> on Sun, 08 Apr 2007 01:22:13 GMT, "Frdgr...@yahoo.com"
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> Lynne
Personally, I'm skeptical that it's melamine that is causing problems
for
> the pets consuming the tainted food since they are finding it in such
> small levels in the food. It's definitely something, though, and
> melamine can at least serve as a marker for identifying whether or not
> the sick animals have consumed tainted food. I wonder if it's not
> formaldehyde, since milk binds with formaldehyde... hmmmm.
Lynne, forgive my ignorance. What exactly is Formaldehyde & could you
possibly explain exactly what this latest incident regarding melamine
is exactly please?
I keep reading bits and pieces about it, but I don't understand the
cause or effect either?
Many Thanks,
S;o)
Lynne - 08 Apr 2007 14:48 GMT
on Sun, 08 Apr 2007 13:20:15 GMT, "sheelagh"
> Lynne, forgive my ignorance. What exactly is Formaldehyde & could you
> possibly explain exactly what this latest incident regarding melamine
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> Many Thanks,
Sheelagh, a good source of information about the recall here in the US is
collected here:
http://www.petconnection.com/recall_basics.php
This site also links to a list of the brands and formulations of recalled
foods, in which wheat gluten containing melamine was used for
manufacturing. I suspect the brand names are different in the UK.
Avoiding anything with wheat gluten can't hurt.
Formaldehyde (a chemical...) was a wild guess on my part as a possible
source of poisoning, based on the orginal post in this thread that
suggested milk helped--a post that I now find questionable.

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sheelagh - 08 Apr 2007 15:24 GMT
> on Sun, 08 Apr 2007 13:20:15 GMT, "sheelagh"
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As ever, you are informative, precise and to the point too. A much
valued quality.
Thank you very much..
S;o)
William Hamblen - 08 Apr 2007 18:40 GMT
>What exactly is Formaldehyde
Formaldehyde is a chemical with one carbon atom, two hydrogen atoms
and one oxygen atom in the molecule. It has a sharp smell and is
highly soluble in water. It is used in the plastics industry and as a
preservative. Formaldehyde is extremely common. You find it in the
smoke from a wood fire, for example.
Melamine is a chemical with three carbon atoms, six nitrogen atoms and
six hydrogen atoms in the molecule. It is used in the plastics
industry. Melamine is mildly toxic. I looked it up in my old copy of
Dangerous Properties of Industrial Chemicals, which said that the LD50
for rats was 3161 mg per kg by mouth. "LD50" is the dose sufficient
to kill half of the experimental animals. It took a smidgen more than
3 grams of melamine per kilogram of rat to do them in.
You do crude protein analysis of food by measuring the amount of
ammonia that is given off by the product when it is chemically treated
to release the nitrogen in the protein molecules. Someone elsewhere
speculated that the wheat gluten supplier might have been tricking up
the analysis by adding melamine. Otherwise the contamination could
have occured by carelessness: using containers that once held
melamine to ship wheat gluten without giving the containers a good
cleaning.
Bud

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