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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2007Another Rat Poison Post
There is an article on cnn as well: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/23/pet.food.recall.ap/index.html Do you guys think that some sicko could have done this on purpose?? No the report says the wheat was tainted with it > There is an article on cnn as well: > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/23/pet.food.recall.ap/index.html > > Do you guys think that some sicko could have done this on purpose?? Couldn't someone have tainted the wheat with the rat poison? >No the report says the wheat was tainted with it >> There is an article on cnn as well: >> >> http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/23/pet.food.recall.ap/index.html >> >> Do you guys think that some sicko could have done this on purpose?? More in likely it was done in the fields where it was harvested from by some farmer taking the easy road out since pesticide regulations are non existence in other countries > Couldn't someone have tainted the wheat with the rat poison? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>> >>> Do you guys think that some sicko could have done this on purpose?? Very true. >More in likely it was done in the fields where it was harvested from by some >farmer taking the easy road out since pesticide regulations are non [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>>> >>>> Do you guys think that some sicko could have done this on purpose?? on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:10:52 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > More in likely it was done in the fields where it was harvested from > by some farmer taking the easy road out since pesticide regulations > are non existence in other countries That's what I was thinking, too.  SignatureLynne > More in likely it was done in the fields where it was harvested from by some > farmer taking the easy road out since pesticide regulations are non > existence in other countries Or, as my husband said, it could have been used in the areas where they store the wheat before shipping it. Patty >> Couldn't someone have tainted the wheat with the rat poison? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>>> >>>> Do you guys think that some sicko could have done this on purpose?? > Or, as my husband said, it could have been used in the areas where they > store the wheat before shipping it. Another very real possibility. That's not going to stop people from panicking and assuming it was intentional, though. Which is an awful way for people who were impacted by this to have to feel. They must be going through the emotional wringer. What a nightmare. SignatureLynne > Couldn't someone have tainted the wheat with the rat poison? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > Message posted viahttp://www.catkb.com The wheat came from China, where this rat poison is widely used for rodent control. It's really unlikely that this was an intentional effort to kill North American pets. Lis > The wheat came from China, where this rat poison is widely used for > rodent control. It's really unlikely that this was an intentional > effort to kill North American pets. It baffles my mind that any country would use rat poison on a crop that is grown strictly for consumption. SignatureLynne >> The wheat came from China, where this rat poison is widely used for >> rodent control. It's really unlikely that this was an intentional >> effort to kill North American pets. > > It baffles my mind that any country would use rat poison on a crop that is > grown strictly for consumption. Yeah, can you imagine? People eat wheat too! But, China is a third world country which hasn't caught up to the rest of the developed world yet. Patty > Yeah, can you imagine? People eat wheat too! But, China is a third > world country which hasn't caught up to the rest of the developed > world yet. China is such an odd paradox that way. I actually feel very strongly that the US is lax in it's controls on harmful substances, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms. SignatureLynne > > The wheat came from China, where this rat poison is widely used for > > rodent control. It's really unlikely that this was an intentional [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Lynne These are people who fertilize by going out at night and sh.tting all over food crops. I do not make that up...it's a widespread practice, and not surprisingly, there's a lot of food-borne illness in China. If I'd had ANY idea pet food corps were importing from China, for the love of god I would have been grinding chicken at home. >From the Humanure Handbook (using humanure is considered a good way to dispose of human waste, but it's suggested that it should first be composted; they don't do this in China, though, and call it nightsoil because sometimes they spread the day's sh.t at night): "The second way to deal with human excrement is to apply it raw to agricultural land. This is popular in Asia where "night soil," or raw human excrement, is spread on fields. Although this keeps the soil enriched, it also acts as a vector, or route of transmission, for disease organisms. In the words of Dr. J. W. Scharff, former chief health officer in Singapore, "Though the vegetables thrive, the practice of putting human [manure] directly on the soil is dangerous to health. The heavy toll of sickness and death from various enteric diseases in China is well-known." The World Health Organization adds, "Night soil is sometimes used as a fertilizer, in which case it presents great hazards by promoting the transmission of food-borne enteric [intestinal] disease, and hookworm."" > "The second way to deal with human excrement is to apply it raw to > agricultural land. This is popular in Asia where "night soil," or raw [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > presents great hazards by promoting the transmission of food-borne > enteric [intestinal] disease, and hookworm."" Ewww, not that's just gross! > > "The second way to deal with human excrement is to apply it raw to > > agricultural land. This is popular in Asia where "night soil," or raw [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ewww, not that's just gross! Gross but very true. It's why we shouldn't be buying ANYTHING consumable from China (or any Asian country that has a history of such practice). I know the old jokes about things might contain dog meat, but this is a real issue. They obviously don't care enough about their own people to put a stop to it. Why would they care if the rest of the world - pets OR people - get diseases and worms? I'm horrified that Menu Foods would even consider buying additives for pet food from friggin China. Whoever made that decision needs to fry in hell. I should clarify that humanure is a movement worldwide, because it gets rid of waste and provides an endless source of good fertilizer. But it has to be processed properly because of the pathogens in any carnivore's feces. You can go to any sewage plant and get treated sludge to use as fertilizer. It's very safe, no smell and a lot of people (quietly) use it. I personally don't, because I have sources of organic fertilizer I prefer. And to be honest, I have a hard time getting past the idea of handling everyone's sh.t, even though it's been processed. The problem is that in some Asian countries, China in particular, they use it straight. And they pay a huge price with public health issues. You'd also be surprised to know that many organic growers use their own urine as fertilizer. I've used it myself in my compost piles. It's a fantastic source of nitrogen, and unless you've got a bladder infection, it's sterile and very safe. Note: I don't advise using it straight on plants. Too hot. Dilute with water, and many add a few drops of food coloring so the neighbors won't freak when they see them watering with what looks like a milk jug of pee. My cats also contribute to the compost pile with their urine now and then. Nothing like it to heat up the pile. The great thing about urine: there's never a shortage. > > You'd also be surprised to know that many organic growers use their > own urine as fertilizer. Nooo!!! :( Now why'd you tell me that? I'll never look at my food the same way, lol. > > > You'd also be surprised to know that many organic growers use their > > own urine as fertilizer. > > Nooo!!! :( Now why'd you tell me that? I'll never look at my food > the same way, lol. LOL, only if your food comes from your neighbors. I'm pretty sure that the rules for growers who actually sell their products don't allow urine. (But I don't know for fact.) >I should clarify that humanure is a movement worldwide ^^^^^^^^ I think we all understood that, but it is a bit TMI ;^) Signatureannoyed@net.spammers Craig, Kathi & "Cat Five" the tabby girl All nations have idiots and the Chinese are no exception. A big container arrived with products from China in it one day. The boxes looked and smelled strange. A lab result revealed that a virulent and toxic fungicide (also illegal for use in the U.S.) had been sprayed on the shipment. The shipment and it's contents had to be destroyed. The Chinese investigators found that a shipping worker in Shanhai did the deed with the best of intentions. I do not know if he ended up in the countryside in a "re- education camp" or whether they just shrugged it off (probably the latter). I suggest that something similar may have happened here, except on a continuing basis implying incompetent management as well as incompetent workers in the country of origin. > > Couldn't someone have tainted the wheat with the rat poison? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Lis Yeah, especially since they consume pets themselves. |
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