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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2008What to do With Old Cat Litter?
Just wondering if anyone has creative ideas for what to do with old cat litter that has been reused for months on end... We have four boxes and use clumping litter with sifting pan liners. Every week we sift out the clumpy bits, add a generous sprinkle of deodorizer to the box, and top off with a little fresh litter. This works great for quite some time, but eventually the deodorizer makes the litter quite dusty, and I suspect there is an accumulation of odor I do not detect but the kitties do. So, it's time to change out all the little boxes! Aside from paying the rubbish hauler to take away many pounds of smelly litter, is there anything useful I could do with it? Maybe in the compost, or the garden? Make a pinata for bad kids?  SignatureSmartin > Just wondering if anyone has creative ideas for what to do with old cat > litter that has been reused for months on end... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > anything useful I could do with it? Maybe in the compost, or the garden? > Make a pinata for bad kids? Is your litter clay based? If so, you can simply disperse it in a forested area near your home... this way the clay returns to nature instead of clogging up a landfill. Don't make a huge pile of the stuff, but rather spread it about. Other than that, because it is used and smelly I cannot see another use for it. > Just wondering if anyone has creative ideas for what to do with old cat > litter that has been reused for months on end... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > anything useful I could do with it? Maybe in the compost, or the garden? > Make a pinata for bad kids? Do *not* use it in your garden. Vegetables should not be grown in cat litter, and the litter would serve as an attractant to other cats that would dig in the soil (which you probably would not like, even in a flower bed). If you have a field or wooded area, you could spread it lightly over the area -- but I think your best option would be to simply dispose of it with your trash. MaryL On 9 Apr, 00:40, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > > Just wondering if anyone has creative ideas for what to do with old cat > > litter that has been reused for months on end... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Us Uk'ers ( BRITS) have got to think of a solution fairly smartly, because in the very near future we expect to be charged by kilo of waste that we dispose of. In my area there is a pilot scheme starting quite soon, & we are very concerned about how we are going to get around this exact problem... As you can imagine, we are very worride about this, because there are a lot of families who simply can't afford to pay for cat litter to be disposed of in the conventional way. There are those that would say that this is all part of being a responsible cat owner, but there are others who would argue that when they got their pet cat, that this was never a problem that they anticipated, which is quite true! Our biggest concern is that People will simply dump it any old where, because of the expense involved. How do we get around this problem? S;o) > Just wondering if anyone has creative ideas for what to do with old cat > litter that has been reused for months on end... Got any enemies...? IBen Getiner > Just wondering if anyone has creative ideas for what to do with old cat > litter that has been reused for months on end... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > anything useful I could do with it? Maybe in the compost, or the garden? > Make a pinata for bad kids? Is it expensive to just throw it out? I do it about every 3 months, I put each box in a large garbage bag (I have 4 large litter boxes), litter and all - I usually triple bag each one, and just leave it with my regular trash, but there is no cost for me Same here. I just throw out my litter every couple of days. I keep a double lined plastic bag next to litter box which I clean out 3 to 4 times a day and then every couple of days I just take that out to the trash with my regular garbage. I go through a 14 lb. box of Fresh Step every other week. >> Just wondering if anyone has creative ideas for what to do with old cat >> litter that has been reused for months on end... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >all - I usually triple bag each one, and just leave it with my regular >trash, but there is no cost for me on Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:22:58 GMT, "Moongal" <Moongal201@yahoo.com> wrote: > Is it expensive to just throw it out? I do it about every 3 months, I > put each box in a large garbage bag (I have 4 large litter boxes), > litter and all - I usually triple bag each one, and just leave it with > my regular trash, but there is no cost for me The "cost" for disposing of cat litter is the space it takes up in the landfills. Finding alternate means of disposal is a very good idea for everyone. Even better, use something that can be recycled, like pine pellets, newspaper based litter, or wheat based litter, which can be composted after use. SignatureLynne > The "cost" for disposing of cat litter is the space it takes up in the > landfills. Finding alternate means of disposal is a very good idea for > everyone. Even better, use something that can be recycled, like pine > pellets, newspaper based litter, or wheat based litter, which can be > composted after use. Of course, composting litter is not exactly easy in some areas. A decent-sized composter, one big enough to handle loads of cat litter, takes up a pretty decent amount of space. Plus, it takes time for all that to break down, and when I was doing it, we were generating too much cat litter for the (large) composter to keep up even with frequent turning and watering, especially in the winter. After three months, there was more cat litter than grass clippings, leaves, and kitchen scraps. Even when the litter looks like it's done composting, to be safe, you still shouldn't use it on vegetables because you can't guarantee that the bits of mixed-in feces got hot enough to kill all the microorganisms. There is another benefit to using the natural materials litters though, besides being healthier for your cats and better for the environment. They are much, much lighter; at least the wheat and pine ones are. So, if you're getting charged per kilo of waste, you'll save money by using the lighter material. Note also that some of them are flushable. I know Swheat Scoop is. So, you're generating less poundage (kilo-age? ;) just from the stuff you can flush instead of bag. -- Jennifer > Of course, composting litter is not exactly easy in some areas. A > decent-sized composter, one big enough to handle loads of cat litter, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > guarantee that the bits of mixed-in feces got hot enough to kill all > the microorganisms. I have no problem using composted pine cat litter in planting beds, but I *definitely* would not use it on a vegetable garden. I haven't had one in a while, but am planting one here again this year. I may do a second compost pile just for the vegetable garden, with no cat litter/sawdust. With just two cats, I don't have too much sawdust to compost. I also have a place I can just spread it (on my property), if for some reason I don't want to compost it all. I wonder if there would be any businesses interested in having the sawdust for recycling? There's a paper shredder company here who will shred your documents for free (while you watch for the untrusting types) and they sell the shredded paper for manufacturing something-or-other. Win-win. SignatureLynne > > Of course, composting litter is not exactly easy in some areas. A > > decent-sized composter, one big enough to handle loads of cat litter, [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > -- > Lynne We have always used a brand called Sofisticat, which is rather like tiny bits of shingle. I guess the nearest alternative would be a clay clumping litter, when trying to describe it. Would it be hard to introduce a new type of cat litter to all 7 of them? It was hell on earth trying to get Lucy(fur!!) to accept that we wanted her to try out the normal litter we used rather than plain soil which is what she was used to(we did that gradually over a month with half and half). Ringo was happy to use anything as long as it was a hooded litter.... The only other time that I tried out a new brand recently, it happened to be one of the new ones recently that look like white sand (almost), that was supposed to contain all nasty odours & turn into a gel like substance, rather like the stuff that is inside babies nappies do - all we had to do was sift it to take the refuse out. However, I found that we seemed to use rather a lot of it..... It was ok, but I found that it was rather expensive when we tried it. The only thing stopping me using the pine wood based one is because they didn't seem very keen on it.... But that was a couple of years ago & we have new feline family to try it out on now I suppose it is going to cost us a fair amount whichever way you look @ it, so really I should give the pine one a go if it is biodegradable?? Any advice on this one? Thanks, S;o) on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:59:17 GMT, "sheelagh" > The only thing stopping me using the pine wood based one is because > they didn't seem very keen on it.... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > biodegradable?? > Any advice on this one? Yes, you must transition them very, very, VERY slowly. From the Feline Pine website, http://www.naturesearth.com/faq.html "First start with covering the bottom of your litter box with an inch of our litter. Then cover with 3 inches of your old litter. Do not mix! Allow your cats to use their box as they normally would. With each litter box change, increase the amount of Feline Pine® and decrease the amount of your old litter until you are using nothing but the pine. After 3 to 4 changes, all cats adjust." This is exactly how I transitioned Rudy, but he's exceptionally relaxed about change so take that FWIW. I think that if you go slowly enough, even slower than recommended above, then all cats really will adjust. But you need to watch them carefully for any signs of litter box misbehavior, and you really need to do it in all the boxes at the same time, which will be quite a chore and perhaps overwhelming. If you do make the transistion, you also need to keep the sawdust to a minimum once you are switched over, because it can stay wet and it's got to be unpleasant for them. I switched to using sifting boxes recently and it makes using pine pellet litter much, much easier and cleaner. I just shake the sawdust into the bottom tray and dump it when it gets full. When the pine pellets get really, really low (like barely any left in the top part of the box), I wash both parts of the box. It always smells like pine and not unpleasant at all. Well, except when one of them has made one of thier ultra stinky poos... I'm really pleased with this stuff in every way. It doesn't have to be Feline Pine, by the way. I am using something called Woody Pet now that is a fraction of the cost of Feline Pine. It is sold as horse and small animal bedding in 30 lb bags and it looks (and is) nearly identical. You can probably find something similar at a horse supply shop in England. It will take quite an effort and commitment on your part to make the change, though, and with 7 cats, I think even I'd hesitate! By the way, when Levi came home at the tender age of 4 weeks, he was using old fashioned clay litter. So I made the transition as described above in the upstairs box, but left the downstairs box with all pine. Rudy continued to poo downstairs and pee upstairs, as always. I really thought he would prefer the clay and stop using the pine, but I was wrong. This cat would probably use a litter box I suspended from the ceiling with springs, though, so he may not be a good data point. :) SignatureLynne > on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:59:17 GMT, "sheelagh" > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > -- > Lynne Anything is worth a go Lynne. With this new pilot scheme, they will be charging us by the kg of waste that we put out., so I have got to try and minimise the amount that goes out in the rubbish(trash.) I thought we had hit rock bottom when they told us that we would only get one rubbish collection once a fortnight... but it just goes to show you how wrong I could be, doesn't it? It is not so bad in the winter, but come the summer, it is a real problem over here. Can you imagine not having your waste disposed of for 6 people and 7 cats too? It is minging by the time they collect it, & living right next to a public alleyway really doesn't help when you have a fortnights worth of cat litter out there, even if it is in a sealed heavy duty bag. It smells dreadful, is full of maggots and unsightly to boot!! Every single time they come to collect our rubbish, we have to get a power hose out to disinfect the bins..YUCKY!! I am willing to try just about anything, because the cost is dreadful. As if that is not bad enough, the water board are considering charging us for water by consumption too. I am not against saving the world by doing my bit & recycling. Far from it.. if I can, I do. It is easy once you get the hang of it... but the water charge as well as the Refuse charge is going to be darned expensive!! I don't expect it to be a doddle, but it has to be done because I simply don't think I could afford to get rid of the clay clumping type stuff in the quantities we are using;o( I will get some pine sawdust in then and give it a try. I will leave one of the cat litters normal as they are used to it, then change all 6 of the rest of them with the measures that you suggest & let you know how it goes.. Thank you for the information, l &ink too BTW, I appreciate it no end. S;o) on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 01:52:41 GMT, "sheelagh" > I will get some pine sawdust in then and give it a try. I will leave > one of the cat litters normal as they are used to it, then change all > 6 of the rest of them with the measures that you suggest & let you > know how it goes.. Just to clarify, it's pine pellets when you buy it. When the pellets get wet, they turn into sawdust, and the sawdust can be composted. I highly recommend converting ALL the boxes at once (slowly!), otherwise you may find all the cats using only one box and not adapting at all. SignatureLynne > on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 01:52:41 GMT, "sheelagh" > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > -- > Lynne > Just to clarify, it's pine pellets when you buy it. When the pellets get > wet, they turn into sawdust, and the sawdust can be composted. > > I highly recommend converting ALL the boxes at once (slowly!), otherwise > you may find all the cats using only one box and not adapting at all. Thanks for that Lynne. I must admit that I thought it was a bit strange that I had never seen it for sale in sawdust form when browsing at the pet shop... You mean the pellet shaped ones? I will do all of the litters together than.. Now this will be interesting, lol... Keep you up to date with how we are doing. S;o) on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:47:41 GMT, "sheelagh" > You mean the pellet shaped ones? Yep! That's right. > I will do all of the litters together than.. I think that will be the best way to go about this. > Now this will be interesting, lol... > Keep you up to date with how we are doing. Just go slowly! And do let us know. I hope it works out for you!! Being forced to reduce your refuse is no fun, but I would actually like to see that day come here. I'm appalled by what and how much garbage people throw out. SignatureLynne > on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:47:41 GMT, "sheelagh" > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > Lynne Bookie & I have just been talking about a similar issue under, Sad story has reached us here too. I agree with you. In the beginning when they handed us a box the size of a small cardboard box, & told us that we must recycle from now on. I filled that box in the first day that we got it, which forced me to throw excess recyclables in with the waste.... A bit pointless, wouldn't you say? In the end I rang our local authority, & asked them to send out extra bins for us. When you consider that there were 7 of us here, one poxy little box was a joke. They ended up sending us to wheelie bins out which we fill in about 4 days., but they only empty them on rotated weeks, so it leaves us a whole week & a half to think about where the hell we are going to store it & how we can leave it out in a clear bag so that they don't up end it on the garden... It wouldn't be the first time either.!! Most of the refuse bags that you can buy over here are all black & they won't take them. clear ones are around 5 x the price of the black ones. If they really want us to do our bit, &save the planet, then it shouldn't be too much to ask for them to give us extra bins in view of the amount/volume of people living here, should it? I am happy to try and do anything that we can to preserve what we have, but Big Brother doesn't make it easy to help them In fact after posting this, I am going to ring and ask them if they would send us another 2 out, because that would be about right & we wouldn't have the problems that we do. I am most definately doing to try the wood pine passed one out next time I go shopping this week end. I have a small spare bag in case everything goes T**''s up... But I do intend to persevere with it. I hate using the clay clumping one, but It is my fault that they are used to using it, so I must bare the consequences of it. By the sound of it, it smells a darned sight better too, lol... I will be only too pleased if they do accept it with no problems. If we hit snags, then I I'll be back to ask advice:o) Thanks Lynne, S;o) > > on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:47:41 GMT, "sheelagh" > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > another 2 out, because that would be about right & we wouldn't have > the problems that we do. Almost twenty years ago, I was living in an, um, economically depressed medium-sized city in New England, that decided to adopt a recycling program and charge for the removal of anything that wasn't recyclable. This is what they did: They made the rules for what could go in recycling and what couldn't clear, simple, and easy to understand. They printed those rules in every language spoken in the city--twenty-seven in all, which included Slovenian and Vietnamese and Chinese. They provided two bins per household automatically. If you needed more, you could request more--or you could use anything you wanted that more-or-less fit the description. It just had to be clear that you intended it as a recycling bin. You could even take a regular old trash bin, and mark it "recycling." For non-recyclable trash, you had to use city trash bags, which were day-glo yellow and had the recycling instructions on them. In their first incarnation, they were $0.50 each and held up to thirty pounds. Very quickly, elderly residents and handicapped residents complained that they couldn't fill them more than half-full or they couldn't lift and maneuver them adequately, so they were effectively being charged twice as much for the same amount of trash as everyone else. The city's response, within a month or two, was to make half-size bags available, at $0.25 each, in addition to the full-size bags. Anyone could use whichever they found best suited their needs. In very short order, we had a recycling program that for many years put to shame the efforts of hoity-toity inner suburbs that looked down their noses at industrial wastelands like that city and most of the places I've lived.:) So, yes, it is possible to do it right, IF the local government actually cares about making it practical for the residents to cooperate. > I am most definately doing to try the wood pine passed one out next > time I go shopping this week end. I have a small spare bag in case [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the consequences of it. By the sound of it, it smells a darned sight > better too, lol... It does. > I will be only too pleased if they do accept it with no problems. > If we hit snags, then I I'll be back to ask advice:o) > Thanks Lynne, > S;o)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Here's hoping they're in a cooperative mood when you introduce it.:) Lis > Being forced to reduce your refuse is no fun, but I would > actually like to see that day come here. I'm appalled by what > and how much garbage people throw out. You and me both, Lynne. While I have trash pickup 2x per week (no weight limit) and recycle pickup once a week, I don't have enough trash for 2 pickups unless I'm on a cleaning binge, and then I try to use Freecycle for what's still usable. My next door neighbors OTOH have several bins full of refuge for both weekly pickups EVERY week. I do have to say that they have a houseful, but not in proportion with the amount of trash IMO. SignatureCheryl on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:24:41 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote: > You and me both, Lynne. While I have trash pickup 2x per week (no > weight limit) and recycle pickup once a week, I don't have enough [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I do have to say that they have a houseful, but not in proportion > with the amount of trash IMO. The county where I live negotiated an exclusive garbage pick-up contract last year. Bastards. They completely neglected to include a recycling option, and now I can't even PAY to have them pick up recycling, like I used to do. I have to haul it away to a recycling facility, and knowing how few people actually opted to pay to have recycling hauled away when the service was available here, I sincerely doubt many people are making the extra effort. We only have a once per week pickup, but I have neighbors who fill two 55 gallon monster cans every week AND put out large items to be picked up along with that. It's mind boggling. And so short sighted. SignatureLynne > on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:24:41 GMT, Cheryl <jlhsha...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > Lynne I can't believe that....!! <gobsmacked staring @ my screen with dropped jaw> But I do believe it, because you told me so..... We are PROSECUTED if we don't recycle properly over here in some areas. Not all of them, but we certainly do... Imagine having your trash bags up ended on your garden if they even suspect that you might have put some cigarette buts in the bottom of it...? And they leave it there for your to pick up if you DO!!! If you don't, they do their best to clear it up & throw it in to the once a fortnight cart...!! It is almost inconceivable here. Everything is recycled from packaging to glass & even old clothes too....And we have a separate compost and soil bin with weed in and garden refuse that goes once a month... S;o) on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:42:56 GMT, "sheelagh" > I can't believe that....!! > <gobsmacked staring @ my screen with dropped jaw> > > But I do believe it, because you told me so..... Sadly, it's true, and it pisses me off royally. > We are PROSECUTED if we don't recycle properly over here in some > areas. Not all of them, but we certainly do... You'd be appalled by the amount of garbage this country generates. It's sickening. Just looking up and down my street on trash pick-up day is shocking. SignatureLynne > on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:42:56 GMT, "sheelagh" > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > -- > Lynne I don't think that I would be surprised actually. I think it is dreadful that we only have our rubbish collected once every other week. 14 days is a long time to store used cat litter and other rotting stinking rubbish, especially increasingly in the spring & the summer of course too. Not so bad with the recycling. we end up having to get the power washer out to rid ourselves of the maggots & other nasty bits and pieces too ...YUCKY!! If I am utterly honest with you, it wasn't that I was a big save the earth person @ heart when this recycling changeover happened. In fact I wasn't very much of a recyclers @ heart either. However, The kids we rightly educated to look after their world @ school & In the end I got so fed up with them ticking me off, that I tried it their way just to keep them quite to start with.. but then it became habit & now I pride myself on how much we can actually do to help ourselves..... But then it started to become habit & by the time they let us know that we were going to be a part of a pilot scheme where we would end up paying per kilo for the rubbish we disposed of, & wasn't too alarmed, because we had already got used to the idea that it might come some day. It is just the cat litter that worries me, because it weighs a huge amount & I *have to* dispose of it as rubbish, because that is all it is good for, & the only way I can dispose of it.... My main concern presently, is how/ what to use as the best environmental friendly cat litter filler & the least destructive product that won't end up costing me the world to pay for disposing of it. I can't/ wouldn't consider not using a litter and allowing the cats to go where they will after the Ringo incident.. so the only option left is to choose one that is as effective as the one we used to use ( or as nearly as possible..) I am delighted that they have agreed to send us out a second bin, because it really is a problem & I have no wish to pick up an entire dust bin liner full of recyclables off the front garden simply because someone put a tiny bit of used kitchen roll in it.. I do see their point, but it honestly was half a sheet of kitchen roll...A bit too petty... & no fun picking it all up. A lesson learned the hard way you could say!! All idea's and criticisms appreciated on this one please? S;o) > on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:47:41 GMT, "sheelagh" > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > see that day come here. I'm appalled by what and how much garbage people > throw out. I rang the local county council this morning to ask if we might have another wheelie bin to help with the volume of recycled rubbish we get through & they have agreed to send us one more bin out to us in 4 weeks time, & in the meantime, they are willing to send out those clear bags that I was telling you about. I asked if we might have another bin as well as the one they were willing to send out, If that wasn't enough to cope with the volume, & I was told that in the unlikely event that it wasn't (which it won't be as I put 2 out already...)... then we could ask for free clear bags from the council free of charge... Result, lol:o) Well worth the phone call.... S;o) on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:51:24 GMT, "sheelagh" > Well worth the phone call.... It never hurts to ask. I'm glad they are so reasonable! SignatureLynne snip> > There is another benefit to using the natural materials litters > though, besides being healthier for your cats and better for the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > poundage (kilo-age? ;) just from the stuff you can flush instead of > bag. ----------- For the record, Swheat Scoop clogged up my pipes so badly that the plumber nearly needed to drill through the cement basement floor/walls to reach the clogs. He was at my house for several hours, and it cost a couple of hundred dollars. The Swheat Scoop accumulated in the pipes over time. I would never flush any cat litter again, no matter what the package said. Best regards, ---Cindy S. > snip>> There is another benefit to using the natural materials litters > > though, besides being healthier for your cats and better for the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Best regards, > ---Cindy S. > ----------- > For the record, Swheat Scoop clogged up my pipes so badly that the plumber [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Best regards, > ---Cindy S. Cindy, As I am not familiar with that particular brand name, is that the sort that looks like sand but is white in colour? It is supposed to turn urine into a jelly type substance & it is easily cover-able for the cats & hence less wastage and longer service. It is similar to the type of stuff that is in babies nappies? Just as a foot note, How is Alex doing presently? I hope that things are ok.... I have been thinking about you all day because strangely, I dreamt about him last night.. S;o) >> snip>> There is another benefit to using the natural materials litters >> > though, besides being healthier for your cats and better for the [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Cindy, As I am not familiar with that particular brand name, is that > the sort that looks like sand but is white in colour? Rather than my trying to describe it, here is a weblink: http://www.swheatscoop.com/ >It is supposed > to turn urine into a jelly type substance & it is easily cover-able > for the cats & hence less wastage and longer service. It is similar > to the type of stuff that is in babies nappies? Nothing like that at all. > Just as a foot note, How is Alex doing presently? He's fine, but he's been urinating copiously. He's been going through several puppy training pads a day. (He has decided he prefers the puppy training pads to the downstairs litterbox - he doesn't have a UTI - I've had him checked). He does use the upstairs litter boxes when he's upstairs, however. I've been feeding him the Pepcid, Omega-3, and the potassium supplement. He's fortunately still in the early stages of CRF, so I anticipate having him for a long, long time. We're having another problem with Tux, the grouchy, grumpy foster cat whom we decided to keep a number of weeks back. He's been getting aggressive with Bullwinkle (my other sweet, gentle senior cat) and attacking him in the litter box. I am thinking of ordering Feliway, which I never would have heard of except for this newsgroup. My husband is having a fit and saying we never should have agreed to adopt Tux. He wants to return him to the rescue group. I want to try Feliway first and see if that will resolve the issue. > I hope that things are ok.... > I have been thinking about you all day because strangely, I dreamt > about him last night.. That is so sweet. When I get to it, my son has agreed to take pictures of all five of our current cats (plus Molly of blessed memory) and provide a link. Thank you for thinking of us. Best regards, ---Cindy S. > >> "Jennifer" <msjh...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > http://www.swheatscoop.com/ Ahhh! Now I understand what you mean. Thank you very much for the link . It was more helpful than a description & Visibly descriptive too. > >It is supposed > > to turn urine into a jelly type substance & it is easily cover-able > > for the cats & hence less wastage and longer service. It is similar > > to the type of stuff that is in babies nappies? > > Nothing like that at all. You gave me the idea to look for the link. I tried it once a few years ago & found it highly effective, but quite expensive. I have no idea how Eco friendly it is, but I would recommend it if I thought that it is ok to use environmentally ( but the name makes me think that it probably isn't..) Has anyone else tried this type of litter? I would love to hear other peoples testimonials about it if they have tried it as well. It weighs next to nothing & would be easily disposable too http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11569726/Silica_Gel_Cat_Litter.html > > Just as a foot note, How is Alex doing presently? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > supplement. He's fortunately still in the early stages of CRF, so I > anticipate having him for a long, long time. Wonderful It isn't unusual for a cat to decided that he is going to refuse to use a litter that another cat uses.. perhaps Tuxedo is using the downstairs one? >We're having another problem > with Tux, the grouchy, grumpy fostercatwhom we decided to keep a number of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to adopt Tux. He wants to return him to the rescue group. I want to try > Feliway first and see if that will resolve the issue. Then I think that it would be a good idea to try Feliway at the very least. It may well resolve the problem. I have never used it personally, so I can't tell you that it Will work, but the testimonials that I have read indicate it works effectively. I very much hope that Tux's animosity towards Alex does calm down soon. I'm sure it will with time and understanding.... I am new to the Puppy pants thing. Can you describe them to me at all please? There is an underlying reason for asking this question... I was hoping that once the boys here were neutered, that they would limit the amount of times that they sprayed. Unfortunately, this is not the case!1;o( In fact they haven't stopped one jot!! I have heard of stud pants, but wondered if puppy pants would be a good alternative? I understand your husband trouble, lol. I have the same problems.. I can also appreciate how he feels because sometimes it is rough when you take a kitty in, & it takes time to allow them to adapt. The problems they can create could be described as similar to sibling rivalry.. & that also takes patience and time to sort out ( the only difference is that you can't take them back..)..More "was" the pity when mine were young & terribly naughty between themselves..it is different now of course, lol;o) I tend to sooth him with kind words & promises of decent meals..usually it works. But if he is in a real stomp, I try to cope without his assistance, just until he calms down.; he does & when he has calmed down, he is of invaluable help & to be perfectly honest, I couldn't manage half the things that we do, without him. > > I hope that things are ok.... > > I have been thinking about you all day because strangely, I dreamt [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > all five of our current cats (plus Molly of blessed memory) and provide a > link. We look forward to that. > Thank you for thinking of us. > Best regards, > ---Cindy S We always think of you.. You have become a household name here.... Purrs for both Molly & Alex with oodles of head butts and leg weaves of course & lots of patience for Tux too S;o) > > "sheelagh" <sheelagh_mad...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 146 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I use the stuff you are discussing on the link. It is very effective, but I am not sure how Eco friendly it would be. K snip >> > Just as a foot note, How is Alex doing presently? >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > use a litter that another cat uses.. perhaps Tuxedo is using the > downstairs one? Yes, Tux uses the downstairs box, but he uses the upstairs boxes too, and Alex doesn't mind using those. Also, Alex always uses the litterbox for poops. > I am new to the Puppy pants thing. Can you describe them to me at all > please? > There is an underlying reason for asking this question... The puppy training pads are disposable, waterproof pads you put on the floor. In the world of human medicine, they are also known as "chux." http://www.northshorecare.com/chux1.html The idea with the puppy is that you housebreak him by training him to "do his business"on the pad. Then, when he gets acclimated to this, you move the pad outside, and the puppy will "do his business" on the pad outside. Finally, you stop using the pad entirely, and the puppy continues to "do his business" outside because now he associates "doing his business" with going outside. In the case of Alex the cat (who has never been outside), he simply decided that he preferred a particular spot in the hallway outside the kitchen door rather than the litterbox. It was really tiresome cleaning up the same spot on the floor multiple times every day. Then, I got the bright idea that since he was consistently using the same spot, I could put down one of these puppy training pads. I honestly figured he would change his spot, but I lucked out, and he didn't. So now, everytime I see the pad is wet, I simply replace it with a fresh one, and the floor stays clean and dry for the most part. Sometimes, it's not spot on center, and there is a little spillover, and I have to clean up the floor anyway, but not too often. The "puppy training pads" are expensive at the pet supply shop, but I see the "chux" that I can order online from the website are about half the price. If I hadn't been looking for a website with an image to show you, I never would have realized that I could get the chux for a lot less money. Of course, this doesn't help you with your problem :-( > I was hoping that once the boys here were neutered, that they would > limit the amount of times that they sprayed. Unfortunately, this is > not the case!1;o( In fact they haven't stopped one jot!! I have heard > of stud pants, but wondered if puppy pants would be a good > alternative? Unfortunately.... > I understand your husband trouble, lol. > I have the same problems.. > I can also appreciate how he feels because sometimes it is rough when > you take a kitty in, & it takes time to allow them to adapt. Tux has actually been with us for around six months. We officially adopted him only a few weeks ago, but he was our foster cat before that. Overall, he has calmed down in the six months that we've had him. It's just that every once in a while he goes after Alex or Bullwinkle, and then we get upset because these are senior cats. Tux is scared to death of Amanda though. She has assumed the position of alpha cat since Molly died. She spends most of her day sleeping or guarding her territory (the master bedroom). She will allow Alex to come in and take a nap on the bed or let Bullwinkle can come in for a snack from her personal food dish. She even allows Daisy to enter and sit on the clothes hamper. But if Tux so much as appears at the door, Amanda goes crazy and attacks him and chases him away. It's quite a sight. Especially considering that Amanda is kind of timid and nervous around people she doesn't know. > I tend to sooth him with kind words & promises of decent > meals..usually it works. > But if he is in a real stomp, I try to cope without his assistance, > just until he calms down.; he does & when he has calmed down, he is of > invaluable help & to be perfectly honest, I couldn't manage half the > things that we do, without him. I know what you mean. >> > I hope that things are ok.... >> > I have been thinking about you all day because strangely, I dreamt [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > We always think of you.. > You have become a household name here.... I have? But then again, my whole family was very upset about Ringo, and they were given up to the moment updates as you posted them. > Purrs for both Molly & Alex with oodles of head butts and leg weaves > of course > & lots of patience for Tux too > S;o) Thanks so much. Best regards, ---Cindy S. Note that cat poop should not be flushed. Why? Because cat poop contains a parasite known as Toxoplasmosis which is harmful to our friends the Sea Otters. Cat litter which has not been chemically treated is great for composting. It easily breaks down and can help your compost pile reach the ideal carbon to nitrogen ratio. BUT you should always take out solid waste before putting the cat litter into your compost pile. Best place for cat poop is the trash, destination land fill. >snip> >> There is another benefit to using the natural materials litters [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Best regards, >---Cindy S. Note that cat poop should not be flushed. Why? Because cat poop contains a parasite known as Toxoplasmosis which is harmful to our friends the Sea Otters. Cat litter which has not been chemically treated is great for composting. It easily breaks down and can help your compost pile reach the ideal carbon to nitrogen ratio. BUT you should always take out solid waste before putting the cat litter into your compost pile. Best place for cat poop is the trash, destination land fill. >> The "cost" for disposing of cat litter is the space it takes up in the >> landfills. Finding alternate means of disposal is a very good idea for [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >-- >Jennifer > Just wondering if anyone has creative ideas for what to do with old cat > litter that has been reused for months on end... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > anything useful I could do with it? Maybe in the compost, or the garden? > Make a pinata for bad kids? Thank you to all who responded! SignatureSmartin |
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