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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2007is there an Antidote for Revolution? (fleas)
is there an Antidote for Revolution? ...or another equally good product? Last time I used it, one of my 2 cats got very sick. ...Nerve problems like drunkenness and a cocked head for a week or so. I thought she might die. She had used it twice before, once a year, no problem. I dont wanna use it again unless there is an antidote. If not, any suggestions? ...A good, easy product for flea infestation? (fleas don't bother me personally) We get fleas, bad, every Spring. Oddly, my cats hardly ever scratch themselves. Thanks! --Doug  SignatureWhen one gains a political certainty akin to a loyal sports fan, one has achieved the final tranquility of servitude, a joyous slavery. "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams, August 1, 1776 > is there an Antidote for Revolution? > ...or another equally good product? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Thanks! > --Doug Try Advantage or Frontline Plus. I've never used Revolution, but I've never seen a bad reaction to Advantage or Frontline Plus in my cats. Don't use it often, but when I had to, either one worked well. SignatureCheryl > is there an Antidote for Revolution? > ...or another equally good product? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Thanks! > --Doug My cats are indoor-only, and I rarely need to use flea medication. When I do, I use Advantage. That has worked very well, with no problems. I used Revolution *only once* and will never use it again. Duffy had an immediate panic attack (the only time I have seen him react that way in the years since I adopted him) when Revolution was applied, and Holly had a much milder reaction. MaryL On Apr 6, 8:07 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > > is there an Antidote for Revolution? > > ...or another equally good product? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > MaryL- Hide quoted text - Oooh. I hate to hear that. I just bought a 6-dose carton of it. They'll probably (statistically anyway)...be fine. But I know how scary a reaction is. My Cellie had a terrible reaction to Frontline...a drooling panic attack like you described. He did fine with Advantage, but after that, I *never* treated a cat for fleas on the weekend or after 6 p.m.--when the vet is closed. Sherry > He did fine > with Advantage, but after that, I *never* treated a cat for fleas on > the weekend or after 6 p.m.--when the vet is closed. I think that is a very good idea, and one that never occurred to me. I'm going to take this same approach, because you just never know. SignatureLynne > > He did fine > > with Advantage, but after that, I *never* treated a cat for fleas on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Lynne I learned it the hard way. Once I took them to a late Friday p.m. appointment for vaccinations. Yoda had an awful reaction a few hours later, after they had closed for the weekend. Sherry > On Apr 6, 8:07 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Sherry I had also bought a 6-pack, but the vet clinic refunded my money for the remaining 4 doses. They also told me that the reaction I described was unusual, but they had seen it before with Revolution. One reason many people like Revolution is that it is "multi-purpose." My opinion now is that we should not consider these multi-purpose medications unless we *need* them. In other words, if fleas are the only problem, then treat only for fleas. Of course, I do realize that *any* medication has the potential to have an adverse effect on some cats (just as with people). MaryL On Apr 6, 11:31 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > > On Apr 6, 8:07 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > MaryL Yes, the multi-purpose thing is the reason I bought it, instead of Advantage which I usually use. Frank has tapeworms. I saw a segment on the fur on his "back parts". I thought if he has them, the other may, and since flea season isn't far away I'd just try to Revolution. Sherry > Oooh. I hate to hear that. I just bought a 6-dose carton of it. > They'll probably (statistically anyway)...be fine. But I know how [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sherry Duffy's panic attack didn't involve drooling. He reacted in sheer terror. He leaped straight up into the air, then began to run in circles at full speed. Since he is blind, he ran into walls and furniture (in fact, bounced off the walls) but was running so fast that I couldn't catch him for several minutes. I was really afraid he was going to hurt himself. I have never seen him become frightened and disoriented like that except for the one time I used Revolution. He is usually a completely confident, alert little guy who almost has a "sixth sense" to tell him where everything is. But not that day! He did calm down quickly once I was able to get to him and hold him in my arms. MaryL (repost, repaired NG list -sorry if dupe) Thanks everybody! Verry good info! This was my conclusion also: > I *never* treated a pet for fleas on > the weekend or after 6 p.m.--when the vet is closed. Yes! The feeling of helplessness otherwise is overpowering. Advantage seems like it might be an improvement. I'll see what the vet says. ==============excerpts: Try Advantage or Frontline Plus. I've never used Revolution, but I've never seen a bad reaction to Advantage or Frontline Plus in my ...... ** I use Advantage. That has worked very well, with no problems. I used Revolution *only once* and will never use it again. Duffy had an immediate panic attack (the only time I have seen him react that way in the years since I adopted him) when Revolution was applied, and Holly had a much milder reaction. -------- > He did fine > with Advantage, but after that, I *never* treated a cat for fleas on > the weekend or after 6 p.m.--when the vet is closed. I think that is a very good idea, and one that never occurred to me. I'm going to take this same approach, because you just never know. ======= They also told me that the reaction I described was ** unusual, but they had seen it before with Revolution. One reason many people like Revolution is that it is "multi-purpose." My opinion now is that we should not consider these multi-purpose medications unless we *need* them. ========== ========== On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:50:23 -0500, MaryL said about: Re: is there an Antidote for Revolution? (fleas) > > Oooh. I hate to hear that. I just bought a 6-dose carton of it. > > They'll probably (statistically anyway)...be fine. But I know how [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > Sherry I dont think the term "panic attack" should be used here. That has a specific meaning, and is nothing like that. The description is much better. People here (like me) are depending on acuracy. depending depending depending ! My cat showed trouble keeping her feet for several days, was less mal-cordination for week or so, and a cocked or tilted head for a week or two. I felt utterly helpless to help. All our symptopms sound to me like nerve problems. As I recall ? Revolution is a neurotoxin, as are the most deadly of military nerve gases and ag bug sprays. I worked for years as a citrus farmer. The idea of systemic toxins frightens me. ...turning your pet into bug bait. I was seduced by the ease and effectivness. Gee, no free lunch? Thanks again! > Duffy's panic attack didn't involve drooling. He reacted in sheer terror. > He leaped straight up into the air, then began to run in circles at full [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MaryL --Doug SignatureWhen one gains a political certainty akin to a loyal sports fan, one has achieved the final tranquility of servitude, a joyous slavery. "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams, August 1, 1776 I use the cheap Hartz stuff. Instead of applying the whole thing once a month, I usually use a few drops a week. If I see ticks I put the drop directly on the tick. It seems to work. My pussy sleeps with me so if I get bitten I increase the dose. >I use the cheap Hartz stuff. Instead of applying the whole thing once > a month, I usually use a few drops a week. If I see ticks I put the > drop directly on the tick. It seems to work. My pussy sleeps with me > so if I get bitten I increase the dose. I had not checked this thread for awhile and just now saw your message. Pleas *do not* use Hartz. There have been numerous reports (confirmed, not just anecdotal) of reactions, even including death. Hartz denied that their product was to blame but did remove one of the products from the market. An agreement was reached between the EPA and Hartz, but I would not be willing to take a risk after seeing that it took thousands of these reports before Hartz agreed to take any action. A lawsuit was also filed. You can find many references if you google for them. Here are a few links: http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/factsheets/hartzq_a.htm http://catangel.org/hartz.htm http://www.hartzvictims.org/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=789 http://www.geocities.com/hartzquilt/ MaryL >>I use the cheap Hartz stuff. Instead of applying the whole >>thing once [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > reports before Hartz agreed to take any action. A lawsuit was > also filed. Yeesh, I never saw the OP. Not only is Hartz dangerous and ineffective, what the OP is doing is not even according to the label. Any of the treatments that you apply to the skin MUST be applied to the back of the neck so the cat can't lick it off. Also, only use the amount indicated, though some of the formulas like Advantage can be applied earlier than one month if fleas come back. Still, I wouldn't use any of these pesticides in a manner that goes against label use. SignatureCheryl >>>I use the cheap Hartz stuff. Instead of applying the whole >>>thing once [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > back. Still, I wouldn't use any of these pesticides in a manner > that goes against label use. Excellent point! I overlooked that, and it is *very important.* Using these pesticides in a manner that goes against label use could be *very dangerous* -- just as you said -- and (and could even be fatal) to the cat. MaryL Two more thoughts. It may be unrelated, but in the year since then, that cat has gone from good hearing to stone deaf. I have no idea what the delay time was, if any. There is a general purpose atropine-based military nerve gas antidote. But would it kill cats? google Results about 46,600 for "nerve gas" antidote. (0.16 seconds) SignatureWhen one gains a political certainty akin to a loyal sports fan, one has achieved the final tranquility of servitude, a joyous slavery. "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams, August 1, 1776 |
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