truth but has a different opinion other than yours. I'm reminded by your responses that those who aren't a part of your clique are the enemy. I feel very sorry for the cats you supposedly represent. You all need to grow up and act like adults and thus be able to have an adult conversation. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > I know, I know. Sometimes I like to poke the dimwit. on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:40:16 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote: > I couldn't give a rat's behind what you think of me. You just don't > like it when someone not only speaks the truth but has a different > opinion other than yours. I'm reminded by your responses that those > who aren't a part of your clique are the enemy. I feel very sorry for > the cats you supposedly represent. You all need to grow up and act > like adults and thus be able to have an adult conversation. Uh, pardon me, but I don't have a clique here. I've both disagreed and agreed with the regulars here on a variety of topics. Just so you know, those of us who have decided you are a moron have come to that conclusion for obvious reasons and independently of each other. SignatureLynne > on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:40:16 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > to > that conclusion for obvious reasons and independently of each other. Hahaha! Well said. As for proving CP wrong about FF being "crap" a simple comparison of the ingredients in what he thinks is good food and FF would do it. I cannot be bothered. I am busy teaching a pig to sing. (That would be you, NickAndrewsChunkyStyle.) > on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:40:16 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotec...@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > -- > Lynne QUOTE: And who said usenet can't change minds.... (Lynne) Lynne is a very active member of this group for many years & has challenged many views of other users & will not agree with you for the sake of keeping the peace. She will tell you the truth as she See's it, & if you come up with the right reason, she has the good grace to agree with you. If not, she won't. S;o) > Lynne is a very active member of this group for many years & has > challenged many views of other users & will not agree with you for the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > she won't. > S;o) did you know you actually replied to Lynne? I figure your post was to CP and how do you know about Lynne and her "many years" lol EVERYBODY WANTS STABILITY AND REGULARITY AND ACCEPTANCE lol YOU GOTTA LOVE ME S > > Lynne is a very active member of this group for many years & has > > challenged many views of other users & will not agree with you for the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > YOU GOTTA LOVE ME S Yes, I used her post as my platform to shout from... CP has a big problem with everyone calling him uninformed & when he promotes a point, he can't back it up... On that basis I made my post... I quoted Lynne from a post that she made that I will never forget, pointing out that information gained here is all the more useful if you can not only back it up...or admit when you are wrong too. CP, doesn't seem to have this quality which was all I was trying to point out, was that Lynne does accept when she is wrong (which is hardly ever incidentally..) It is a pity that he hasn't got the balls to do the same.. S;o) on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:07 GMT, "sheelagh" > Lynne does accept when she is wrong (which is hardly > ever incidentally..) Hahaha! I'm wrong a lot!! But yes, I will admit it without hesitation. Only stupid people think they know everything. SignatureLynne > > Lynne is a very active member of this group for many years & has > > challenged many views of other users & will not agree with you for the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > YOU GOTTA LOVE ME S I did my homework lol... Love you..? Of course Barry, fancy questioning it... S;o) I have added the idiot to the flushed file he is dumb and dangerous to much of the god syndrome in his blood > on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:40:16 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > to > that conclusion for obvious reasons and independently of each other. > I couldn't give a rat's behind what you think of me. You just don't like > it when someone not only speaks the truth but has a different opinion > other than yours. I'm reminded by your responses that those who aren't a > part of your clique are the enemy. I feel very sorry for the cats you > supposedly represent. You all need to grow up and act like adults and > thus be able to have an adult conversation. So what specifically is wrong with Fancy Feast, and what should people buy instead? Charlie I've always subscribed to the more holistic brands for my cats diet. There are several on the market. I use Blue Buffalo Spa Select for my cats but there are others like Avoderm as well. The problem with Fancy Feast is it's loaded with by-products and additives. This can be very bad for your cats diet overall. It would be the equivalent to us eating junk food every day. Our vet says one of the biggest things he sees in his office is overweight animals. Many of them the result of either overeating or because their humans decided to keep buying the cheap brands to feed their cats. Urinary Tract Infection is just one ailment caused mostly by poor diet. One of my cats has had a UTI and after switching to the Spa Select for his food he's doing remarkably well. One of my other cats had a hairball and weight issue and she too is doing well on it. She hasn't hacked up too many hairballs and her weight has dropped to a more manageable level. I recommend people start reading labels. They'll find much healthier brands out there. I'd go to your local Petsmart and take a can of Fancy Feast and a can of Blue and read both labels. You will definately see a big difference in the quality of the two. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > >> I couldn't give a rat's behind what you think of me. You just don't like [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Charlie > I've always subscribed to the more holistic brands for my cats diet. Oh, yeah. You always did, CP. You discovered Special Kitty was 25 cents a can, and you fell on your knees and sang hosannas right here on this newsgroup. We tried to convince you THEN about more spending a little more and feeding a decent food, and you just argued about it. NOW you're claiming Fancy FEast is crap food, but you can't quite seem to come up with any comparisons. Don't you understand why no one here quite wants to take your word as the authority on cat food? You've been asked (several times) to back up your claims. Are you just not able to do that? Sherry There > are several on the market. I use Blue Buffalo Spa Select for my cats but > there are others like Avoderm as well. The problem with Fancy Feast is it's [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > > I've always subscribed to the more holistic brands for my cats diet. > > Oh, yeah. You always did, CP. You discovered Special Kitty was 25 > cents > a can, and you fell on your knees and sang hosannas right here on this > newsgroup. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lmao Sherri, I knew he was just touting to get "something more for his money" In fact, I bet he feeds them that 25c fancy cat you mention >> I've always subscribed to the more holistic brands for my cats diet. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > just not able to do that? > Sherry I think his short-term memory is shot. I think CP has turned the page. lol > I think his short-term memory is shot. I think CP has turned the page. > > lol it's from my 1972 album, it's about being on the road, it's called, turn the page. but you got it in for any successful male don't you bono, seger, stewart, even the freakin king AND THE BOSS i've done heard it all > Oh, yeah. You always did, CP. You discovered Special Kitty was 25 > cents > a can, and you fell on your knees and sang hosannas right here on this > newsgroup. Haha!! I just have to applaud your use of imagery there! Most excellent. > We tried to convince you THEN about more spending a > little more and feeding a decent food, and you just argued about it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You've been asked (several times) to back up your claims. Are you > just not able to do that? I don't think he can. When are the slow going to learn that repeating the same thing over and over is never going to make it true? SignatureLynne > I've always subscribed to the more holistic brands for my cats diet. WTF??? Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you feeding them Friskies for a long time? Didn't you in fact protest whenever anyone tried to educate you to feed them a better diet, especially since you have a crystal prone kitty? Aren't you still feeding that crystal prone kitty a dry food diet? I'm glad you're feeding them better brands now, but I don't really think you're in a position to knock people for feeding Fancy Feast. I fed my cats a lot of different brands even holistic ones. When one of my cats came down with a UTI, I ended up going totally holistic which was a long time ago. Regardless, I'm getting pretty tired of all the abuse going on here on this list. It seems many here can't go 1 minute without trying to abuse someone or call them names. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com >> I've always subscribed to the more holistic brands for my cats diet. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I'm glad you're feeding them better brands now, but I don't really > think you're in a position to knock people for feeding Fancy Feast. > I fed my cats a lot of different brands even holistic ones. When one of my > cats came down with a UTI, I ended up going totally holistic which was a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!www.catgalaxymedia.com OK, CP, now you're just telling whoppers. I remember when Icarus came down with a UTI and you fed him Science Diet prescription. I also remember you switching them to Purina One. I remember this specifically because I was impressed you made the jump all the way from Special Kitty to P1. That was NOT more than a year ago you were feeding Purina One. Don't make me google again. Neither Science Diet nor Purina One are "holistic" foods. What's your definition of holistic anyway? Sherry > I recommend people start reading labels. .........wouldn't do them a whit of good. Right now the labels don't reflect any kind of reality, just advertising. buglady take out the dog before replying > I couldn't give a rat's behind what you think of me. You just don't like it > when someone not only speaks the truth well you're full of sh.t you've been brainwashed by your fav vendor how come my cats are healthy? hmmm? from eating garbage? you got a serious brain damage goin on there Brainwashed. I don't think so. I actually read labels and with a cat having a UTI I'm glad I went the holistic route. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com >> I couldn't give a rat's behind what you think of me. You just don't like >> it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > you got a serious brain damage goin on there > Brainwashed. I don't think so. I actually read labels and with a cat having > a UTI I'm glad I went the holistic route. You have no proof other than your vendors claims. My cats DONT have uti's never have! so, imo, my regular shelf brand food is better! price is not always an indicator. thing is.. you show up once ever 3 months, call purina etc.. "garbage"... brag about your high dollar sh.t, then defend it. your cats immunities are not up to par dear consider getting them off the blue ball food... get a big bag of chunky dog food. IT'S ALL JUST CORNMEAL.. IF YOU READ THE LABEL YOU WOULD KNOW THIS. crack the bag.. lay it on it's side.. when "sicky" gets hungry, she'll eat it and love it. How do I know? cause mine eat every freakin thing I put down! peas, cabbage, spinach.. whatever! they love it! and they are shiny, vibrant, healthy.. etc! AND THEY sh.t OUTSIDE! you actually read labels? pfft! you read what they want you to read. You're just whimpering because you've spent mo money than most of us. AND your damn cat is still sick. it's that nasty "un-fresh" CRAP no.. GARBAGE you feed them. For fresh food, buy a popular brand. Not some MOM POP horse, hoof, and balls basement operation. you're probably their only customer they are why your cat is sick.. the food is nasty whew There used to be a time when this group could have a peaceful conversation without name calling and the like. Those days because of you and your followers, this group has been ruined. I guess some people can't handle the fact that the food they're feeding their cats is not healthy. When your cats have problems because they are overweight after eating Fancy Feast or any of the other number of foods which are all filler and no-thriller remind me to say "I told you so." SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > >> on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:04:55 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > CP's a maroon. :) on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:36:50 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote: > There used to be a time when this group could have a peaceful > conversation without name calling and the like. Those days because of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > foods which are all filler and no-thriller remind me to say "I told > you so." And still you post no PROOF of your claims. Bring it on, prove what you state. If you have proof and will share it, then you will be doing cat lovers a public service. Seriously! If you don't have proof, then I invite you, again, to STFU about it already. SignatureLynne > on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:36:50 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > lovers a public service. Seriously! If you don't have proof, then I > invite you, again, to STFU about it already. "all filler and not thriller." :D Ok you want proof. I invite you to read the labels between the holistic brands and FF. You will see a big difference in quality. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:36:50 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > lovers a public service. Seriously! If you don't have proof, then I > invite you, again, to STFU about it already. > Ok you want proof. I invite you to read the labels between the holistic > brands and FF. You will see a big difference in quality. Telling someone to read the labels of "holistic" foods and FF is not proof - if for no other reason than you do not specify *WHICH* "holistic cat food you mean. There are dozens of brands of "holistic" food offered, each with a different set of ingredients, but most of them carp that's labeled "holistic" to dupe fools like you. Also, I have serious doubts that you shell out the bucks for a decent diet for your cats when I've read your posts about "cost saving", some about cat food: http://tinyurl.com/2z7gr6, some about using the Humane Society for your cats' vacs so you wouldn't have to pay the cost of an physical examination, http://tinyurl.com/25vlsl, some about using human toothpaste to save a buck on cat toothpaste: http://tinyurl.com/2a2h94, and I quote: "I am now attempting to get in the habit of brushing my cats teeth and am wondering if I can use a regular toothbrush and what non-harmful toothpaste I can use for them? I would buy the toothpaste they have at Petsmart but they wanted a little too much money. Can our human toothpaste be used for cats?" You then went on for several posts defending your cheapness. Finally, tell me *EXACTLY* what brand of "holistic" cat food you mean and *THEN* I will be able to read for myself the differences in quality. Until then you have not proved that you know your a.s from a hole in the ground. I, on the other hand, *HAVE* read the labels of the foods I feem my cats, Fancy Feast "pate" varieties - and I've posted it here at least a few times (http://www.possibleplaces.com/fancy_feast_values/), but since you seem incapable of learning, I don't guess posting it again here will do the least bit of good. CatNipped > http://tinyurl.com/2z7gr6, some about using the Humane Society for > your cats' vacs so you wouldn't have to pay the cost of an physical [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > they wanted a little too much money. Can our human toothpaste be used for > cats?" You then went on for several posts defending your cheapness. damn woman, lol Hello CatNipped. I love your site! Sammy is a huuuuge cat. I bet he's one big hug. >> http://tinyurl.com/2z7gr6, some about using the Humane Society for >> your cats' vacs so you wouldn't have to pay the cost of an physical [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I love your site! Sammy is a huuuuge cat. I bet he's one big hug. *She* (Sammy is short for Samantha) is huge - we don't call her Samazon for nothing! ;> Regarding CP - he's an a.s and most sensible people here have him killfiled (guess that means I'm not sensible, but then again unlike CP I don't claim to be all-knowing and all-powerful!!!). Hugs, CatNipped >> Ok you want proof. I invite you to read the labels between the holistic >> brands and FF. You will see a big difference in quality. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > for your cats when I've read your posts about "cost saving", some about > cat food: http://tinyurl.com/2z7gr6, And I find this, written by CP in the above referenced thread, particularly ironic given his initial response to my post!!!! ;> "It seems every time we have the food debate some people act like snobs by saying their foods are better and that those who feed their cats a certain brand they feel aren't as good are picked on or not ok. I think we should drop the food subject because all it does is create a flame war." Hugs, CatNipped > And I find this, written by CP in the above referenced thread, > particularly ironic given his initial response to my post!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > brand they feel aren't as good are picked on or not ok. I think we should > drop the food subject because all it does is create a flame war." Hypocrisy, one of the hallmarks of stupidity. Like someone who has lied to you from the first day complaining that you lied to them. "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> Again you have no facts to back up your statements. While I can make a statement about nutrition for I have first hand experience while you are talking out your a@@. My Rumble is on Fancy Feast due to his diabetes. He is perfect weight and his health is overall excellent. His diabetes has been under control due to the fancy feast diet he is on. All the others brands including your "healthy choice ones" did not work. So file that one as you put your foot in your mouth. CP you might have good intentions but even the best intentions don't always make a right. "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote" > CP you might have good intentions but even the best intentions don't > always make a right. He doesn't have good intentions. He's a malicious idiot who has not even researched cat food. Now then, below is the nutrition breakdown for Tender Beef Feast, a popular FF flavor. Will someone who does not have the maroon CatProtector killfiled ask the little twit what he thinks is quality food? BEEF, BEEF BROTH, LIVER, FISH, MEAT BY-PRODUCTS, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, GUAR GUM, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, SALT, TAURINE, VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS (E, A, D3, B12), SODIUM NITRITE (TO PROMOTE COLOR RETENTION), THIAMIN MONONITRATE (VITAMIN B1), FERROUS SULFATE, ZINC SULFATE. Guaranteed Analysis %: Moisture (maximum) 78 Crude Protein (minimum) 11 Crude Fat (minimum) 4 Crude Fiber (maximum) 1.5 My intentions aren't good? Let me see, I love cats, take good care of them and work hard to keep them healthy and happy. So, how does that make melicious. You also claim I have never researched food. Have you been there right there with me when I've read up on a lot of foods? Have you physically gone to the store with me to research foods? Have you gone with me to the vet when one of my cats came down with a UTI and it was suggested to try a different food? The food I use doesn't have any corn, wheat or soy in it. It doesn't have any by-products. The meats used are not hormone injected and is the free range stuff. It also doesn't have any additives, and has cranberries in it for urinary tract health. Basically it's humane grade which means we could eat it. For example, here are the ingredients for one of the canned variety's of the Spa Select. This is what's in the tuna one. "Tuna, Fish Broth, Chicken, Chicken Liver, Whitefish, Brown Rice, Sweet Potatoes, Carrots, Eggs, Broccoli, Wild Rice, Cranberries, Blueberries, Yellow Squash, Dicalcium Phosphate, Lecithin, Potassium Chloride, Sea Salt, Guar Gum, Carrageenan Gum, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Sodium Selenite, Manganese Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Manganese), Copper Amino Acid Complex, Calcium Iodate, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D-3, Vitamin E, Vitamin B-12, Riboflavin, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Choline Chloride, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitriate, Biotin, Taurine." I'd say it's pretty healthy although I'm sure the naysayers will probably say it's all crap. At least my cats are getting a brand that works. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > He doesn't have good intentions. He's a malicious idiot who has not even > researched cat food. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Crude Fat (minimum) 4 > Crude Fiber (maximum) 1.5 . The meats used are not hormone injected ........me too! Hormones aren't allowed in chickens. >At least my cats are getting a brand that works. .......what works for you may not work for someone else. buglady take out the dog before replying on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:10:04 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote: > My intentions aren't good? Let me see, I love cats, take good care of > them and work hard to keep them healthy and happy. So, how does that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you gone with me to the vet when one of my cats came down with a UTI > and it was suggested to try a different food? We can only go on what you post here. When you are asked for proof that FF is crap, as you are so fond of repeating ad friggin nauseum, you offer none. NO ONE is saying the food you are feeding your cats isn't good, just that you can't back up your claims that FF is bad. > The food I use doesn't have any corn, wheat or soy in it. This is good. > It doesn't have any by-products. This is not necessarily good. Cats eat the entire mouse, including the "by-products" so when by-products are not included in the food, they have to be supplemented with something else. Typically this is with additives, and every nutritionist worth his or her salt will tell you that added vitamins and minerals are NOT as well absorbed as the real deal. Whole foods in as close to their natural state as possible is what you should be aiming for when feeding a cat. Or anyone, actually. > The meats used are not hormone injected and is > the free range stuff. It also doesn't have any additives, Uh, the following ingredients in your BB are all additives. Did you seriously not know that?? > Dicalcium Phosphate, Lecithin, Potassium > Chloride, Sea Salt, Guar Gum, Carrageenan Gum, Zinc Amino Acid [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Chloride, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitriate, > Biotin, Taurine. > I'd say it's pretty healthy although I'm sure the naysayers will > probably say it's all crap. At least my cats are getting a brand that > works. No one is saying it's not healthy or that it's crap. It's just not ideal for every cat. If you would refrain from posting things about which you know very little to nothing, you might find people being more pleasant to you. But maybe not, since you are dim witted and whiney. SignatureLynne Lynne I got tired of him. I kill filed him his stupidity was making my stomach turn > on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:10:04 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > to nothing, you might find people being more pleasant to you. But maybe > not, since you are dim witted and whiney. on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:34:44 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > Lynne I got tired of him. I kill filed him his stupidity was making my > stomach turn I'm still having fun with him. Forgive me! SignatureLynne >"Tuna, Fish Broth, Chicken, Chicken Liver, Whitefish, Brown Rice, Sweet >Potatoes, Carrots, Eggs, Broccoli, Wild Rice, Cranberries, Blueberries, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Pantothenate, Choline Chloride, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, >Thiamine Mononitriate, Biotin, Taurine." Brown Rice, Sweet, Potatoes, Carrots, Broccoli, Wild Rice, Cranberries, Blueberries, Yellow Squash, What use are any of these for cats? Why are they in the food? What country are they are from? Wouldn't it be just eas easy for them to get contaiminated rice as it was for all those foods with contaminated wheat gluten? > On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:10:04 -0700, "Cat Protector" > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > to get contaiminated rice as it was for all those foods with > contaminated wheat gluten? I don't get it either, Meghan. I mean, it sounds all nice and appetizing, much more so than the average bag of catfood ingredients. But I always wonder if it's a marketing thing aimed more at the human with the checkbook than the cat. I'm pretty gullible though, and easy to convince. I wish someone here would explain why NUTRITIONALLY cat food has vegetables now (*organic* ones, no less). Using the manufacturer of the food as a source for info doesn't count!! :-) Sherry >> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:10:04 -0700, "Cat Protector" >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Sherry All anyone need do is think about cats and where they came from for a few minutes.... Cats evolved in a desert climate. They had very little plant material and almost no free water in their environment. They got all the "by-products" they needed from their prey - and their prey, being composed of appx. 75% water, filled their hydration needs. Cats are "obligate carnivores" (obligate meaning obliged, or forced, to a meat-only diet). About 95% of the vegetable matter put into cat food is there only for "filler" - it mostly just passes through cats' digestive system without being absorbed into or used by their bodies (so that percentage of the food you buy does nothing except fill the litter box with more crap - that's why people are so surprised by how much less they have to scoop when they switch to a premium cat food). Dry cat food commercials make me laugh when they show beautiful carrots and other veggies that may appeal to a cat's owner, but not to a cat. Since cats were not evolved to drink their water, they mostly don't drink enough when they are fed dry food (thus the high incidence of kidney and urinary tract problems for cats fed a dry-only diet). Since canned cat food is composed of appx. 75% water, this meets their hydration needs perfectly. Oops, off my soapbox now - sorry for the lecture Sherry, you probably already know all this! Hugs, CatNipped > >> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:10:04 -0700, "Cat Protector" > [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > CatNipped That's good food for thought (pardon the pun)...and a good post. Sherry >> >> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:10:04 -0700, "Cat Protector" >> [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > Sherry Thank you. Ironically, it took me many years to stop and "think about" it. For 15 years I listened slavishly to my vet who advised me to feed Bandit Science Diet dry (and didn't even think to question the fact that he also sold that cat food in his practice). To be honest, Bandit did extremely well on that diet for 15 years until I found out better (she's 17 now and her creatinin and BUN values still rival those of a young cat). But when I did, *finally*, stop and think about it I was blown away by the obvious logic and wondered why I didn't think of it sooner (I *did* know how and where cats evolved, being an allurophile I've read everything about cats that I can get my hands on). Hugs, CatNipped > >> "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] > > CatNipped- Hide quoted text - The only obvious missing component to the prey-substitution diet is....the crunchy things/ hard to tear/chew things. I don't think we'll ever see "Purina Bones, Fur & Feathers Chow." Kibble doesn't really replace those things, because they don't use their teeth that much to chew it. I remember reading way back about people who fed their cats raw chicken (was it the necks?) Anyway, I was always too creeped out to do that. Sherry Sherry On Apr 17, 12:28?pm, "CatNipped" <lcr...@houston.rr.com> wrote: > "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > > CatNipped- Hide quoted text - The only obvious missing component to the prey-substitution diet is....the crunchy things/ hard to tear/chew things. I don't think we'll ever see "Purina Bones, Fur & Feathers Chow." Kibble doesn't really replace those things, because they don't use their teeth that much to chew it. I remember reading way back about people who fed their cats raw chicken (was it the necks?) Anyway, I was always too creeped out to do that. Sherry Bandit makes up for it by biting on me [DH says I'm bony]! ;> Hugs, CatNipped > All anyone need do is think about cats and where they came from for a few > minutes.... [snips] Excellent, intelligent post, CN! Way to weight the IQ ratio for the better! >> All anyone need do is think about cats and where they came from for a few >> minutes.... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Excellent, intelligent post, CN! Way to weight the IQ ratio for the > better! Was that a fat crack!!!??! Are you making fat jokes!!????!!!!! LOL! Thanks CC, I try to do my part, but when you have CP at one end of the scale you need two-ton Annie on the other to overcome the stupidity he spews! ;> Hugs, CatNipped >> Excellent, intelligent post, CN! Way to weight the IQ ratio for the >> better! > > Was that a fat crack!!!??! Are you making fat jokes!!????!!!!! LOL! Noooo, dahlink! It was my convoluted way of saying that your post was a smarter than average post for the group, given that we now have CP spouting horse sh.t and Barry telling someone with a cat with heart disease that the diagnosis means "air in the heart." He knows better of course, but just the fact that he would post this horse sh.t and think it was funny tells you all you need to know about his intelligence level. Yessirree, I likes em big and dumb. > Thanks CC, I try to do my part, but when you have CP at one end of the > scale you need two-ton Annie on the other to overcome the stupidity he > spews! ;> hahaha! You have been missed. It's good to see you back. >>> Excellent, intelligent post, CN! Way to weight the IQ ratio for the >>> better! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > smarter than average post for the group, given that we now have CP > spouting Danke! > horse sh.t and Barry telling someone with a cat with heart disease that > the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > hahaha! You have been missed. It's good to see you back. Good to be back (or front - it's just good to be!!!). I seem to be disinherited from my old stomping grounds (I think because I committed the sin of telling like it is rather than issuing blanket "purrs" once too often), so it's good to have somewhere else to haunt! ;> Hugs, CatNipped > Good to be back (or front - it's just good to be!!!). I seem to be > disinherited from my old stomping grounds (I think because I committed the > sin of telling like it is rather than issuing blanket "purrs" once too > often), so it's good to have somewhere else to haunt! ;> Cool! You're a reformed anecdolt. I knew this time was coming! {hug} (I could use one myself, I have been boo hooing over the VA Tech killings, much to my surprise. This one hit me a lot harder than the other heinous events we are all getting too used to.) > I have been boo hooing over the > VA Tech killings, much to my surprise. This one hit me a lot harder > than the other heinous events we are all getting too used to. You and me both. Virginia Tech is my alma mater. Blacksburg is the place that feels most like home to me after living there for over 8 years and starting my family there. I spent an anxious night contacting friends who are professors in the College of Engineering and friends who still live in Blacksburg. Any relief I feel when I find out another friend is okay is very short lived. So many people are not okay, and their families and friends are not okay. What a nightmare. I can't stop crying. SignatureLynne > > I have been boo hooing over the > > VA Tech killings, much to my surprise. This one hit me a lot harder [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- > Lynne I'm very sorry, Lynn. You described what it was like for us after the OKC bombing--waiting to see who was on the list you hadn't heard about yet. It *is* exactly like a nightmare. Just a surreal thing whose enormity doesn't sink in right away. You just can't wrap your brain around it. Then you start to wrap your brain around it, but that just makes it worse. And it keeps getting worse. I am so, so sorry, sorry for everyone invovled. For the victims, for the families and friends. And for all of us because I am terribly afraid news like this isn't as shocking and horrible to me personally as it should be, like it used to be. Does that even make sense. Probably not. You are all in my prayers. Sherry "Sherry" <sriddles@aol.com> wrote I am so, so sorry, sorry for everyone invovled. For the victims, for the families and friends. And for all of us because I am terribly afraid news like this isn't as shocking and horrible to me personally as it should be, like it used to be. Does that even make sense. Probably not. You are all in my prayers. It makes perfect sense, Sherry. > I'm very sorry, Lynn. You described what it was like for us after the > OKC bombing--waiting [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > it. Then you start to wrap your brain around it, but that just makes > it worse. And it keeps getting worse. That's exactly how it goes. > I am so, so sorry, sorry for everyone invovled. For the victims, for > the families and friends. And for all > of us because I am terribly afraid news like this isn't as shocking > and horrible to me personally as it should > be, like it used to be. Does that even make sense. Probably not. You > are all in my prayers. It does make sense. If we allow ourselves to feel every tragedy as deeply as we could, how would we ever function? I wish I could stop feeling this one... SignatureLynne > You and me both. Virginia Tech is my alma mater. Blacksburg is the place > that feels most like home to me after living there for over 8 years and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What a nightmare. I can't stop crying. I have done a lot of work at VT, in the library. Every time I went it was in the spring. Every time I went the area, the drive in from Raleigh, through the mountains, over the New River just took my breath away. It's a sweet place, a tiny town except for the college students. I'm so sorry, Lynne. > I have done a lot of work at VT, in the library. Every time I went it was > in the spring. Every time I went the area, the drive in from Raleigh, > through > the mountains, over the New River just took my breath away. It's a > sweet place, a tiny town except for the college students. I'm so sorry, > Lynne. It's very beautiful there. I'm glad you have seen it before this tragedy occured. Virginia Tech is a huge university, but the sense of community there is very strong. It never felt big. It's an odd paradox, but it's such a wonderful place in so many ways that many students find it hard to leave the town of Blacksburg after they have finished their degrees. We used to call it the "black hole" because it had such a strong pull on us. I hope they are able to get back to that one day. SignatureLynne > It's very beautiful there. I'm glad you have seen it before this tragedy > occured. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I hope they are able to get back to that one day. Lynne, one miserable a.shole cannot change VT forever, no matter how heinous his acts. He's taken enough away, don't give him more power than he had. on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:24:53 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote: > Lynne, one miserable a.shole cannot change VT forever, no matter how > heinous his acts. He's taken enough away, don't give him more power > than he had. Did you see the convocation today? Nikki Giovanni closed the ceremony with a powerful poem. She's a very dynamic, inspirational speaker (I took a class with her once as an elective and loved her). She had everyone on their feet cheering after this: "We are Virginia Tech We are sad today And we will be sad for quite a while We are not moving on We are embracing our mourning We are Virginia Tech We are strong enough to stand tall tearlessly We are brave enough to bend to cry And sad enough to know We must laugh again We are Virginia Tech We do not understand this tragedy We know we did nothing to deserve it But neither does a child in Africa dying of AIDS Neither do the invisible children walking the night away To avoid being captured by a rogue army Neither does the baby elephant watching his community be devastated for ivory Neither does the Mexican child looking for fresh water Neither did Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom Raped and killed by a gang of African-American criminals For no reason whatsoever No one deserves a tragedy We are Virginia Tech The Hokie nation embraces our own And reaches out with open heart and hands To those who offer their hearts and minds We are strong and brave And innocent and unafraid We are better than we think And not quite what we want to be We are alive to the imagination and the possibility We will continue to invent the future Through our blood and tears Through all this sadness We are the Hokies We will prevail We will prevail We will prevail We are... Virginia Tech." SignatureLynne > Did you see the convocation today? Nikki Giovanni closed the > ceremony with a powerful poem. She's a very dynamic, > inspirational speaker (I took a class with her once as an > elective and loved her). She had everyone on their feet > cheering after this: Whoa. I didn't see it, but I'm so glad you posted this poem. I hope the kids there were able to hear and feel her message because it is a powerful one. They are very lucky to have her there for guidence through this tragedy. What a great message. I'm in tears reading it. I read your post about your ties to the univ and I send to you soothing vibes to get past this. This was just senseless. This shooter can't even be compared to terrorists who claim to have a message to send with their actions. This guy just seemed to want to play shoot'em up. Senseless. A waste. > "We are Virginia Tech > We are sad today [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > We will prevail > We are... Virginia Tech." SignatureCheryl > on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:24:53 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Did you see the convocation today? I did. I boohooed until I got lightheaded. It isn't just the brutality of this particular attack, or how close to home it is. It's partly the contrast with the beautiful spring, in a heavenly place. And probably a little bit that my father died this time of year (April 21) very suddenly. The heart is not reasonable and anniversaries have an effect, if even just subconsciously. I was so beside myself I even thought The Chimp in Chief did a nice job. I had to go and lie down. I especially liked that they had a muslim cleric as part of the service. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:12:48 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote: > I did. I boohooed until I got lightheaded. It isn't just the brutality > of this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > suddenly. The heart is not reasonable and anniversaries have an > effect, if even just subconsciously. Of course they do, of course they do. > I was so beside myself I even thought The Chimp in Chief did a nice > job. I thought he did as well, and it's the first time I've ever heard him speak that he didn't piss me off. > I had to go and lie down. > > I especially liked that they had a muslim cleric as part of the > service. That was a professor from the department of Electrical Engineering, one of my old professors. I was very moved by what he said, and also by what the Buddhist, Jewish and Christian ministers said. The ceremony was truly beautiful. I was particularly impressed with how the ROTC student musicians were able to perform under the circumstances. There were thousands of students at the football field watching on the big screens because they couldn't fit everyone in the coliseum. I think the ceremony was a beautiful first step in the healing process. Nikki's poem was a perfect way to close the ceremony. I nearly hyperventilated from sobbing when the grieving man sitting behind President Bush had to be helped out, though. Some of these parents lost their only children. *heavy sigh* SignatureLynne > I nearly hyperventilated from sobbing when the grieving man sitting > behind President Bush had to be helped out, though. Some of these > parents lost their only children. I really am not sure I would survive such a thing. > I really am not sure I would survive such a thing. yeah, that would be very hard. in comparison to other crimes, at least they can get closure on their loss.. where... if a child was stolen.. that would torture the parent for a life time I imagine some folk just go numb >> I nearly hyperventilated from sobbing when the grieving man >> sitting behind President Bush had to be helped out, though. >> Some of these parents lost their only children. > > I really am not sure I would survive such a thing. Yes, you would. It doesn't matter how you lose them, whether through a senseless act of violence, or a senseless car accident. They will heal, and they will remember their lost children with love and memories. It will take a while. SignatureCheryl > > I have done a lot of work at VT, in the library. Every time I went it was > > in the spring. Every time I went the area, the drive in from Raleigh, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I hope they are able to get back to that one day. Things just keep changing more and more, yesterday is gone gone gone. It is the hum of reality. It's not going to get any better, Im not a gloom and doomist but we are deteriorating from the inside out. If the kids parents had not smoked dope, or beat each other or had given their son attention, this wouldn't have happened, if society had been responsible and so on They never had this kind of crap on Little House on the Prairie. >> Good to be back (or front - it's just good to be!!!). I seem to be >> disinherited from my old stomping grounds (I think because I committed [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > VA Tech killings, much to my surprise. This one hit me a lot harder > than the other heinous events we are all getting too used to.) Yeah, I was just talking to a coworker about this. Since it was first thought to be a domestic shooting, I was prompted to ask what is it about men that they have to kill the woman who dumped them (and very often her friends and family as well), and then kill themselves (isn't just killing themselves good enough do they really need to take along innocent bystanders??!). It's like a man gets dumped and he shoots 32 people - a woman gets dumped and she kills a gallon of chocolate ice cream! Hugs, CatNipped >Yeah, I was just talking to a coworker about this. Since it was first >thought to be a domestic shooting, I was prompted to ask what is it about [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >It's like a man gets dumped and he shoots 32 people - a woman gets dumped >and she kills a gallon of chocolate ice cream! I dunno, ask Jean Harris & Amy Fisher *shrug*. Dumb people sometimes do dumb things with inanimate objects. Lizzie Grubman used her Assault SUV to mow down 16 people and got a *60 day sentence* for felony and *misdemeanor* assault charges. And we still don't know what OJ did with the knife... Signatureannoyed@net.spammers Craig, Kathi & "Cat Five" the tabby girl > I don't get it either, Meghan. I mean, it sounds all nice and > appetizing, much more > so than the average bag of catfood ingredients. But I always wonder if > it's a > marketing thing aimed more at the human with the checkbook than the > cat. dingdingding! We have a winner! >I don't get it either, Meghan. I mean, it sounds all nice and >appetizing, much more [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Using the manufacturer of the food as a source for info doesn't >count!! :-) I wouldn't mind it so much, but I spent years being told that I was bad for letting my cat have veggies. His favorites were peas and mushrooms. I don't think there is anything bad about them being there, but I don't see any good reason for them there. I think it is just hype to raise the price of the food. At the same time, that means more ingredients from various sources. And if a toxin can get into wheat gluten, it can certainly be in anything else. I don't think the poisoned food problem is because of wheat gluten, per se, but because of cheap food products being imported from countries that do not follow the same standards regarding food. And this could happen to ANY ingredient. > I wouldn't mind it so much, but I spent years being told that I was > bad for letting my cat have veggies. His favorites were peas and > mushrooms. I love your approach to cat food. Remember we were also told eggs were bad, then it was coffee then it was wine I finally resolved to listen to my body... I think it's safe for the most part to let a cat decide what they like and don't like. (knowing they are so equal to the task of surviving) >My intentions aren't good? Let me see, I love cats, take good care of them >and work hard to keep them healthy and happy. So, how does that make [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >I'd say it's pretty healthy although I'm sure the naysayers will probably >say it's all crap. At least my cats are getting a brand that works. Blue Buffalo, of Wilton, Conn., followed Thursday by recalling 5,044 bags of its Spa Select Kitten dry food. The company intercepted most of the kitten food before it reached distribution centers, company co-founder Billy Bishop said. They'll probably add the rest of their line too.....so how do you feel now? They'll probably add the rest of their line? And you know this how? Only 5,044 bags of kitten food went out to retailers and the rest of it was never sent out. The rest of the Blue Spa Select line isn't affected because they didn't use Wilbur-Ellis for any other cat line. Wilbur-Ellis also never disclosed to Blue Buffalo that they got the rice protein concentrate from China and they have also stated it as such. Before you start spouting that things will be happening I suggest you take time to read the facts. Melamine was also found in hog feed as well from ground up animal food. Are you now going to also state that every pig in the United States will probably be killed now even though some of them in California tested positive for having melamine in their systems? Yes, a food recall of this magnitude is scary but this could hit any industry at any time. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Blue Buffalo, of Wilton, Conn., followed Thursday by recalling 5,044 > bags of its Spa Select Kitten dry food. The company intercepted most [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > They'll probably add the rest of their line too.....so how do you feel > now? on Sat, 21 Apr 2007 05:28:25 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote: > They'll probably add the rest of their line? And you know this how? > Only 5,044 bags of kitten food went out to retailers and the rest of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > a food recall of this magnitude is scary but this could hit any > industry at any time. Your precious Blue Buffalo bought cheap ingredients from China just like the crappy (and some not so crappy) brands did. Get off your high horse. Hopefully it will end up being limited to the food they have already identified, but people are in a panic you a.s, they are not personally attacking *you* because of your BB cock sucking attitude. You are such a twat. SignatureLynne "We are strong enough to stand tall tearlessly We are brave enough to bend to cry And sad enough to know We must laugh again" ~ Nikki Giovanni, 4/17/2007, Virginia Tech High horse? It's been you and the others attacking me in chat because I'm not a part of your clique. Blue Buffalo didn't purchase rice protein concentrate from China directly. It was Wilbur-Ellis who purchased it from China and failed to tell both Blue Buffalo about it and they are upset about it. Blue was also the only company that I'm aware of that also issued a formal apology as soon as this was discovered. BTW, can't you act like an adult? How is calling me names going to solve anything? Can't you post without the name calling? SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Your precious Blue Buffalo bought cheap ingredients from China just like > the crappy (and some not so crappy) brands did. Get off your high horse. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You are such a twat. > High horse? It's been you and the others attacking me in chat because I'm > not a part of your clique. Now now, you come outcha mouth with black stuff, then when you got the desired response you become the victim? You're just sore cause Sherry, then PUNCH called you on your hypocrisies. You have been caught with a bad attitude. Just fix it and move on. My point is proven. If I'm not a part of the group and agree with everything Lynne, Sherry and the rest of the followers say, I'm basically called names and attacked. Apparently now, the race card is now dealt. Black stuff? I'm not black. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Now now, you come outcha mouth with black stuff, then when you got the > desired response you become the victim? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Just fix it and move on. > My point is proven. If I'm not a part of the group and agree with everything > Lynne, Sherry and the rest of the followers say, I'm basically called names [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > Just fix it and move on. I am black, see my profile here. anyway... I meant black as in... trite stuff what point? that we all feed our cats garbage? I say oh really? You have first hand experience? The only experience you have shown is that you've done nothing but call me names and say I'm wrong. I find it funny that in these arguments people like yourself will always say they tried the healthier brands and it didn't work just to say that the other side is wrong. I know one person's cat who also has diabetes as well and she went the holistic route. It's worked well for the cat. So, if it works for someone else are you going to say they too put their foot in their mouth if they also come on here posting about it? SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Again you have no facts to back up your statements. While I can make a > statement about nutrition for I have first hand experience while you are [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > CP you might have good intentions but even the best intentions don't > always make a right. Believe what you want every time you open your mouth you prove you are a moron. I ma glad this group watches your dumb a.s when you post to someone and THE GROUP puts you in place and provides the correct information to the OP. Someone like you is dangerous specially if someone id naive enough to |
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